History UsefulNotes / Michigan

10th Dec '15 8:49:16 AM HeraldAlberich
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* The two largest Universities in the state are the UsefulNotes/UniversityOfMichigan in Ann Arbor and Michigan State University (in East Lansing, which is immediately [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin east of Lansing]]). The two Universities are leading National Research Institutions and they share an intense, in-state rivalry with each other in sports...and everything else.[[note]]Academically, consensus holds that MSU's best programs are better than their equivalents at Michigan, but that Michigan is better on average--if only because Michigan is often the "safety school" for East Coasters who ''just'' missed the IvyLeague. MSU, on the other hand--and in particular its best programs--is a highly-desired target school for less well-off kids from Indiana, Illinois, and Wisconsin. Additionally, people in the know note the remarkable number of University of Chicago grads who go on to become MSU profs and and the number of MSU grads who go on to study at [[=UChicago=]]; they tend think of MSU as a sort of public-university outpost of Chicago. MSU is almost universally agreed, however to have a '''much''' better men's basketball program thanks to their coach Tom Izzo, widely agreed to be one of the best college basketball coaches in the nation, and somewhat infamous for his willingness to make fun of himself[[/note]] How [[FriendlyEnemy friendly]] this rivalry gets depends on who you ask; since many Michiganders have relatives who went to both, there's often a desire to keep the peace, but others regard the other school as The Enemy (or at U of M, The Second Enemy, The First Enemy being Ohio State), with whom there is no reconciliation. If Michigan State is playing against Ohio State, U of M will be angry no matter the result. U of M feels they're the only school allowed to defeat Michigan State, but they also don't want MSU to rob them of the opportunity to conquer the Buckeyes. That said, if Michigan's luck has been lousy enough to rule out a Wolverines-Buckeyes game, then most U of M fans will (grudgingly) root for the Michigan State Spartans. The rivalry against Ohio State stems all the way back to Michigan's birth as a state, during which the then-Michigan Territory declared war on Ohio over who the city of [[UsefulNotes/ToledoOhio Toledo]] belonged to. This border dispute awarded the Toledo Strip to Ohio and gave Michigan the Upper Peninsula as a "consolation". Some Michiganders remain bitter to this day about the whole debacle even though Wisconsin arguably was the state hurt the most by the "Toledo War" and in the long run Michigan actually made out quite well with the Upper Peninsula's abundant natural resources.[[note]]Not that Ohio has forgotten the grudge; every true Ohioan knows a certain ditty, to the tune of "The Old Gray Mare," that goes, ''We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan... 'cause we're from O-hi-o.''[[/note]]
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* The two largest Universities in the state are the UsefulNotes/UniversityOfMichigan in Ann Arbor and Michigan State University (in East Lansing, which is immediately [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin east of Lansing]]). The two Universities are leading National Research Institutions and they share an intense, in-state rivalry with each other in sports...and sports--and everything else.[[note]]Academically, consensus holds that MSU's best programs are better than their equivalents at Michigan, but that Michigan is better on average--if only because Michigan is often the "safety school" for East Coasters who ''just'' missed the IvyLeague.UsefulNotes/IvyLeague. MSU, on the other hand--and in particular its best programs--is a highly-desired target school for less well-off kids from Indiana, Illinois, and Wisconsin. Additionally, people in the know note the remarkable number of University of Chicago grads who go on to become MSU profs and and the number of MSU grads who go on to study at [[=UChicago=]]; they tend think of MSU as a sort of public-university outpost of Chicago. MSU is almost universally agreed, however to have a '''much''' better men's basketball program thanks to their coach Tom Izzo, widely agreed to be one of the best college basketball coaches in the nation, and somewhat infamous for his willingness to make fun of himself[[/note]] How [[FriendlyEnemy friendly]] this rivalry gets depends on who you ask; since many Michiganders have relatives who went to both, there's often a desire to keep the peace, but others regard the other school as The Enemy (or at U of M, The Second Enemy, The First Enemy being Ohio State), with whom there is no reconciliation. If Michigan State is playing against Ohio State, U of M will be angry no matter the result. U of M feels they're the only school allowed to defeat Michigan State, but they also don't want MSU to rob them of the opportunity to conquer the Buckeyes. That said, if Michigan's luck has been lousy enough to rule out a Wolverines-Buckeyes game, then most U of M fans will (grudgingly) root for the Michigan State Spartans. The rivalry against Ohio State stems all the way back to Michigan's birth as a state, during which the then-Michigan Territory declared war on Ohio over who the city of [[UsefulNotes/ToledoOhio Toledo]] belonged to. This border dispute awarded the Toledo Strip to Ohio and gave Michigan the Upper Peninsula as a "consolation". Some Michiganders remain bitter to this day about the whole debacle even though Wisconsin arguably was the state hurt the most by the "Toledo War" and in the long run Michigan actually made out quite well with the Upper Peninsula's abundant natural resources.[[note]]Not that Ohio has forgotten the grudge; every true Ohioan knows a certain ditty, to the tune of "The Old Gray Mare," that goes, ''We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan... 'cause we're from O-hi-o.''[[/note]]
20th Nov '15 9:10:26 PM karstovich2
