History UsefulNotes / Islam

12th Nov '17 4:21:30 AM EvilKid
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** On numbers of wives itself is this because before this law is declared some number of men have more than four wives, a man in hadith claims to have '''12''' wives and intends to divorces 8 of them to follow the law rather than protest it.
** On "woman-can't-lead-the-men-at-prayer" thing, one of most logiical reason is [[AllMenArePerverts "when men seeing women from back, they can have inappropriate thought while they are supposed to think only Allah" logic.]] So that's also the reason why the praying lines/places for men and women are divided.
** Another one for female spiritual leader is an imam (spiritual leader) is expected to leads the shalat most of the time and women are forbidden to pray when they are on periods, so they can't. They can deliver sermon but not pray themselves.



* MartyStu: What Muhammad is supposed to be. Men feared him, women loved him, sheep walked alongside him...Justified, this guy (according to Muslims, at least) is meant to be the greatest guy ever lived on Earth, to whom the faithful ought to look up. Only Jesus (who, you will remember, ''is'' a MessianicArchetype of the Bible in Islam) compares to him.

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* MartyStu: What Muhammad is supposed to be. Men feared repected him, women loved him, sheep walked alongside him...Justified, this guy (according to Muslims, at least) is meant to be the greatest guy ever lived on Earth, to whom the faithful ought to look up. Only Jesus (who, you will remember, ''is'' a MessianicArchetype of the Bible in Islam) compares to him.
20th Sep '17 5:35:55 AM Morgenthaler
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* MagicMeteorite: The Black Stone inside the Kaaba of Mecca is presumed to be a meteorite that fell from heaven, and forms an important part in the pilgrimage ritual.

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* MagicMeteorite: MagicMeteor: The Black Stone inside the Kaaba of Mecca is presumed to be a meteorite that fell from heaven, and forms an important part in the pilgrimage ritual.
20th Sep '17 5:35:42 AM Morgenthaler
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* MagicMeteorite: The Black Stone inside the Kaaba of Mecca is presumed to be a meteorite that fell from heaven, and forms an important part in the pilgrimage ritual.
17th Sep '17 12:57:29 PM nombretomado
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* [[TropesAreFlexible Rules Are Flexible]]: Many rules in Islam that are seen as too strict for today have some loopholes put in to make them fit in modern society. For example, cutting a thief's hand off is only applied if the thief stole property worth more than 1/4 gold dinar, while other Hadiths also require at least four witnesses and inspection of whether the thief is redeemable or not. [[http://lordsofthedrinks.com/2013/08/06/muslims-can-drink-just-like-mohamed/ There is also contention about the status of alcohol, given that alcohol is never ruled haram in the Quran, nor is it mentioned in any context which would imply that it is 100% forbidden or a sin to consume. What is warned against, however, is reckless intoxication. So, while not technically banned, it is considered generally detestable. Keep in mind that many Muslims do drink.]]
13th Sep '17 5:04:48 PM nombretomado
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** Incidentally, a group of Twelver Shia that you might have heard about in the news are the Alawites. A mystical sect, they believe...well we don't know that much about them as they are famously secretive about their faith (some main tenants of Alawism includes a trinitarian God, a vaguely Hindu belief on the reincarnation of souls, and the elevation of Ali to a quasi-divine status--if you have been paying attention up to this point, it's quite clear that none of these doctrine would sit well with mainstream Muslims, Sunni or Shia). They have become important in the news because the group's most famous adherent is Bashar Al-Assad, the (current) dictator of Syria. Despite Bashar's and his father Hafez's work in bringing Alawism closer to the Islamic mainstream, many still see the Alawites as heretics. This resulted in the rather uncomfortable situation where the Syrian Alawites (who hold most of the political and military power in the country) gets along better with the nation's Christians then the Sunni Muslims (which forms the overwhelming majority of the Free Syrian Army). This goes a long way to explain why the [[ArabSpring Syrian Civil War of 2011]] is such as clusterf*ck.

