History UsefulNotes / Suicide

21st May '18 12:56:26 PM HasturHasturHastur
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** Similarly, emergency rooms may make things much worse during the intake process. While there ''are'' plenty of understanding doctors and nurses out there, there is sadly a perception in emergency medicine that people being brought in for suicide attempts and psych "frequent fliers" in general are wastes of time and resources who keep them from tending to patients with "real" injuries, and it is not unheard of for emergency departments to subject people being brought in for suicide attempts to painful or humiliating procedures on intake that are ''officially'' "better safe than sorry" measures, but are really intended to punish them for the perceived drain on time and resources. If they are indeed a "frequent flyer", even the psych wards may treat them poorly, especially if they are treatment-resistant or noncompliant or if they have historically not gotten along with the staff.

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** Similarly, emergency rooms may make things much worse during the intake process. While there ''are'' plenty of understanding doctors and nurses out there, there is sadly a perception in emergency medicine that people being brought in for suicide attempts and psych "frequent fliers" in general are wastes of time and resources who keep them from tending to patients with "real" injuries, and it is not unheard of for emergency departments to subject people being brought in for suicide attempts to painful or humiliating procedures on intake that are ''officially'' "better safe than sorry" measures, but are really intended to punish them for the perceived drain on time and resources. If they are indeed a "frequent flyer", even the psych wards may treat them poorly, especially if they are treatment-resistant or noncompliant or if they have historically not gotten along with the staff. The likelihood of this happening increases greatly if the patient has certain diagnoses on their record; borderline personality disorder (which has an ''extremely'' high suicide rate), in particular, carries such a strong stigma in psych settings that many mental health practitioners will actively try and find other diagnoses to avoid saddling a client with that label because they are acutely aware that it often creates barriers to proper care and results in poor treatment by psychiatric staff.
17th May '18 9:12:04 AM HasturHasturHastur
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* Misconception: '''Men are serious when they attempt suicide, but women are only doing it for attention or as a cry for help.''' Every single suicide due to depression is a cry for help. The truth is that, for a variety of reasons ([[JustForFun/TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs media portrayal]] of attempts by each gender for one, differing ease of access to the violent methods is another), men tend to use more violent methods of suicide such as firearms or carbon monoxide poisoning - methods that are likely to be successful - while women tend to use drugs or knives - methods that are much less likely to be successful. Unfortunately, the belief that men are serious while women are only looking for attention can be found in some older professional handbooks, and has led many to think that a man who attempts suicide is worthy of assistance, while a woman who attempts suicide is just an over-emotional {{attention whore}} who needs to be ignored or belittled so she "doesn't learn from the attention to do it again". (It is true that women attempt suicide more often than men but men succeed more often, but it's not necessarily 100 women attempting suicide once to every 20 men who attempt suicide once: it's quite possibly 20 women attempting suicide five times each for every 20 men who attempt suicide once and succeed.)

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* Misconception: '''Men are serious when they attempt suicide, but women are only doing it for attention or as a cry for help.''' Every single suicide due to depression is a cry for help. The truth is that, for a variety of reasons ([[JustForFun/TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs media portrayal]] of attempts by each gender for one, differing ease of access to the violent methods is another), men tend to use more violent methods of suicide such as firearms or carbon monoxide poisoning - methods that are likely to be successful - while women tend to use drugs or knives - methods that are much less likely to be successful. Furthermore, women tend to be diagnosed with certain personality disorders (particularly borderline personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder) that frequently result in suicide attempts that often ''do'' have a manipulative component far more often than men are. Unfortunately, the belief that men are serious while women are only looking for attention can be found in some older professional handbooks, and has led many to think that a man who attempts suicide is worthy of assistance, while a woman who attempts suicide is just an over-emotional {{attention whore}} who needs to be ignored or belittled so she "doesn't learn from the attention to do it again". (It is true that women attempt suicide more often than men but men succeed more often, but it's not necessarily 100 women attempting suicide once to every 20 men who attempt suicide once: it's quite possibly 20 women attempting suicide five times each for every 20 men who attempt suicide once and succeed.)



** If, based on your history with the person and their own history of interactions with others, you truly believe beyond the shadow of a doubt that their suicide threat or attempt is an attempt to manipulate, police involvement is an effective way to call their bluff.



** The ''inverse'' is sometimes the case. People who [[BungledSuicide survive or intentionally botch their suicide]] won't always be happy at first. Some may in fact feel worse, because either [[DeathSeeker they couldn't even manage to]] ''[[DeathSeeker die]]'' [[DeathSeeker properly]], they feel like they've been [[YankTheDogsChain cheated out of relief]], or they feel they "chickened out" and have now burdened their loved ones with financial and emotional stress--the exact thing they wanted to avoid--with no relief to show for it. It is a ''very'' twisted form of SurvivorGuilt that is often confusing for loved ones to deal with.
