History UsefulNotes / NewYorkState

17th Apr '18 7:14:08 PM nombretomado
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* An especially {{egregious}} example: the [[StupidJetpackHitler moon Nazis]] in ''Film/IronSky'' make their first landing on Earth in a marijuana farm in the middle of the wilderness of upstate New York... with the Manhattan skyline in clear view. (The closest one can see Midtown that clearly at night is from [[http://myyonkers.org/2011/05/25/the-best-view-of-new-york-city-in-yonkers/ Yonkers]], which is pretty far from the ''actual'' wilderness.)

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* An especially {{egregious}} JustForFun/{{egregious}} example: the [[StupidJetpackHitler moon Nazis]] in ''Film/IronSky'' make their first landing on Earth in a marijuana farm in the middle of the wilderness of upstate New York... with the Manhattan skyline in clear view. (The closest one can see Midtown that clearly at night is from [[http://myyonkers.org/2011/05/25/the-best-view-of-new-york-city-in-yonkers/ Yonkers]], which is pretty far from the ''actual'' wilderness.)
22nd Feb '18 1:31:08 PM dpisel01
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New York isn't called the Empire ''State'' for nothing. Of the state's estimated 19.5 million people, only about 8.3 million live in UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, leaving over eleven million to be accounted for. The state is well and truly vast, being the fifth-largest by area east of the Mississippi,[[note]]After Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, Georgia, and Illinois; if you exclude water area--which we aren't--New York admittedly drops down to seventh (with Alabama and North Carolina nudging ahead).[[/note]] and the second-largest by area of the original 13 states, behind only the state of Georgia.[[note]]Prior to about 1800, New York was larger than Georgia, but smaller than Virginia. Georgia gained a bunch of territory in about 1800 after some legal disputes were tidied up, and Virginia lost a bunch of territory when West Virginia [[RebelliousRebel seceded from Virginia when Virginia seceded from the Union]] during the Civil War.[[/note]] While the NYC suburbs within the state reach well up the Hudson River and nearly all the way down Long Island, the other 90% of the state (often known as "upstate") is culturally and geographically distinct from the city, and often resents the association. There have been several attempts to split the upstate off into the 51st state, and just as many attempts by downstaters (the city and its suburbs) to do likewise; such attempts usually flounder on who gets to keep the name "New York". Or even where "upstate" begins - people throughout the Hudson Valley especially tend to place the boundary one Thruway exit north of where they live. The state officially treats the counties from Dutchess southwards as part of the Metropolitan Commuter Transportation District; basically upstate begins with the Adirondacks and Catskills.

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New York isn't called the Empire ''State'' for nothing. Of the state's estimated 19.5 million people, only about 8.3 5 million live in UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, leaving over eleven million to be accounted for. The state is well and truly vast, being the fifth-largest by area east of the Mississippi,[[note]]After Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, Georgia, and Illinois; if you exclude water area--which we aren't--New York admittedly drops down to seventh (with Alabama and North Carolina nudging ahead).[[/note]] and the second-largest by area of the original 13 states, behind only the state of Georgia.[[note]]Prior to about 1800, New York was larger than Georgia, but smaller than Virginia. Georgia gained a bunch of territory in about 1800 after some legal disputes were tidied up, and Virginia lost a bunch of territory when West Virginia [[RebelliousRebel seceded from Virginia when Virginia seceded from the Union]] during the Civil War.[[/note]] While the NYC suburbs within the state reach well up the Hudson River and nearly all the way down Long Island, the other 90% of the state (often known as "upstate") is culturally and geographically distinct from the city, and often resents the association. There have been several attempts to split the upstate off into the 51st state, and just as many attempts by downstaters (the city and its suburbs) to do likewise; such attempts usually flounder on who gets to keep the name "New York". Or even where "upstate" begins - people throughout the Hudson Valley especially tend to place the boundary one Thruway exit north of where they live. The state officially treats the counties from Dutchess southwards as part of the Metropolitan Commuter Transportation District; basically upstate begins with the Adirondacks and Catskills.
20th Feb '18 3:01:44 PM dpisel01
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Has five boroughs, eight million people and is the center of the world. Oh, you were talking about that ''other'' New York. Well then...

