History UsefulNotes / Hungary

7th Jul '16 4:21:34 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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24th May '16 2:27:58 AM The_Glorious_SOB
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** One Hungarian national symbols is a crown with a wonky cross on top. This is thought to be St. Stephen's crown. How the cross got bent is a matter of heated academic debate. A folk tale explains that King Mathias hitting it with a shovel when he was startled by the angels trying to crown him). The real expiation is likely to have been during one of the period when it was hidden from one of Hungary's conquerors.

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** One Hungarian national symbols symbol is a crown with a wonky cross on top. This is thought to be St. Stephen's crown. How the cross got bent is a matter of heated academic debate. A folk tale explains that King Mathias hitting it with a shovel when he was startled by the angels trying to crown him). The real expiation is likely to have been during one of the period when it was hidden from one of Hungary's conquerors.
10th May '16 10:34:44 AM amitakartok
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* After some intense peacemaking the Austro-Hungarian Empire was born. This was also thanks to the influence of Austrian Empress/Queen Consort of Hungary, Elisabeth of Wittelsbach aka Sisi, who adored Hungary so much that she spent more time in Hungarian lands than in Vienna itself. This lasted until the end of the UsefulNotes/FirstWorldWar, when about three-quarters of the country was divided between the neighboring countries, leaving large ethnic Hungarian minorities there. This is known as the Treaty of Trianon and is the source of intense [[FlameWar flame ars]] in Hungary even to this day, not the mention some serious conflicts with the neighbors. Thing is, the Entente did the splitting ''intentionally'', with two goals: making Hungary unable to effectively go to war ever again and creating a solution that didn't satisfy ''anyone'' [[DivideAndConquer in order to make them endlessly feud with each other instead of the West]].
* As a result, Hungary developed a severe case of fascism, sided with the losing side again in UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo and became CommieLanda after the war. The era and its more dubious aspects still inspire heated debates and [[FlameWar flame wars]] today, with a degree of NeverLiveItDown thrown in by both sides.

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* After some intense peacemaking the Austro-Hungarian Empire was born. This was also thanks to the influence of Austrian Empress/Queen Consort of Hungary, Elisabeth of Wittelsbach aka Sisi, who adored Hungary so much that she spent more time in Hungarian lands than in Vienna itself. This lasted until the end of the UsefulNotes/FirstWorldWar, when about three-quarters of the country was divided between the neighboring countries, leaving large ethnic Hungarian minorities there. This is known as the Treaty of Trianon and is the source of intense [[FlameWar flame ars]] wars]] in Hungary even to this day, not the mention some serious conflicts with the neighbors. Thing is, the Entente did the splitting ''intentionally'', with two goals: making Hungary unable to effectively go to war ever again and creating a solution that didn't satisfy ''anyone'' [[DivideAndConquer in order to make them endlessly feud with each other instead of the West]].
* As a result, Hungary developed a severe case of fascism, sided with the losing side again in UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo and became CommieLanda CommieLand after the war. The era and its more dubious aspects still inspire heated debates and [[FlameWar flame wars]] today, with a degree of NeverLiveItDown thrown in by both sides.



* Following TheGreatPoliticsMessUp Hungary became a democracy and a member of NATO and EU; the most current government is conservative right with an absolute majority who are despite many unpopular (and some obviously cronyst) policies, could still win absolute majority this year (though some gerrymandering may have been involved) and its leader still being the most popular politician in the country. Many of the government's economic policies have sparked debate and controversy both in and outside the country [[InternetBackdraft and it's best to]] [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement leave it at that]]. All in all, the current local attitude towards politics is that of resigned apathy.
** The second most supported party is far-right and nationalist, (which wasn't even on the map before 2008) which by the latest elections is supported by about 20% percent of the voting population, ahead of the slowly dying very unpopular (even on the left, as new leftist parties have begun to rise in their wake) socialists' 15%. More importantly, the party actually has a seat in the EU parliament, increasing the number of eurosceptics.