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** Incidentally, a group of Twelver Shia that you might have heard about in the news are the Alawites. A mystical sect, they believe...well we don't know that much about them as they are famously secretive about their faith (some main tenants of Alawism includes a trinitarian God, a vaguely Hindu belief on the reincarnation of souls, and the elevation of Ali to a quasi-divine status--if you have been paying attention up to this point, it's quite clear that none of these doctrine would sit well with mainstream Muslims, Sunni or Shia). They have become important in the news because the group's most famous adherent is Bashar Al-Assad, the (current) dictator of Syria. Despite Bashar's and his father Hafez's work in bringing Alawism closer to the Islamic mainstream, many still see the Alawites as heretics. This resulted in the rather uncomfortable situation where the Syrian Alawites (who hold most of the political and military power in the country) gets along better with the nation's Christians then the Sunni Muslims (which forms the overwhelming majority of the Free Syrian Army). This goes a long way to explain why the [[ArabSpring [[UsefulNotes/TheArabSpring Syrian Civil War of 2011]] is such as clusterf*ck.
20th Aug '17 3:50:11 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* "Islam" اسلام is a noun referring to the religion itself. Its etymology is derived from the tri-consonant "S-L-M" from which the words peace "salam سلام", safety "salama سلم", greeting "sallama سلّم", being safe/secure "saleem سليم", greeting "sallama", and surrender "istislam" استسلام; also deriv. "Muslim"[[note]]Feminine: Muslimah, plural: Muslimin[[/note]] (one who submits, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVSTgjVVjDQ pronounced]] "moos-lim"[[note]]The "u" in "Muslim" is pronounced like the "u" in "pudding" or "butcher," or the "oo" in "foot" or "book." Think of how someone from OopNorth pronounces "up north."[[/note]]) is an adjective, and the noun for an individual adherent of Islam. (An [[SpellMyNameWithAnS alternate spelling]] is "Moslem," pronounced "moss-lem.") "Islamic" is the adjective for cultural constructs relating to Muslims and Islam: Islamic civilisation, the Islamic Golden Age, etc. "Islamist," a neologism, is a noun and adjective referring to adherents of expansionist political Islam and does not necessarily represent all Muslims, or the majority, of the religion (given the definitions of the term, it's difficult to say how many Muslims it includes). Older European texts sometimes use "Mohammedan" for Muslim, but it is considered offensive by Muslims since it is by analogy with the word "Christian," implying that Muslims worship Muhammad in the same way Christians worship Christ. The term came about because the Muslims do believe in following the example set by Muhammad to the best of their ability as told in suras 60 and is said to be a sublime example of morality in sura 68, in fact the Sira and Hadith mainly exist to give people a better understand on who Muhammad was since the Qur'an does not relate the life of the prophet in detail. Muslims take the term Mohammadan to imply the blasphemy that he is worshiped so the respectful no longer call Muslimin Mohammedans.

