History UsefulNotes / Solipsism

12th Aug '17 9:34:55 PM zealots
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* Interestingly similar to the above Adam Susan in her delusion that only two entities exist is the ''Franchise/XMen'' villain Cassandra Nova, the literal EvilTwin of Charles Xavier who fought him in the womb to be born and lost. Because he was such a powerful mutant, Nova was able to survive, and spent the next forty years as protoplasm on the wall of a sewer building herself a body. Because of this isolation (and her general insanity) Nova is convinced that she and Charles are the only beings in creation that actually exist, and that everything and everyone else are just creations of either him or her. And because her brother champions and protects mutants, she decides to become an OmnicidalManiac and kill off as many of them as she can just to spite him.

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* Interestingly similar to the above Adam Susan in her delusion that only two entities exist is the ''Franchise/XMen'' villain Cassandra Nova, the literal EvilTwin of Charles Xavier who fought him in the womb to be born and lost. Because he was such a powerful mutant, Nova was able to survive, and spent the next forty years as protoplasm on the wall of a sewer building herself a body. Because of this isolation (and her general insanity) Nova is convinced that she and Charles are the only beings in creation that actually exist, and that everything and everyone else are just creations of either him or her. And because her brother champions and protects mutants, {{Mutants}}, she decides to become an OmnicidalManiac and kill off as many of them as she can just to spite him.
12th Aug '17 9:33:54 PM zealots
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* Interestingly similar to the above Adam Susan in her delusion that only two entities exist is the ''Franchise/XMen'' villain Cassandra Nova, the literal EvilTwin of Charles Xavier who fought him in the womb to be born and lost. Because he was such a powerful mutant, Nova was able to survive, and spent the next forty years as protoplasm on the wall of a sewer building herself a body. Because of this isolation (and her general insanity) Nova is convinced that she and Charles are the only beings in creation that actually exist, and that everything and everyone else are just creations of either him or her. And because her brother champions and protects mutants, she decides to become an OmnicidalManiac and kill off as many of them as she can just to spite him.
18th Jul '17 8:43:00 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* In ''Webcomic/{{Fans}}'', a {{Mad Scientist}}'s ray gun traps Marc in a dimension populated entirely by fractal copies of himself. Over the [[YearInsideHourOutside centuries]] that pass within "Marcworld," the occasional Marc-copy goes mad, believes he's the only one who really exists, and decides the only way to escape the CuckooNest is to kill all the "fake" fractal Marcs. ("Hold still, runts! This won't hurt, 'cause you don't exist!") This happens often enough that one or more Marcs become GenreSavvy and publish a pamphlet which refutes this metaphysical solipsism by pointing out that many others have come to the same conclusion, only to find that going on a "[[AxCrazy psycho rampage]]" doesn't, in fact, cause oneself to "wake up back in reality."

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* In ''Webcomic/{{Fans}}'', a {{Mad Scientist}}'s ray gun traps Marc in a dimension populated entirely by fractal copies of himself. Over the [[YearInsideHourOutside centuries]] that pass within "Marcworld," the occasional Marc-copy goes mad, believes he's the only one who really exists, and decides the only way to escape the CuckooNest is to kill all the "fake" fractal Marcs. ("Hold still, runts! This won't hurt, 'cause you don't exist!") This happens often enough that one or more Marcs become GenreSavvy and publish a pamphlet which refutes this metaphysical solipsism by pointing out that many others have come to the same conclusion, only to find that going on a "[[AxCrazy psycho rampage]]" doesn't, in fact, cause oneself to "wake up back in reality."
8th Jul '17 10:36:56 AM nombretomado
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What Gorgias had to say concerned TheTreacheryOfImages, writ large: we should be careful about what we (think we) see, and how much we trust our senses. TheOtherWiki has a very useful illustration:

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What Gorgias had to say concerned TheTreacheryOfImages, writ large: we should be careful about what we (think we) see, and how much we trust our senses. TheOtherWiki Wiki/TheOtherWiki has a very useful illustration:
4th Jun '17 12:26:34 PM nombretomado
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And here's the scary thing: ''neither can anybody else''. Even if you ask your friend to come over and confirm the existence of the thing, the problem is that his or her eyes and nerves are just as fallible, just as untrustworthy, as yours. In other words, while the two of you can largely agree on the mass hallucination you call "a computer screen," it still ''is'' a mass hallucination. Maybe the computer screen is projecting something entirely different. Maybe what we call "blue" is actually orange. Maybe the computer screen ''isn't'' there. Something must ''be'' there, to create the physical phenomena we call "computer screen," but there is nothing to guarantee that said thing is anything like what we call a computer screen... or, indeed, is anything like anything at all. Heck, maybe it ''isn't'' there! We still can't verify the thing's qualities; how can we possibly verify its existence?? It may actually exist--it ''probably'' exists; otherwise the fact that we are seeing the contents of a TVTropes UsefulNotes page printed on thin air says something rather unflattering about our SanityMeter--but we cannot '''prove''' it.