* Misconception: '''All teens aren't really serious about suicide.''' This applies to children as well - some people believe that teenagers are doing it for the attention, and the children are just joking/can't really want to die. But there are teens who are genuinely suffering. If a teen or child is forced to abandon a suicide attempt, and life continues as normal, this can just make it worse and the child/teen more likely to actually commit suicide.

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** The ''inverse'' is sometimes the case. People who [[BungledSuicide survive or intentionally botch their suicide]] won't always be happy at first. Some may in fact feel worse, because either [[DeathSeeker they couldn't even manage to]] ''[[DeathSeeker die]]'' [[DeathSeeker properly]], they feel like they've been [[YankTheDogsChain cheated out of relief]], or they feel they "chickened out" and have now burdened their loved ones with financial and emotional stress--the exact thing they wanted to avoid--with no relief to show for it.it, or have found themselves in legal trouble that will force others to pick up the pieces for them. It is a ''very'' twisted form of SurvivorGuilt that is often confusing for loved ones to deal with.
* Misconception: '''All teens aren't really serious about suicide.''' This applies to children as well - some people believe that teenagers are doing it for the attention, and the children are just joking/can't really want to die. But there are teens who are genuinely suffering.suffering, and reasons that may seem ridiculous or overblown to adults are still extremely real and legitimate to the suffering child. If a teen or child is forced to abandon a suicide attempt, and life continues as normal, this can just make it worse and the child/teen more likely to actually commit suicide.
28th Apr '18 1:34:11 PM HasturHasturHastur
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** Not all police officers are understanding of suicide attempts and suicidality, especially among women and GLBTQIA people or with people they've had prior contacts with for suicide attempts. Some police officers ''are'' understanding; others may assume it's a false alarm when it is in fact very real. You may have an understanding cop answer the call; you may have the call answered by a cop who has never handled a suicidal person before, or who panics, or who [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom does any number of things that can make the situation worse]].

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** Not all police officers are understanding of suicide attempts and suicidality, especially among women and GLBTQIA people or with people they've had prior contacts with for suicide attempts.attempts or otherwise have negative histories with. Some police officers ''are'' understanding; others may assume it's a false alarm when it is in fact very real. You may have an understanding cop answer the call; you may have the call answered by a cop who has never handled a suicidal person before, or who panics, or who [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom does any number of things that can make the situation worse]].


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** Similarly, emergency rooms may make things much worse during the intake process. While there ''are'' plenty of understanding doctors and nurses out there, there is sadly a perception in emergency medicine that people being brought in for suicide attempts and psych "frequent fliers" in general are wastes of time and resources who keep them from tending to patients with "real" injuries, and it is not unheard of for emergency departments to subject people being brought in for suicide attempts to painful or humiliating procedures on intake that are ''officially'' "better safe than sorry" measures, but are really intended to punish them for the perceived drain on time and resources. If they are indeed a "frequent flyer", even the psych wards may treat them poorly, especially if they are treatment-resistant or noncompliant or if they have historically not gotten along with the staff.
23rd Apr '18 3:40:05 PM DocJamore
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!!Some RealLife stories
* The mental illness most likely to cause suicide (both intentional and accidental) is anorexia nervosa. Up to 45% of anorexics will attempt suicide or will do something that is likely to cause death. Untreated or badly treated schizophrenia is next up, with an over 30% death by suicide rate - due to hallucinations and delusions in part, but equally due to its often co-morbid depression, the realization of a limited life of stigmatization even among the treated, and/or the difficulty "negative symptoms" such as lack of appropriate emotion and difficulty expressing oneself can produce. Uncomplicated major depression actually has a suicide rate of 3 to 15 percent with bipolar being slightly higher.
* Some ''physical'' conditions also carry high rates, due to co-morbid depression, societal treatment, extreme pain, belief that death will happen anyway, or other factors, and sometimes a combination of all of the above. Being transgender or intersex in an unaccepting environment (e.g. one that does not allow transition and/or shuns the transgender/intersex) has an ''equal'' rate of suicide to anorexia nervosa, the mental illness worst for it, as noted below with 41-45% including attempts, somewhat lower including successful attempts. Chronic pain syndromes are notorious for high rates, with one example being trigeminal neuralgia, an often-disabling facial pain syndrome with few successful treatments and for which "successful treatment" is very hit or miss and individualized. It is almost equal to untreated schizophrenia for suicide rates. Thyroid conditions such as Hashimoto's or Graves' disease can create ''identical'' symptoms to depression, bipolar, or other mental illnesses, and/or the physical suffering they induce if undetected and untreated/improperly treated can easily rival any other severe, chronic condition, and their rates may well be a section of those generally attributed to depression or bipolar or unknown cause. Finally, terminal illness is itself often correlated with a high rate, because those who know they are going to die soon anyway often wish to choose the circumstances and speed of death, especially if the illness is known for painful, prolonged suffering.
