History UsefulNotes / ThePresidentsOfGermany

26th Aug '16 5:04:43 AM Jhonny
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* Christian Wulff -- Christian Democrat. Former minister president of Lower Saxony. He was accused of getting a loan from a businessman for better conditions, which tripped an avalanche of other accusations. When it got so bad that he might have lost his immunity, he abdicated after less than two years in office.

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* Christian Wulff -- Christian Democrat. Former minister president of Lower Saxony. He was accused of getting a loan from a businessman for better conditions, which tripped an avalanche of other accusations. When it got so bad that he might have lost his immunity, he abdicated after less than two years in office.office, however, it should be noted that he was acquitted of all charges in a court of law. The only notable thing in his short term apart from the scandals was a speech he gave with the line "Islam is a part of Germany"
26th Aug '16 3:20:27 AM Morgenthaler
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* Roman Herzog -- Christian Democrat. Former head of the German Supreme Court. Became the candidate after Helmut Kohl's candidate Steffen Heitmann (who'd have been the first president from EastGermany in TheBerlinRepublic) proved to be too conservative. Took three rounds to be elected, but he proved to be quite popular. Most famous for his "Ruck-Rede" (roughly: tug speech), criticizing the Germans for being too indolent.

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* Roman Herzog -- Christian Democrat. Former head of the German Supreme Court. Became the candidate after Helmut Kohl's candidate Steffen Heitmann (who'd have been the first president from EastGermany in TheBerlinRepublic) UsefulNotes/TheBerlinRepublic) proved to be too conservative. Took three rounds to be elected, but he proved to be quite popular. Most famous for his "Ruck-Rede" (roughly: tug speech), criticizing the Germans for being too indolent.
9th Aug '16 5:09:59 AM Morgenthaler
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After the end of ImperialGermany, WeimarGermany decided to install a president instead of the Kaiser. (In fact, the term ''[[CaptainErsatz Ersatzkaiser]]'' was often used.) While [[OurPresidentsAreDifferent not carrying as much power as the American presidents]] (the Weimar presidents didn't do the actual government work, that's what TheChancellorsOfGermany had to do), as the supreme commander of the armed forces and the man who could appoint and fire governments at will, they were still pretty powerful. After the [[ThoseWackyNazis bad experiences with strong presidents]], the constitution of WestGermany gave most power to the chancellor and made the president a purely ceremonial head of state. Still, some presidents could take a bit of influence thanks to personal charisma.

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After the end of ImperialGermany, WeimarGermany UsefulNotes/ImperialGermany, UsefulNotes/WeimarGermany decided to install a president instead of the Kaiser. (In fact, the term ''[[CaptainErsatz Ersatzkaiser]]'' was often used.) While [[OurPresidentsAreDifferent not carrying as much power as the American presidents]] (the Weimar presidents didn't do the actual government work, that's what TheChancellorsOfGermany UsefulNotes/TheChancellorsOfGermany had to do), as the supreme commander of the armed forces and the man who could appoint and fire governments at will, they were still pretty powerful. After the [[ThoseWackyNazis bad experiences with strong presidents]], the constitution of WestGermany UsefulNotes/WestGermany gave most power to the chancellor and made the president a purely ceremonial head of state. Still, some presidents could take a bit of influence thanks to personal charisma.



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3rd Sep '15 8:55:34 PM HowlingSnail
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After the end of ImperialGermany, WeimarGermany decided to install a president instead of the kaiser. (In fact, the term ''[[CaptainErsatz Ersatzkaiser]]'' was often used.) While [[OurPresidentsAreDifferent not carrying as much power as the American presidents]] (the Weimar presidents didn't do the actual government work, that's what TheChancellorsOfGermany had to do), as the supreme commander of the armed forces and the man who could appoint and fire governments at will, they were still pretty powerful. After the [[ThoseWackyNazis bad experiences with strong presidents]], the constitution of WestGermany gave most power to the chancellor and made the president a purely ceremonial head of state. Still, some presidents could take a bit of influence thanks to personal charisma.

