History UsefulNotes / PolesWithPoleaxes

9th Apr '16 12:56:22 AM Canaris
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* Second book of the ''Axis of Time'' trilogy features squadron 303 and real life badass and fighter ace Jan Zumbach, defending HMS Trident during the operation ''Sea Dragon'' a.k.a. Nazi Germany invasion of Britain.
4th Jan '16 12:38:36 AM Preussak
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Since its entry to NATO in 1999, the Polish Army participated and participate in numerous peacekeeping, humanitarian, police, training and observational missions in Europe, Afraica and Asia (especially in Kosovo, Iraq, Chad and Afghanistan). Currently they are plans to send a small contingent of soldiers (with British and Americans) to train an Ukrainian officers.


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Since its entry to NATO in 1999, the Polish Army participated and participate in numerous peacekeeping, humanitarian, police, training and observational missions in Europe, Afraica and Asia (especially in Kosovo, Iraq, Chad and Afghanistan). Currently they there are plans to send a small contingent of soldiers (with British and Americans) to train an Ukrainian officers.

16th Dec '15 10:59:42 AM Morgenthaler
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* Introduction to ''{{Gear Krieg}}'' game features Polish cavalry fighting invading Germans in September 1939 while playing with ''charging tanks with lances'' fallacy.

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* Introduction to ''{{Gear Krieg}}'' ''TabletopGame/GearKrieg'' game features Polish cavalry fighting invading Germans in September 1939 while playing with ''charging tanks with lances'' fallacy.
20th Sep '15 5:31:38 PM nombretomado
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[[caption-width-right:350:"[[NapoleonicWars For my Poles,]] ''[[JackOfAllStats nothing]]'' [[BadassBoast is impossible.]]" - [[UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte Napoleon]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:"[[NapoleonicWars [[caption-width-right:350:"[[UsefulNotes/TheNapoleonicWars For my Poles,]] ''[[JackOfAllStats nothing]]'' [[BadassBoast is impossible.]]" - [[UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte Napoleon]]]]



The loss of independence in the late XVIII Century (between 1795 and 1918 Poland was divided between Russia, Prussia/Germany and Austria/Austro-Hungarian Empire) didn't exactly turn Poles into pacifists, either. This period saw the infatuation with SinisterScythe in several uprisings, and Poles (and with them, once more, the Polish cavalry which shone on many battlefields of [[NapoleonicWars the time]]) were amongst the most loyal allies of UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte. Poles also served across the world as exiles; Casimir Pulaski and Tadeusz Kościuszko being two notable examples, serving in [[YanksWithTanks the Continental Army]] of the infant United States during UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution. Pulaski is commemorated as "the father of American cavalry". Polish officers also served in the Austrian and Russian armies during the period of occupation.

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The loss of independence in the late XVIII Century (between 1795 and 1918 Poland was divided between Russia, Prussia/Germany and Austria/Austro-Hungarian Empire) didn't exactly turn Poles into pacifists, either. This period saw the infatuation with SinisterScythe in several uprisings, and Poles (and with them, once more, the Polish cavalry which shone on many battlefields of [[NapoleonicWars [[UsefulNotes/TheNapoleonicWars the time]]) were amongst the most loyal allies of UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte. Poles also served across the world as exiles; Casimir Pulaski and Tadeusz Kościuszko being two notable examples, serving in [[YanksWithTanks the Continental Army]] of the infant United States during UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution. Pulaski is commemorated as "the father of American cavalry". Polish officers also served in the Austrian and Russian armies during the period of occupation.
5th Sep '15 8:12:58 PM nombretomado
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During the communism years, the Soviet way of doing things was imposed on WarsawPact member Poland. Since the end of communism, Poland is now moving to {{NATO}} standards. It has just abolished conscription and is moving towards a post-modern volunteer force.

