History UsefulNotes / TheSoundOfMartialMusic

2nd Aug '16 5:06:13 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia'' also follows the embodiments of [[UsefulNotes/HolyRomanEmpire Austria and Hungary, as well as Prussia]] from the Renaissance through the UsefulNotes/WarOfTheAustrianSuccession and beyond. Of course, knowing history, we all know how it [[WorldWarI all]] [[{{Tearjerker}} ends]] [[BittersweetEnding down the line.]]

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* ''Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia'' also follows the embodiments of [[UsefulNotes/HolyRomanEmpire Austria and Hungary, as well as Prussia]] from the Renaissance through the UsefulNotes/WarOfTheAustrianSuccession and beyond. Of course, knowing history, we all know how it [[WorldWarI all]] [[{{Tearjerker}} ends]] ends [[BittersweetEnding down the line.]]
2nd Aug '16 5:05:49 AM Morgenthaler
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* The Habsburg Empire exists in ''EuropaUniversalis'' and is a fan favourite. There was a fan write-in campaign to keep Austria's traditional white colour for ''Victoria II''.
* On that note, the first ''VictoriaAnEmpireUnderTheSun'' features them as one of the major obstacles for Prussia/an Italian state to unify Germany and Italy, respectively.

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* The Habsburg Empire exists in ''EuropaUniversalis'' ''VideoGame/EuropaUniversalis'' and is a fan favourite. There was a fan write-in campaign to keep Austria's traditional white colour for ''Victoria II''.
* On that note, the The first ''VictoriaAnEmpireUnderTheSun'' ''VideoGame/VictoriaAnEmpireUnderTheSun'' features them as one of the major obstacles for Prussia/an Italian state to unify Germany and Italy, respectively.
31st Jul '16 8:25:14 AM JamesAustin
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* ''Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia'' also follows the embodiments of [[AxisPowersHetalia/NeitherHolyNorRomanNorAnEmpire Austria and Hungary, as well as Prussia]] from the Renaissance through the UsefulNotes/WarOfTheAustrianSuccession and beyond. Of course, knowing history, we all know how it [[WorldWarI all]] [[{{Tearjerker}} ends]] [[BittersweetEnding down the line.]]

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* ''Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia'' also follows the embodiments of [[AxisPowersHetalia/NeitherHolyNorRomanNorAnEmpire [[UsefulNotes/HolyRomanEmpire Austria and Hungary, as well as Prussia]] from the Renaissance through the UsefulNotes/WarOfTheAustrianSuccession and beyond. Of course, knowing history, we all know how it [[WorldWarI all]] [[{{Tearjerker}} ends]] [[BittersweetEnding down the line.]]
31st Jul '16 8:23:22 AM JamesAustin
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The myriad possible fates of the Austro-Hungarian Empire open up a can of "what ifs" used in AlternateHistory fiction. Had Franz Ferdinand survived his assassination, Karl ascended the throne much earlier[[note]]Alternately, had [[RegentForLife Miklos Horthy]] allowed [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_I_of_Austria Karl to reclaim the throne in Hungary]].[[/note]] or if his son Otto succeeded in restoring the monarchy in Weimar-era Austria (regardless of how politically and socially feasible that notion was in light of [[UsefulNotes/NaziGermany its neighbor]]), the history of Central Europe would most likely have played out rather differently compared to how it did in real life.
** Here's a very interesting one that nobody thinks about: what if the Empire had fragmented much earlier than it did (most likely during the European Revolutions of 1848 aka the Spring of Nations, which would have happened had Russia not stepped in). How would this have affected the development of Germany and the rest of Europe?
** Another one often forgotten: what would have happened if Italy entered WorldWarI at the start and on their side? At the very least the Italian army would have not triggered the collapse of the Empire at Vittorio Veneto five years later...
** Another oft-ignored one: what would have happened had Franz Joseph's brother, Maximilian been more successful in establishing an Imperial Mexico under a Habsburg branch? This would have had considerable repurcussions in how the history of North America would have unfolded, particularly in terms of Mexico-US relations...
** Another forgotten possibility: what would have happened had [[RegentForLife Miklos Horthy's Hungary]] been more successful in either keeping its sovereignty from being compromised by the Nazis or fending off the Soviets in WorldWarII? This would have potentially opened up a relatively neutral if authoritarian space in Central Europe not unlike Spain under Francisco Franco, which would also open up an opportunity for Otto to claim the throne once Horthy passed on, much like the case of King Juan Carlos...