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* "Islam" اسلام is a noun referring to the religion itself. Its etymology is derived from the tri-consonant "S-L-M" from which the words peace "salam سلام", safety "salama سلم", greeting "sallama سلّم", being safe/secure "saleem سليم", greeting "sallama", and surrender "istislam" استسلام; also deriv. "Muslim"[[note]]Feminine: Muslimah, plural: Muslimin[[/note]] (one who submits, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVSTgjVVjDQ pronounced]] "moos-lim"[[note]]The "u" in "Muslim" is pronounced like the "u" in "pudding" or "butcher," or the "oo" in "foot" or "book." Think of how someone from OopNorth pronounces "up north."[[/note]]) is an adjective, and the noun for an individual adherent of Islam. (An [[SpellMyNameWithAnS alternate spelling]] is "Moslem," pronounced "moss-lem."moss-lim.") "Islamic" is the adjective for cultural constructs relating to Muslims and Islam: Islamic civilisation, the Islamic Golden Age, etc. "Islamist," a neologism, is a noun and adjective referring to adherents of expansionist political Islam and does not necessarily represent all Muslims, or the majority, of the religion (given the definitions of the term, it's difficult to say how many Muslims it includes). Older European texts sometimes use "Mohammedan" for Muslim, but it is considered offensive by Muslims since it is by analogy with the word "Christian," implying that Muslims worship Muhammad in the same way Christians worship Christ. The term came about because the Muslims do believe in following the example set by Muhammad to the best of their ability as told in suras 60 and is said to be a sublime example of morality in sura 68, in fact the Sira and Hadith mainly exist to give people a better understand on who Muhammad was since the Qur'an does not relate the life of the prophet in detail. Muslims take the term Mohammadan to imply the blasphemy that he is worshiped so the respectful no longer call Muslimin Mohammedans.
20th Aug '17 3:38:46 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* 'Islam' اسلام is a noun referring to the religion itself. Its etymology is derived from the tri-consonant "S-L-M" from which the words peace "salam سلام", safety "salama سلم", greeting "sallama سلّم", being safe/secure "saleem سليم", greeting "sallama", and surrender "istislam" استسلام; also deriv. 'Muslim' (one who submits, sometimes 'Moslem' - pronounced "moos-lim," and "moss-lem")[[note]]Feminine: Muslimah, plural: Muslimin[[/note]] is an adjective, and the noun for an individual adherent of Islam. 'Islamic' is the adjective for cultural constructs relating to Muslims and Islam: Islamic civilisation, the Islamic Golden Age, etc. 'Islamist', a neologism, is a noun and adjective referring to adherents of expansionist political Islam and does not necessarily represent all Muslims, or the majority, of the religion (given the definitions of the term, it's difficult to say how many Muslims it includes). Older European texts sometimes use "Mohammedan" for Muslim, but it is considered offensive by Muslims since it is by analogy with the word "Christian," implying that Muslims worship Muhammad in the same way Christians worship Christ. The term came about because the Muslims do believe in following the example set by Muhammad to the best of their ability as told in suras 60 and is said to be a sublime example of morality in sura 68, in fact the Sira and Hadith mainly exist to give people a better understand on who Muhammad was since the Qu'ran does not relate the life of the prophet in detail. Muslims take the term Mohammadan to imply the blasphemy that he is worshiped so the respectful no longer call Muslimin Mohammedans.
* Islam is a monotheistic religion (''tawhid'') and very serious about it. The official Muslim line is that the Christian Trinity is too close to polytheism (''shirk''), and Muslims do not believe that God had, has, or ever will have a Son; there is a verse in the Quran that states: "Neither does he beget nor is he begotten", that sums it up.
** Muslims certainly do believe that Jesus existed, and is the one in the Bible. He was born of a virgin[[note]]Mary is deeply loved and revered in Islam. She is the only woman named in the Holy Q'ran.[[/note]], (but was not the son of God or God in any way[[note]]Muslims believe that claims of Jesus being divine were falsely attributed after the fact, with Jesus never having said anything of the sort.[[/note]]), was one of the great prophets who preached the word of God, was not martyred nor resurrected, but did ascend to heaven. He remains there and will return before the last day (Qiyamah) to wage war against the unbeliever, Anti-Christ, and Gog and Magog. Shi'a believe that he shares this role with the Mahdi[[note]]An Arabic word meaning "Guided One", the prophesied redeemer of Islam who will rule for 40 years before the Day of Judgment[[/note]]. Sunna, who make up 85-90% of Muslims, believe that role is fulfilled solely by Jesus, or as he is known in Islamic text, Isa (A better Arabic translation for Jesus would be Yasū يسوع from Yahushua/Yeshua ישוע‎ (similar to Joshua before translation). Isa عيسى‎ comes from Esau עֵשָׂו, twin brother of Jacob if taken directly from Hebrew. It could be justified by the Greek/Latin Isus/Isous but is still a strange path to take).

