History UsefulNotes / Pillarisation

30th Oct '14 7:07:09 PM SamCurt
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For example, suppose you were a boy born around 1900 to Dutch Catholic parents. You would go to a Catholic primary school, and join a Catholic youth club with which you would go on Catholic summer camps. You would go to a Catholic secondary school, as well; if you wanted to take up a sport - say, football - you would join a Catholic football club [[note]]school sports teams never really caught on in the Netherlands[[/note]]. If your parents could afford to send you to university, it would probably be a Catholic one (i.e. Nijmegen or Tilburg), and if it wasn't, you would at least join a Catholic fraternity. Having completed your education and found a job somewhere, you would join a Catholic trade union; if your boss was also a Catholic, he would be a member of a Catholic employers' organisation. You would marry a Catholic girl (there was an old saying, ''twee geloven op één kussen, daar slaapt de duivel tussen'' - 'if two faiths are on one pillow, the Devil sleeps between them', expressing the taboo on inter-pillar marriage amongst the religious pillars), read a Catholic newspaper, listen to a Catholic radio station, vote for a Catholic party, buy from Catholic shopkeepers, and visit your Catholic friends. If you ever did something outrageous like listening to a Socialist radio station, buying from a Liberal shopkeeper or voting for a Protestant party, you faced social stigma and isolation.

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For example, suppose you were a boy born around 1900 to Dutch Catholic parents. You would go to a Catholic primary school, and join a Catholic youth club with which you would go on Catholic summer camps. You would go to a Catholic secondary school, as well; if you wanted to take up a sport - say, football - you would join a Catholic football club [[note]]school sports teams never really caught on in the Netherlands[[/note]].Netherlands. Also, Protestants play amateur football on Saturdays while the Catholics, Socialists and Liberals play on Sunday.[[/note]]. If your parents could afford to send you to university, it would probably be a Catholic one (i.e. Nijmegen or Tilburg), and if it wasn't, you would at least join a Catholic fraternity. Having completed your education and found a job somewhere, you would join a Catholic trade union; if your boss was also a Catholic, he would be a member of a Catholic employers' organisation. You would marry a Catholic girl (there was an old saying, ''twee geloven op één kussen, daar slaapt de duivel tussen'' - 'if two faiths are on one pillow, the Devil sleeps between them', expressing the taboo on inter-pillar marriage amongst the religious pillars), read a Catholic newspaper, listen to a Catholic radio station, station[[note]]This explains the very unique structure of the Dutch public broadcaster NPO. Unlike in other countries, NPO has no role on content. Rather, it is basically an organization that holds bandwidth and production facilities, and allocates public funds and airtime to broadcasting organizations owned by members of respective pillars. It is the responsibility of these organizations to produce their own content.[[/note]], vote for a Catholic party, buy from Catholic shopkeepers, and visit your Catholic friends. If you ever did something outrageous like listening to a Socialist radio station, buying from a Liberal shopkeeper or voting for a Protestant party, you faced social stigma and isolation.
8th Aug '14 10:07:11 AM MidnightRambler
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Pillarisation means that society was divided into a number of political and religious groups, called ''zuilen'' ("pillars"), and that there was a considerable degree of segregation between these pillars. Each pillar had its own institutions (schools, newspapers, political parties...) and members of different pillars rarely interacted with each other socially. Members of one pillar usually viewed the other pillars as different kinds of ScaryDogmaticAliens, although the political leaders got along fine behind the screens. Depending on which historian you ask, there were three to five pillars in the Netherlands:

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Pillarisation means that society was divided into a number of political and religious groups, called ''zuilen'' ("pillars"), and that there was a considerable degree of segregation between these pillars. Each pillar had its own institutions (schools, newspapers, political parties...) and members of different pillars rarely interacted with each other socially. Members of one pillar usually viewed the other pillars as different kinds of ScaryDogmaticAliens, although the political leaders got along fine behind the screens.scenes. Depending on which historian you ask, there were three to five pillars in the Netherlands:
11th Jun '14 4:23:23 PM Quag15
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A rather literal translation of the Dutch word ''verzuiling'', pillarisation was a curious social phenomenon that occurred in [[UsefulNotes/TheNetherlands the Netherlands]] approximately from the late 19th century to TheSixties of the 20th. (It happened in some other places as well, most notably Belgium and UsefulNotes/WeimarGermany; in yet other places, it is still alive and kicking. However, this article will focus on the Netherlands, as that is where pillarisation was most pronounced).