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* West Michigan: Often called the West Coast, since it lies on the shore of Lake Michigan. Centered on Grand Rapids, the state's second-largest city, which was historically a major base for the furniture industry (so much so that even today it's sometimes called Furniture City); today, the most famous company in the city is "[[InsistentTerminology multi-level marketing]]" [[WeCare consumer goods company]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Amway]], although office-furniture giant Steelcase is based in the area and the legendary Herman Miller company (of Aeron Chair fame) is based in nearby Zeeland. Also home to large numbers of stern Dutch Calvinists (to the point that there's a town of Holland just west of Grand Rapids with an annual tulip festival, wooden shoes, and a Dutch Reformed seminary/college),[[note]]And now you know why there's FreestateAmsterdam: the stern Christians went off to Michigan, and sadly that's not just a joke, it's seriously true.[[/note]] with a predictable effect on the region's politics: although the city of Grand Rapids itself is quite liberal (having been abandoned by the Dutch and taken over by Catholic Italians, Poles, and Latinos), the region as a whole is considered a very safe seat for the Republicans; it was securely UsefulNotes/GeraldFord's seat for years, and today Libertarian/Tea Party darling Justin Amash represents Greater Grand Rapids [[BerserkButton including downtown Grand Rapids itself]], and [[RantInducingSlight asking "How can that be?"]] will earn you a long and '''loud''' lecture on what "Gerrymandering" is.[[note]]In total fairness to Mr. Amash, the City of Grand Rapids is not even close to being large enough on its own for a Congressional district: the city has about 188,000 people, while a Congressional district in Michigan needs to have, on average, about 706,000. On the other hand, Grand Rapids is divided between two districts with heavily rural populations outside the city instead of being part of a single unified district that would be much more competitive thanks to GR's persuadable suburbs, which are also divided.[[/note]]
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* West Michigan: Often called the West Coast, since it lies on the shore of Lake Michigan. Centered on Grand Rapids, the state's second-largest city, which was historically a major base for the furniture industry (so much so that even today it's sometimes called Furniture City); today, the most famous company in the city is "[[InsistentTerminology multi-level marketing]]" [[WeCare consumer goods company]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Amway]], although office-furniture giant Steelcase is based in the area and the legendary Herman Miller company (of Aeron Chair fame) is based in nearby Zeeland. Also home to large numbers of stern Dutch Calvinists (to the point that there's a town of Holland just west of Grand Rapids with an annual tulip festival, wooden shoes, and a Dutch Reformed seminary/college),[[note]]And now you know why there's FreestateAmsterdam: the stern Christians went off to Michigan, and sadly that's not just a joke, it's seriously true.[[/note]] with a predictable effect on the region's politics: although the city of Grand Rapids itself is quite liberal (having been abandoned by the Dutch and taken over by Catholic Italians, Poles, and Latinos), the region as a whole is considered a very safe seat for the Republicans; it was securely UsefulNotes/GeraldFord's seat for years, and today Libertarian/Tea Party darling Justin Amash represents Greater Grand Rapids [[BerserkButton including downtown Grand Rapids itself]], and [[RantInducingSlight asking "How can that be?"]] will earn you a long and '''loud''' lecture on what "Gerrymandering" is.[[note]]In total fairness to Mr. Amash, the City of Grand Rapids is not even close to being large enough on its own for a Congressional district: the city has about 188,000 people, while a Congressional district in Michigan needs to have, on average, about 706,000. On the other hand, Grand Rapids is divided between two districts with heavily rural populations outside the city instead of being part of a single unified district that would be much more competitive thanks to GR's persuadable suburbs, which are also divided.divided--although to be fair yet again, those suburbs definitely ''lean'' Republican: Kent County (in which GR sits) has a population of about 610,000 (a little short of a full Congressional district), and the county government is mostly Republican.[[/note]]
24th Oct '15 10:23:12 PM karstovich2
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* West Michigan: Often called the West Coast, since it lies on the shore of Lake Michigan. Centered on Grand Rapids, the state's second-largest city, which was historically a major base for the furniture industry (so much so that even today it's sometimes called Furniture City); today, the most famous company in the city is "[[InsistentTerminology multi-level marketing]]" [[WeCare consumer goods company]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Amway]], although office-furniture giant Steelcase is based in the area and the legendary Herman Miller company (of Aeron Chair fame) is based in nearby Zeeland. Also home to large numbers of stern Dutch Calvinists (to the point that there's a town of Holland just west of Grand Rapids with an annual tulip festival, wooden shoes, and a Dutch Reformed seminary/college),[[note]]And now you know why there's FreestateAmsterdam: the stern Christians went off to Michigan, and sadly that's not just a joke, it's seriously true.[[/note]] with a predictable effect on the region's politics: although the city of Grand Rapids itself is quite liberal (having been abandoned by the Dutch and taken over by Catholic Italians, Poles, and Latinos), the region as a whole is considered a very safe seat for the Republicans; it was securely UsefulNotes/GeraldFord's seat for years, and today Libertarian/Tea Party darling Justin Amash represents Greater Grand Rapids [[BerserkButton including downtown Grand Rapids itself]], and [[RantInducingSlight asking "How can that be?"]] will earn you a long and '''loud''' lecture on what "Gerrymandering" is.