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During the communism years, the Soviet way of doing things was imposed on WarsawPact member Poland. Since the end of communism, Poland is now moving to {{NATO}} UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} standards. It has just abolished conscription and is moving towards a post-modern volunteer force.
4th Sep '15 8:40:06 PM nombretomado
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[[caption-width-right:350:"[[NapoleonicWars For my Poles,]] ''[[JackOfAllStats nothing]]'' [[BadassBoast is impossible.]]" - [[NapoleonBonaparte Napoleon]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:"[[NapoleonicWars For my Poles,]] ''[[JackOfAllStats nothing]]'' [[BadassBoast is impossible.]]" - [[NapoleonBonaparte [[UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte Napoleon]]]]



The loss of independence in the late XVIII Century (between 1795 and 1918 Poland was divided between Russia, Prussia/Germany and Austria/Austro-Hungarian Empire) didn't exactly turn Poles into pacifists, either. This period saw the infatuation with SinisterScythe in several uprisings, and Poles (and with them, once more, the Polish cavalry which shone on many battlefields of [[NapoleonicWars the time]]) were amongst the most loyal allies of NapoleonBonaparte. Poles also served across the world as exiles; Casimir Pulaski and Tadeusz Kościuszko being two notable examples, serving in [[YanksWithTanks the Continental Army]] of the infant United States during UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution. Pulaski is commemorated as "the father of American cavalry". Polish officers also served in the Austrian and Russian armies during the period of occupation.

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The loss of independence in the late XVIII Century (between 1795 and 1918 Poland was divided between Russia, Prussia/Germany and Austria/Austro-Hungarian Empire) didn't exactly turn Poles into pacifists, either. This period saw the infatuation with SinisterScythe in several uprisings, and Poles (and with them, once more, the Polish cavalry which shone on many battlefields of [[NapoleonicWars the time]]) were amongst the most loyal allies of NapoleonBonaparte.UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte. Poles also served across the world as exiles; Casimir Pulaski and Tadeusz Kościuszko being two notable examples, serving in [[YanksWithTanks the Continental Army]] of the infant United States during UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution. Pulaski is commemorated as "the father of American cavalry". Polish officers also served in the Austrian and Russian armies during the period of occupation.
3rd Jul '15 12:48:36 AM MAI742
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After regaining independence in 1918, Polish Army faced the task to integrate organization, tactics and equipment from the three different armies. This proved quite a task, but after several years their army was well unified and organized, and it was more than able to resist a Bolshevik invasion - Stalin and Trotsky were humiliated in a CurbStompBattle outside Warsaw in 1921. Contrary to popular belief, Polish pre-war army was not obsolete (on the contrary, it quickly adapted most modern technologies) but was underfunded and military industry was no match for the industry of other countries. Even then, Poland held out for nearly as long as France did. The whole "charging at tanks" story is Nazi propaganda - what actually happened was the tanks charged at the cavalry, after ambushing them before they got a chance to dismount and engage them with anti-tank rifles. While the Poles still used horses in war (as did the Germans), and still had mounted cavalry, the horses were, at best, used as a fast and cheap method of transport for squads who would then dismount and fight on foot. Mounted recon troops were also common. Indeed, horse mounted Polish troops scored some notable successes in Poland and abroad.

The Polish military were "The First to Fight" in WorldWarTwo[[note]]On the Allied side; On the Axis', it was the German battleship ''Schleswig-Holstein'' which actually fired the first shots, in Danzig (now Gdansk).[[/note]], playing a major role in the Battle of Britain and having their own version of LaResistance (counting as much as a million people, several hundred thousands at once at its peak and maintained a whole functioning government, complete with postal and tax services, in form of the Polish Underground State, functioning in secrecy right under the noses of the occupying Germans). The Polish state maintained the overall largest partisan movement in history, in fact (Tito's Balkan resistance was larger in absolute numbers past ~1943, though it didn't have the state infrastructure as developed). They also gave a great deal of Intelligence support having some of the best field agents in Europe, and cryptographers who were GoodWithNumbers (they actually broke the merchant version of the Enigma code and thus greatly contributed to the joint effort of breaking the military one). It is worth noting that a large part of the Polish LaResistance consisted of soldiers and officers (many of them veterans of the First World War) who decided not to surrender and continued to fight as partisans. Polish troops that had successfully withdrawn from occupied territory were later formed into many units fighting along the Allies, usually British. Among the best known are the 1st Independent Parachute Brigade (Market-Garden), 303 Squadron (the highest-scoring squadron in the Battle of Britain), the Polish Independent Highland Brigade (Narvik Campaign), the Polish Independent Carpathian Brigade (Siege of Tobruk), the 1st Armored Division (Falaise pocket) and the Polish II Corps (Italian Campaign). During WWII Poland lost nearly 17% of its pre-war population during the war and subsequent occupations (the second-highest casualty rate of WWII), and held out against the simultaneous invasions of Russia and Germany longer than France would in 1940.