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After the end of ImperialGermany, WeimarGermany decided to install a president instead of the kaiser.Kaiser. (In fact, the term ''[[CaptainErsatz Ersatzkaiser]]'' was often used.) While [[OurPresidentsAreDifferent not carrying as much power as the American presidents]] (the Weimar presidents didn't do the actual government work, that's what TheChancellorsOfGermany had to do), as the supreme commander of the armed forces and the man who could appoint and fire governments at will, they were still pretty powerful. After the [[ThoseWackyNazis bad experiences with strong presidents]], the constitution of WestGermany gave most power to the chancellor and made the president a purely ceremonial head of state. Still, some presidents could take a bit of influence thanks to personal charisma.
27th Aug '15 5:02:21 AM Morgenthaler
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* UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler -- National Socialist. Hitler absorbed the state office of President during his tenure as leader of the Third Reich, but he didn't actually use the title. Officially out of respect for Hindenburg, unofficially because it was a democratic institution and too reminiscent of the "heriditary" arch-enemy France. Hitler merged the Presidency with the Chancellery, creating the combined office of ''Führer und Reichskanzler'', representing Hitler's dual roles as Chief of State and Chief of Government. Technically Hitler had a third role as ''Führer'' of the Nazi Party, but the relationship between the Party, the State and the Government was very chaotic in the Third Reich (and that's leaving out the military offices Hitler also acquired that confusingly enough him made his own subordinate several times over). In practice Hitler was simply ''the'' Leader, no qualification required. Fun fact: Being born Austrian, he got the German citizenship relatively late, otherwise he wouldn't have been electable at all.
* Karl Dönitz -- National Socialist. Supreme commander of Germany's submarines before. Hitler decreed before his death that his office would be broken up into a presidential office and a chancellor office again, and Dönitz was handed the Presidential one. Hadn't really much to do after Hitler's suicide and signed Germany's capitulation in May 1945. Was arrested by the Allies, brought to court in Nuremberg and served 10 years in Spandau, together with guys like Albert Speer and Rudolf Hess (Göring having committed suicide in Nuremberg.)

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* UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler -- National Socialist. Hitler absorbed the state office of President during his tenure as leader of the Third Reich, but he didn't actually use the title. Officially out of respect for Hindenburg, unofficially because it was a democratic institution and too reminiscent of the "heriditary" arch-enemy France. Hitler merged the Presidency with the Chancellery, creating the combined office of ''Führer und Reichskanzler'', representing Hitler's dual roles as Chief of State and Chief of Government. Technically Hitler had a third role as ''Führer'' of the Nazi Party, but the relationship between the Party, the State and the Government was very chaotic in the Third Reich (and that's leaving out the military offices Hitler also acquired that confusingly enough him made him his own subordinate several times over). In practice Hitler was simply ''the'' Leader, no qualification required. Fun fact: Being born Austrian, he got the German citizenship relatively late, otherwise he wouldn't have been electable at all.
* Karl Dönitz -- National Socialist. Supreme commander of Germany's submarines before. Hitler decreed before his death that his unique office would be broken up split into a presidential office the Presidency and a chancellor office Chancellery again, and Dönitz was handed the Presidential one.former. Hadn't really much to do after Hitler's suicide and signed Germany's capitulation in May 1945. Was arrested by the Allies, brought to court in Nuremberg and served 10 years in Spandau, together with guys like Albert Speer and Rudolf Hess (Göring having committed suicide in Nuremberg.)
27th Aug '15 4:59:57 AM Morgenthaler
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* UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler -- National Socialist. Hitler absorbed the state office of President during his tenure as leader of the Third Reich, but he didn't actually use the title. Officially out of respect for Hindenburg, unofficially because it was a democratic institution and too reminiscent of the "heriditary" arch-enemy France. Hitler merged the Presidency with the Chancellery, creating the combined office of ''Führer und Reichskanzler'', representing Hitler's dual roles as Chief of State and Chief of Government. Technically Hitler had a third role as ''Führer'' of the Nazi Party, but the relationship between the Party, the State and the Government was very confusing in the Third Reich (and that's leaving out the military offices Hitler also acquired that confusingly enough him made his own subordinate several times over). In practice Hitler was simply ''the'' Leader, no qualification required. Fun fact: Being born Austrian, he got the German citizenship relatively late, otherwise he wouldn't have been electable at all.

