History UsefulNotes / MisplacedNationalism

5th Sep '17 12:58:51 PM GrammarNavi
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* UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar / War Between the States / War of Northern Aggression / War of Southern Treason breeds an example of this for a nation that no longer even exists. Which of the aforementioned names you choose for the war is enough to speak volumes about your opinion on it, and what part of the country you grew up in. Was the war about ending slavery, or about preserving [[AmericanFederalism states' rights]]? Was UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln a slave-liberating hero respected and admired worldwide, or a tyrant who trampled on the God-given right of a third of his country's citizens to own and use other people as they saw fit? Was General Sherman a war hero who [[IDidWhatIHadToDo did what he had to do]] to pacify Georgia/punish the south for its sins, or should he have been tried for war crimes? Did the Southern states have a legitimate right to secede, or did they betray the US? Was the "Reconstruction" era the final insult by the victorious Union, or a valiant (albeit short-lived) attempt to ensure that the freed slaves didn't get their rights stripped from them by vengeful white ex-Confederates?

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* UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar / War Between the States / War of Northern Aggression / War of Southern Treason breeds an example of this for a nation that no longer even exists. Which of the aforementioned names you choose for the war is enough to speak volumes about your opinion on it, and what part of the country you grew up in. Was the war about ending slavery, or about preserving [[AmericanFederalism [[UsefulNotes/AmericanFederalism states' rights]]? Was UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln a slave-liberating hero respected and admired worldwide, or a tyrant who trampled on the God-given right of a third of his country's citizens to own and use other people as they saw fit? Was General Sherman a war hero who [[IDidWhatIHadToDo did what he had to do]] to pacify Georgia/punish the south for its sins, or should he have been tried for war crimes? Did the Southern states have a legitimate right to secede, or did they betray the US? Was the "Reconstruction" era the final insult by the victorious Union, or a valiant (albeit short-lived) attempt to ensure that the freed slaves didn't get their rights stripped from them by vengeful white ex-Confederates?
22nd Aug '17 2:24:38 PM Jhonny
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## Do not, under any circumstances, call Turkish coffee "Turkish coffee" unless it is written that way on the menu. If there is no menu, play it safe and call it "Greek coffee" in a Greek restaurant, "Arabic coffee" in an Arabic one,[[note]]Admittedly, they usually won't be ''too'' offended if you say "Turkish", unless the Turks have insulted their country of origin recently[[/note]] "Armenian coffee" in an Armenian one [[note]](in the actual country it is simply called coffee, or "soorj" in the native language, as if no other type exists)[[/note]], "Bosnian coffee" in a Bosnian one, "Cypriot coffee" in Cyprus[[note]]unless you're in an internationally unrecognized Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus[[/note]], and "Turkish coffee" ''if and only if'' you are actually in a Turkish restaurant/cafe.[[note]]You could get away with it in restaurants/cafes run by some of the Balkan countries, e.g. Serbian, Macedonian, Montenegrin, Romanian, Bulgarian, etc., but usually they'd just say "black coffee."[[/note]]

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## Do not, under any circumstances, call Turkish coffee "Turkish coffee" unless it is written that way on the menu. If there is no menu, play it safe and call it "Greek coffee" in a Greek restaurant, "Arabic coffee" in an Arabic one,[[note]]Admittedly, they usually won't be ''too'' offended if you say "Turkish", unless the Turks have insulted their country of origin recently[[/note]] "Armenian coffee" in an Armenian one [[note]](in the actual country it is simply called coffee, or "soorj" in the native language, as if no other type exists)[[/note]], "Bosnian coffee" in a Bosnian one, "Cypriot coffee" in Cyprus[[note]]unless you're in an the internationally unrecognized (except by Turkey) Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus[[/note]], and "Turkish coffee" ''if and only if'' you are actually in a Turkish restaurant/cafe.[[note]]You could get away with it in restaurants/cafes run by some of the Balkan countries, e.g. Serbian, Macedonian, Montenegrin, Romanian, Bulgarian, etc., but usually they'd just say "black coffee."[[/note]]
22nd Aug '17 2:21:51 PM Jhonny
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* Armenians and Azeris are just as bad of a mix, if not even worse. Though, like the above, genocide accusations are sometimes flung back and forth (but not quite as commonly), the main cause of contention is the disputed territory of UsefulNotes/NagornoKarabakh. Over two decades of a ceasefire have provided a long time for the animosity to build. They're even banned to play official football (yes, yes, you call it "soccer") matches against each other - for fear of inflaming the conflict.