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The myriad possible fates of the Austro-Hungarian Empire open up a can of "what ifs" used in AlternateHistory fiction. Had Franz Ferdinand survived his assassination, Karl ascended the throne much earlier[[note]]Alternately, had [[RegentForLife Miklos Horthy]] allowed [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_I_of_Austria Karl to reclaim the throne in Hungary]].[[/note]] or if his son Otto succeeded in restoring the monarchy in Weimar-era Austria (regardless of how politically and socially feasible that notion was in light of [[UsefulNotes/NaziGermany its neighbor]]), the history of Central Europe would most likely have played out rather differently compared to how it did in real life.\n** Here's a very interesting one that nobody thinks about: what if the Empire had fragmented much earlier than it did (most likely during the European Revolutions of 1848 aka the Spring of Nations, which would have happened had Russia not stepped in). How would this have affected the development of Germany and the rest of Europe?\n** Another one often forgotten: what would have happened if Italy entered WorldWarI at the start and on their side? At the very least the Italian army would have not triggered the collapse of the Empire at Vittorio Veneto five years later...\n** Another oft-ignored one: what would have happened had Franz Joseph's brother, Maximilian been more successful in establishing an Imperial Mexico under a Habsburg branch? This would have had considerable repurcussions in how the history of North America would have unfolded, particularly in terms of Mexico-US relations...\n** Another forgotten possibility: what would have happened had [[RegentForLife Miklos Horthy's Hungary]] been more successful in either keeping its sovereignty from being compromised by the Nazis or fending off the Soviets in WorldWarII? This would have potentially opened up a relatively neutral if authoritarian space in Central Europe not unlike Spain under Francisco Franco, which would also open up an opportunity for Otto to claim the throne once Horthy passed on, much like the case of King Juan Carlos...



* WrongGenreSavvy: Some interpretations of the Habsburgs and their domains tend to paint them as being akin to characters straight out of [[GameOfThrones Westeros]] than the modern world.

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* WrongGenreSavvy: Some interpretations of the Habsburgs and their domains tend to paint them as being akin to characters straight out of [[GameOfThrones [[Series/GameOfThrones Westeros]] than the modern world.
31st Jul '16 8:20:30 AM JamesAustin
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-> "That extraordinary empire known as the Austrian-Hungarian Dual Monarchy is less an Empire or a Kingdom or a State than the ''personal property'' of the Habsburgs, whose hereditary talent for the acquisition of land is recorded on the map of Europe today!"

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-> "That ->''"That extraordinary empire known as the Austrian-Hungarian Dual Monarchy is less an Empire or a Kingdom or a State than the ''personal property'' of the Habsburgs, whose hereditary talent for the acquisition of land is recorded on the map of Europe today!"today!"''
22nd Oct '15 4:30:32 PM nombretomado
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* CoolHorse: The famous Lipizzaner stallions of the Spanish Riding School, which even merited a {{Disney}} movie, ''[[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057312/ Miracle of the White Stallions]]''.

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* CoolHorse: The famous Lipizzaner stallions of the Spanish Riding School, which even merited a {{Disney}} Creator/{{Disney}} movie, ''[[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057312/ Miracle of the White Stallions]]''.
17th Oct '15 7:08:30 PM nombretomado
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Rather amazingly the last Austrian Crown Prince, Otto von Habsburg (or Otto Habsburg-Lothringen in Austria) lived until the ripe old age of 98, [[http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/04/otto-von-habsburg-obituary dying on the 4th of July, 2011]] . Had he actually succeeded his father on the throne he would have [[LongRunner reigned for 88 years, becoming one of the longest reigning monarchs in European history.]] A politician of UsefulNotes/TheEuropeanUnion, he allegedly once punched [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles Ian Paisley]] after the latter insulted ThePope as ''the Antichrist'' in the European Parliament.