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* UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler -- National Socialist. Hitler absorbed the state office of President during his tenure as leader of the Third Reich, but he didn't actually use the title. Officially out of respect for Hindenburg, unofficially because it was a democratic institution and too reminiscent of the "heriditary" arch-enemy France. Hitler merged the Presidency with the Chancellery, creating the combined office of ''Führer und Reichskanzler'', representing Hitler's dual roles as Chief of State and Chief of Government. Technically Hitler had a third role as ''Führer'' of the Nazi Party, but the relationship between the Party, the State and the Government was very confusing chaotic in the Third Reich (and that's leaving out the military offices Hitler also acquired that confusingly enough him made his own subordinate several times over). In practice Hitler was simply ''the'' Leader, no qualification required. Fun fact: Being born Austrian, he got the German citizenship relatively late, otherwise he wouldn't have been electable at all.
27th Aug '15 4:59:28 AM Morgenthaler
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* UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler -- National Socialist. Hitler absorbed the state office of President during his tenure as leader of the Third Reich, but he didn't actually use the title. Officially out of respect for Hindenburg, unofficially because it was a democratic institution and too reminiscent of the "heriditary" arch-enemy France. Hitler merged the Presidency with the Chancellery, creating the combined office of ''Führer und Reichskanzler'', representing Hitler's dual roles as Chief of State and Chief of Government. Technically Hitler had a third role as ''Führer'' of the Nazi Party, but the relationship between the Party, the State and the Government was very confusing in the Third Reich (and that's leaving out the military offices Hitler also acquired). In practice Hitler was simply ''the'' Leader, no qualification required. Fun fact: Being born Austrian, he got the German citizenship relatively late, otherwise he wouldn't have been electable at all.

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* UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler -- National Socialist. Hitler absorbed the state office of President during his tenure as leader of the Third Reich, but he didn't actually use the title. Officially out of respect for Hindenburg, unofficially because it was a democratic institution and too reminiscent of the "heriditary" arch-enemy France. Hitler merged the Presidency with the Chancellery, creating the combined office of ''Führer und Reichskanzler'', representing Hitler's dual roles as Chief of State and Chief of Government. Technically Hitler had a third role as ''Führer'' of the Nazi Party, but the relationship between the Party, the State and the Government was very confusing in the Third Reich (and that's leaving out the military offices Hitler also acquired).acquired that confusingly enough him made his own subordinate several times over). In practice Hitler was simply ''the'' Leader, no qualification required. Fun fact: Being born Austrian, he got the German citizenship relatively late, otherwise he wouldn't have been electable at all.
27th Aug '15 4:57:57 AM Morgenthaler
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* UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler -- National Socialist. Hitler absorbed the state office of President during his tenure as leader of the Third Reich, but he didn't actually use the title. Officially out of respect for Hindenburg, unofficially because it was a democratic institution and too reminiscent of the "heriditary" arch-enemy France. Hitler created a new office and combined it with his chancellor office, creating the combined office of ''Führer und Reichskanzler'', representing Hitler's dual roles as Chief of State and Chief of Government. Technically Hitler had a third role as ''Führer'' of the Nazi Party, but the relationship between the Party, the State and the Government was very confusing in the Third Reich (and that's leaving out the military offices Hitler also acquired). In practice Hitler was simply ''the'' Leader, no qualification required. Fun fact: Being born Austrian, he got the German citizenship relatively late, otherwise he wouldn't have been electable at all.

