History UsefulNotes / Homosexual

1st Jul '16 12:02:26 PM HighCrate
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Relatedly, you may hear some people claim that homosexuality, and indeed sexual orientation in general, is a ''choice''--as in, "You don't ''have'' to be gay, you just ''want'' to." This attitude has more grounding in theology than anything else. Modern UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} is one of those religions that believes homosexuality is a sin. Christianity also holds that sins are actions which a person chooses to commit. In theory, it is always possible to ''not'' sin (the execution is obviously a bit more suspect). So, if homosexuality is a sin, the ensuing InsaneTrollLogic is therefore that it must also be a choice. The alternative--that homosexuality is ''not'' a sin--has yet to be taken seriously in high Christian theology (though there has been a softening on the issue from "boots on the ground" priests who work closely with rank-and-file Christians, amongst them the reigning pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church, Pope Francis). Even worse, the Insane Troll Logic ''does'' have a kernel of truth in it: though one may have sexual appetites, it ''is'' possible to control them ("ImAManICantHelpIt" apologists notwithstanding). And the human mind is a very powerful thing; we can bend ourselves to almost any task, if we choose to. Hence the rise of "pray the gay away" programs that seek to actively recondition people into being straight. So, yes: FromACertainPointOfView, homosexuality is a choice. One ''can'' {{brainwash}} it away. The question of whether one ''should'' has yet to be settled definitively.

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Relatedly, you may hear some people claim that homosexuality, and indeed sexual orientation in general, is a ''choice''--as in, "You don't ''have'' to be gay, you just ''want'' to." This attitude has more grounding in theology than anything else. Modern Many modern branches of UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} is one of those religions believe that believes homosexuality is a sin. Christianity They also holds hold that sins are actions which a person chooses to commit. In theory, it is always possible to ''not'' sin (the execution is obviously a bit more suspect). So, if homosexuality is a sin, the ensuing InsaneTrollLogic CircularReasoning is therefore that it must also be a choice. The alternative--that homosexuality choice. There also exists a slightly more nuanced viewpoint claiming that having homosexual urges is ''not'' a sin--has yet to be taken seriously not, in high Christian theology (though there has been a softening itself, sinful, but that acting on the issue from "boots on the ground" priests who work closely with rank-and-file Christians, amongst them ''is'', which resolves the reigning pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church, Pope Francis). Even worse, the Insane Troll Logic ''does'' have a kernel of truth in it: though one may have sexual appetites, it ''is'' possible CircularReasoning (since actions definitely ''are'' choices), but for obvious reasons is usually seen as hair-splitting to control them ("ImAManICantHelpIt" apologists notwithstanding). And the human mind those outside those particular belief systems. All this is complicated by differences between official doctrine and how a very powerful thing; we can bend ourselves to almost any task, if we choose to. Hence the rise of "pray the gay away" programs that seek to actively recondition people into being straight. So, yes: FromACertainPointOfView, homosexuality particular faith is a choice. One ''can'' {{brainwash}} it away. The question of whether one ''should'' has yet to be settled definitively.
actually practiced by common practitioners.
25th Jun '16 9:37:02 AM alezfilm869
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The {{Squick}} factor is important too. Homosexuality is a concept many straights do not understand, and it's always been human nature to fear/hate the unknown. Men who engage in same-sex relations, especially those on the "receiving" end of anal intercourse, are considered unmanly in most modern cultures, and sick weirdos for not appreciating the fairer sex. Suggesting that a man is gay is often the worst insult against a man in any language. For lesbians, it's a little different but not by much. GirlOnGirlIsHot, and it's okay to ogle women making out, but seriously acknowledging a relationship between two women (ie, women who don't need love, or at least sexual fulfillment, from a man) is a no-go. And this is where you get cases of people trying to torture the gay out of men and {{rape|AndSwitch}} the gay out of women, and occasionally men.

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The {{Squick}} factor is important too. Homosexuality is a concept many straights do not understand, and it's always been human nature to fear/hate the unknown. Men who engage in same-sex relations, especially those on the "receiving" end of anal intercourse, are considered unmanly in most modern cultures, and sick weirdos for not appreciating the fairer sex. Suggesting that a man is gay is often the worst insult against a man in any language. For lesbians, it's a little different but not by much. GirlOnGirlIsHot, and it's okay to ogle women making out, but seriously acknowledging a relationship between two women (ie, women who don't need love, or at least sexual fulfillment, from a man) is a no-go. And this is where you get cases of people trying to torture [[RealMenGetShot torture]] the gay out of men and {{rape|AndSwitch}} the gay out of women, and occasionally men.
25th Jun '16 9:30:50 AM alezfilm869
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The {{Squick}} factor is important too. Homosexuality is a concept many straights do not understand, and it's always been human nature to fear/hate the unknown. Men who engage in same-sex relations, especially those on the "receiving" end of anal intercourse, are considered unmanly in most modern cultures, and sick weirdos for not appreciating the fairer sex. Suggesting that a man is gay is often the worst insult against a man in any language. For lesbians, it's a little different but not by much. GirlOnGirlIsHot, and it's okay to ogle women making out, but seriously acknowledging a relationship between two women (ie, women who don't need love, or at least sexual fulfillment, from a man) is a no-go. And this is where you get cases of people trying to beat the gay out of men and {{rape|AndSwitch}} the gay out of women, and occasionally men.