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* Following TheGreatPoliticsMessUp TheGreatPoliticsMessUp, Hungary became a democracy and a member of NATO and EU; EU. Since 2010, the most current government is led by the conservative right with an absolute majority who are Fidesz[[note]]acronym of "Alliance of Young Democrats"[[/note]], despite many unpopular (and some obviously cronyst) nepotistic) policies, could still win absolute majority this year managed to acquire supermajority and even retain it for their second term (though some gerrymandering may have been involved) involved and supermajority was lost a few months into their second term due to interim municipal elections), with its leader PM Viktor Orbán still being the most popular politician in among the country. Many increasingly politically apathetic citizenry. In recent years, Hungary has experienced a geopolitical shift eastward, making economic cooperation treaty after treaty with Russia and China in response to many of the government's economic policies have sparked debate and sparking controversy both in and outside the country [[InternetBackdraft and it's best to]] [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement leave it at that]]. All in all, the current local attitude towards politics is condemnation from Brussels, coupled with a major bribery scandal that of resigned apathy.
** The second most supported party is far-right and nationalist, (which wasn't even on
saw multiple high-ranking Hungarian government officials being declared ''persona non grata'' in the map before 2008) which by United States.
** Fidesz' classic foe,
the latest elections is supported by about 20% percent socialist successor of the voting population, ahead Communist era's communist party, has been bleeding from countless wounds since massively losing face in 2008 from a political scandal of the slowly dying very unpopular (even on the left, as epic proportions; in fact, new leftist parties have begun to rise in their wake) socialists' 15%. More importantly, formed left and right from former socialists, fragmenting the political left too much to pose much threat to Fidesz. Yet these are all eclipsed by nationalist far-right party actually has Jobbik[[note]]literally meaning "the right/better one", shortened from "Movement for a Right/Better Hungary"[[/note]] which [[DarkHorseVictory exploded out of nowhere to get a parliament seat in the 2008 elections]], steadily increasing its popular support to the point where it acquired a seat in the EU parliament, increasing European Parliament, won the number 2015 interim municipal election that resulted in Fidesz being [[DecidedByOneVote one representative short of eurosceptics.a supermajority]] for the first time since 2010 and as of 2016 are considered Fidesz' primary contender in place of the socialists, even with every other party in the country (and most EP representatives) collectively refusing to cooperate with Jobbik out of concern for their far-right leaning. In the past years, Jobbik carried out repeated purges of its more radical elements in an attempt to make themselves more palatable to those who are put off by their nationalism. Unlike Fidesz and the leftists who maintained their core voter base within the pensioner-age generation that brought them to power in 1989, Jobbik's voters are mostly below the age of 30.
17th Apr '16 8:36:12 PM frogpatrol
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*** Brief History***
* Hungarians arrived at the land which became Hungary at the end of the 9th century. They were like your typical nomads, expert in horsemanship and archery.

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*** Brief History***
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* Hungarians arrived at the land which became would become Hungary at the end of the 9th century. They were like your typical nomads, expert in horsemanship and archery.



*** Notes on Language and Culture***

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** To confused non-Magyars/non-Poles: "Poles and Hungarians are brothers, they fight and drink together", or something like it, is a short rhyme in both Polish and Hungarian, and a symbol of the traditional good relations between the two countries. Possibly originated in the middle ages when for a while the two countries were ruled by the same king.

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** To confused non-Magyars/non-Poles: "Poles and Hungarians are brothers, they fight and drink together", or something like it, together" (loosely translated) is a short rhyme in both Polish and Hungarian, and a symbol of the traditional good relations between the two countries. Possibly The alliance possibly originated in the middle ages when for a while the two countries were ruled by the same king.
17th Apr '16 7:49:39 PM frogpatrol
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==Brief History==

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==Notes on Language and Culture==

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17th Apr '16 7:49:06 PM frogpatrol
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Hungary ('''Hungarian:''' ''Magyarország''). [[OverusedRunningGag Not]] [[IncrediblyLamePun a land with a hunger problem]], it's known as Magyarország by those who are from there. Most important things are covered by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary The Other Wiki]], so there is just some basic info here.