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* Armenians and Azeris are just as bad of a mix, if not even worse. Though, like the above, genocide accusations are sometimes flung back and forth (but not quite as commonly), the main cause of contention is the disputed territory of UsefulNotes/NagornoKarabakh. Over two decades of a ceasefire have provided a long time for the animosity to build. They're even banned to play official association football (yes, yes, you call it "soccer") matches against each other - for fear of inflaming the conflict.
21st Aug '17 12:40:40 PM benda
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## Do not, under any circumstances, call Turkish coffee "Turkish coffee" unless it is written that way on the menu. If there is no menu, play it safe and call it "Greek coffee" in a Greek restaurant, "Arabic coffee" in an Arabic one,[[note]]Admittedly, they usually won't be ''too'' offended if you say "Turkish", unless the Turks have insulted their country of origin recently[[/note]] "Armenian coffee" in an Armenian one [[note]](in the actual country it is simply called coffee, or "soorj" in the native language, as if no other type exists)[[/note]], "Bosnian coffee" in a Bosnian one, and "Turkish coffee" ''if and only if'' you are actually in a Turkish restaurant/cafe.[[note]]You could get away with it in restaurants/cafes run by some of the Balkan countries, e.g. Serbian, Macedonian, Montenegrin, Romanian, Bulgarian, etc., but usually they'd just say "black coffee."[[/note]]

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## Do not, under any circumstances, call Turkish coffee "Turkish coffee" unless it is written that way on the menu. If there is no menu, play it safe and call it "Greek coffee" in a Greek restaurant, "Arabic coffee" in an Arabic one,[[note]]Admittedly, they usually won't be ''too'' offended if you say "Turkish", unless the Turks have insulted their country of origin recently[[/note]] "Armenian coffee" in an Armenian one [[note]](in the actual country it is simply called coffee, or "soorj" in the native language, as if no other type exists)[[/note]], "Bosnian coffee" in a Bosnian one, "Cypriot coffee" in Cyprus[[note]]unless you're in an internationally unrecognized Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus[[/note]], and "Turkish coffee" ''if and only if'' you are actually in a Turkish restaurant/cafe.[[note]]You could get away with it in restaurants/cafes run by some of the Balkan countries, e.g. Serbian, Macedonian, Montenegrin, Romanian, Bulgarian, etc., but usually they'd just say "black coffee."[[/note]]
21st Aug '17 12:34:02 PM benda
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* Armenians and Azeris are just as bad of a mix, if not even worse. Though, like the above, genocide accusations are sometimes flung back and forth (but not quite as commonly), the main cause of contention is the disputed territory of UsefulNotes/NagornoKarabakh. Over two decades of a ceasefire have provided a long time for the animosity to build.

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* Armenians and Azeris are just as bad of a mix, if not even worse. Though, like the above, genocide accusations are sometimes flung back and forth (but not quite as commonly), the main cause of contention is the disputed territory of UsefulNotes/NagornoKarabakh. Over two decades of a ceasefire have provided a long time for the animosity to build. They're even banned to play official football (yes, yes, you call it "soccer") matches against each other - for fear of inflaming the conflict.
21st Aug '17 12:25:04 PM benda
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* Calling ''any'' non-Arab Muslim an Arab or implying that they should know Arabic will result in angry lectures. Predictably, the same goes for assuming that all Arabs are Muslim, though you're much less likely to meet a non-Muslim Arab (if you do, chances are he's Orthodox Christian).

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* Calling ''any'' non-Arab Muslim an Arab or implying that they should know Arabic will result in angry lectures. Predictably, the same goes for assuming that all Arabs are Muslim, though you're much less likely to meet a non-Muslim Arab (if you do, chances are he's Orthodox Eastern Christian).
21st Aug '17 12:23:25 PM benda
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* Calling ''any'' non-Arab Muslim an Arab or implying that they should know Arabic will result in angry lectures. Predictably, the same goes for assuming that all Arabs are Muslim.

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* Calling ''any'' non-Arab Muslim an Arab or implying that they should know Arabic will result in angry lectures. Predictably, the same goes for assuming that all Arabs are Muslim.Muslim, though you're much less likely to meet a non-Muslim Arab (if you do, chances are he's Orthodox Christian).
21st Aug '17 12:21:09 PM benda
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** Although every practicing Muslim does know ''some'' Arabic, as that's the language of Muslim daily prayers. However, not even many Arabs can rear classical Arabic Qur'an was originally written in.

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** Although every practicing Muslim does know ''some'' Arabic, as that's the language of Muslim daily prayers. However, not even many Arabs can rear classical read ''classical'' Arabic Qur'an was originally written in.
21st Aug '17 12:20:25 PM benda
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** Although every practicing Muslim does know ''some'' Arabic, as that's the language of Muslim daily prayers. However, not even many Arabs can rear classical Arabic Qur'an was originally written in.
21st Aug '17 12:10:22 PM benda
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** And if you happen to mention something genuinely positive or sympathetic about Russian Empire and/or Soviet Union, you'd better not equate them with Russia and Russians only, ignoring all the other nations (especially if the thing in question wasn't confined to the territory of present-day Russia).

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** And if you happen to mention something genuinely positive or sympathetic about Russian Empire and/or Soviet Union, you'd better not equate them with Russia and Russians only, ignoring all the other nations (especially if the thing in question wasn't confined to the territory of present-day Russia). [[DoubleStandard Of course, blaming all the drawbacks of USSR/Russian Empire on Russians alone is another matter]].
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