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Howard_Armstrong Edwin Howard Armstrong]], inventor of FM radio. Left penniless and distraught by his rivals' lawsuits, he jumped from a 13th storey window in 1954, aged 64.
* Two other 20th century writers that committed suicide, besides Hemingway: Creator/SylviaPlath and Creator/AnneSexton. Sylvia Plath killed herself by inhaling the fumes from a gas oven after her husband, fellow poet Ted Hughes, cheated on her and left her for another woman (Assia Wevill, who six years later committed suicide in the same way). Anne Sexton suffocated in carbon monoxide in her garage while wearing her mother's coat--after ''years'' of mental illness, blaming herself for her mother's cancer, and feeling responsible for her divorce in 1971.
*** The (somewhat nebulous) connection between creative writers--especially female poets--and higher rates of mental illness/suicide is known as the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvia_Plath_effect Sylvia Plath effect]].
** Another 20th century author to commit suicide: Virginia Woolf--inevitably pushed over the edge by years of depression, mental illness (particularly, hearing voices), and feeling guilty about being a burden to her husband. The ''Norton Anthology of 20th-Century British Literature'' cites the fear of being arrested by the Gestapo as a reason for suicide. She filled her coat with rocks and walked into the Ouse River near her house. (This had to have been particularly painful, as she was a good swimmer.)
** John Berryman, another poet, who killed himself by jumping off the Washington Avenue Bridge onto the west bank of the Mississippi River. As Music/NickCave put it:
--->Berryman was best;\\
He wrote like wet paper mache\\
Uh-huh, but he went the Heming Way.
** Austrian writer Stefan Zweig explained in his suicide note that he couldn't bear to watch Europe tear itself apart again. Reading his autobiography gives you a good idea of just how nostalgic he was for a golden version of Europe that had been destroyed since the first world war.
** Truman Capote may have committed suicide, or he may have accidentally overdosed. He wouldn't let Joanne Carson call an ambulance, though, so even if he didn't actively kill himself, he didn't really want to live.
** Creator/HunterSThompson, in pain from illness and generally tired of life, wrote "Football Season Is Over" and called it a day with a pistol.
** Creator/RobertEHoward made plans to end his life when his mother's health started failing. After his mother entered her final coma and a nurse told him that she would never again regain consciousness, Howard went to his car and shot himself in the head, dying the day before his mother did.
* More intelligent animals, such as dogs, cats, monkeys, and apes, have been known to be driven to suicide by the loss of a master, mate, or companion, either passively by starvation and dehydration, or actively by jumping off a precipice or lying in front of oncoming traffic. Of course, the same behavior sometimes happens in some ''humans'' who lose a spouse or lover or close friend or even someone they just deeply care about - there is a reason that recent or very painful loss or grief is mentioned as a reason for (especially impulsive) suicide above. Whether it is a pathological mental illness or a legitimate (if not ''good'') reaction to some of the most horrific pain anyone can experience is a matter of [[FlameWar intense debate]].
** Not only that, but older dogs and cats know that their life is at an end, and starve themselves. This usually convinces their owners to have them put down. Proves that animals know about death.
** It's possible that the one fatality of the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Narrows_Bridge_(1940) Tacoma Narrows Bridge]], Tubby the spaniel, committed suicide - he rejected a rescue team, and attacked them when they tried to save him by force.
** Cetaceans are voluntary breathers. They can decide to end their lives at any time by just not taking that next breath. Ric O'Barry holds that this was the case with Kathy, the dolphin who usually played ''{{Series/Flipper}}''.
* It could be argued that [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Slotin Louis Slotin]], a Manhattan Project nuclear physicist, committed accidental suicide of the "not caring about his own life" variety: he expressed disdain with his life and his work on the project, and then began to take risks including climbing under an operating nuclear reactor and becoming increasingly careless with a repeated experiment, down to not wearing his dosimeter and, when he did the experiment for the last and what would be fatal time, using a screwdriver on the core and removing protective shims. The result was the prompt critical accident that killed him.