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A rather literal translation of the Dutch word ''verzuiling'', pillarisation was a curious social phenomenon that occurred in [[UsefulNotes/TheNetherlands the Netherlands]] approximately from the late 19th century to TheSixties of the 20th. (It happened in some other places as well, most notably Belgium UsefulNotes/{{Belgium}} and UsefulNotes/WeimarGermany; in yet other places, it is still alive and kicking. However, this article will focus on the Netherlands, as that is where pillarisation was most pronounced).
10th Jun '14 11:31:19 PM Quag15
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A rather literal translation of the Dutch word ''verzuiling'', pillarisation was a curious social phenomenon that occurred in the Netherlands approximately from the late 19th century to TheSixties of the 20th. (It happened in some other places as well, most notably Belgium and UsefulNotes/WeimarGermany; in yet other places, it is still alive and kicking. However, this article will focus on the Netherlands, as that is where pillarisation was most pronounced).

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A rather literal translation of the Dutch word ''verzuiling'', pillarisation was a curious social phenomenon that occurred in [[UsefulNotes/TheNetherlands the Netherlands Netherlands]] approximately from the late 19th century to TheSixties of the 20th. (It happened in some other places as well, most notably Belgium and UsefulNotes/WeimarGermany; in yet other places, it is still alive and kicking. However, this article will focus on the Netherlands, as that is where pillarisation was most pronounced).
8th May '14 11:29:17 AM LongLiveHumour
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A rather literal translation of the Dutch word ''verzuiling'', pillarisation was a curious social phenomenon that occurred in the Netherlands approximately from the late 19th century to TheSixties of the 20th. (It happened in some other places as well, most notably Belgium and WeimarGermany; in yet other places, it is still alive and kicking. However, this article will focus on the Netherlands, as that is where pillarisation was most pronounced).

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A rather literal translation of the Dutch word ''verzuiling'', pillarisation was a curious social phenomenon that occurred in the Netherlands approximately from the late 19th century to TheSixties of the 20th. (It happened in some other places as well, most notably Belgium and WeimarGermany; UsefulNotes/WeimarGermany; in yet other places, it is still alive and kicking. However, this article will focus on the Netherlands, as that is where pillarisation was most pronounced).



In short, pillarisation, at its worst, took away most choices you had in life, and severely limited your options in the choices it did leave you. On the plus side, it was a way for very different groups to coexist peacefully without one group being worse off than another - and as mentioned, the political leaders got along fine, which was necessary in order to run the country as no one pillar had anything approaching a majority. In less civilised places, these political and religious differences would probably have led to [[TheTroubles violence]].

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In short, pillarisation, at its worst, took away most choices you had in life, and severely limited your options in the choices it did leave you. On the plus side, it was a way for very different groups to coexist peacefully without one group being worse off than another - and as mentioned, the political leaders got along fine, which was necessary in order to run the country as no one pillar had anything approaching a majority. In less civilised places, these political and religious differences would probably have led to [[TheTroubles [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles violence]].
29th Jan '14 12:00:23 AM karstovich2
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Pillarisation gradually [[StealthPun eroded]] during TheSixties. The baby-boom generation, known for their individualism and questioning of authority, didn't like being told how to live their lives by parents, politicians, preachers and teachers. New institutions appeared which had no ties to any pillar, and some of the existing institutions got rid of their ties with one [[ArtifactTitle (without changing their names, though)]]. However, the pillars didn't just vanish overnight. For example, it took until TheNoughties for traditional, pillarisation-era voter preferences to really wear away, leading to a much more fragmented and dynamic political landscape. And some groups, particularly the ''really'' Orthodox Protestants,[[note]]The ones, that is, who didn't get fed up and leave: the Afrikaners of South Africa and Holland Dutch of [[UsefulNotes/{{Michigan}} Western Michigan]] are both largely descended from the ''gereformeerden'' who thought that the Netherlands was a lost cause and decided to start new lives where they could be as strict and isolated as they liked.[[/note]] are still rather isolated and inward-looking today.

