History UsefulNotes / MisplacedNationalism

16th Jan '17 11:21:43 AM Jhonny
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* Does the Quesadillas[[hottip:*:a tortilla filled with cheese and usually with other ingredients such as meat, ham, or whatever you like]] [[SeriousBusiness have cheese or not?]] For the people of Central Mexico (Estado de México, Mexico City and Morelos), that dish does not need to contain cheese, and it's just a tortilla with any kind of filling within. Those from outside this area (and especially in northern Mexico) will say that Quesadillas will always have cheese, and anyone suggesting otherwise must get out of their sight immediately.

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* Does the Quesadillas[[hottip:*:a Quesadilla[[hottip:*:a tortilla filled with cheese and usually with other ingredients such as meat, ham, or whatever you like]] [[SeriousBusiness have cheese or not?]] For the people of Central Mexico (Estado de México, Mexico City and Morelos), that dish does not need to contain cheese, and it's just a tortilla with any kind of filling within. Those from outside this area (and especially in northern Mexico) will say that Quesadillas will always have cheese, and anyone suggesting otherwise must get out of their sight immediately.
15th Jan '17 9:21:37 PM Tovarishch
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* Does Quesadillas[[hottip:*:a tortilla filled with cheese and usually with other ingredients such as meat, ham, or whatever you like]] [[SeriousBusiness have cheese or not?]] For the people of Central Mexico (Estado de México, Mexico City and Morelos), that dish does not need to contain cheese, and it's just a tortilla with any kind of filling within. Those from outside this area (and especially in northern Mexico) will say that Quesadillas will always have cheese, and anyone suggesting otherwise must get out of their sight immediately.
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* Does the Quesadillas[[hottip:*:a tortilla filled with cheese and usually with other ingredients such as meat, ham, or whatever you like]] [[SeriousBusiness have cheese or not?]] For the people of Central Mexico (Estado de México, Mexico City and Morelos), that dish does not need to contain cheese, and it's just a tortilla with any kind of filling within. Those from outside this area (and especially in northern Mexico) will say that Quesadillas will always have cheese, and anyone suggesting otherwise must get out of their sight immediately.
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* Do not ever mention the Rio San Juan (a border river that due to some 19th century quirk belongs entirely to Nicaragua) when either Nicaraguans or Costa Ricans could overhear it. Most citizens of either country have never even ''been'' to the river (which is pretty but relatively remote and sparsely populated), but there is a lot of nationalistic bickering over it and both countries have sued each other in international courts repeatedly, especially during the Ortega (Nicaragua) and Chinchilla (Costa Rica) administrations

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* Do not ever mention the Rio San Juan (a border river that due to some 19th century quirk belongs entirely to Nicaragua) when either Nicaraguans or Costa Ricans could overhear it. Most citizens of either country have never even ''been'' to the river (which is pretty but relatively remote and sparsely populated), but there is a lot of nationalistic bickering over it and both countries have sued each other in international courts repeatedly, especially during the Ortega (Nicaragua) and Chinchilla (Costa Rica) administrations
administrations.
15th Jan '17 9:18:16 PM Tovarishch
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* Mexico also has a lot of regional differences between the 32 states that compose the country, and rivalries between them (even sometimes between cities) often flare up. Especially vicious are those fights between Mexico City and everyone else.
* Does Quesadillas[[hottip:*:a tortilla filled with cheese and usually with other ingredients such as meat, ham, or whatever you like]] [[SeriousBusiness have cheese or not?]] For the people of Central Mexico (Estado de México, Mexico City and Morelos), that dish does not need to contain cheese, and it's just a tortilla with any kind of filling within. Those from outside this area (and especially in northern Mexico) will say that Quesadillas will always have cheese, and anyone suggesting otherwise must get out of their sight immediately.
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13th Jan '17 7:42:52 AM crazysamaritan
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* Palestinians (or Arabs)/Pro-Palestinian Westerners and Israelis/Pro-Israel Westerners are, contrary to popular belief, not akin to water and oil. They are the ''[[NoExceptYes matter and antimatter]]'' of animosity.

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* Palestinians (or Arabs)/Pro-Palestinian Westerners and Israelis/Pro-Israel Westerners are, contrary to popular belief, not akin to water and oil. They are the ''[[NoExceptYes matter ''matter and antimatter]]'' antimatter'' of animosity.
1st Jan '17 5:45:01 PM Nonnana
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* See above where Americans get angry if Europeans don't know that America isn't one homogenous country? Europeans get just as angry when outsiders assume homogeneity in Europe.

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* See above where Americans get angry if Europeans don't know that America isn't one homogenous country? Europeans get just as angry when outsiders assume homogeneity in Europe is one country like America is, or generally homogenity of Europe.
2nd Dec '16 1:31:35 PM lucy24
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* Calling ''any'' non-Arab Muslim an Arab or implying that they should know Arabic will result in angry lectures.