* The Russian ''bylina'' tales tell of Chuds (Baltic Finno-Ugric peoples), who rather committed mass suicides than surrendered to invading Russians. They dug underground dungeons, took their valuables and posessions there, and then collapsed the structures when the Russians came to loot, [[TakingYouWithMe killing themselves and the attackers both.]] Such caves have been found.
* In UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, the Japanese government deliberately frightened the civilian populations, most notably in Okinawa, about the supposed atrocities that the Allies would inflict should they take their islands to the point where many committed suicide. Only one-third of the civilian population of Saipan survived the American invasion, and most of the deaths were suicide.
** This was not limited to Imperial Japan. During the fall of [[UsefulNotes/NaziGermany Nazi Germany]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_suicides_in_1945_Nazi_Germany thousands of people committed suicide]] (including, as noted below, [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler its leader]]) to avoid capture or the humiliation of defeat. And not only did the German leadership kill themselves, but also ''tens of thousands of ordinary German citizen''s, especially in the Eastern terrirories. Sadly, somewhat [[JustifiedTrope justified]], as the Germans had behaved in atrocious manner in the conquered East, and they were now subjected to the vengeance of the Red Army - including mass raping of all German women. Killing oneself was seen as [[BetterToDieThanbeKilled the lesser evil]] to being captured by the Russians and then raped, robbed and murdered as revenge on what the Germans had themselves done. Often families, including under-age children, killed themselves together. The mass suicides also acted as the [[DefianttoTheEnd final sign of spite, impudence and defiance]]: such mass suicides were utterly uncommon in the Christian world, and especially shocked the Western allies, whilst the Germans themselves saw it as "snatching the Russians their most prized loot - women to rape" and making their victory empty.
* Scandinavians in general do have alarmingly high suicide rate. Given to [[GrimUpNorth hostile climate]], long and dark winters and Scandinavians' high average IQ (Emile Durkheim showed high intelligence ''[[http://www.suicideireland.com/2010110153/General/suicide-overview/All-Pages.html increases]]'' the risk of suicide), no personal bankruptcy laws and a work culture which does not tolerate failure, it is no surprise. Suicide is usually considered as "just another way to die" in Scandinavia.
* Likewise, Finno-Ugric nations tend to be especially prone to suicide. Hungary and Finland have traditionally had far higher suicide rates than world average. The suicide reduction programs in Finland have worked and lowered this sad rate during the recent years.
* Japanese culture in general sees depression as shameful and suicide as a honorable "way out." That combination ''alone'' leads to many suicides and much suicidal behavior, and since there's many other combinations (from the idea of behavior that would and should be seen as suicidal to be simply being a hard worker or fighting against the odds or being honorable in the case of overwork or working past injuries or similar, or, at worst with things like alcoholism and drugs, just to be ignored and brushed under the rug so to speak, to suicide being seen as a legitimate form of apology when one has wronged someone else in some corners), the suicide rate in Japan is a ''huge'' societal problem, and the country has one of the world's largest suicide rates and some of the very least effective responses to suicide attempts and suicidal behavior ''possible.''
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing Alan Turing]] was a man key in decoding the Enigma machines in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, and who even invented the first electronic computer to do so. Accidentally outed as gay when he reported a liaison who tried to burgle his house, Turing was found guilty of "gross indecency", and reluctantly chose chemical castration by hormone treatment over prison. Despite retaining his freedom, Turing was also fired and barred from the university where he worked, and his hormone "treatment" probably lead to his depression and weight gain. Infamously, Turing soon killed himself by eating an apple containing cyanide compounds he used in his work, possibly to make it plausible to his mother that his death was accidental. However, this has recently been questioned by modern historians. The death may indeed have been accidental; Turing had a home chemistry lab where he could conceivably have gotten into cyanide by accident, and the apple was never tested.
* Painter Creator/VincentVanGogh is now known as a major post-impressionist artist, but his life was extremely hard. He was very talented, but only managed to sell two of his 2 000 artworks, living his life more or less in poverty. He also suffered from schizophrenia, possible bipolar disorder and depression during his last years. Eventually, the voices in his head got the best of him, and Van Gogh shot himself on the 27th of July 1890.
* Professor Henry Bedson, the head of the microbiology department at University of Birmingham Medical School, committed suicide in 1978 after samples of live smallpox he was studying traveled through the vents and infected a woman working in the same building, killing her.
* In AncientRome, committing suicide was a common way out for upper-class individuals who expected to receive a death sentence in the near future. In fact, people sentenced to death were often allowed to take their own life instead of being executed. The ''Annals'' of Tacitus mention dozens of such cases.