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* UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler -- National Socialist. Hitler absorbed the state office of President during his tenure as leader of the Third Reich, but he didn't actually use the title. Officially out of respect for Hindenburg, unofficially because it was a democratic institution and too reminiscent of the "heriditary" arch-enemy France. Hitler created a new office and combined it merged the Presidency with his chancellor office, the Chancellery, creating the combined office of ''Führer und Reichskanzler'', representing Hitler's dual roles as Chief of State and Chief of Government. Technically Hitler had a third role as ''Führer'' of the Nazi Party, but the relationship between the Party, the State and the Government was very confusing in the Third Reich (and that's leaving out the military offices Hitler also acquired). In practice Hitler was simply ''the'' Leader, no qualification required. Fun fact: Being born Austrian, he got the German citizenship relatively late, otherwise he wouldn't have been electable at all.
22nd Jun '15 9:25:06 AM Doogie2K
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After the end of ImperialGermany, WeimarGermany decided to install a president instead of the kaiser. (In fact, the term ''[[CaptainErsatz Ersatzkaiser]]'' was often used.) While [[OurPresidentsAreDifferent not carrying as much power as the American presidents]] (the Weimar presidents didn't do the actual government work, that's what TheChancellorsOfGermany had to do), as the supreme commander of the armed forces and the man who could appoint and fire governments at will, they were still pretty powerful. After the bad experiences with strong presidents, the constitution of WestGermany gave most power to the chancellor and made the president a purely ceremonial head of state. Still, some presidents could take a bit of influence thanks to personal charisma.

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After the end of ImperialGermany, WeimarGermany decided to install a president instead of the kaiser. (In fact, the term ''[[CaptainErsatz Ersatzkaiser]]'' was often used.) While [[OurPresidentsAreDifferent not carrying as much power as the American presidents]] (the Weimar presidents didn't do the actual government work, that's what TheChancellorsOfGermany had to do), as the supreme commander of the armed forces and the man who could appoint and fire governments at will, they were still pretty powerful. After the [[ThoseWackyNazis bad experiences with strong presidents, presidents]], the constitution of WestGermany gave most power to the chancellor and made the president a purely ceremonial head of state. Still, some presidents could take a bit of influence thanks to personal charisma.
8th Feb '15 5:18:50 AM Menshevik
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* Gustav Heinemann -- Social Democrat. Originally a member of the Christian Democrats which he left when Adenauer started to rearm WestGermany. He founded the small GVP, which later joined the Social Democrats. Narrowly elected by Liberal and Social Democrats, the latter still being in a grand coalition with the Christian Democrats. Once when asked whether he'd love Germany, he answered "I don't love the state, I love my wife." Generally, [[TheQuietOne a quiet guy]]. Only served one term, for health and age reasons.

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* Gustav Heinemann -- Social Democrat. Originally Active in the ''Bekennende Kirche'' (the resistant faction of the Protestant Church) under the Nazis, he became a member of the Christian Democrats which he and a minister, but left party and cabinet when Adenauer started to rearm WestGermany. He founded the small GVP, ''Gesamtdeutsche Volkspartei'', which later joined the Social Democrats. Narrowly elected by Liberal and Social Democrats, the latter still being in a grand coalition with the Christian Democrats. Once when asked whether he'd love Germany, he answered "I don't love the state, I love my wife." Generally, [[TheQuietOne a quiet guy]]. Only served one term, for health and age reasons.



* Karl Carstens -- Christian Democrat. His election was an alarm sign for the social-liberal coalition which had been weakened in the ''[[TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland länder]]''. Somewhat controversial for having been a member of the nazi party. Liked hiking and used this hobby to "meet the German people". Only served one term, feeling to old for a second one.

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* Karl Carstens -- Christian Democrat. His election was an alarm sign for the social-liberal coalition which had been weakened in the ''[[TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland länder]]''. Länder]]''. Somewhat controversial for having been a member of the nazi Nazi party. Liked hiking and used this hobby to "meet the German people". Only served one term, feeling to old for a second one.



* Johannes Rau -- Social Democrat. Grandson-in-law of his predecessor Gustav Heinemann, in fact. And like him, a former member of the GVP. (His opponent from the Left Party was his wife's aunt - how ironic.) First German politician to speak in the Knesset, the parliament of Israel.

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* Johannes Rau -- Social Democrat. Grandson-in-law of his predecessor Gustav Heinemann, in fact. And like him, a former member of the GVP. (His opponent from the Left Party was his wife's aunt - how ironic.) First German politician to speak in the Knesset, the parliament of Israel. As a pious Protestant he was nicknamed "Bruder Johnannes" (brother or friar John).
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