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* Calling ''any'' non-Arab Muslim an Arab or implying that they should know Arabic will result in angry lectures. Predictably, the same goes for assuming that all Arabs are Muslim.
16th Nov '16 1:02:19 PM MarkLungo
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* Similar to the usage of "Yankee" above, there can often be issues over the term "American" itself and who exactly can use the term. Citizens of the United States will often maintain that only citizens of the United States can be termed "Americans" because their country is ''called'' the United States of ''America''; which in turn draws the ire of some from Southern and Latin America who view people from the US as haughty by using the phrase. Since, according to them, being simply located in the continent of North or South America qualifies them to identify as American. Americans tend to be rather disgruntled by this, as they see it as Hispanics/Latinos/etc as trying to 'usurp' or 'repudiate' their cultural identity, and will often point out the absurdity and unwieldiness of other monikers: e.g., "What are we suppose to call ourselves? United Statians?" This isn't helped by the fact that in Spanish, "United Statian" actually sounds pretty good (as ''estadounidense''--try saying it, it's fun) and is in common usage; many Latin Americans simply don't get that "United Statian" (like any of the other proffered alternatives) sounds like nails on a chalkboard to an English-speaker, and could just as easily apply to citizens of Estados Unidos Mexicanos (The United Mexican States). However, another term, "Usonian", used by Frank Lloyd Wright as the name of his style of (then revolutionary) single-story house (which weirdly was a [[ItWillNeverCatchOn flop]] at the time), is used sometimes to refer to people from the United States, and in fact, the demonym for someone from the United States in {{Esperanto}} is "Usono".

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* Similar to the usage of "Yankee" above, there can often be issues over the term "American" itself and who exactly can use the term. Citizens of the United States will often maintain that only citizens of the United States can be termed "Americans" because their country is ''called'' the United States of ''America''; which in turn draws the ire of some from Southern and Latin America who view people from the US as haughty by using the phrase. Since, according to them, being simply located in the continent of North or South America qualifies them to identify as American. Americans tend to be rather disgruntled by this, as they see it as Hispanics/Latinos/etc as trying to 'usurp' or 'repudiate' their cultural identity, and will often point out the absurdity and unwieldiness of other monikers: e.g., "What are we suppose to call ourselves? United Statians?" This isn't helped by the fact that in Spanish, "United Statian" actually sounds pretty good (as ''estadounidense''--try saying it, it's fun) and is in common usage; many Latin Americans simply don't get that "United Statian" (like any of the other proffered alternatives) sounds like nails on a chalkboard to an English-speaker, and could just as easily apply to citizens of Estados Unidos Mexicanos (The United Mexican States). However, another term, "Usonian", used by Frank Lloyd Wright as the name of his style of (then revolutionary) single-story house (which weirdly was a [[ItWillNeverCatchOn flop]] at the time), is used sometimes to refer to people from the United States, and States; in fact, the demonym for someone from the United States in {{Esperanto}} [[UsefulNotes/EsperantoTheUniversalLanguage Esperanto]] is "Usono".



*** Prior to the Civil War, the state identity actually often superseded the "US-ian" identity, as evidenced by the phrase ''these'' United States ''are'', instead of the post 1865 ''The'' United States ''is''. The best known example of state first US second is Robert E Lee, who justified rejecting command of the Union (north) army despite being personally opposed to secession with the fact that he was from Virginia and Virginia had seceded and [[MyCountryRightOrWrong he had to do what his state demanded]].

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*** Prior to the Civil War, UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar, the state identity actually often superseded the "US-ian" identity, as evidenced by the phrase ''these'' United States ''are'', instead of the post 1865 ''The'' United States ''is''. The best known example of state first US second is Robert E Lee, who justified rejecting command of the Union (north) army despite being personally opposed to secession with the fact that he was from Virginia and Virginia had seceded and [[MyCountryRightOrWrong he had to do what his state demanded]].
16th Oct '16 11:11:36 PM DavidDelony
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* Similar to Europe, right-wing Americans look at Canada as a "socialist nightmare" for its famous national healthcare program and progressive social policies. This naturally irritates most Canadians, while left-leaning Americans admire Canada for the same reasons right-wingers loathe it.

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* Similar to Europe, right-wing Americans look at Canada as a "socialist nightmare" for its famous national healthcare program and progressive social policies. This naturally irritates most Canadians, who are just of proud of their single-payer healthcare systems as Brits are of the NHS, while left-leaning Americans admire Canada for the same reasons right-wingers loathe it.
8th Oct '16 8:42:44 PM Mullon
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* Website/FourChan's /int/ (international) board examplifies this trope to the Extreme. Being an Website/ImageBoard, not surprising. Krautchan's /int/ (where the concept came) is relatively calm and tame though.

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* Website/FourChan's /int/ (international) board examplifies this trope to the Extreme. Being an Website/ImageBoard, ImageBoard, not surprising. Krautchan's /int/ (where the concept came) is relatively calm and tame though.
8th Oct '16 6:40:45 PM Mullon
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* 4chan's /int/ (international) board examplifies this trope to the Extreme. Being an ImageBoard, not surprising. Krautchan's /int/ (Where the concept came) is relatively calm and tame though.

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* 4chan's Website/FourChan's /int/ (international) board examplifies this trope to the Extreme. Being an ImageBoard, Website/ImageBoard, not surprising. Krautchan's /int/ (Where (where the concept came) is relatively calm and tame though.
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