** Committing suicide prior to trial was preferable to a death sentence because it allowed your heirs to inherit your estate. If you were executed, your wealth was forfeited to the state.
* Speaking of AncientRome, quite a few Roman politicians were driven to suicide in the dying days of the Republic including:
** Cato the Younger, as with the murder of Pompey and the essential collapse of any resistance to Julius Caesar (which from Cato's perspective was a tragedy since Pompey's coalition was the legitimate government of the Roman Republic), he lacked any desire to live in a world where the Republic had essentially ceased to exist. Caesar was quite displeased with this--Pompey had been murdered and now another of the most powerful men of the Republic died, but neither of these worthy opponents fell at his hands in battle. Cato was highly honored in Rome for his incorruptibility and intransigence and, indeed, Octavian likened himself to Cato.
** A generation later, more famously, Marc Antony committed suicide in the aftermath of his crushing defeat at the Battle of Actium, his lover Cleopatra following him to the grave not long afterwards.
* During the fall of Constantinople, several women including nuns commited suicide. The reason why [[RapePillageAndBurn is obvious]].
* In a pretty horrific example, Mitchell Henderson became an infamous [[MemeticMutation meme]] ("an hero") by committing suicide... after which {{troll}}s made up the idea that he did so because his iPod was stolen.
* The infamous case of [[http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1356&dat=20020526&id=VOJPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=0ggEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6973,4696794 Shawn Woolley]], the game addict who was (supposedly) driven to suicide by ''VideoGame/EverQuest''. In reality his mother drove him to it. Everybody just blamed ''[=EverQuest=]'' because [[NewMediaAreEvil it was more convenient]].
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Chubbuck Christine "Chris" Chubbuck]] committed suicide by shooting herself ''on the air'' in TheSeventies. Those in the studio initially thought it was [[DudeNotFunny a tasteless prank]]... until they realized it wasn't. Poor Christine died some hours later.
** [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud_dwyer Robert "Bud" Dwyer]] did something similar. And then {{Filter}} [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDiC83Usn2s wrote a song about it]].
* Music/KurtCobain of {{Music/Nirvana}} shot himself at his home. Surrounded by UsefulNotes/ConspiracyTheories that he was murdered mostly based around some of the misconceptions outlined above. Notably that a note found with his body "doesn't read like a suicide note" even though it is a long rambling apology to his fans for his apathy towards his success and his shame at not appreciating them.
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tchaikovsky Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky]] arguably killed himself after former "friends" threatened to go public about his homosexuality.
** The notably fatalistic Tchaikovsky drank unboiled water during a cholera outbreak. It may have been a deliberate suicide attempt; it may have been just not caring any more whether he lived. His life was something of a shambles, despite his musical successes to that point.
* To put it politely, it isn't exactly an unfounded stereotype when you hear about poets always committing suicide. The "Confessional Poetry" movement of the Modernist era is a particularly morbid example. Again, to put it politely, all of the examples given in the opening paragraph on the article for the movement on Wiki/TheOtherWiki took their own lives.
* [[KidsAreCruel School bullies]] drive their victims to suicide so often that there's a specific term for it: "bullycide". Just part of growing up... right?
** Also has spread to the internet in places like [=MySpace=], where some people are hounded and tormented by other people to the point where they announce their plans to kill themselves and their tormentors ''[[SuicideDare cheer them on]]''. There has been one case that made the news where a teenage girl named Megan Meier was harassed over and over again over a personal issue in her life and she killed herself. It was revealed that the tormentor was an adult woman who knew the girl in person and didn't like her. There are [[MoralEventHorizon no words]].
** Combine KidsAreCruel and AdultsAreUseless, and you have the case of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Phoebe_Prince Phoebe Prince]].
* France Télécom employees: 46 have committed suicide from January 2008 to April 2010, due to a management style based on permanent harassment and stress.
** Questionable. France Télécom employs 180,000 people (from engineers to civil servants from its government-owned days). 46 out of France Télécom's 180,000 employees means the suicide rate of France Télécom employees is 25 per 100,000; very close to the [[http://www.who.int/mental_health/media/fran.pdf average suicide rate of France]], slightly below by some estimates, slightly above by others. In other words, being France Télécom employees was most likely incidental to their suicides.
** [[http://reason.com/blog/2009/10/06/is-french-capitalism-causing-m A somewhat facetious and unsympathetic look]] at the phenomenon by the people at Reason Magazine draws this conclusion.
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Speight Mark Speight]], a presenter on the British children's art program ''[=SMart=]''. He was discovered to have hung himself near [[UsefulNotes/TheLondonUnderground Paddington Station]] after his fiancée died.