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The {{Squick}} factor is important too. Homosexuality is a concept many straights do not understand, and it's always been human nature to fear/hate the unknown. Men who engage in same-sex relations, especially those on the "receiving" end of anal intercourse, are considered unmanly in most modern cultures, and sick weirdos for not appreciating the fairer sex. Suggesting that a man is gay is often the worst insult against a man in any language. For lesbians, it's a little different but not by much. GirlOnGirlIsHot, and it's okay to ogle women making out, but seriously acknowledging a relationship between two women (ie, women who don't need love, or at least sexual fulfillment, from a man) is a no-go. And this is where you get cases of people trying to beat torture the gay out of men and {{rape|AndSwitch}} the gay out of women, and occasionally men.
11th May '16 1:47:19 PM slvstrChung
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Many animal species include homosexual members, just like humans do; and since it's such a widespread phenomenon, biologists theorize that homosexuality in a population must be an adaptive trait despite the stigma. When the population equals or exceeds the food supply, homosexual (and asexual) members of a population can contribute to the well-being of the community, but do not add more children. The end result is that the children of the straight and bi members of the population have a better environment and a better chance of surviving because there are more people to support each child. Infant mortality goes down, the next generation is smaller but healthier, and the genes for homosexuality are passed down to the next generation through their siblings, who are more likely to survive because of the improved environment. And, of course, there is nothing to necessarily prevent homosexual people from reproducing themselves, even if the opposite sex isn't their preference (after all, as mentioned above, it was socially enforced that all people, regardless of desire, would have children-women especially). In other species, homosexuality actually does have very relevant evolutionary traits: in social mammals, like dolphins and lions, same-sex behavior helps reduce aggression among males, while in birds like black swans and seagulls, studies show that more chicks survive if raised by couples composed of the physically stronger sex (males in swans, females in seagulls). If this theory is correct, improved acceptance of gays and lesbians should eventually help mitigate the problem of overpopulation in crowded countries. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiotropy Pleiotrophy]] may also be a factor, as the same gene can produce different phenotypes depending on other factors, including the carrier's biological sex. A direct correlation has often been found between a woman's ease of conceiving and carrying a child to term with the likelihood that her male relatives will be gay. So even if a gay man is not fathering any children himself, his mother, sisters, and female cousins will still ensure the continuation of the family line.

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Many animal species include homosexual members, just like humans do; and since it's such a widespread phenomenon, biologists theorize that homosexuality in a population must be an adaptive trait despite the stigma. When the population equals or exceeds the food supply, homosexual (and asexual) members of a population can contribute to the well-being of the community, but do not add more children. The end result is that the children of the straight and bi members of the population have a better environment and a better chance of surviving because there are more people to support each child. Infant mortality goes down, the next generation is smaller but healthier, and the genes for homosexuality are passed down to the next generation through their siblings, who are more likely to survive because of the improved environment. And, of course, there is nothing to necessarily prevent homosexual people from reproducing themselves, even if the opposite sex isn't their preference (after all, as mentioned above, it was socially enforced that all people, regardless of desire, would have children-women children--women especially). In other species, homosexuality actually does have very relevant evolutionary traits: in social mammals, like dolphins and lions, same-sex behavior helps reduce aggression among males, while in birds like black swans and seagulls, studies show that more chicks survive if raised by couples composed of the physically stronger sex (males in swans, females in seagulls). If this theory is correct, improved acceptance of gays and lesbians should eventually help mitigate the problem of overpopulation in crowded countries. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiotropy Pleiotrophy]] may also be a factor, as the same gene can produce different phenotypes depending on other factors, including the carrier's biological sex. A direct correlation has often been found between a woman's ease of conceiving and carrying a child to term with the likelihood that her male relatives will be gay. So even if a gay man is not fathering any children himself, his mother, sisters, and female cousins will still ensure the continuation of the family line.



* Your '''sexual orientation''' consists of who you are attracted to. Some people like men, some people like women, some people like both--again, there's a spectrum. Notice, however, that there's only two extremes to the spectrum: you can like men exclusively or you can like women exclusively, but there are no additional points regarding what kind of junk you've got between your legs. It is, in fact, a completely unrelated question.