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After regaining independence in 1918, Polish Army faced the task to integrate organization, tactics and equipment from the three different armies. This proved quite a task, but after several years their army was well unified and organized, and it was more than able capable of [[UsefulNotes/PolishSovietWar fighting the Soviet Union to resist a Bolshevik invasion draw after invading it and being invaded by it in turn]] - the unit Stalin and Trotsky were was attached to, as a commissar, was humiliated in a CurbStompBattle outside Warsaw in 1921. Contrary to popular belief, Polish Poland's pre-war army was not obsolete (on actually fairly cutting-edge (making effective use of mechanised-cavalry units in a mobile defense). However, the contrary, country sorely lacked artillery and aeroplanes and more importantly had inadequate doctrine and high-level command experience of prosecuting a large-scale war (something common to many contemporary countries including Romania and Japan).

Interestingly,
it quickly adapted most modern technologies) but was underfunded and military industry was no match Poland's effective use of mechanised-cavalry forces for several successful counter-attacks upon German motorised units that served as the industry of other countries. Even then, Poland held out basis for nearly as long as France did. The whole "charging Germany's "horses charging at tanks" story is propaganda. Given the German Army's near-total reliance on cavalry for their logistical apparatus this denigration of the horse in Nazi propaganda - what actually happened was seems rather odd, but is understandable given the tanks charged at 'futurist'/'technocratic' aesthetic of the cavalry, after ambushing them before they got a chance to dismount movement. German and engage them with anti-tank rifles. While the Poles still used Soviet forces went on to use horses in war (as did logistics and combat (particularly reconnaissance) capacities throughout the Germans), and still had mounted cavalry, the horses were, at best, used as a fast and cheap method of transport for squads who would then dismount and fight on foot. Mounted recon troops were also common. Indeed, horse mounted Polish troops scored some notable successes in Poland and abroad.

war, with German reliance upon them increasing over time due to losses.

The Polish military were "The First to Fight" in WorldWarTwo[[note]]On the Allied side; On the Axis', it was the German battleship ''Schleswig-Holstein'' which actually fired the first shots, in Danzig (now Gdansk).[[/note]], Gdansk)[[/note]], playing a major role in the Battle of Britain and having their own version of LaResistance (counting as much as a million people, several hundred thousands at once at its peak and maintained a whole functioning government, complete with postal and tax services, in form of the Polish Underground State, functioning in secrecy right under the noses of the occupying Germans). The Polish state maintained the overall largest partisan movement in history, in fact (Tito's Balkan resistance was larger in absolute numbers past ~1943, though it didn't have the state infrastructure as developed). They also gave a great deal of Intelligence support having some of the best field agents in Europe, and cryptographers who were GoodWithNumbers (they actually broke the merchant version of the Enigma code and thus greatly contributed to the joint effort of breaking the military one). It is worth noting that a large part of the Polish LaResistance consisted of soldiers and officers (many of them veterans of the First World War) who decided not to surrender and continued to fight as partisans. Polish troops that had successfully withdrawn from occupied territory were later formed into many units fighting along the Allies, usually British. Among the best known are the 1st Independent Parachute Brigade (Market-Garden), 303 Squadron (the highest-scoring squadron in the Battle of Britain), the Polish Independent Highland Brigade (Narvik Campaign), the Polish Independent Carpathian Brigade (Siege of Tobruk), the 1st Armored Division (Falaise pocket) and the Polish II Corps (Italian Campaign). During WWII Poland lost nearly 17% of its pre-war population during the war and subsequent occupations (the second-highest casualty rate of WWII), and held out against the simultaneous invasions of Russia and Germany longer than France would in 1940.
16th May '15 11:55:14 AM Reynard1986
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* UN peacekeeper with Polish distinctions is seen for a second or two in action flick ''{{Peacemaker}}''.