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* West Michigan: Often called the West Coast, since it lies on the shore of Lake Michigan. Centered on Grand Rapids, the state's second-largest city, which was historically a major base for the furniture industry (so much so that even today it's sometimes called Furniture City); today, the most famous company in the city is "[[InsistentTerminology multi-level marketing]]" [[WeCare consumer goods company]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Amway]], although office-furniture giant Steelcase is based in the area and the legendary Herman Miller company (of Aeron Chair fame) is based in nearby Zeeland. Also home to large numbers of stern Dutch Calvinists (to the point that there's a town of Holland just west of Grand Rapids with an annual tulip festival, wooden shoes, and a Dutch Reformed seminary/college),[[note]]And now you know why there's FreestateAmsterdam: the stern Christians went off to Michigan, and sadly that's not just a joke, it's seriously true.[[/note]] with a predictable effect on the region's politics: although the city of Grand Rapids itself is quite liberal (having been abandoned by the Dutch and taken over by Catholic Italians, Poles, and Latinos), the region as a whole is considered a very safe seat for the Republicans; it was securely UsefulNotes/GeraldFord's seat for years, and today Libertarian/Tea Party darling Justin Amash represents Greater Grand Rapids [[BerserkButton including downtown Grand Rapids itself]], and [[RantInducingSlight asking "How can that be?"]] will earn you a long and '''loud''' lecture on what "Gerrymandering" is.[[note]]In total fairness to Mr. Amash, the City of Grand Rapids is not even close to being large enough on its own for a Congressional district: the city has about 188,000 people, while a Congressional district in Michigan needs to have, on average, about 706,000. On the other hand, Grand Rapids is divided between two districts with heavily rural populations outside the city instead of being part of a single unified district that would be much more competitive thanks to GR's persuadable suburbs, which are also divided.[[/note]]
24th Oct '15 8:44:10 PM karstovich2
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*** Oakland University: Situated in the comfortable suburb of Rochester. Formerly Michigan State University at Rochester, it won its independence--to the relief of the MSU administration in East Lansing--in the 1960s, it currently acts as a commuter college, but it also has a strong nursing program and (as of 2011) has added a medical school. Their campus is home to the only Chick-fil-A in the state.
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*** Oakland University: Situated in the comfortable suburb of Rochester.Rochester (which, for the record, is named after [[UsefulNotes/{{Rochester}} the one]] in UsefulNotes/NewYorkState). Formerly Michigan State University at Rochester, it won its independence--to the relief of the MSU administration in East Lansing--in the 1960s, it currently acts as a commuter college, but it also has a strong nursing program and (as of 2011) has added a medical school. Their campus is home to the only Chick-fil-A in the state.