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And here's the scary thing: ''neither can anybody else''. Even if you ask your friend to come over and confirm the existence of the thing, the problem is that his or her eyes and nerves are just as fallible, just as untrustworthy, as yours. In other words, while the two of you can largely agree on the mass hallucination you call "a computer screen," it still ''is'' a mass hallucination. Maybe the computer screen is projecting something entirely different. Maybe what we call "blue" is actually orange. Maybe the computer screen ''isn't'' there. Something must ''be'' there, to create the physical phenomena we call "computer screen," but there is nothing to guarantee that said thing is anything like what we call a computer screen... or, indeed, is anything like anything at all. Heck, maybe it ''isn't'' there! We still can't verify the thing's qualities; how can we possibly verify its existence?? It may actually exist--it ''probably'' exists; otherwise the fact that we are seeing the contents of a TVTropes Wiki/TVTropes UsefulNotes page printed on thin air says something rather unflattering about our SanityMeter--but we cannot '''prove''' it.
4th May '17 5:06:41 PM Fireblood
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* In the french movie ''Seuls'', when the main character Leïla discover that the reason she is all alone with four other kids in a deserted Paris [[spoiler:is that she has been killed the same night as they were, which leads her to believe for a moment that she imagined all of her journey and that she is the only "real" one as she thinks she can't trust her mind anymore.]]

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* In the french French movie ''Seuls'', when the main character Leïla discover that the reason she is all alone with four other kids in a deserted Paris [[spoiler:is that she has been killed the same night as they were, which leads her to believe for a moment that she imagined all of her journey and that she is the only "real" one as she thinks she can't trust her mind anymore.]]
4th May '17 5:05:32 PM Fireblood
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* There's a Creator/RayBradbury short story, ''No Particular Night or Morning'', built around this concept. Joseph Hitchcock, an astronaut on a deep space mission becomes convinced that his past life on Earth was merely a dream or fantasy, including his past experiences with his wife and son. He takes it to the illogical conclusion, [[NoObjectPermanence refusing to believe that anything not right in front of him exists]], including moments, objects, persons and even his younger self. Despite Clemens, a friend, trying to keep him grounded, he ultimately GoesMadFromTheRevelation [[spoiler: and leaves the ship in a spacesuit, now wandering in space until his unevitable death]].

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* There's a Creator/RayBradbury short story, ''No Particular Night or Morning'', built around this concept. Joseph Hitchcock, an astronaut on a deep space mission becomes convinced that his past life on Earth was merely a dream or fantasy, including his past experiences with his wife and son. He takes it to the illogical conclusion, [[NoObjectPermanence refusing to believe that anything not right in front of him exists]], including moments, objects, persons and even his younger self. Despite Clemens, a friend, trying to keep him grounded, he ultimately GoesMadFromTheRevelation [[spoiler: and leaves the ship in a spacesuit, now wandering in space until his unevitable inevitable death]].




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* Philosopher Creator/BertrandRussell once made the following quip regarding solipsism:
-->“As against solipsism it is to be said, in the first place, that it is psychologically impossible to believe, and is rejected in fact even by those who mean to accept it. I once received a letter from an eminent logician, Mrs. Christine Ladd-Franklin, saying that she was a solipsist, and was surprised that there were no others. Coming from a logician and a solipsist, her surprise surprised me.”
2nd May '17 12:08:44 AM Fireblood
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* At the end of ''Literature/TheMysteriousStranger'', the last words of Satan about existence tends to this concept

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* At the end of ''Literature/TheMysteriousStranger'', the last words of Satan about existence tends to this conceptconcept:
24th Apr '17 7:16:11 AM NickHunter26
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* At the end of ''Literature/TheMysteriousStranger'', the last words of Satan about existence tends to this concept
-->'''Satan''': Life itself is only a vision; A dream. Nothing exists, but an empty space and you. And you are but a thought.
19th Apr '17 3:03:37 AM NickHunter26
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* There's a Creator/RayBradbury short story, ''No Particular Night or Morning'', built around this concept. Joseph Hitchcock, an astronaut on a deep space mission becomes convinced that his past life on Earth was merely a dream or fantasy, including his past experiences with his wife and daughter. He takes it to the illogical conclusion, [[NoObjectPermanence refusing to believe that anything not right in front of him exists]], including moments, objects, persons and even his former self. Despite Clemens, a friend, trying to keep him grounded, he ultimately GoesMadFromTheRevelation [[spoiler: and leaves the ship in a spacesuit, now wandering in space until his unevitable death]].

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* There's a Creator/RayBradbury short story, ''No Particular Night or Morning'', built around this concept. Joseph Hitchcock, an astronaut on a deep space mission becomes convinced that his past life on Earth was merely a dream or fantasy, including his past experiences with his wife and daughter. son. He takes it to the illogical conclusion, [[NoObjectPermanence refusing to believe that anything not right in front of him exists]], including moments, objects, persons and even his former younger self. Despite Clemens, a friend, trying to keep him grounded, he ultimately GoesMadFromTheRevelation [[spoiler: and leaves the ship in a spacesuit, now wandering in space until his unevitable death]].
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