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Rather amazingly the last Austrian Crown Prince, Otto von Habsburg (or Otto Habsburg-Lothringen in Austria) lived until the ripe old age of 98, [[http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/04/otto-von-habsburg-obituary dying on the 4th of July, 2011]] . Had he actually succeeded his father on the throne he would have [[LongRunner reigned for 88 years, becoming one of the longest reigning monarchs in European history.]] A politician of UsefulNotes/TheEuropeanUnion, he allegedly once punched [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles Ian Paisley]] after the latter insulted ThePope UsefulNotes/ThePope as ''the Antichrist'' in the European Parliament.
8th Oct '15 5:51:30 PM MarkLungo
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The Habsburg imperial forces were always a motley and colorful patchwork of levies from their various possessions as well as mercenaries. They probably reached their greatest height of prestige during the UsefulNotes/ItalianWars, in which they took on France- previously the most feared army in Europe- and the wealth of Italy and utterly, brutally crushed both under heel. This ushered in almost a century of continuous Habsburg dominance that only began to slip during the EightyYearsWar and ThirtyYearsWar decades later. The latter saw brilliant but ruthless general Wallenstein fight on against the enemies of the Empire and win a number of battles -- only to lose his position due to anti-Imperial Western intervention hammering his army coupled with an overweening personal ambition.

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The Habsburg imperial forces were always a motley and colorful patchwork of levies from their various possessions as well as mercenaries. They probably reached their greatest height of prestige during the UsefulNotes/ItalianWars, in which they took on France- previously the most feared army in Europe- and the wealth of Italy and utterly, brutally crushed both under heel. This ushered in almost a century of continuous Habsburg dominance that only began to slip during the EightyYearsWar UsefulNotes/TheEightyYearsWar and ThirtyYearsWar UsefulNotes/ThirtyYearsWar decades later. The latter saw brilliant but ruthless general Wallenstein fight on against the enemies of the Empire and win a number of battles -- only to lose his position due to anti-Imperial Western intervention hammering his army coupled with an overweening personal ambition.
28th Sep '15 11:43:49 PM msq
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* FromNobodyToNightmare: How the dynasty is sometimes portrayed. Given how it rose from a relatively obscure noble house in what is now Switzerland to becoming sovereigns of the Danubian realms until the end of World War I.


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* KickedUpstairs[=/=]ReassignmentBackfire: The Habsburgs initially gained the Imperial throne of the HolyRomanEmpire amidst a [[DeadlyDecadentCourt conniving nobility]] who thought they could manipulate the new Emperor into forwarding their own agenda. By the time the HRE was dissolved in the Napoleonic Wars however, the Empire had long become synonymous with Austria and the Habsburgs in particular; with one exception, the position was held by a Habsburg in continuous succession in the later centuries of the HRE.


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* WrongGenreSavvy: Some interpretations of the Habsburgs and their domains tend to paint them as being akin to characters straight out of [[GameOfThrones Westeros]] than the modern world.
20th Sep '15 6:48:54 PM nombretomado
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* WhatTheHellHero: The usual treatment of the Austrian Habsburgs during the NapoleonicWars is basically that of the Coalition's TokenEvilTeammate when compared the British and Prussians (or the Russians, if you are reading Creator/LeoTolstoy).

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* WhatTheHellHero: The usual treatment of the Austrian Habsburgs during the NapoleonicWars UsefulNotes/TheNapoleonicWars is basically that of the Coalition's TokenEvilTeammate when compared the British and Prussians (or the Russians, if you are reading Creator/LeoTolstoy).
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