History UsefulNotes / KatanasOfTheRisingSun

3rd Jul '16 5:54:59 AM ScorpiusOB1
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** The Navy had plans to build an even more powerful class of battleship than the ''Yamato''-class, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_A-150_battleship Design A-150]] that was going to be armed with six ''[[MoreDakka 20-inch guns]]''. The need for smaller ships such as carriers or cruisers, as well as especially the loss of four carriers in Midway, meant those plans were abandoned.

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** The Navy had plans to build an even more powerful class of battleship than the ''Yamato''-class, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_A-150_battleship Design A-150]] often nicknamed ''[[UpToEleven Super Yamato]]'', that was going to be armed with six ''[[MoreDakka 20-inch guns]]''. The need for smaller ships such as carriers or cruisers, as well as especially the loss of four carriers in Midway, meant those plans were abandoned.
** The unbuilt [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_B-65_cruiser B-65 "super cruiser"]], that would have been a scaled-up version of their heavy cruisers packing even more punch with its battlecruiser-sized guns and, of course, Type 93 torpedoes. Like the previous battleship, the defeat at Midway cancelled its building.
29th Jun '16 5:43:11 AM KabukiMessiah
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* MilitaryMaverick: A textbook example of why this trope is often less than ideal in RealLife. Imperial Japan's military had a tradition of what's called 'Gekokujo', often translated as 'the lower rules the higher.' This meant that lower-ranking officers would disobey orders when they considered them wrong and harmful to the country, while taking advantage of opportunities to expand Japanese territory or attack the enemy even in the face of orders from above not to do so. In practice, what this meant was that the 1930s were filled with assassinations, attempted coups and 'incidents' from mid-level officers with a dim understanding of how limited Japan's resources were, drawing it ever further into the quagmire of China and ultimately culminating in the disaster of World War II.
24th Jun '16 4:12:02 PM ScorpiusOB1
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** Also aircraft still at the prototype stage when Japan surrendered such as the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyushu_J7W Kyushu J7W]] ''Shiden'' (Magnificent Fulgor), that did not pass from the prototype stage and was going to have a never-developed jet-engine version, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakajima_Kikka Nakajima Kikka]], a jet-engine powered aircraft, or the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_J8M Mitubishi J8M]] ''Shūsui'' (Autumn Water), rocket-powered and based on the famous German Me-163 ''Komet''.

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** Also aircraft still at the prototype stage when Japan surrendered such as the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyushu_J7W Kyushu J7W]] ''Shiden'' (Magnificent Fulgor), that did not pass from the prototype stage and was going to have a never-developed jet-engine version, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakajima_Kikka Nakajima Kikka]], a jet-engine powered aircraft, jet engine-powered aircraft inspired by the well known German Me-262, or the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_J8M Mitubishi J8M]] ''Shūsui'' (Autumn Water), rocket-powered and based on the famous German Me-163 ''Komet''.
24th Jun '16 4:08:26 PM ScorpiusOB1
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** Also aircraft still at the prototype stage when Japan surrendered such as the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyushu_J7W Kyushu J7W]] ''Shiden'' (Magnificent Fulgor), that did not pass from the prototype stage and was going to have a never-developed jet-engine version, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakajima_Kikka Nakajima Kikka]], a jet-engine powered aircraft, or the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_J8M Mitubishi J8M]] ''Shūsui'' (Autumn Water), rocket-powered and based on the famous German Me-163 ''Komet''.
23rd Jun '16 1:40:58 PM ScorpiusOB1
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* UsefulNotes/WorldWarII: One of the Imperial forces' two main wars. ''Not'' a sweeping victory for Japan.