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Pillarisation gradually [[StealthPun eroded]] during TheSixties. The baby-boom generation, known for their individualism and questioning of authority, didn't like being told how to live their lives by parents, politicians, preachers and teachers. New institutions appeared which had no ties to any pillar, and some of the existing institutions got rid of their ties with one [[ArtifactTitle (without changing their names, though)]]. However, the pillars didn't just vanish overnight. For example, it took until TheNoughties for traditional, pillarisation-era voter preferences to really wear away, leading to a much more fragmented and dynamic political landscape. And some groups, particularly the ''really'' Orthodox Protestants,[[note]]The ones, that is, who didn't get fed up and leave: the Afrikaners of South Africa UsefulNotes/SouthAfrica and Holland Dutch of [[UsefulNotes/{{Michigan}} Western Michigan]] are both largely descended from the ''gereformeerden'' who thought that the Netherlands was a lost cause and decided to start new lives where they could be as strict and isolated as they liked.[[/note]] are still rather isolated and inward-looking today.
28th Jan '14 11:58:48 PM karstovich2
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* '''Protestants:''' The dominant group before pillarisation, who still had considerable influence but not as much as in the 17th and 18th centuries. They were divided into two groups, considered separate pillars by some: ''hervormden'' and ''gereformeerden''. Both words mean "reformed" and are impossible to tell apart in any language except Dutch. For the purpose of this discussion, "Moderate Protestants" (the ''hervormden'') and "Orthodox Protestants" (the ''gereformeerden'') will do. Both, especially the latter, were viewed by the other pillars as strait-laced Puritans who wanted to impose their idea of morality on the entire country.

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* '''Protestants:''' The dominant group before pillarisation, who still had considerable influence but not as much as in the 17th and 18th centuries. They were divided into two groups, considered separate pillars by some: ''hervormden'' and ''gereformeerden''. Both words mean "reformed" and are impossible to tell apart in any language except Dutch. For the purpose of this discussion, "Moderate Protestants" (the ''hervormden'') and "Orthodox Protestants" (the ''gereformeerden'') will do. Both, especially the latter, were viewed by the other pillars as strait-laced straitlaced Puritans who wanted to impose their idea of morality on the entire country.
1st Aug '13 3:36:55 AM SeptimusHeap
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* '''Liberals:''' [[hottip:Note for readers lacking political education:In European countries, 'liberal' means something entirely different than it does in the US. See the description of 'classical liberalism' in UsefulNotes/PoliticalIdeologies - that's the kind of 'liberals' we're talking about here.]] Not considered a separate pillar by some, due to their small numbers. The Liberals were in many respects the polar opposite of the Socialists: they were more or less aligned with the interests of big business and the upper class, which is why there were hardly any working-class Liberals. Viewed by the other pillars as cynical hedonists who didn't care for morality or religion, but all the more for money.

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* '''Liberals:''' [[hottip:Note [[labelnote:Note for readers lacking political education:In education]]In European countries, 'liberal' means something entirely different than it does in the US. See the description of 'classical liberalism' in UsefulNotes/PoliticalIdeologies - that's the kind of 'liberals' we're talking about here.]] [[/labelnote]] Not considered a separate pillar by some, due to their small numbers. The Liberals were in many respects the polar opposite of the Socialists: they were more or less aligned with the interests of big business and the upper class, which is why there were hardly any working-class Liberals. Viewed by the other pillars as cynical hedonists who didn't care for morality or religion, but all the more for money.



For example, suppose you were a boy born around 1900 to Dutch Catholic parents. You would go to a Catholic primary school, and join a Catholic youth club with which you would go on Catholic summer camps. You would go to a Catholic secondary school, as well; if you wanted to take up a sport - say, football - you would join a Catholic football club [[hottip:*:school sports teams never really caught on in the Netherlands]]. If your parents could afford to send you to university, it would probably be a Catholic one (i.e. Nijmegen or Tilburg), and if it wasn't, you would at least join a Catholic fraternity. Having completed your education and found a job somewhere, you would join a Catholic trade union; if your boss was also a Catholic, he would be a member of a Catholic employers' organisation. You would marry a Catholic girl (there was an old saying, ''twee geloven op één kussen, daar slaapt de duivel tussen'' - 'if two faiths are on one pillow, the Devil sleeps between them', expressing the taboo on inter-pillar marriage amongst the religious pillars), read a Catholic newspaper, listen to a Catholic radio station, vote for a Catholic party, buy from Catholic shopkeepers, and visit your Catholic friends. If you ever did something outrageous like listening to a Socialist radio station, buying from a Liberal shopkeeper or voting for a Protestant party, you faced social stigma and isolation.