* 41% of trans people have attempted suicide (but lived to be able to report this) [[http://transequality.org/PDFs/Executive_Summary.pdf]]. For obvious reasons, there really isn't a way to know how many completed suicides there has been among trans people, and also many other LGBT individuals, especially [[TearJerker young people and teenagers]].
* More about the Werther Effect: After German author Creator/JohannWolfgangVonGoethe wrote ''Literature/TheSorrowsOfYoungWerther'' (mentioned above), young men who were deeply affected by the novel because of its subject manner (a young man in unrequited love with a beautiful young woman who was attached to a much older man) would visit Goethe and confess their own unrequited loves to him, then they'd depart and commit suicide.
** Of course, most copycat suicides from the book didn't involve the young man in question meeting Goethe in person; so many young German men were found drowned with ''The Sorrows of Young Werther'' on their bodies that Goethe prefaced the second edition with the text, "Be a man, and do not follow me!"
* [[http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/09/29/Sex_Video_Drives_Rutgers_Freshman_to_Suicide This story]] of a student who committed suicide after [[ForcedOutOfTheCloset being outed as gay]] due to a [[DeadlyPrank prank.]]
* Including the young man in the news story above, at this writing, 6 gay teens across the United States have taken their own lives in just one week. [[GayngstInducedSuicide For every LGBT kid who commits suicide, another 20 try]].
* Ian Curtis of Music/JoyDivision hung himself, due most likely to his collapsing marriage and bouts of severe epilepsy, combined with pre-existing depression.
* [[http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/2010/10/20/being-suicidal-what-it-feels-like-to-want-to-kill-yourself/ A useful article]] on what it feels like to want to commit suicide.
* [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Adolf_Hitler#Suicide Perhaps the only time to win an argument by using]] GodwinsLaw.
* The award-winning photojournalist Kevin Carter (who was the subject of the Music/ManicStreetPreachers song of the same name) killed himself due to the many [[HumansAreBastards horrific things]] he had [[CreatorBreakdown seen and photographed]] over the years.
* Speaking of the Manic Street Preachers, their former lyricist and rhythm guitarist Richey James Edwards might be an example. Depressed, self harming, anorexic, and an alcoholic, Richey went missing in early February 1995 and has never been seen since. While a body has never been found, his car was found not far from the Severn Bridge, a notorious suicide spot.
* Baku Hatakeyama, best known for playing Ki Ranger in ''Series/HimitsuSentaiGoranger'', killed himself for that very reason. Unable to escape IAmNotSpock as Ki Ranger, and unable to find work in general, with financial problems as well, committed suicide, much to the regret of Aka Ranger Naoya Makoto.
* The creator of the webcomic ''Webcomic/SexyLosers'' has chronic depression. His most recent webcomic, ''Webcomic/DepressionComix'', depicts his personal experiences of what it's like to live with depression, including self-harm and thoughts of suicide.
* Creator/GeorgeSanders committed suicide, apparently, due to [[SeenItAllSuicide boredom and overall hatred for the world]].
--> ''Dear World, I am leaving because I am bored. I feel I have lived long enough. I am leaving you with your worries in this sweet cesspool. Good luck. [signed]''
* Music/YoshikiHayashi's father committed suicide when his son was still a young teenager, out of either depression and/or severe physical health problems that went undiagnosed at the time (knowledge of thyroid conditions causing mental health issues was fairly limited in the 1970s). This had an obviously very painful influence on Yoshiki's life, and the song "Tears" is both dedicated to his father and to someone else...
** [[Music/HidetoMatsumoto hide]] committed suicide by accident in 1998. It may or may not have been a "true" suicide, as there is plenty of evidence he had plans for the future and did not actively plan to kill himself, (and the actual death could have been anything from a drunken attempt at self-treatment of neck pain to a drunken sexual act) but it was also obvious that at the end hide was losing control of his life and his use of certain substances, primarily alcohol, and didn't seem to care whether he lived or died. He is the other person to whom "Tears" is dedicated.
* See the note above on Confessional Poetry? VisualKei is a close competitor, with many suicides and alleged suicides as well as survived attempts. This results from the general view of suicide in Japan as well as factors specific to the scene and the people who usually tend to become a part of it.
** Accidental suicide is also a ''huge'' problem in the Visual Kei scene (as it tends to be in HeavyMetal / HardRock in general) because of a combination of a lot of highly driven, competitive young men who unfortunately also often suffer from untreated mental illnesses (often eating disorders or substance abuse), NoOSHACompliance, and relatively easy access to alcohol and drugs.