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Has five boroughs, eight eight-and-a-half million people and is the center of the world. Oh, you were talking about that ''other'' New York. Well then...
16th Jan '18 9:59:24 AM dpisel01
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* The ''Film/SleepawayCamp'' franchise takes place upstate. While some characters have New York City accents, most notably Ronnie, it's very common for downstaters to go upstate for camp, both as campers and counsellors.
2nd Jan '18 6:52:45 PM themisterfree
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Also of note, the state is pretty much controlled in terms of telecom services by Charter/Spectrum, which recently inherited [[Creator/Warner Bros Time Warner]] Cable's system when they acquired them in 2016. TWC/Spectrum has systems in pretty much every major area of the state, including the city; the only exception is Long Island, where Cablevision/Optimum[[note]]which used to be in a lot more places before slimming down to the NYC metro region around 2000; they also similarly divested various cable networks over the years, including Creator/{{AMC}}, Creator/{{Bravo}} {prior to their NetworkDecay}, many of the Creator/{{Fox}} Sports regional networks and several others. They'd also been involved in various non-cable ventures, including owning NYC-area cineplexes and electronic stores {the famous ''Nobody Beats the Wiz''} and owned the famous Madison Square Garden, including its' teams, the associated MSG networks and operation of Radio City Music Hall; the MSG stuff is still owned by Cablevision's founding Dolan family[[/note]] (soon to be rebranded under the name of current parent, French telecom firm Altice) is dominant, and the two fight over portions of the city (except Manhattan, where Optimum is absent) and New Jersey (with Comcast taking the rest of NJ that isn't served by either of them). As a result, they run a system of 24-hour news channels (dubbed ''Spectrum News'') that essentially cover every area of the state, with [=NY1=] being a separate operation. There are some smaller providers here and there (as well as Verizon's [=FiOS=] service), but they're few and far between.

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Also of note, the state is pretty much controlled in terms of telecom services by Charter/Spectrum, which recently inherited [[Creator/Warner Bros [[Creator/WarnerBros Time Warner]] Cable's system when they acquired them in 2016. TWC/Spectrum has systems in pretty much every major area of the state, including the city; the only exception is Long Island, where Cablevision/Optimum[[note]]which used to be in a lot more places before slimming down to the NYC metro region around 2000; they also similarly divested various cable networks over the years, including Creator/{{AMC}}, Creator/{{Bravo}} {prior to their NetworkDecay}, many of the Creator/{{Fox}} Sports regional networks and several others. They'd also been involved in various non-cable ventures, including owning NYC-area cineplexes and electronic stores {the famous ''Nobody Beats the Wiz''} and owned the famous Madison Square Garden, including its' teams, the associated MSG networks and operation of Radio City Music Hall; the MSG stuff is still owned by Cablevision's founding Dolan family[[/note]] (soon to be rebranded under the name of current parent, French telecom firm Altice) is dominant, and the two fight over portions of the city (except Manhattan, where Optimum is absent) and New Jersey (with Comcast taking the rest of NJ that isn't served by either of them). As a result, they run a system of 24-hour news channels (dubbed ''Spectrum News'') that essentially cover every area of the state, with [=NY1=] being a separate operation. There are some smaller providers here and there (as well as Verizon's [=FiOS=] service), but they're few and far between.
2nd Jan '18 6:52:29 PM themisterfree
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Also of note, the state is pretty much controlled in terms of telecom services by Charter/Spectrum, which recently inherited [[Creator/Warner Bros Time Warner]] Cable's system when they acquired them in 2016. TWC/Spectrum has systems in pretty much every major area of the state, including the city; the only exception is Long Island, where Cablevision/Optimum[[note]]which used to be in a lot more places before slimming down to the NYC metro region around 2000; they also similarly divested various cable networks over the years, including Creator/{{AMC}}, Creator/{{Bravo}} {prior to their NetworkDecay}, many of the Creator/{{Fox}} Sports regional networks and several others. They'd also been involved in various non-cable ventures, including owning NYC-area cineplexes and electronic stores {the famous ''Nobody Beats the Wiz''} and owned the famous Madison Square Garden, including its' teams, the associated MSG networks and operation of Radio City Music Hall; the MSG stuff is still owned by Cablevision's founding Dolan family[[/note]] (soon to be rebranded under the name of current parent, French telecom firm Altice) is dominant, and the two fight over portions of the city (except Manhattan, where Optimum is absent) and New Jersey (with Comcast taking the rest of NJ that isn't served by either of them). As a result, they run a system of 24-hour news channels (dubbed ''Spectrum News'') that essentially cover every area of the state, with [=NY1=] being a separate operation. There are some smaller providers here and there (as well as Verizon's [=FiOS=] service), but they're few and far between.
5th Dec '17 9:23:19 AM dpisel01
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* On ''Series/{{Friends}}'', Rachel, Ross and Monica are from Long Island. Chandler grew up in Westchester County [[spoiler:and eventually he and Monica buy a house there and move in with their twin babies.]]