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* 'Islam' "Islam" اسلام is a noun referring to the religion itself. Its etymology is derived from the tri-consonant "S-L-M" from which the words peace "salam سلام", safety "salama سلم", greeting "sallama سلّم", being safe/secure "saleem سليم", greeting "sallama", and surrender "istislam" استسلام; also deriv. 'Muslim' (one who submits, sometimes 'Moslem' - pronounced "moos-lim," and "moss-lem")[[note]]Feminine: "Muslim"[[note]]Feminine: Muslimah, plural: Muslimin[[/note]] (one who submits, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVSTgjVVjDQ pronounced]] "moos-lim"[[note]]The "u" in "Muslim" is pronounced like the "u" in "pudding" or "butcher," or the "oo" in "foot" or "book." Think of how someone from OopNorth pronounces "up north."[[/note]]) is an adjective, and the noun for an individual adherent of Islam. 'Islamic' (An [[SpellMyNameWithAnS alternate spelling]] is "Moslem," pronounced "moss-lem.") "Islamic" is the adjective for cultural constructs relating to Muslims and Islam: Islamic civilisation, the Islamic Golden Age, etc. 'Islamist', "Islamist," a neologism, is a noun and adjective referring to adherents of expansionist political Islam and does not necessarily represent all Muslims, or the majority, of the religion (given the definitions of the term, it's difficult to say how many Muslims it includes). Older European texts sometimes use "Mohammedan" for Muslim, but it is considered offensive by Muslims since it is by analogy with the word "Christian," implying that Muslims worship Muhammad in the same way Christians worship Christ. The term came about because the Muslims do believe in following the example set by Muhammad to the best of their ability as told in suras 60 and is said to be a sublime example of morality in sura 68, in fact the Sira and Hadith mainly exist to give people a better understand on who Muhammad was since the Qu'ran Qur'an does not relate the life of the prophet in detail. Muslims take the term Mohammadan to imply the blasphemy that he is worshiped so the respectful no longer call Muslimin Mohammedans.
* Islam is a monotheistic religion (''tawhid'') and very serious about it. The official Muslim line is that the Christian Trinity is too close to polytheism (''shirk''), and Muslims do not believe that God had, has, or ever will have a Son; there is a one verse in the Quran Qur'an that states: sums it up as "Neither does he beget nor is he begotten", that sums it up.
** Muslims certainly do believe that Jesus existed, and is the one in the Bible. He was born of a virgin[[note]]Mary is deeply loved and revered in Islam. She is the only woman named in the Holy Q'ran.Qur'an.[[/note]], (but was not the son of God or God in any way[[note]]Muslims believe that claims of Jesus being divine were falsely attributed after the fact, with Jesus never having said anything of the sort.[[/note]]), was one of the great prophets who preached the word of God, was not martyred nor resurrected, but did ascend to heaven. He remains there and will return before the last day (Qiyamah) to wage war against the unbeliever, Anti-Christ, and Gog and Magog. Shi'a believe that he shares this role with the Mahdi[[note]]An Arabic word meaning "Guided One", the prophesied redeemer of Islam who will rule for 40 years before the Day of Judgment[[/note]]. Sunna, who make up 85-90% of Muslims, believe that role is fulfilled solely by Jesus, or as he is known in Islamic text, Isa (A better Arabic translation for Jesus would be Yasū يسوع from Yahushua/Yeshua ישוע‎ (similar to Joshua before translation). Isa عيسى‎ comes from Esau עֵשָׂו, twin brother of Jacob if taken directly from Hebrew. It could be justified by the Greek/Latin Isus/Isous but is still a strange path to take).
21st Jul '17 12:43:57 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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** Muslims certainly do believe that Jesus existed, and is the one in the Bible. He was born of a virgin[[note]]Mary is deeply loved and revered in Islam. She is the only woman named in the Holy Q'ran.[[/note]], but not the son of God or God in any way[[note]]Muslims believe that claims of Jesus being divine were falsely attributed after the fact, with Jesus never having said anything of the sort.[[/note]]), was one of the great prophets who preached the word of God, was not martyred nor resurrected, but did ascend to heaven. He remains there and will return before the last day (Qiyamah) to wage war against the unbeliever, Anti-Christ, and Gog and Magog. Shi'a believe that he shares this role with the Mahdi[[note]]An Arabic word meaning "Guided One", the prophesied redeemer of Islam who will rule for 40 years before the Day of Judgment[[/note]]. Sunna, who make up 85-90% of Muslims, believe that role is fulfilled solely by Jesus, or as he is known in Islamic text, Isa (A better Arabic translation for Jesus would be Yasū يسوع from Yahushua/Yeshua ישוע‎ (similar to Joshua before translation). Isa عيسى‎ comes from Esau עֵשָׂו, twin brother of Jacob if taken directly from Hebrew. It could be justified by the Greek/Latin Isus/Isous but is still a strange path to take).

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** Muslims certainly do believe that Jesus existed, and is the one in the Bible. He was born of a virgin[[note]]Mary is deeply loved and revered in Islam. She is the only woman named in the Holy Q'ran.[[/note]], but (but was not the son of God or God in any way[[note]]Muslims believe that claims of Jesus being divine were falsely attributed after the fact, with Jesus never having said anything of the sort.[[/note]]), was one of the great prophets who preached the word of God, was not martyred nor resurrected, but did ascend to heaven. He remains there and will return before the last day (Qiyamah) to wage war against the unbeliever, Anti-Christ, and Gog and Magog. Shi'a believe that he shares this role with the Mahdi[[note]]An Arabic word meaning "Guided One", the prophesied redeemer of Islam who will rule for 40 years before the Day of Judgment[[/note]]. Sunna, who make up 85-90% of Muslims, believe that role is fulfilled solely by Jesus, or as he is known in Islamic text, Isa (A better Arabic translation for Jesus would be Yasū يسوع from Yahushua/Yeshua ישוע‎ (similar to Joshua before translation). Isa عيسى‎ comes from Esau עֵשָׂו, twin brother of Jacob if taken directly from Hebrew. It could be justified by the Greek/Latin Isus/Isous but is still a strange path to take).
20th Jul '17 2:02:28 AM CaptEquinox
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** Muslims certainly do believe that Jesus existed, and is the one in the Bible. He was born of a virgin, but not the son of God or God in any way[[note]]Muslims believe that claims of Jesus being divine were falsely attributed after the fact, with Jesus never having said anything of the sort.[[/note]]), was one of the great prophets who preached the word of God, was not martyred nor resurrected, but did ascend to heaven. He remains there and will return before the last day (Qiyamah) to wage war against the unbeliever, Anti-Christ, and Gog and Magog. Shi'a believe that he shares this role with the Mahdi[[note]]An Arabic word meaning "Guided One", the prophesied redeemer of Islam who will rule for 40 years before the Day of Judgment[[/note]]. Sunna, who make up 85-90% of Muslims, believe that role is fulfilled solely by Jesus, or as he is known in Islamic text, Isa (A better Arabic translation for Jesus would be Yasū يسوع from Yahushua/Yeshua ישוע‎ (similar to Joshua before translation). Isa عيسى‎ comes from Esau עֵשָׂו, twin brother of Jacob if taken directly from Hebrew. It could be justified by the Greek/Latin Isus/Isous but is still a strange path to take).

