History UsefulNotes / SiegeOfVienna

9th Oct '16 1:59:15 AM EDP
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* FutureFamousPeople: This was the first battle of Eugene of Savoy, who would go on becoming one of the greatest generals of his time.
30th Aug '16 1:27:01 AM Morgenthaler
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* TheCavalry: The allied army. Not the least of which was the [[PolesWithPatrolBoats Polish Army]], famed for having some of the finest horses in Europe and therefore was literal as well as metaphorical cavalry. In fact, the cavalry charge at Vienna was the largest in history: ''eighteen thousand knights'' (including three thousand Winged Hussars) led by King Jan III Sobieski prompted the Ottoman army to do a good impression of a piece of drywall hit with a sledgehammer.

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* TheCavalry: The allied army. Not the least of which was the [[PolesWithPatrolBoats [[UsefulNotes/PolesWithPoleaxes Polish Army]], famed for having some of the finest horses in Europe and therefore was literal as well as metaphorical cavalry. In fact, the cavalry charge at Vienna was the largest in history: ''eighteen thousand knights'' (including three thousand Winged Hussars) led by King Jan III Sobieski prompted the Ottoman army to do a good impression of a piece of drywall hit with a sledgehammer.
7th Aug '16 6:25:18 PM Morgenthaler
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* [[PolesWithPatrolBoats Poles With Lances]]



* TurksWithTroops
31st Jan '16 5:23:25 AM TenTwelveEleven
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** To give an idea of how massive it was, that's ''three times'' the size of the Rohirrim Charge in [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings The Return of the King]].
7th Oct '15 9:01:04 AM Veanne
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** Sobieski's real fault was that he was a good warrior, but a somewhat lousy politician, unwittingly preparing the ground for later Russian dominance over Poland. Plus, a reason why Turkey didn't recognise the Partitions was that they were [[WorthyOpponent quite impressed by Sobieski]] and Poles.

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** Sobieski's real fault was that he was a good warrior, but a somewhat lousy politician, unwittingly preparing the ground for later Russian dominance over Poland. Plus, a reason why Turkey didn't recognise the Partitions was that they were [[WorthyOpponent quite impressed by Sobieski]] and Poles.Poles [[note]]Also, Turkey had its own war with Russia at the time.[[/note]].



** Kara Mustafa himself. By all accounts, the Turks should have captured Vienna. However, Mustafa decided to wait. This was probably because he gambled on the Austrians surrendering, which would have allowed him to claim all the city's possessions for the Sultan, whereas if the city was taken by force, its possessions would be divvied out between the army. Instead of attacking, he bided his time and was caught completely by surprise by the Polish and German reinforcements. Had he won, the Ottomans would have used Vienna as a bridge to Western Europe. Instead, it marked the stagnation of their holdings in Europe.

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** Kara Mustafa himself. By all accounts, the Turks should have captured Vienna. However, Mustafa decided to wait. This was probably because he gambled on the Austrians surrendering, which would have allowed him to claim all the city's possessions for the Sultan, whereas if the city was taken by force, its possessions would be divvied out between the army. Instead of attacking, he bided bid his time and was caught completely by surprise by the Polish and German reinforcements. Had he won, the Ottomans would have used Vienna as a bridge to Western Europe. Instead, it marked the stagnation of their holdings in Europe.



* YouHaveFailedMe: The Grand Vizier was executed for his defeat at the battle. A celebrated anecdote has him move his beard out of the way of the executioner's garotte.

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* YouHaveFailedMe: The Grand Vizier was executed for his defeat at the battle. A celebrated anecdote has him move his beard out of the way of the executioner's garotte.garrotte.
14th Aug '15 1:29:06 AM Veanne
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* [[EvilChancellor Morally ambigius Chancellor]] : Kara Mustafa. ([[AwesomeMcCoolName That is a cool name though]]).

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* [[EvilChancellor Morally ambigius Chancellor]] : Ambiguous Chancellor]]: Kara Mustafa. ([[AwesomeMcCoolName That is a cool name though]]).



* {{Folkhero}}: It is said that the first [[MustHaveCaffeine Vienna coffeehouse]] was opened by a merchant who found coffee when gathering {{plunder}} from the Ottoman camp.