'''Brief History'''

* Hungarians arrived at the land which became Hungary at the end of the 9th century. They were like your typical nomad people, lots of horses and bowmanship etc.

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Hungary ('''Hungarian:''' '''Hungary''' (in Hungarian ''Magyarország''). [[OverusedRunningGag Not]] [[IncrediblyLamePun a land with a hunger problem]], it's known as Magyarország by those who are from there. Most important things are covered by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary The Other Wiki]], so there is just some basic info here.

'''Brief History'''

==Brief History==

* Hungarians arrived at the land which became Hungary at the end of the 9th century. They were like your typical nomad people, lots of horses nomads, expert in horsemanship and bowmanship etc.archery.



** One of Hungary's national symbols is a crown with a wonky cross on top. This is thought to be St. Stephen's crown. How the cross got bent is a matter of heated academic debate and various folk tales (such as King Mathias hitting it with a shovel when he was startled by the angels trying to crown him), but it is likely to have been during one of the period when it was hidden from one of Hungary's conquerors.
* Since the 14th the country had skirmishes and large scale battles with the Ottoman Empire, that ended with an invasion of part of Hungary in 1541. The country was torn into three parts, one controlled by the Ottoman Empire, one by Habsburg Austria, and Transylvania, a small country which was balancing between the other two, mainly to avoid destruction.

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** One of Hungary's Hungarian national symbols is a crown with a wonky cross on top. This is thought to be St. Stephen's crown. How the cross got bent is a matter of heated academic debate and various debate. A folk tales (such as tale explains that King Mathias hitting it with a shovel when he was startled by the angels trying to crown him), but it him). The real expiation is likely to have been during one of the period when it was hidden from one of Hungary's conquerors.
* Since the 14th the country had skirmishes and large scale battles with the Ottoman Empire, that Empire. That ended with an invasion of part of Hungary in 1541. The country was torn into three parts, one controlled by the Ottoman Empire, one by Habsburg Austria, Austria and one part into and Transylvania, a small country which was balancing balanced between the other two, mainly to avoid destruction.for protection.



* After some intense peacemaking the Austro-Hungarian Empire was born. This was also thanks to the influence of Austrian Empress/Queen Consort of Hungary, Elisabeth of Wittelsbach aka Sisi, who adored Hungary so much that she spent more time in Hungarian lands than in Vienna itself. This lasted until the end of the UsefulNotes/FirstWorldWar, when about three-quarters of the country was divided between the neighboring countries, leaving large ethnic Hungarian minorities there. This is known as the Treaty of Trianon and is the source of intense [[FlameWar Flamewars]] in Hungary even to this day, not the mention some serious conflicts with the neighbors. Thing is, the Entente did the splitting ''intentionally'', with two goals: making Hungary unable to effectively go to war ever again and creating a solution that didn't satisfy ''anyone'' [[DivideAndConquer in order to make them endlessly feud with each other instead of the West]].
* As a result, Hungary developed a severe case of Fascism, sided with the losing side again in UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo, and after the war became CommieLand. The era and its more dubious aspects still inspire heated debates and [[FlameWar flame wars]] today, with a degree of NeverLiveItDown thrown in by both sides.
* Most people weren't too happy, which led to The Hungarian Revolution of 1956. Crushed by the Soviets.
* After 1956, at least, Hungary went through some more low-key reforms, and became ironically known as "the happiest barracks in the camp", under "Goulash Communism". It was also during this time that they had a really, ''really'' good football team; they won three Olympic gold medals, but sadly never won a WorldCup (losing the 1954 final to West Germany in a match known in Germany as "The Miracle in Bern").
* After TheGreatPoliticsMessUp Hungary became a democracy and a member of NATO and EU; the most current government is conservative right with an absolute majority who are despite many unpopular (and some obviously cronyst) policies, could still win absolute majority this year (though some gerrymandering may have been involved) and its leader still being the most popular politician in the country. Many of the government's economic policies have sparked debate and controversy both in and outside the country [[InternetBackdraft and it's best to]] [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement leave it at that]]. All in all, the current local attitude towards politics is that of resigned apathy.
** The second most supported party is a far-right nationalist one, (which wasn't even on the map before 2008) which by the latest elections is supported by about 20% percent of the voting population, ahead of the slowly dying very unpopular (even on the left, as new leftist parties have begun to rise in their wake) socialists' 15%. More importantly, the party actually has a seat in the EU parliament, increasing the number of eurosceptics.

