History UsefulNotes / KatanasOfTheRisingSun

4th May '16 3:44:46 AM Taskmaster123
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* Didn'tThinkThisThrough: Launching a surprise attack on a country that had such a huge advantage in resources, manpower, manufacturing, industry, and technological innovation that there was literally no comparison definitely falls into this.

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* Didn'tThinkThisThrough: DidntThinkThisThrough: Launching a surprise attack on a country that had such a huge advantage in resources, manpower, manufacturing, industry, and technological innovation that there was literally no comparison definitely falls into this.
4th May '16 3:43:46 AM Taskmaster123
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* Didn'tThinkThisThrough: Launching a surprise attack on a country that had such a huge advantage in resources, manpower, manufacturing, industry, and technological innovation that there was literally no comparison definitely falls into this.
2nd May '16 9:21:33 PM MAI742
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** Ironically, despite bringing America into the war being just as disastrous for Germany as it was for Japan, [[WhatAnIdiot Hitler was delighted at the news of the Pearl Harbor attack]]. He saw Americans as a "mongrel nation" that lacked the good sense to maintain Aryan supremacy, and assumed that the warrior race of Japan would have no difficulty. His subsequent declaration of war on the US made US industrial production available to the Soviet Union just when he had the Red Army on the ropes.

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** Ironically, despite bringing America into the war being just as disastrous for Germany as it was for Japan, [[WhatAnIdiot Hitler was delighted at the news of the Pearl Harbor attack]]. He saw Americans as a "mongrel nation" that lacked the good sense to maintain Aryan supremacy, and assumed that the warrior race of Japan would have no difficulty. His subsequent declaration of war on the US made US industrial production available to the Soviet Union just when he had the Red Army they were beginning to mobilise in earnest (thereby allowing them to import high-quality goods e.g. vehicle suspension springs and focus on the ropes.maximum possible output of low-quality ones e.g. vehicle door handles).
2nd May '16 9:15:39 PM MAI742
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** From Japan's perspective, this helped them a lot in the Second-Sino Japanese War.

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** From Japan's perspective, this helped them a lot in the Second-Sino Japanese War. General Yan Xishan (warlord of Shanxi province), Chairman Mao Zedong (warlord of neighbouring Sha'anxi province), the Guangxi Clique (of Guangxi province, natch), and the Guominjun (of Qinghai province) basically wanted absolutely nothing to do with one another and would have been perfectly happy for the Japanese to wipe out all the others if it meant that they got to rule over what was left of the country afterward. The only partial exception was Mao Zedong, who at least ''pretended'' to get along with the others but wasn't fooling anybody. It was the national government (under Lin Sen and ChiangKaiShek) at Chonqing's misfortune to have to deal with this shit daily, for eight years. And then a four-year civil war after that. Hooray.
2nd May '16 9:06:35 PM MAI742
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Ironically enough, Imperial Japan was one of the friendliest nations to fleeing Jewish refugees, refusing to hand over its tiny Jewish population to the Nazis and not questioning the large number of potentially illegitimate exit visas issued by Chiune Sugihara, Japanese consul to Lithuania, and offering safe haven to the Jewish refugees who reached Japan and Japanese controlled-territories through other means (upwards of 40 to 50,000 Jews escaped Nazi persecution either by taking refuge in Japanese Empire/occupied territories or by transiting through them with Japanese government's tacit approval to other places that would take them in). Compare this to the relative indifference towards Jewish refugees exhibited by the US, UK, and other Allied powers at roughly the same time period.

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Ironically enough, Imperial Japan was one of the friendliest nations to fleeing Jewish refugees, refusing to hand over its tiny Jewish population to the Nazis and not questioning the large number of potentially illegitimate exit visas issued by Chiune Sugihara, Japanese consul to Lithuania, and offering safe haven to the Jewish refugees who reached Japan and Japanese controlled-territories through other means (upwards of 40 to 50,000 Jews escaped Nazi persecution either by taking refuge in Japanese Empire/occupied territories or by transiting through them with Japanese government's tacit approval to other places that would take them in). This likely stemmed from Nazi propaganda, which backfired when it came to the Japanese because of their denigration of Jews as a barbarous and 'Asiatic/Mongoloid' race which was in danger of ending the era of European political supremacy and extinguishing European Blood Superiority through extermination or miscegnaic dilution with inferior Negroid and Asiatic blood to produce degenerate mongrels-races. [[InsultBackfire All of which sounded like good things to the Japanese.]] Compare this to the relative indifference towards Jewish refugees exhibited by the US, UK, and other Allied powers at roughly the same time period.



** Another theory is that Japanese philo-Semitism was because they '''believed''' the anti-Semitic propaganda that their German allies were feeding them. When the Nazis told them that the Jews controlled the Western financial system and were the secret masters of the governments of the other Western powers, the Japanese reaction, without the centuries-old European tradition of hating Jews to convince them that this was scary and wrong, was "these people are clearly incredible {{Guile Hero}}es and we need them on our side".

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** Another theory is that explanation for Japanese philo-Semitism was because they '''believed''' '''genuine belief''' in the anti-Semitic propaganda that their German allies were feeding them. When the Nazis told them that the Jews Judeo-Bolshevik Conspiracy controlled their fuckmassive neighbour the Western Soviet Union ''and'' the US-UK financial system and were the secret masters of the governments of the other Western powers, the Japanese reaction, thereby had massive influence over their politicians, without the centuries-old European tradition of hating Jews to convince them that this was scary and wrong, their reaction was "these people are clearly incredible {{Guile Hero}}es and we need them on our side".
2nd May '16 8:54:01 PM MAI742
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* KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect: Staff, supply, maintenance, intelligence, logistics and all other support services that weren't sufficiently glorious were neglected or ignored, with disastrous results. Even the famous Pearl Harbor raid suffered from insufficient planning and poor staff work. It only succeeded because the airmen were sufficiently skilled to overcome the flaws in the plan. For instance, they failed to attack the oil tanks because they ''were never even considered as targets'' believe it or not. (Any face-saving assertions to the contrary were invented after the war.) Their otherwise intrepid destroyer forces spent little or no effort on the tedious and unromantic subject of anti-submarine warfare, much to their later cost as their merchant fleet is largely wiped out.