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* {{Folkhero}}: It is said Legend has it that the first [[MustHaveCaffeine Vienna coffeehouse]] was opened by a merchant who found coffee when while gathering {{plunder}} from the Ottoman camp.



** Also qualifies as TheRepublic--the King was elected by the nobles, of whom there were quite a lot.

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** Also qualifies as TheRepublic--the King was [[ElectiveMonarchy elected by the nobles, nobles]] who constituted roughly 10% of whom there were quite a lot.the population.



* RealMenLoveJesus : Jan Sobieski.

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* RealMenLoveJesus : RealMenLoveJesus: Jan Sobieski.



*** Actually, Stefan Batory (who was the king of Poland a while back) was trying to get ''Russia's'' help against Turkey (Russia wasn't really interested).



** Granted, "Austrian Poland" was generally benign (the Habsburgs are still recalled well SoIveHeard).

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** Granted, "Austrian Poland" was generally benign (the Habsburgs are still recalled well SoIveHeard).OrSoIHeard).
30th Jun '14 3:48:14 PM EDP
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* TheAlliance: Poland, Austria, France and others.

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* TheAlliance: Poland, Austria, France Royal Hungary, and others.others.
** In theory the Ottoman army as well, as it included Crimean Tatars, Moldavian, Wallachian and Transylvanian troops. In practice, however, the Moldavians, Wallachians and Transylvanians didn't take part in the battle, and [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere the Crimeans retreated as soon as the Poles started their charge]].



* TheCavalry: The allied army . Not the least of which was the [[PolesWithPatrolBoats Polish Army]], famed for having some of the finest horses in Europe and therefore was literal as well as metaphorical cavalry. In fact, the cavalry charge at Vienna was the largest in history: 3000 Winged Hussars led by King Jan III Sobieski prompted the Ottoman army to do a good impression of a piece of drywall hit with a sledgehammer.

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* TheCavalry: The allied army .army. Not the least of which was the [[PolesWithPatrolBoats Polish Army]], famed for having some of the finest horses in Europe and therefore was literal as well as metaphorical cavalry. In fact, the cavalry charge at Vienna was the largest in history: 3000 ''eighteen thousand knights'' (including three thousand Winged Hussars Hussars) led by King Jan III Sobieski prompted the Ottoman army to do a good impression of a piece of drywall hit with a sledgehammer.
22nd Feb '14 1:39:27 AM Achaemenid
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* YouHaveFailedMe: The Grand Vizier was executed for his defeat at the battle.

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* YouHaveFailedMe: The Grand Vizier was executed for his defeat at the battle.
battle. A celebrated anecdote has him move his beard out of the way of the executioner's garotte.
21st Dec '13 3:32:47 PM LongLiveHumour
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An earlier siege in 1529 by Suleyman the Magnificent is also important historically, and may sometimes be confused with the the later one. Together with the siege of Malta and BattleOfLepanto, it pretty much defined the limits of the Ottoman Empire's reach in Europe and the Mediterranean Sea.

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An earlier siege in 1529 by Suleyman the Magnificent is also important historically, and may sometimes be confused with the the later one. Together with the siege of Malta and BattleOfLepanto, UsefulNotes/BattleOfLepanto, it pretty much defined the limits of the Ottoman Empire's reach in Europe and the Mediterranean Sea.
9th Nov '13 10:51:37 AM Achaemenid
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-->''Venimus, vidimus, Deus vincit''[[note]]We came, we saw, God conquered.[[/note]]
-->-'''Jan III Sobieski'''



* TheCavalry: The allied army . Not the least of which was the [[PolesWithPatrolBoats Polish Army]], famed for having some of the finest horses in Europe and therefore was literal as well as metaphorical cavalry.

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* TheCavalry: The allied army . Not the least of which was the [[PolesWithPatrolBoats Polish Army]], famed for having some of the finest horses in Europe and therefore was literal as well as metaphorical cavalry. In fact, the cavalry charge at Vienna was the largest in history: 3000 Winged Hussars led by King Jan III Sobieski prompted the Ottoman army to do a good impression of a piece of drywall hit with a sledgehammer.
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