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* UN peacekeeper with Polish distinctions is seen for a second or two in action flick flim ''{{Peacemaker}}''.



* A new war with Sweden (Gustavus Adolphus tried to invade Poland once before, in the 1620's) features heavily in the 1635 volumes of the ''Literature/SixteenThirtyTwo'' series. Notably the Polish army is the only major military power in the series able to effectively fight off the Swedish king and his American allies (albeit aided by the weather).

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* A new war with Sweden (Gustavus Adolphus tried to invade Poland once before, in the 1620's) features them heavily in the 1635 volumes of the ''Literature/SixteenThirtyTwo'' series. Notably the Polish army is the only major military power in the series able to effectively fight off the Swedish king and his American allies (albeit aided by the weather).



* Introduction to {{GearKrieg}} game features Polish cavalry fighting invading Germans in September 1939 while playing with ''charging tanks with lances'' fallacy.
* The LWP is a playable Warsaw Pact country in both ''[[VideoGame/WargameEuropeanEscalation Wargame: European Escalation]]'' and ''[=AirLand=] Battle''.

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* Introduction to {{GearKrieg}} ''{{Gear Krieg}}'' game features Polish cavalry fighting invading Germans in September 1939 while playing with ''charging tanks with lances'' fallacy.
* The LWP (Polish People Army) is a playable Warsaw Pact country in both ''[[VideoGame/WargameEuropeanEscalation Wargame: European Escalation]]'' and ''[=AirLand=] Battle''.''[=Air Land Battle=]'' expansion.



* The Kislevite Winged Lancers of the Warhammer world are a fantasy counterpart to the Polish Winged Lancers of the later Middle Ages, complete with the feathered wings on their saddles..
* Now that Poland is a playable faction in the PC expansion Civilization V Brave New World, Poland's special unit is the Winged Hussar.
* ''Videogame/MedalOfHonor Advanced Warfight'' has the GROM make an appearance.

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* The Kislevite Winged Lancers of the Warhammer world are a fantasy counterpart to the Polish Winged Lancers Husars of the later Middle Ages, complete with the feathered wings on their saddles..
saddles.
* Now that Poland is a playable faction in the PC expansion Civilization V Brave New World, Poland's World with Winged Hussar as the special unit is the Winged Hussar.
and Casimir III the Great as a leader.
* ''Videogame/MedalOfHonor Advanced Warfight'' Warfighter'' has the GROM make an appearance.
16th May '15 11:35:15 AM Reynard1986
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** Over 5000 man-portable/vehicle mounted anti-air and anti-aircraft missiles (Strzała-2, Grom/Piorun, Malyutka, Fagot, Metis, Spike)

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** Over 5000 man-portable/vehicle mounted anti-air anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles (Strzała-2, Grom/Piorun, Malyutka, Fagot, Metis, Spike)
8th May '15 8:52:02 PM nombretomado
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In 2012, there were negotiotions about building in Poland a part of the U.S. missile shield (Russia really did not like this idea) but it ultimately ended with a failure (Poland made quite a fuss over the [[GeorgeWBush Bush administration's]] idea of an anti-missile shield. The Polish reasoning was that American forces on Polish soil would ensure that the Americans would be [[SummonBiggerFish more likely to move]] in case anybody threatens Poland (similar to how American forces stationed in UsefulNotes/SouthKorea would be forced to respond to a North Korean attack). Seeing [[WorldWarII what]] [[UsefulNotes/ColdWar happened]] to Poland throughout the 20th century, it's at least [[ProperlyParanoid understandable]]).

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In 2012, there were negotiotions negotiations about building in Poland a part of the U.S. missile shield (Russia really did not like this idea) but it ultimately ended with a failure (Poland made quite a fuss over the [[GeorgeWBush [[UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush Bush administration's]] idea of an anti-missile shield. The Polish reasoning was that American forces on Polish soil would ensure that the Americans would be [[SummonBiggerFish more likely to move]] in case anybody threatens Poland (similar to how American forces stationed in UsefulNotes/SouthKorea would be forced to respond to a North Korean attack). Seeing [[WorldWarII what]] [[UsefulNotes/ColdWar happened]] to Poland throughout the 20th century, it's at least [[ProperlyParanoid understandable]]).
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