History UsefulNotes / MisplacedNationalism

10th Dec '17 8:41:13 AM Sakubara
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*** Plus is changing the course of human history forever by making them the first target for a nuclear bomb not enough "karma"?!!
9th Dec '17 4:09:24 PM Sakubara
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*** And don't even get us started on the countries Japan actually did conquer!
29th Nov '17 6:16:37 PM DavidDelony
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** A near-identical dynamic exists in Illinois between UsefulNotes/{{Chicago}}land and the rest of the state, and in Georgia between UsefulNotes/{{Atlanta}} and the rest of the state. And a similar rift has opened up in Colorado, [[http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20130607/WINDSORBEACON01/306070016/Rural-Colorado-counties-pursue-split-from-state over the issues of gun control and environmental regulation]]. This also applies to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/51st_state#From_other_states about 13]] other states.

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** A near-identical dynamic exists in Illinois between UsefulNotes/{{Chicago}}land and the rest of the state, and in Georgia between UsefulNotes/{{Atlanta}} UsefulNotes/{{Atlanta}}. And between UsefulNotes/LosAngeles and UsefulNotes/SanFrancisco and the rest of the state.California. And a similar rift has opened up in Colorado, [[http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20130607/WINDSORBEACON01/306070016/Rural-Colorado-counties-pursue-split-from-state over the issues of gun control and environmental regulation]]. This also applies to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/51st_state#From_other_states about 13]] other states. In general, "blue states" tend to be dominated by liberal, cosmopolitan urban areas surrounded by vast swathes of conservative rural areas.
29th Nov '17 6:12:28 PM DavidDelony
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* Similar to Europe, right-wing Americans look at Canada as a "socialist nightmare" for its famous national healthcare program and progressive social policies. This naturally irritates most Canadians, who are just of proud of their single-payer healthcare systems as Brits are of the NHS, while left-leaning Americans admire Canada for the same reasons right-wingers loathe it, with many of them threatening to move there whenever a Republican is elected president. Canadians will also point to Stephen Harper's nearly decade-long tenure as prime minister as proof that Canada isn't nearly as left-wing as its American admirers and detractors imagine it to be.

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* Similar to Europe, right-wing Americans look at Canada as a "socialist nightmare" for its famous national healthcare program and progressive social policies. This naturally irritates most Canadians, who are just of proud of their multiculturalism and single-payer healthcare systems as Brits are of the NHS, while left-leaning Americans admire Canada for the same reasons right-wingers loathe it, with many of them threatening to move there whenever a Republican is elected president. Canadians will also point to Stephen Harper's nearly decade-long tenure as prime minister as proof that Canada isn't nearly as left-wing as its American admirers and detractors imagine it to be.
25th Nov '17 2:35:19 PM AgProv
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** The perception by Scottish and Welsh people that they are run as colonies by a distant and uncaring administration in London is seeping into the north of England for much the same reasons; there is discontent in the North that whoever they vote for, they are outnumbered by a far more populous South and South-East that effectively dictates by weight of numbers who runs the country. Many northern people will snarkily say that at least Scotland and Wales now have a measure of local autonomy - and we ''don't''. this feeling of alientation and a suspicion that Britain is run purely for the benefit of London and the South-East is thought to have contributed to the North voting for Brexit - just to stick it to London and its (perceived) out-of-touch insular intelligensia, in a big way.



** When talking with Poles, you should steer clear of any WW II - related topics, unless you really want to start a flame war of similar magnitude. Especially danegerous topics includes:
*** France and England CavalryRefusal in 1939 - though in reallity there is much more to that, many Poles are still bitter about being "betrayed" by their allies.

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** When talking with Poles, you should steer clear of any WW II - related topics, unless you really want to start a flame war of similar magnitude. Especially danegerous dangerous topics includes:
*** France and England CavalryRefusal in 1939 - though in reallity reality there is much more to that, many Poles are still bitter about being "betrayed" by their allies.



*** Yalta Conference... remeber that "betrayed" part? Despite the fact that it was impossible for Poland to ended up on the other side of the Iron Curtain (bar Western Allies starting a nuclear war with Soviet Union), many Poles still consider themselves being "sold" at Yalta.

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*** Yalta Conference... remeber remember that "betrayed" part? Despite the fact that it was impossible for Poland to ended up on the other side of the Iron Curtain (bar Western Allies starting a nuclear war with Soviet Union), many Poles still consider themselves being "sold" at Yalta.



* Romanians are generally not very nationalistic and they deride and make fun of themselves most of the time, until you bring up Hungary, Russia, the Ottomans and Tatars. If a foreign power has ruled over romanian lands, romanians hate them. Except [[{{ForeignCultureFetish}} Romans.]]