* In the summer of 2011, three UsefulNotes/NationalHockeyLeague "enforcers," guys whose job on the team had been to get into fights, died; one, Derek Boogard, from an overdose of painkillers, and two, Rick Rypien & Wade Belak from what is generally though to be suicide, though Belak's family has tried to argue otherwise. It was only after their deaths that it came out that the latter two had struggled with depression for a long time, and then that they were hardly the only enforcers so affected, and together these three deaths opened a public discussion about the physical and emotional toll their career takes on enforcers.
* Creator/RobinWilliams took his own life after a long struggle with depression and alcoholism, although there's some evidence it may have also been due to his suffering a terminal illness, Lewy body dementia. Humor website ''Website/{{Cracked}}'' [[http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/robin-williams-why-funny-people-kill-themselves/ observed]] that [[SadClown depression is extremely common among comedians]], and revealed that they monitor their blog comments for indications of suicidal tendencies [[YouAreNotAlone so they can offer support and encouragement]].
* [[Music/BrokenHope Joe Ptacek]] shot himself in 2010. The reason why is still unknown; Jeremy Wagner (who was still good friends with him) had been talking with him for a while and the two were apparently formulating plans for bringing back Broken Hope. By all accounts, he appeared upbeat and positive, seemed to be healthy, and sounded like he was feeling optimistic about the Broken Hope reunion and life in general. If Wagner ever did find out why, it seems highly unlikely that he would be willing to talk about it.
* The death of Justin Lowe of After the Burial fame may have been this, or it may have merely been an accidental fall. In either case, he had apparently had a mix of mental illness, drug usage, high levels of stress, and general frustration with life brewing for quite a while that eventually manifested as a full-on (and very public) psychotic breakdown on Facebook, where he posted a lengthy, rambling story about what appeared to be a conspiracy involving his bandmates, Sumerian Records, and a large portion of the people in his life seeking to ruin him. After being placed in the care of his family, Lowe vanished sometime around July 20, 2015, and while his car was found abandoned in a parking lot near the Minnesota half of the Arcola High Bridge, he was not found until the day after, when a hiker found a body that was determined to be his. The death was ruled to be consistent with a fall, but authorities were not able to determine whether it was accidental or intentional. On one hand, he was clearly not in his right mind and may have acted with a total disregard for caution that led to his fall; on the other hand, the Arcola High Bridge is a notorious suicide spot and his breakdown indicated that he believed that he was going to get to the bottom of the supposed conspiracy, and being released to the care of his family may have constituted an ultimate failure for him that spurred him to take his own life.
* On May 17, 2017, Music/ChrisCornell of Music/{{Soundgarden}} was found unexpectedly dead immediately after performing a concert in Detroit, with a fitness band around his neck. The death was later confirmed to be a suicide by hanging, which shocked many as in the days and weeks leading to his death, he tweeted and posted many optimistic messages on social media. His friend, Chester Bennington of Music/LinkinPark, killed himself the same way on July 20, which would have been Cornell's 53rd birthday.
* Todd Honeycutt of Enfold Darkness hanged himself in former bandmate Elijah Whitehead's garage days after leaving the band in August of 2017. Honeycutt had been severely depressed for some time, and while he was universally beloved by fans and was an important part of ''Adversary Omnipotent'', their long-awaited and very well-received sophomore album, his relationship with his bandmates had grown increasingly frayed, and a Facebook post made less than a week prior to his death indicated that he felt that his bandmates didn't respect him and merely saw him as the bassist that they had settled on.
* [[https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/10/13/jumpers Kevin Hines and Keith Baldwin]] are two of a handful of people who have survived suicide attempts by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge. Both men reported, as have many other survivors, that they regretted their decision to jump almost immediately and spent the entire fall realizing they had just made a terrible decision.
--> "I instantly realized that everything in my life that Iíd thought was unfixable was totally fixable-- except for having just jumped." --Keith Baldwin
--> "My first thought was What the hell did I just do? I donít want to die." --Kevin Hines
22nd Feb '18 6:18:18 PM lakingsif
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* [[http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/09/29/Sex_Video_Drives_Rutgers_Freshman_to_Suicide This story]] of a student who committed suicide after being outed as gay due to a [[DeadlyPrank prank.]]
* Including the young man in the news story above, at this writing, 6 gay teens across the United States have taken their own lives in just one week. For every LGBT kid who commits suicide, another 20 try.

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* [[http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/09/29/Sex_Video_Drives_Rutgers_Freshman_to_Suicide This story]] of a student who committed suicide after [[ForcedOutOfTheCloset being outed as gay gay]] due to a [[DeadlyPrank prank.]]