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* After some intense peacemaking the Austro-Hungarian Empire was born. This was also thanks to the influence of Austrian Empress/Queen Consort of Hungary, Elisabeth of Wittelsbach aka Sisi, who adored Hungary so much that she spent more time in Hungarian lands than in Vienna itself. This lasted until the end of the UsefulNotes/FirstWorldWar, when about three-quarters of the country was divided between the neighboring countries, leaving large ethnic Hungarian minorities there. This is known as the Treaty of Trianon and is the source of intense [[FlameWar Flamewars]] flame ars]] in Hungary even to this day, not the mention some serious conflicts with the neighbors. Thing is, the Entente did the splitting ''intentionally'', with two goals: making Hungary unable to effectively go to war ever again and creating a solution that didn't satisfy ''anyone'' [[DivideAndConquer in order to make them endlessly feud with each other instead of the West]].
* As a result, Hungary developed a severe case of Fascism, fascism, sided with the losing side again in UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo, UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo and became CommieLanda after the war became CommieLand.war. The era and its more dubious aspects still inspire heated debates and [[FlameWar flame wars]] today, with a degree of NeverLiveItDown thrown in by both sides.
* Most people weren't too happy, which led to The the Hungarian Revolution of 1956. Crushed by the Soviets.
The Soviets crushed it.
* After 1956, at least, Hungary went through some more low-key reforms, and became ironically known as "the happiest barracks in the camp", under "Goulash Communism". It was also during this time that they had a really, ''really'' good football team; they won three Olympic gold medals, but sadly never won a WorldCup (losing the 1954 final to West Germany in a match known in Germany as "The Miracle in Bern").
* After Following TheGreatPoliticsMessUp Hungary became a democracy and a member of NATO and EU; the most current government is conservative right with an absolute majority who are despite many unpopular (and some obviously cronyst) policies, could still win absolute majority this year (though some gerrymandering may have been involved) and its leader still being the most popular politician in the country. Many of the government's economic policies have sparked debate and controversy both in and outside the country [[InternetBackdraft and it's best to]] [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement leave it at that]]. All in all, the current local attitude towards politics is that of resigned apathy.
** The second most supported party is a far-right nationalist one, and nationalist, (which wasn't even on the map before 2008) which by the latest elections is supported by about 20% percent of the voting population, ahead of the slowly dying very unpopular (even on the left, as new leftist parties have begun to rise in their wake) socialists' 15%. More importantly, the party actually has a seat in the EU parliament, increasing the number of eurosceptics.



'''Random Notes on Language and Culture'''

* The Hungarian language is a Finno-Ugric one, related only to Finnish, Estonian and the Sami languages in Europe, as well as several minority languages in the European part of Russia (in fact the two languages that are most closely related to Hungarian, Khanty and Mansi, are spoken in the Asian part of Russia). This makes it ideal for FunWithForeignLanguages or AsLongAsItSoundsForeign. Check out [[Hu/{{Homepage}} the homepage in Hungarian]]. Or if you have [[VideoGame/SineMora Sine Mora]], all spoken dialogue is in Hungarian.
** And while most linguists agree on that, Hungarian nationalism sometimes prefers alignment with Turkic peoples. Check TheOtherWiki for some {{flamewar}}s.
** Some fringe [[ConspiracyTheorist Hungarian nationalists]] also claim a relationship with [[Myth/MesopotamianMythology Sumerians]] or the [[AncientAstronauts denizens of Sirius B]]. Research this on your own risk, though.