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For example, suppose you were a boy born around 1900 to Dutch Catholic parents. You would go to a Catholic primary school, and join a Catholic youth club with which you would go on Catholic summer camps. You would go to a Catholic secondary school, as well; if you wanted to take up a sport - say, football - you would join a Catholic football club [[hottip:*:school [[note]]school sports teams never really caught on in the Netherlands]].Netherlands[[/note]]. If your parents could afford to send you to university, it would probably be a Catholic one (i.e. Nijmegen or Tilburg), and if it wasn't, you would at least join a Catholic fraternity. Having completed your education and found a job somewhere, you would join a Catholic trade union; if your boss was also a Catholic, he would be a member of a Catholic employers' organisation. You would marry a Catholic girl (there was an old saying, ''twee geloven op één kussen, daar slaapt de duivel tussen'' - 'if two faiths are on one pillow, the Devil sleeps between them', expressing the taboo on inter-pillar marriage amongst the religious pillars), read a Catholic newspaper, listen to a Catholic radio station, vote for a Catholic party, buy from Catholic shopkeepers, and visit your Catholic friends. If you ever did something outrageous like listening to a Socialist radio station, buying from a Liberal shopkeeper or voting for a Protestant party, you faced social stigma and isolation.
21st Jul '13 3:14:20 AM OverKiller
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* '''Liberals:''' [[hottip:Note for American readers:In European countries, 'liberal' means something entirely different than it does in the US. See the description of 'classical liberalism' in UsefulNotes/PoliticalIdeologies - that's the kind of 'liberals' we're talking about here.]] Not considered a separate pillar by some, due to their small numbers. The Liberals were in many respects the polar opposite of the Socialists: they were more or less aligned with the interests of big business and the upper class, which is why there were hardly any working-class Liberals. Viewed by the other pillars as cynical hedonists who didn't care for morality or religion, but all the more for money.

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* '''Liberals:''' [[hottip:Note for American readers:In readers lacking political education:In European countries, 'liberal' means something entirely different than it does in the US. See the description of 'classical liberalism' in UsefulNotes/PoliticalIdeologies - that's the kind of 'liberals' we're talking about here.]] Not considered a separate pillar by some, due to their small numbers. The Liberals were in many respects the polar opposite of the Socialists: they were more or less aligned with the interests of big business and the upper class, which is why there were hardly any working-class Liberals. Viewed by the other pillars as cynical hedonists who didn't care for morality or religion, but all the more for money.
29th Apr '13 12:49:50 PM karstovich2
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Pillarisation gradually [[StealthPun eroded]] during TheSixties. The baby-boom generation, known for their individualism and questioning of authority, didn't like being told how to live their lives by parents, politicians, preachers and teachers. New institutions appeared which had no ties to any pillar, and some of the existing institutions got rid of their ties with one [[ArtifactTitle (without changing their names, though)]]. However, the pillars didn't just vanish overnight. For example, it took until TheNoughties for traditional, pillarisation-era voter preferences to really wear away, leading to a much more fragmented and dynamic political landscape. And some groups, particularly the ''really'' Orthodox Protestants, are still rather isolated and inward-looking today.

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Pillarisation gradually [[StealthPun eroded]] during TheSixties. The baby-boom generation, known for their individualism and questioning of authority, didn't like being told how to live their lives by parents, politicians, preachers and teachers. New institutions appeared which had no ties to any pillar, and some of the existing institutions got rid of their ties with one [[ArtifactTitle (without changing their names, though)]]. However, the pillars didn't just vanish overnight. For example, it took until TheNoughties for traditional, pillarisation-era voter preferences to really wear away, leading to a much more fragmented and dynamic political landscape. And some groups, particularly the ''really'' Orthodox Protestants, Protestants,[[note]]The ones, that is, who didn't get fed up and leave: the Afrikaners of South Africa and Holland Dutch of [[UsefulNotes/{{Michigan}} Western Michigan]] are both largely descended from the ''gereformeerden'' who thought that the Netherlands was a lost cause and decided to start new lives where they could be as strict and isolated as they liked.[[/note]] are still rather isolated and inward-looking today.
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