24th Oct '15 8:40:22 PM karstovich2
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An oft-forgotten fact about Michigan is that it is ''huge''--the largest state east of the Mississippi by total area, and the second-largest east of the Mississippi by land area (Georgia is a little bigger). Its land area is approximately the same as that of England and Wales combined, and its total area is slightly greater than the island of Great Britain (in other words, Michigan has an entire Scotland's worth of lake). The shape of the state--two peninsulas roughly perpendicular to each other--makes getting from the UP border with Wisconsin to Detroit quite a long trip. [[note]]The drive from Monroe (the south-easternmost major town in the LP) to UsefulNotes/{{Atlanta}} is actually shorter than the drive from Monroe to Ironwood (the north-westernmost major town in the UP)[[/note]]
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An oft-forgotten fact about Michigan is that it is ''huge''--the largest state east of the Mississippi by total area, and the second-largest east of the Mississippi by land area (Georgia is a little bigger). Its land area is approximately the same as that of England and Wales combined, and its total area is slightly greater than the [[UsefulNotes/BritainVersusTheUK island of Great Britain Britain]] (in other words, Michigan has an entire Scotland's UsefulNotes/{{Scotland}}'s worth of lake). The shape of the state--two peninsulas roughly perpendicular to each other--makes getting from the UP border with Wisconsin to Detroit quite a long trip. [[note]]The drive from Monroe (the south-easternmost major town in the LP) to UsefulNotes/{{Atlanta}} is actually shorter than the drive from Monroe to Ironwood (the north-westernmost major town in the UP)[[/note]]
7th Oct '15 10:18:28 PM nekonaito
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* Mid-Michigan: Centered on the state capital, Lansing. Moderately populated, its economy is dependent on agriculture, some industry (if you're driving a Cadillac in America, it was probably made in Lansing), government (around Lansing), and education (around Lansing and Mt. Pleasant). The Lansing area plays host to one major university (Michigan State University, in East Lansing), one significant third-tier law school (Cooley, in Downtown Lansing) a vocational college (Davenport University, again in downtown), besides the obligatory community college. Mount Pleasant is home to Central Michigan University, which is respectable enough for a "directional" college. Jackson, in the south-central part of the state, is roughly the midway point between between Ann Arbor and Lansing (traveling northwest) and between Ann Arbor and Kalamazoo (traveling roughly due west); it is notable in Michigan for playing host to Michigan's most important maximum-security prison and being the birthplace of the [[AmericanPoliticalSystem Republican Party]].[[note]]This last is somewhat ironic, as Jackson is named after AndrewJackson, the founder of the Democratic Party in its current institutional form.[[/note]] Flint--essentially Detroit-like, but smaller--can be considered part of Mid-Michigan (with the Tri-Cities of Saginaw, Bay City, and Midland), Southeast Michigan, or...
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* Mid-Michigan: Centered on the state capital, Lansing. Moderately populated, its economy is dependent on agriculture, some industry (if you're driving a Cadillac in America, it was probably made in Lansing), government (around Lansing), and education (around Lansing and Mt. Pleasant). The Lansing area plays host to one major university (Michigan State University, in East Lansing), one significant third-tier law school (Cooley, in Downtown Lansing) a vocational college (Davenport University, again in downtown), besides the obligatory community college. Mount Pleasant is home to Central Michigan University, which is respectable enough for a "directional" college. CMU has an intense rivalry with Western Michigan, and to a lesser extent Eastern as well. CMU also boasts one of the best broadcasting programs in the state, and has beaten out MSU in recent years. Jackson, in the south-central part of the state, is roughly the midway point between between Ann Arbor and Lansing (traveling northwest) and between Ann Arbor and Kalamazoo (traveling roughly due west); it is notable in Michigan for playing host to Michigan's most important maximum-security prison and being the birthplace of the [[AmericanPoliticalSystem Republican Party]].[[note]]This last is somewhat ironic, as Jackson is named after AndrewJackson, the founder of the Democratic Party in its current institutional form.[[/note]] Flint--essentially Detroit-like, but smaller--can be considered part of Mid-Michigan (with the Tri-Cities of Saginaw, Bay City, and Midland), Southeast Michigan, or...
5th Oct '15 4:26:41 AM evanb91
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* UsefulNotes/{{Baseball}} great Derek Jeter was born in [[UsefulNotes/NewJersey North Jersey]] but raised in Kalamazoo, and for this reason ''and this reason only'', people from Kalamazoo who were around when Jeter was with the Yankees are allowed to be Yankees fans.
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* UsefulNotes/{{Baseball}} great Derek Jeter was born in [[UsefulNotes/NewJersey North Jersey]] but raised in Kalamazoo, and for this reason ''and ''[[SeriousBusiness and this reason only'', only]]'', people from Kalamazoo who were around when Jeter was with the Yankees are allowed to be Yankees fans.
3rd Oct '15 3:57:55 PM nombretomado
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** Another notable tourist town in northern Michigan is Oscoda, where the first known PaulBunyan stories were published. It had a massive Air Force base (Wurtsmith) until 1993. Alpena still has the area's largest commercial airport.
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** Another notable tourist town in northern Michigan is Oscoda, where the first known PaulBunyan Myth/PaulBunyan stories were published. It had a massive Air Force base (Wurtsmith) until 1993. Alpena still has the area's largest commercial airport.
30th Sep '15 12:48:54 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''AnatomyOfAMurder''--Set in Ishpeming, again in the UP.
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* ''AnatomyOfAMurder''--Set ''Film/AnatomyOfAMurder''--Set in Ishpeming, again in the UP.
7th Sep '15 7:13:18 PM karstovich2
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* Most of the ''AmericanPie'' movies.
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* Most of the ''AmericanPie'' ''Film/AmericanPie'' movies.
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