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* KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect: Staff, supply, maintenance, The Japanese Army was modelled on the Prussian Army. It is often stated that this meant that it shared certain strengths (discipline, morale, initiative) with its role model. What is not, is that it also shared its weaknesses: intelligence, logistics staffwork, supply, engineering, and all other support maintenance. All 'non-combat' services that weren't sufficiently glorious were neglected or ignored, with disastrous results. Even the famous Pearl Harbor raid suffered from insufficient planning and poor staff work. It only succeeded because the airmen were sufficiently skilled to overcome the flaws in the plan. For instance, they failed to attack the oil tanks because they ''were never even considered as targets'' believe it or not. (Any face-saving assertions to the contrary were invented after the war.) Their otherwise intrepid destroyer forces spent little or no effort on the tedious and unromantic subject of anti-submarine warfare, much to their later cost as their merchant fleet is largely wiped out.
2nd May '16 8:41:02 PM MAI742
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* To a somewhat lesser extent the Arisaka type 99. A good candidate for best bolt-action rifle ever, but it was still a bolt-action rifle, and when stacked against the semi-automatic M1 Garand it was found severely lacking. It didn't help that workmanship suffered during the latter part of the war.

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* To a somewhat lesser extent the Arisaka type 99. A good candidate for best bolt-action rifle ever, but it was still a bolt-action rifle, and when stacked against the semi-automatic M1 Garand (USA) and SVT-40 (USSR) it was found severely lacking. It didn't help that workmanship suffered during the latter part of the war.
2nd May '16 5:22:34 PM Divra
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* To a somewhat lesser extent the Arisaka type 99. A good candidate for best bolt-action rifle ever, but it was still a bolt-action rifle, and when stacked against the semi-automatic M1 Garand it was found severely lacking. It didn't help that workmanship suffered during the latter part of the war.
16th Apr '16 6:24:04 PM dracogeorge
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As the 20th Century progressed, the government of Japan came more and more under the sway of militarism. Under the Meiji constitution, both the Army and Navy ministers had to be serving officers. This effectively gave the military an absolute veto over the civilian government because the cabinet would fall whenever the army or navy withdrew their support. While this did not prove a problem during the reign of the forceful and charismatic Mutsuhito (Meiji), it allowed the military to effectively dominate the government under his weak and sickly son Yoshihito (Taisho), and essentially dictate the education and upbringing of his grandson, Crown Prince Hirohito (Showa). Meanwhile, the younger cadres of army officers were coming more and more under the increasingly violent sway of various expansive ultra-nationalist movements. Thus, as the government came more under the sway of the military, the military came more under the sway of the ''militarists'', thus laying the groundwork for the great paroxysms to come. The Navy, by contrast, was more cosmopolitan, and locked in a constant struggle with the army over limited resources. So in the TheRoaringTwenties through TheThirties the political battles which really mattered in Japan were between the army and navy instead of political parties.

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As the 20th Century progressed, the government of Japan came more and more under the sway of militarism. Under the Meiji constitution, both the Army and Navy ministers had to be serving officers. This effectively gave the military an absolute veto over the civilian government because the cabinet would fall whenever the army or navy withdrew their support. While this did not prove a problem during the reign of the forceful and charismatic Mutsuhito (Meiji), it allowed the military to effectively dominate the government under his weak and sickly son Yoshihito (Taisho), and essentially dictate the education and upbringing of his grandson, Crown Prince Hirohito (Showa). Meanwhile, the younger cadres of army officers were coming more and more under the increasingly violent sway of various expansive ultra-nationalist movements. Thus, as the government came more under the sway of the military, the military came more under the sway of the ''militarists'', thus laying the groundwork for the great paroxysms to come. The Navy, by contrast, was more cosmopolitan, and locked in a constant struggle with the army over limited resources. So in the TheRoaringTwenties through TheThirties the political battles which really mattered in Japan were between the army and navy instead of political parties.
22nd Mar '16 8:17:54 AM TheWildWestPyro
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* ColdBloodedTorture: During World War II it was known to tie the wounded to a tree, torture them and leave them with a sign that said "It took him a long time to die". [[MoralMyopia Naturally]], the Allies didn't like that.
** A common favorite of Japanese soldiers was to force bayonet blades or katanas into the vaginas of non-Japanese Asian women.

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* ColdBloodedTorture: During World War II II, it was known to tie the wounded to a tree, torture them and leave them with a sign that said "It took him a long time to die". [[MoralMyopia Naturally]], the Allies didn't like that.
** A common favorite of Japanese soldiers was to force bayonet blades or katanas into the vaginas of non-Japanese Asian women.women, most infamously during the Nanjing Massacre.



** Unit 731 had an entire campaign where they calmly vivisected Chinese civilians or POWs to remove various organs or perform violent abortions without any anesthetic whatsoever.

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** Unit 731 had an entire campaign where they calmly casually vivisected Chinese civilians or POWs prisoners of war to remove various organs or perform violent abortions without any anesthetic whatsoever.whatsoever.
** Then there were the many, many cases of captured soldiers or unlucky civilians being bound and promptly used for bayonet practice.
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