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* UsefulNotes/WorldWarII: One of the Imperial forces' two main wars. ''Not'' a sweeping victory for Japan.
23rd Jun '16 6:56:10 AM ScorpiusOB1
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** There were a lot of previous designs for the ''Yamato''-class battleship, including some that had all the main gun turrets in front of the bridge ''a la'' British [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson-class_battleship Nelson-class battleship]], different gun calibers (from 16 inch guns to 18 inch ones (as finally happened), and propulsion that ranged from diesel engines to turbine engines (what was decided), or both.
** The Navy had plans to build an even more powerful class of battleship than the ''Yamato''-class, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_A-150_battleship Design A-150]] that was going to be armed with six ''[[MoreDakka 20-inch guns]]''. The need for smaller ships such as carriers or cruisers, as well as especially the loss of four carriers in Midway, meant those plans were abandoned.
16th Jun '16 7:04:42 AM ScorpiusOB1
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* CoolBoat: Besides the, as famous as AwesomeButImpractical ''Yamato''-Class battleships, Japanese cruisers and destroyers were feared for the strong punch they packed even if it did not came without serious issues (see, for example, MadeOfExplodium below) or the already mentioned I-400, the submarines of the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-201-class_submarine I-201 class]] deserve mention thanks to their high speed underwater and having been designed to both for the best performance there, unlike most other submarines of the era, and mass production. They came too late to be used in combat.


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** Last, but not least, the submarines of the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-201-class_submarine I-201 class]] deserve mention thanks to their high speed underwater and having been designed to both for the best performance there, unlike most other submarines of the era, and mass production. They came too late to be used in combat.
16th Jun '16 7:00:47 AM ScorpiusOB1
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*** The I-400 class aircraft carrying submarines. An impressive technical achievement and perhaps strategically effective in the right circumstances, but incapable of inflicting significant damage on an enemy, as they could carry only three planes.

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*** The I-400 class aircraft carrying submarines. An impressive technical achievement and perhaps strategically effective in the right circumstances, but incapable of inflicting significant damage on an enemy, as they could carry only three planes.planes[[note]]Not to mention how easy would be for a destroyer to detect something so big and unmaneuverable underwater.[[/note]]


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* CoolBoat: Besides the, as famous as AwesomeButImpractical ''Yamato''-Class battleships, Japanese cruisers and destroyers were feared for the strong punch they packed even if it did not came without serious issues (see, for example, MadeOfExplodium below) or the already mentioned I-400, the submarines of the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-201-class_submarine I-201 class]] deserve mention thanks to their high speed underwater and having been designed to both for the best performance there, unlike most other submarines of the era, and mass production. They came too late to be used in combat.


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* SuperPrototype: The one-of a kind destroyer [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_destroyer_Shimakaze_%281942%29 Shimakaze]]. Very fast and armed to the teeth with torpedoes. However, as many other Japanese warships, she found that was useless against attacks by aircraft.
16th Jun '16 5:10:28 AM ScorpiusOB1
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* MidSeasonUpgrade: As war dragged on and warship losses caused by air attacks increased, the Imperial Japanese Navy upgraded the anti-aircraft weaponry of thei remaining warships, often to MoreDakka extremes. However that was not enough to save them, as both the ''Yamato'' and ''Musashi'' battleships can attest.
15th Jun '16 4:32:13 AM ScorpiusOB1
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* TheBattlestar: Several examples in the Imperial Japanese Navy:
** The battleships ''Ise'' and ''Hyuga'', after the loss of four carriers at Midway, had the two aft guns replaced with facilities to store and launch a mix of seaplanes and dive bombers, with plans to modify another two old battleships in the same scheme. They were a failure, however, because of the lack of both planes and flight crews.
** The cruiser ''Mogami'' was modified too in an ''Ise''-like configuration, but just to operate seaplanes.
** The heavy cruisers of the ''Tone'' class had all turrets mounted forward, with the stern designed to use seaplanes. Unlike the previous examples they were designed from the start with that purpose in mind.
** Many large submarines had an hangar with a seaplane, or even two in a few. The ''I-400'' already mentioned was the epitome of this , being a very large submarine -the largest non-nuclear powered ever built- carrying three planes-.
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