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* On ''Series/{{Friends}}'', Rachel, Ross and Monica are from Long Island. Chandler grew up in Westchester County [[spoiler:and eventually he and Monica buy a house there and move in with their twin babies.]]]] Phoebe originally lived upstate before she moved to the city at age fourteen after her mother's suicide.
29th Oct '17 12:44:29 PM nombretomado
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* '''Catskill Mountains:''' The source of the Delaware River, from which New York City gets its water.[[note]]Also UsefulNotes/{{Philadelphia}}, which is actually ''on'' the freakin' Delaware, but consistently loses to NYC over water rights (it's not a huge deal, since Philly's on the Lower Delaware where there's more water, but the Northeastern PA cities that get their water from near the state line always have Philly's support).[[/note]] Most of the area is kept as a forest preserve/state park, which serves the dual purpose of protecting the city's water supply[[note]]Contrary to popular belief, New York's water is some of the cleanest in the nation. It's only the Hudson River that's toxic.[[/note]] and providing New Yorkers with easily accessible nature. Consequently, the area is home to some of the closest ski resorts, hiking trails, and summer camps to the city -- and unlike [[{{Joisey}} New Jersey]], our campgrounds aren't stalked by [[Franchise/FridayThe13th masked, machete-wielding slashers]]. In the mid-20th century, before {{civil rights|Movement}} and the rise of cheap air travel, this area was home to the BorschtBelt, a collection of summer resorts and campgrounds that welcomed New York's Jews when most other resorts discriminated against them. The stand-up comics who performed here soon became famous for their trademark "Jewish humor".

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* '''Catskill Mountains:''' The source of the Delaware River, from which New York City gets its water.[[note]]Also UsefulNotes/{{Philadelphia}}, which is actually ''on'' the freakin' Delaware, but consistently loses to NYC over water rights (it's not a huge deal, since Philly's on the Lower Delaware where there's more water, but the Northeastern PA cities that get their water from near the state line always have Philly's support).[[/note]] Most of the area is kept as a forest preserve/state park, which serves the dual purpose of protecting the city's water supply[[note]]Contrary to popular belief, New York's water is some of the cleanest in the nation. It's only the Hudson River that's toxic.[[/note]] and providing New Yorkers with easily accessible nature. Consequently, the area is home to some of the closest ski resorts, hiking trails, and summer camps to the city -- and unlike [[{{Joisey}} New Jersey]], our campgrounds aren't stalked by [[Franchise/FridayThe13th masked, machete-wielding slashers]]. In the mid-20th century, before {{civil UsefulNotes/{{civil rights|Movement}} and the rise of cheap air travel, this area was home to the BorschtBelt, a collection of summer resorts and campgrounds that welcomed New York's Jews when most other resorts discriminated against them. The stand-up comics who performed here soon became famous for their trademark "Jewish humor".
27th Oct '17 11:45:15 AM DustSnitch
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->''"From the Empire State Building in UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, to the UsefulNotes/StatueOfLiberty in New York City, to Times Square in New York City, the state of New York is filled with exciting attractions no matter where you look. Tourists arrive by the thousands every day, whether to enjoy a Broadway play in New York's historic New York City, visit the {{Big Apple|sauce}}, or just explore some of the state's quieter wooded areas in Central Park. New York is also home to the nation's financial capital (New York City), news capital (New York City), and fashion capital (New York City). Indeed, New York State is truly [[ComicallyMissingThePoint the greatest city in the world]]."''

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->''"From the Empire State Building in UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, to the UsefulNotes/StatueOfLiberty Art/StatueOfLiberty in New York City, to Times Square in New York City, the state of New York is filled with exciting attractions no matter where you look. Tourists arrive by the thousands every day, whether to enjoy a Broadway play in New York's historic New York City, visit the {{Big Apple|sauce}}, or just explore some of the state's quieter wooded areas in Central Park. New York is also home to the nation's financial capital (New York City), news capital (New York City), and fashion capital (New York City). Indeed, New York State is truly [[ComicallyMissingThePoint the greatest city in the world]]."''
6th Sep '17 7:33:14 PM KrspaceT
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* ''Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians'' has a camp/training ground/sanctuary for Greek Demigods located in Montauk. It gets similar attention, if not as much, as New York City in the series.
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