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'''Random Notes ==Notes on Language and Culture'''

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* The Hungarian language is a part of the Finno-Ugric one, family and related only to Finnish, Estonian and the Sami languages in Europe, as well as several minority languages in the European part of Russia (in fact Russia. In fact, the two languages that are most closely related to Hungarian, Khanty and Mansi, are spoken in the Asian part of Russia).Russia. This makes it ideal for FunWithForeignLanguages or AsLongAsItSoundsForeign. Check out [[Hu/{{Homepage}} the homepage in Hungarian]]. Or if you have [[VideoGame/SineMora Sine Mora]], all spoken All the dialogue in ''[[VideoGame/SineMora Sine Mora]]'' is in Hungarian.
** And while most linguists agree on that, Hungarian nationalism with the above, nationalistic Hungarians sometimes prefers alignment with prefer to give credit to the Turkic peoples. Check TheOtherWiki for some {{flamewar}}s.
** Some fringe [[ConspiracyTheorist Hungarian nationalists]] also claim a relationship with [[Myth/MesopotamianMythology Sumerians]] or the [[AncientAstronauts denizens of Sirius B]]. Research this on your own risk, though.risk.



*** Easy way to remember the difference: Bucha'''r'''est has an '''"R"''' in its name, and it belongs to the country that ''starts'' with an R: '''R'''omania.

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*** Easy way to remember the difference: Bucha'''r'''est has an '''"R"''' in its name, and it belongs to the country that ''starts'' with an R: '''R'''omania.''R''omania.



** Although the YaoiFangirl reputation seems to stem from Hungary's reputation for porn and sexual prowess.

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** Although the The YaoiFangirl reputation reputation, though, seems to stem from Hungary's reputation for porn and sexual prowess.
23rd Jul '15 6:52:02 PM Hugpocalypse
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->"''[[IncrediblyLamePun Are you hungry ?]]''"

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23rd Jul '15 6:51:42 PM Hugpocalypse
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28th Jun '15 4:00:43 AM Random888
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* This led to two large revolutions. Let's just say there were major cooperation errors between the Habsburgs and the Hungarian nobility (even though there were factions that sided with them). The one in 1848-49 led to the export of some fine military leaders to Europe and America (ever wondered from where the [[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons fire lord Kossuth]] comes or what is the meaning of the K. in Jerome K. Jerome?)

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* This led to two large revolutions. Let's just say there were major cooperation errors between the Habsburgs and the Hungarian nobility (even though there were factions that sided with them). The [[UsefulNotes/RevolutionsOf1848 one in 1848-49 1848-49]] led to the export of some fine military leaders to Europe and America (ever wondered from where the [[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons fire lord Kossuth]] comes or what is the meaning of the K. in Jerome K. Jerome?)



* Hungary and UsefulNotes/{{Austria}} meanwhile have what can be best described as a VitriolicBestBuds relationship with all its ups and downs. Despite whatever bad blood spilled over the centuries, such as in the 1848-49 revolts, ties between the two peoples still remain close if quiet.

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* Hungary and UsefulNotes/{{Austria}} meanwhile have what can be best described as a VitriolicBestBuds relationship with all its ups and downs. Despite whatever bad blood spilled over the centuries, such as in [[UsefulNotes/RevolutionsOf1848 the 1848-49 revolts, revolts]], ties between the two peoples still remain close if quiet.
2nd Apr '15 6:23:26 AM Patachou
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