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* Romanians are generally not very nationalistic and they deride and make fun of themselves most of the time, until you bring up Hungary, Russia, the Ottomans and Tatars. If a foreign power has ruled over romanian Romanian lands, romanians Romanians hate them. Except [[{{ForeignCultureFetish}} Romans.]]
13th Nov '17 11:51:57 AM Surenity
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** Armenians and Georgians are frenemies at best, despite both being Christian countries that have more similarities than differences, and can often be seen in flame wars on the internet. This is mostly due to Russia complicating things (Georgia and Russia are bitter enemies, while Armenia is Russia's ally), as well as some territorial squabbles the countries have had in the past. Yes, pretty much ''everyone'' in the Caucasus region hates each other.
8th Nov '17 11:10:15 AM benda
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** This has gotten to the point that there are popular Nazi marches in various areas and local governments then stop Russophiles from holding marches of Holocaust survivors as a response.

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** This has gotten to the point that in some Baltic countries there are popular Nazi marches in various areas and local governments then stop Russophiles from holding marches of Holocaust survivors as a response.
7th Nov '17 11:24:07 PM Paradoxic
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* UsefulNotes/{{Hong Kong}}ers (to a lesser extent, Macauans) ''really'' don't like being lumped in with China (in the sense of the mainland); UsefulNotes/{{Taiwan}}ese as well. Both countries, while freely admitting that they are ''culturally'' Chinese (it's hard to deny when most Taiwanese speak Mandarin and most Hong Kongers speak Cantonese), they emphasise their cultural differences - preservation of the old, "true" Chinese culture untainted by the Cultural Revolution. With respect to other issues, they generally regard the mainlanders as arrogant, uncouth and uncultured upstarts who would understand neither culture nor modernity if they hit them in the face. Also, don't even start on the reunification vs independence issue in Taiwan...

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* UsefulNotes/{{Hong Kong}}ers Kong}}ers, UsefulNotes/{{Taiwan}}ese and (to a lesser extent, Macauans) extent) Macauans ''really'' don't like hate being lumped in with China (in the sense of the mainland); UsefulNotes/{{Taiwan}}ese as well. Both countries, while Mainland Chinese. While freely admitting that they are ''culturally'' Chinese (it's hard to deny when most Taiwanese speak Mandarin and most Hong Kongers speak Cantonese), they emphasise their cultural differences - preservation of the old, "true" Chinese culture untainted by the Cultural Revolution. With respect to other issues, they generally regard the mainlanders Mainlanders as arrogant, uncouth and uncultured upstarts who would understand neither culture nor modernity if they it hit them in the face. Also, don't even start on the reunification vs independence issue in Taiwan...
** Another good way to spark a debate in Chinese forums is to ask whether Simplified or Traditional Chinese is the better writing method of the two.
30th Oct '17 1:14:43 AM DoctorNemesis
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** South Australia vs. Victoria, though this is [[UnknownRival fairly one-sided]]. Whenever something does come up, it's the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Australia%E2%80%93Victoria_border_dispute border issue]]. Some South Australians argue that Victoria has taken too much land and that the border should be at 141E, while some Victorians argue that they haven't gone far enough and that the border should be fixed at the western end of the Murray River.

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** South Australia vs. Victoria, though this is [[UnknownRival fairly one-sided]]. Whenever something does come up, it's the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Australia%E2%80%93Victoria_border_dispute border issue]]. Some South Australians argue that Victoria has taken too much land and that the border should be at 141E, while some Victorians argue that they haven't gone far enough and that the border should be fixed at the western end of the Murray River. Many South Aussies will also never forgive Victoria for swiping the Australian Grand Prix away from them.
8th Oct '17 4:32:11 PM Paradoxic
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* UsefulNotes/{{Hong Kong}}ers (to a lesser extent, Macauans) ''really'' don't like being lumped in with China (in the sense of the mainland); UsefulNotes/{{Taiwan}}ese as well. Both countries, while freely admitting that they are ''culturally'' Chinese (it's hard to deny when most Taiwanese speak Mandarin and most Hong Kongers speak Cantonese), they emphasize their preservation of the old, "true" Chinese culture in that respect. As respects other issues, they generally regard the mainlanders as arrogant but uncouth upstarts who would understand neither culture nor modernity if they hit them in the face. Also, don't even start on the reunification vs independence issue in Taiwan...

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* UsefulNotes/{{Hong Kong}}ers (to a lesser extent, Macauans) ''really'' don't like being lumped in with China (in the sense of the mainland); UsefulNotes/{{Taiwan}}ese as well. Both countries, while freely admitting that they are ''culturally'' Chinese (it's hard to deny when most Taiwanese speak Mandarin and most Hong Kongers speak Cantonese), they emphasize emphasise their cultural differences - preservation of the old, "true" Chinese culture in that respect. As respects untainted by the Cultural Revolution. With respect to other issues, they generally regard the mainlanders as arrogant but arrogant, uncouth and uncultured upstarts who would understand neither culture nor modernity if they hit them in the face. Also, don't even start on the reunification vs independence issue in Taiwan...
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