* Including the young man in the news story above, at this writing, 6 gay teens across the United States have taken their own lives in just one week. [[GayngstInducedSuicide For every LGBT kid who commits suicide, another 20 try.try]].
2nd Feb '18 6:14:34 PM nombretomado
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* In the summer of 2011, three NationalHockeyLeague "enforcers," guys whose job on the team had been to get into fights, died; one, Derek Boogard, from an overdose of painkillers, and two, Rick Rypien & Wade Belak from what is generally though to be suicide, though Belak's family has tried to argue otherwise. It was only after their deaths that it came out that the latter two had struggled with depression for a long time, and then that they were hardly the only enforcers so affected, and together these three deaths opened a public discussion about the physical and emotional toll their career takes on enforcers.

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* In the summer of 2011, three NationalHockeyLeague UsefulNotes/NationalHockeyLeague "enforcers," guys whose job on the team had been to get into fights, died; one, Derek Boogard, from an overdose of painkillers, and two, Rick Rypien & Wade Belak from what is generally though to be suicide, though Belak's family has tried to argue otherwise. It was only after their deaths that it came out that the latter two had struggled with depression for a long time, and then that they were hardly the only enforcers so affected, and together these three deaths opened a public discussion about the physical and emotional toll their career takes on enforcers.
31st Jan '18 3:53:03 AM WillBGood
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* Scandinavians in general do have alarmingly high suicide rate. Given to [[GrimUpNorth hostile climate]], long and dark winters and Scandinavians' high average IQ (Emile Durkheim showed [[http://www.suicideireland.com/2010110153/General/suicide-overview/All-Pages.html high intelligence ''increases'' the risk of suicide)]], no personal bankrupt laws and work culture which does not tolerate failure, it is no surprise. Suicide is usually considered as "just another way to die" in Scandinavia.

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* Scandinavians in general do have alarmingly high suicide rate. Given to [[GrimUpNorth hostile climate]], long and dark winters and Scandinavians' high average IQ (Emile Durkheim showed [[http://www.showed high intelligence ''[[http://www.suicideireland.com/2010110153/General/suicide-overview/All-Pages.html high intelligence ''increases'' increases]]'' the risk of suicide)]], suicide), no personal bankrupt bankruptcy laws and a work culture which does not tolerate failure, it is no surprise. Suicide is usually considered as "just another way to die" in Scandinavia.
27th Jan '18 12:31:12 PM nombretomado
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* Painter VincentVanGogh is now known as a major post-impressionist artist, but his life was extremely hard. He was very talented, but only managed to sell two of his 2 000 artworks, living his life more or less in poverty. He also suffered from schizophrenia, possible bipolar disorder and depression during his last years. Eventually, the voices in his head got the best of him, and Van Gogh shot himself on the 27th of July 1890.

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* Painter VincentVanGogh Creator/VincentVanGogh is now known as a major post-impressionist artist, but his life was extremely hard. He was very talented, but only managed to sell two of his 2 000 artworks, living his life more or less in poverty. He also suffered from schizophrenia, possible bipolar disorder and depression during his last years. Eventually, the voices in his head got the best of him, and Van Gogh shot himself on the 27th of July 1890.
29th Oct '17 2:15:29 PM Jeduthun
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* [[https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/10/13/jumpers Kevin Hines and Keith Baldwin]] are two of a handful of people who have survived suicide attempts by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge. Both men reported, as have many other survivors, that they regretted their decision to jump almost immediately and spent the entire fall realizing they had just made a terrible decision.
--> "I instantly realized that everything in my life that Iíd thought was unfixable was totally fixable-- except for having just jumped." --Keith Baldwin
--> "My first thought was What the hell did I just do? I donít want to die." --Kevin Hines
20th Oct '17 1:45:06 PM Premonition45
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* Music/ChrisCornell of Music/{{Soundgarden}} was found unexpectedly dead immediately after performing a concert in Detroit, with a fitness band around his neck. The death was later confirmed to be a suicide by hanging, which shocked many as in the days and weeks leading to his death, he tweeted and posted many optimistic messages on social media.

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* On May 17, 2017, Music/ChrisCornell of Music/{{Soundgarden}} was found unexpectedly dead immediately after performing a concert in Detroit, with a fitness band around his neck. The death was later confirmed to be a suicide by hanging, which shocked many as in the days and weeks leading to his death, he tweeted and posted many optimistic messages on social media. His friend, Chester Bennington of Music/LinkinPark, killed himself the same way on July 20, which would have been Cornell's 53rd birthday.
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