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** Muslims certainly do believe that Jesus existed, and is the one in the Bible. He was born of a virgin, virgin[[note]]Mary is deeply loved and revered in Islam. She is the only woman named in the Holy Q'ran.[[/note]], but not the son of God or God in any way[[note]]Muslims believe that claims of Jesus being divine were falsely attributed after the fact, with Jesus never having said anything of the sort.[[/note]]), was one of the great prophets who preached the word of God, was not martyred nor resurrected, but did ascend to heaven. He remains there and will return before the last day (Qiyamah) to wage war against the unbeliever, Anti-Christ, and Gog and Magog. Shi'a believe that he shares this role with the Mahdi[[note]]An Arabic word meaning "Guided One", the prophesied redeemer of Islam who will rule for 40 years before the Day of Judgment[[/note]]. Sunna, who make up 85-90% of Muslims, believe that role is fulfilled solely by Jesus, or as he is known in Islamic text, Isa (A better Arabic translation for Jesus would be Yasū يسوع from Yahushua/Yeshua ישוע‎ (similar to Joshua before translation). Isa عيسى‎ comes from Esau עֵשָׂו, twin brother of Jacob if taken directly from Hebrew. It could be justified by the Greek/Latin Isus/Isous but is still a strange path to take).
16th Jun '17 4:51:58 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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** Muslims certainly do believe that Jesus existed, and is the one in the Bible. He was born of a virgin, but not the son of God or God in any way[[note]]Muslims believe that claims of Jesus being divine were falsely attributed after the fact, with Jesus never having said anything of the sort.[[/note]]), was the penultimate of the great prophets who preached the word of God, was not martyred nor resurrected, but did ascend to heaven. He remains there and will return before the last day (Qiyamah) to wage war against the unbeliever, Anti-Christ, and Gog and Magog. Shi'a believe that he shares this role with the Mahdi[[note]]An Arabic word meaning "Guided One", the prophesied redeemer of Islam who will rule for 40 years before the Day of Judgment[[/note]]. Sunna, who make up 85-90% of Muslims, believe that role is fulfilled solely by Jesus, or as he is known in Islamic text, Isa (A better Arabic translation for Jesus would be Yasū يسوع from Yahushua/Yeshua ישוע‎ (similar to Joshua before translation). Isa عيسى‎ comes from Esau עֵשָׂו, twin brother of Jacob if taken directly from Hebrew. It could be justified by the Greek/Latin Isus/Isous but is still a strange path to take).

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** Muslims certainly do believe that Jesus existed, and is the one in the Bible. He was born of a virgin, but not the son of God or God in any way[[note]]Muslims believe that claims of Jesus being divine were falsely attributed after the fact, with Jesus never having said anything of the sort.[[/note]]), was the penultimate one of the great prophets who preached the word of God, was not martyred nor resurrected, but did ascend to heaven. He remains there and will return before the last day (Qiyamah) to wage war against the unbeliever, Anti-Christ, and Gog and Magog. Shi'a believe that he shares this role with the Mahdi[[note]]An Arabic word meaning "Guided One", the prophesied redeemer of Islam who will rule for 40 years before the Day of Judgment[[/note]]. Sunna, who make up 85-90% of Muslims, believe that role is fulfilled solely by Jesus, or as he is known in Islamic text, Isa (A better Arabic translation for Jesus would be Yasū يسوع from Yahushua/Yeshua ישוע‎ (similar to Joshua before translation). Isa عيسى‎ comes from Esau עֵשָׂו, twin brother of Jacob if taken directly from Hebrew. It could be justified by the Greek/Latin Isus/Isous but is still a strange path to take).
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