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16th May '16 1:45:11 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Characters in [[TalesOfTheBranionRealm The Granite Shield]] use Welsh patronymics and matronymics, depending on gender but subverted on occasion due to GenderIsNoObject. The protagonists' mother is Llewellynne ap Rowena; one of her sons is named Llewen ap Tuedwur after his legitimate father but the other is a RoyalBastard named Rhys ap Llewellynne ap Owain after his mother and maternal grandfather.

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* Characters in [[TalesOfTheBranionRealm ''[[Literature/TalesOfTheBranionRealm The Granite Shield]] Shield]]'' use Welsh patronymics and matronymics, depending on gender but subverted on occasion due to GenderIsNoObject. The protagonists' mother is Llewellynne ap Rowena; one of her sons is named Llewen ap Tuedwur after his legitimate father but the other is a RoyalBastard named Rhys ap Llewellynne ap Owain after his mother and maternal grandfather.
24th Feb '16 7:51:22 AM SutairuMasuta
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* Balalaika from ''Manga/BlackLagoon'' is a weird example, as she has a surname (Irininskaya) as her patronymic and a patronymic (Pavelovena) as her surname.



* In Russia, the patronymic (отчество ''otchestvo'') is sort of like the middle name; it comes in between the first name (имя ''imya'') and last name (фамилия ''familiya''). The patronymic for a son ends in "-ович" ("-ovitch") and the patronymic for a daughter ends in "-овна" ("-ovna"). Socially, a Russian is generally known by his first name and patronymic; a man who is called "Boris Denisov" in court would be called "Boris Grigorovitch" (or whatever) in ordinary life. It can also be a sign that an English writer didn't do the research if they have a Russian character with a patronymic for his last name (or if he has ''two'' patronymics).

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* In Russia, the patronymic (отчество ''otchestvo'') is sort of like the middle name; it comes in between the first name (имя ''imya'') and last name (фамилия ''familiya''). The patronymic for a son ends in "-ович" ("-ovitch") and the patronymic for a daughter ends in "-овна" ("-ovna"). Socially, a Russian is generally known by his first name and patronymic; a man who is called "Boris Denisov" in court would be called "Boris Grigorovitch" (or whatever) Grigoryevitch" in ordinary life. It can also be a sign that an English writer didn't do the research if they have a Russian character with a patronymic for his last name (or if he has ''two'' patronymics).
20th Feb '16 4:09:20 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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There are only a few cultures on modern Earth that still retain the use of a patronymic (Eastern Europe, Russia, Mongolia, Iceland, Malaysia, and Arabic countries); it just gets awkward as the populations get high, so most of these cultures (with the notable exception of Iceland, which ''does not'' have surnames bar a select few families that have had them since before taking up family names was ''forbidden by law'') cheat by adopting proper surnames or other monikers as well. Not so for alien species in ScienceFiction. Most alien races have OnlyOneName, and among those who don't, it's usually a patronymic. Especially [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy proud warrior races]].

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There are only a few modern cultures on modern Earth that still retain the use of a patronymic (Eastern Europe, Russia, Mongolia, Iceland, Malaysia, Tamil Nadu in India, and Arabic countries); it just gets awkward as the populations get high, so most of these cultures (with the notable exception of Iceland, which ''does not'' have surnames bar a select few families that have had them since before taking up family names was ''forbidden by law'') cheat by adopting proper surnames or other monikers as well. Not so for alien species in ScienceFiction. Most alien races have OnlyOneName, and among those who don't, it's usually a patronymic. Especially [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy proud warrior races]].
20th Dec '15 8:05:44 PM DeisTheAlcano
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* In ''{{Film/Thor}}'' and ''Film/TheAvengers'', Thor addresses [[PhilCoulson Agent Coulson]] as "Son of Coul".
** Thor calls himself either Odinson or Son of Odin.

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* In ''{{Film/Thor}}'' and ''Film/TheAvengers'', ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', Thor addresses [[PhilCoulson Agent Coulson]] Coulson as "Son of Coul".
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Coul" assuming that his surname is used the same in his culture. Thor calls himself either Odinson or Son of Odin.
Odin.
12th Nov '15 6:56:45 PM nombretomado
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* The protagonist of RobinHobb's ''[[Literature/RealmOfTheElderlings The Farseer Trilogy]]'' is named [=FitzChivalry=] Farseer, and thus his ''given'' name is actually a patronymic.

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* The protagonist of RobinHobb's Creator/RobinHobb's ''[[Literature/RealmOfTheElderlings The Farseer Trilogy]]'' is named [=FitzChivalry=] Farseer, and thus his ''given'' name is actually a patronymic.
25th Jul '15 7:07:27 PM Willbyr
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* [[{{Tsundere}} Anna]] [[PlayingWithFire Yurievna Cocolova]] from MahouSenseiNegima (She's usually called by her diminutive: Anya)

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* [[{{Tsundere}} Anna]] [[PlayingWithFire Yurievna Cocolova]] from MahouSenseiNegima ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'' (She's usually called by her diminutive: Anya)



* Chihaya Ayase from ''{{Chihayafuru}}'' and her sister Chitose take a kanji from her mother's name, Chieko.

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* Chihaya Ayase from ''{{Chihayafuru}}'' ''Manga/{{Chihayafuru}}'' and her sister Chitose take a kanji from her mother's name, Chieko.
6th Jul '15 9:14:05 AM Morgenthaler
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* Weird subversion: Thanks to a miscommunication, the Arab protagonist of ''TheThirteenthWarrior'' became known as "Eben" -- a mispronunciation of the Arabic word "ibn", which means "son of".

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* Weird subversion: Thanks to a miscommunication, the Arab protagonist of ''TheThirteenthWarrior'' ''Film/TheThirteenthWarrior'' became known as "Eben" -- a mispronunciation of the Arabic word "ibn", which means "son of".
5th Jul '15 9:17:24 PM nombretomado
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Less often, but still more common than a proper surname, a character will use a locative name (Such as Xev of [=B3K=] from ''{{Lexx}}''). Various Jaffa in ''Series/StargateSG1'' have used either (and the cultural bias is demonstrated by Master Bra'tac, who always referred to General Hammond as "Hammond of Texas"). The [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy proudest of the warrior races]] have ''both''.

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Less often, but still more common than a proper surname, a character will use a locative name (Such as Xev of [=B3K=] from ''{{Lexx}}'').''Series/{{Lexx}}''). Various Jaffa in ''Series/StargateSG1'' have used either (and the cultural bias is demonstrated by Master Bra'tac, who always referred to General Hammond as "Hammond of Texas"). The [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy proudest of the warrior races]] have ''both''.
28th Jun '15 4:24:14 PM nombretomado
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* On the original ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Classic}}'', characters would occasionally use these as well.

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* On the original ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Classic}}'', Galactica|1978}}'', characters would occasionally use these as well.
19th May '15 9:51:10 AM nombretomado
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* Some Gauls in ''{{Asterix}}'', although mostly for humour value. Semiautomatix -> Fulliautomatix, Astronomix -> Asterix, Obeliscoidix -> Obelix. There's also the historical example of Caesar -> Caesarion.

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* Some Gauls in ''{{Asterix}}'', ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}}'', although mostly for humour value. Semiautomatix -> Fulliautomatix, Astronomix -> Asterix, Obeliscoidix -> Obelix. There's also the historical example of Caesar -> Caesarion.
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