History UsefulNotes / Suicide

22nd Feb '18 6:18:18 PM lakingsif
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* [[http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/09/29/Sex_Video_Drives_Rutgers_Freshman_to_Suicide This story]] of a student who committed suicide after being outed as gay due to a [[DeadlyPrank prank.]]
* Including the young man in the news story above, at this writing, 6 gay teens across the United States have taken their own lives in just one week. For every LGBT kid who commits suicide, another 20 try.

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* [[http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/09/29/Sex_Video_Drives_Rutgers_Freshman_to_Suicide This story]] of a student who committed suicide after [[ForcedOutOfTheCloset being outed as gay gay]] due to a [[DeadlyPrank prank.]]
* Including the young man in the news story above, at this writing, 6 gay teens across the United States have taken their own lives in just one week. [[GayngstInducedSuicide For every LGBT kid who commits suicide, another 20 try.try]].
2nd Feb '18 6:14:34 PM nombretomado
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* In the summer of 2011, three NationalHockeyLeague "enforcers," guys whose job on the team had been to get into fights, died; one, Derek Boogard, from an overdose of painkillers, and two, Rick Rypien & Wade Belak from what is generally though to be suicide, though Belak's family has tried to argue otherwise. It was only after their deaths that it came out that the latter two had struggled with depression for a long time, and then that they were hardly the only enforcers so affected, and together these three deaths opened a public discussion about the physical and emotional toll their career takes on enforcers.

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* In the summer of 2011, three NationalHockeyLeague UsefulNotes/NationalHockeyLeague "enforcers," guys whose job on the team had been to get into fights, died; one, Derek Boogard, from an overdose of painkillers, and two, Rick Rypien & Wade Belak from what is generally though to be suicide, though Belak's family has tried to argue otherwise. It was only after their deaths that it came out that the latter two had struggled with depression for a long time, and then that they were hardly the only enforcers so affected, and together these three deaths opened a public discussion about the physical and emotional toll their career takes on enforcers.
31st Jan '18 3:53:03 AM WillBGood
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* Scandinavians in general do have alarmingly high suicide rate. Given to [[GrimUpNorth hostile climate]], long and dark winters and Scandinavians' high average IQ (Emile Durkheim showed [[http://www.suicideireland.com/2010110153/General/suicide-overview/All-Pages.html high intelligence ''increases'' the risk of suicide)]], no personal bankrupt laws and work culture which does not tolerate failure, it is no surprise. Suicide is usually considered as "just another way to die" in Scandinavia.

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* Scandinavians in general do have alarmingly high suicide rate. Given to [[GrimUpNorth hostile climate]], long and dark winters and Scandinavians' high average IQ (Emile Durkheim showed [[http://www.showed high intelligence ''[[http://www.suicideireland.com/2010110153/General/suicide-overview/All-Pages.html high intelligence ''increases'' increases]]'' the risk of suicide)]], suicide), no personal bankrupt bankruptcy laws and a work culture which does not tolerate failure, it is no surprise. Suicide is usually considered as "just another way to die" in Scandinavia.
27th Jan '18 12:31:12 PM nombretomado
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* Painter VincentVanGogh is now known as a major post-impressionist artist, but his life was extremely hard. He was very talented, but only managed to sell two of his 2 000 artworks, living his life more or less in poverty. He also suffered from schizophrenia, possible bipolar disorder and depression during his last years. Eventually, the voices in his head got the best of him, and Van Gogh shot himself on the 27th of July 1890.

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* Painter VincentVanGogh Creator/VincentVanGogh is now known as a major post-impressionist artist, but his life was extremely hard. He was very talented, but only managed to sell two of his 2 000 artworks, living his life more or less in poverty. He also suffered from schizophrenia, possible bipolar disorder and depression during his last years. Eventually, the voices in his head got the best of him, and Van Gogh shot himself on the 27th of July 1890.
29th Oct '17 2:15:29 PM Jeduthun
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* [[https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/10/13/jumpers Kevin Hines and Keith Baldwin]] are two of a handful of people who have survived suicide attempts by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge. Both men reported, as have many other survivors, that they regretted their decision to jump almost immediately and spent the entire fall realizing they had just made a terrible decision.
--> "I instantly realized that everything in my life that Iíd thought was unfixable was totally fixable-- except for having just jumped." --Keith Baldwin
--> "My first thought was What the hell did I just do? I donít want to die." --Kevin Hines
20th Oct '17 1:45:06 PM Premonition45
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* Music/ChrisCornell of Music/{{Soundgarden}} was found unexpectedly dead immediately after performing a concert in Detroit, with a fitness band around his neck. The death was later confirmed to be a suicide by hanging, which shocked many as in the days and weeks leading to his death, he tweeted and posted many optimistic messages on social media.

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* On May 17, 2017, Music/ChrisCornell of Music/{{Soundgarden}} was found unexpectedly dead immediately after performing a concert in Detroit, with a fitness band around his neck. The death was later confirmed to be a suicide by hanging, which shocked many as in the days and weeks leading to his death, he tweeted and posted many optimistic messages on social media. His friend, Chester Bennington of Music/LinkinPark, killed himself the same way on July 20, which would have been Cornell's 53rd birthday.
1st Oct '17 10:15:18 PM ADrago
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* Misconception: '''Men are serious when they attempt suicide, but women are only doing it for attention or as a cry for help.''' Every single suicide due to depression is a cry for help. The truth is that, for a variety of reasons ([[TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs media portrayal]] of attempts by each gender for one, differing ease of access to the violent methods is another), men tend to use more violent methods of suicide such as firearms or carbon monoxide poisoning - methods that are likely to be successful - while women tend to use drugs or knives - methods that are much less likely to be successful. Unfortunately, the belief that men are serious while women are only looking for attention can be found in some older professional handbooks, and has led many to think that a man who attempts suicide is worthy of assistance, while a woman who attempts suicide is just an over-emotional {{attention whore}} who needs to be ignored or belittled so she "doesn't learn from the attention to do it again". (It is true that women attempt suicide more often than men but men succeed more often, but it's not necessarily 100 women attempting suicide once to every 20 men who attempt suicide once: it's quite possibly 20 women attempting suicide five times each for every 20 men who attempt suicide once and succeed.)

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* Misconception: '''Men are serious when they attempt suicide, but women are only doing it for attention or as a cry for help.''' Every single suicide due to depression is a cry for help. The truth is that, for a variety of reasons ([[TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs ([[JustForFun/TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs media portrayal]] of attempts by each gender for one, differing ease of access to the violent methods is another), men tend to use more violent methods of suicide such as firearms or carbon monoxide poisoning - methods that are likely to be successful - while women tend to use drugs or knives - methods that are much less likely to be successful. Unfortunately, the belief that men are serious while women are only looking for attention can be found in some older professional handbooks, and has led many to think that a man who attempts suicide is worthy of assistance, while a woman who attempts suicide is just an over-emotional {{attention whore}} who needs to be ignored or belittled so she "doesn't learn from the attention to do it again". (It is true that women attempt suicide more often than men but men succeed more often, but it's not necessarily 100 women attempting suicide once to every 20 men who attempt suicide once: it's quite possibly 20 women attempting suicide five times each for every 20 men who attempt suicide once and succeed.)
1st Oct '17 9:10:12 AM nombretomado
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* Music/KurtCobain of {{Music/Nirvana}} shot himself at his home. Surrounded by ConspiracyTheories that he was murdered mostly based around some of the misconceptions outlined above. Notably that a note found with his body "doesn't read like a suicide note" even though it is a long rambling apology to his fans for his apathy towards his success and his shame at not appreciating them.

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* Music/KurtCobain of {{Music/Nirvana}} shot himself at his home. Surrounded by ConspiracyTheories UsefulNotes/ConspiracyTheories that he was murdered mostly based around some of the misconceptions outlined above. Notably that a note found with his body "doesn't read like a suicide note" even though it is a long rambling apology to his fans for his apathy towards his success and his shame at not appreciating them.
1st Sep '17 7:21:37 PM HasturHasturHastur
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* Todd Honeycutt of Enfold Darkness hanged himself in former bandmate Elijah Whitehead's garage days after leaving the band in August of 2017. Honeycutt had been severely depressed for some time, and while he was universally beloved by fans and was an important part of ''Adversary Omnipotent'', their long-awaited and very well-received sophomore album, his relationship with his bandmates had grown increasingly frayed, and a Facebook post made less than a week prior to his death indicated that he felt that his bandmates didn't respect him and merely saw him as the bassist that they had settled on.
23rd Aug '17 7:28:04 AM HasturHasturHastur
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** As an addenda to this, pretty much the only time suicidal people are dangerous to anyone ''but'' themselves is if they express interest in [[TakingYouWithMe murder-suicide as revenge/Taking You with Me]][=/=]SuicideByCop or the like and pursue such plans, if they choose a method that is guaranteed to hurt/kill others, have stated that they will harm anyone who attempts to stop them (and you know them well enough to have good reason to believe that [[SincerityMode they are not bluffing]]), or ''if'' they are armed with a weapon such as a gun or long knife/sword ''and'' [[BulletHolesAndRevelations interrupted mid-attempt with]] [[GunStruggle someone violently trying to take the weapon away]].

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** As an addenda to this, pretty much the only time suicidal people are dangerous to anyone ''but'' themselves is if they express interest in [[TakingYouWithMe murder-suicide as revenge/Taking You with Me]][=/=]SuicideByCop Me]][=/=]RoaringRampageOfRevenge[=/=]SuicideByCop or the like and pursue such plans, if they choose a method that is guaranteed to hurt/kill others, others or cause major property damage, have stated that they will harm anyone who attempts to stop them (and you know them well enough to have good reason to believe that [[SincerityMode they are not bluffing]]), or ''if'' they are armed with a weapon such as a gun or long knife/sword ''and'' [[BulletHolesAndRevelations interrupted mid-attempt with]] [[GunStruggle someone violently trying to take the weapon away]].
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