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* Your '''sexual orientation''' consists of who you are attracted to. Some people like men, some people like women, some people like both--again, there's a spectrum. Notice, however, that there's only two extremes to the spectrum: you can like men exclusively or you can like women exclusively, but there are no additional points regarding what kind of junk you've got between your legs. It is, in fact, a completely unrelated question.



Today, being homosexual is also about politics. As with [[UsefulNotes/AmericanGunPolitics gun control]], homosexuality, its legality, its normality and its social acceptability is a SingleIssueWonk for a lot of people on both sides of the debate. In modern American politics, for example, it's valid to ask, "Would you vote for [[UsefulNotes/BarackObama an African-American presidential candidate]] just ''because'' he's African-American, regardless of his actual platform," because some people would ''actually answer No'' (or Yes) to that question. A politician's stand on homosexuality can be a similar deal-breaker.

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Today, being homosexual is also about politics. As with [[UsefulNotes/AmericanGunPolitics gun control]], homosexuality, its legality, its normality and its social acceptability is a SingleIssueWonk for a lot of people on both sides of the debate. In modern American politics, for example, it's valid to ask, "Would you vote for against [[UsefulNotes/BarackObama an African-American presidential candidate]] just ''because'' he's African-American, regardless of his actual platform," because some people would ''actually answer No'' (or Yes) Yes'' to that question.question (or, vice versa, that they will vote for this person on account of his race even though the voter disagrees with him on every major political standpoint). A politician's stand on homosexuality can be a similar deal-breaker.



The point is that this is an issue where personal morality, religion and politics all intersect, and if you talk about it openly someone might ask you for a political justification to what you had thought of as a purely religious opinion (or vice versa). To call it a mess would be an understatement.

The growing acceptance of homosexuality as a lifestyle ''does'' bring up one issue that, for good or ill, even open-minded straight people could consider problematic: the idea of single-gender parenting. What ''are'' the implications on childhood if a child [[HasTwoMommies Has Two Mommies or Daddies]]? Religious conservatives would have you believe that this will result in all manner of perversions, like brainwashing, bestiality and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking liberalism]]. What little scientific research has been done, however, suggests that if anything the opposite is true: homosexual parents tend to be more settled, more sane and more involved as parents--in general, better. Supporters like to point out that gay couples are somewhat less likely to encounter a SurprisePregnancy than are straight ones; they have to take very active steps before obtaining a child, and thus have plenty of time to prepare (or back out). They are also a great boon to the adoption industry, which itself is flourishing to a rather disturbing degree due to the three-hit combo of MissConception, TeenPregnancy and GoodGirlsAvoidAbortion in modern American schooling (promoted by, amusingly enough, religious conservatives). Thus far, claims that open homosexuality will bring about TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt are either being {{subverted|Trope}} or {{inverted|Trope}}.

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Relatedly, you may hear some people claim that homosexuality, and indeed sexual orientation in general, is a ''choice''--as in, "You don't ''have'' to be gay, you just ''want'' to." This attitude has more grounding in theology than anything else. Modern UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} is one of those religions that believes homosexuality is a sin. Christianity also holds that sins are actions which a person chooses to commit. In theory, it is always possible to ''not'' sin (the execution is obviously a bit more suspect). So, if homosexuality is a sin, the ensuing InsaneTrollLogic is therefore that it must also be a choice. The alternative--that homosexuality is ''not'' a sin--has yet to be taken seriously in high Christian theology (though there has been a softening on the issue from "boots on the ground" priests who work closely with rank-and-file Christians, amongst them the reigning pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church, Pope Francis). Even worse, the Insane Troll Logic ''does'' have a kernel of truth in it: though one may have sexual appetites, it ''is'' possible to control them ("ImAManICantHelpIt" apologists notwithstanding). And the human mind is a very powerful thing; we can bend ourselves to almost any task, if we choose to. Hence the rise of "pray the gay away" programs that seek to actively recondition people into being straight. So, yes: FromACertainPointOfView, homosexuality is a choice. One ''can'' {{brainwash}} it away. The question of whether one ''should'' has yet to be settled definitively.

The point is that this is an issue where personal morality, religion and politics all intersect, and if you talk about it openly someone might ask you for a political justification to what you had thought of as a purely religious opinion (or vice versa). To call it a mess would be an understatement.

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The growing acceptance of homosexuality as a lifestyle ''does'' bring up one issue that, for good or ill, even open-minded straight people could consider problematic: the idea of single-gender parenting. What ''are'' the implications on childhood if a child [[HasTwoMommies Has Two Mommies or Daddies]]? Religious conservatives would have you believe that this will result in all manner of perversions, like brainwashing, bestiality and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking liberalism]]. What little scientific research has been done, however, suggests that if anything the opposite is true: homosexual parents tend to be more settled, more sane and more involved as parents--in general, better. Supporters like to point out that gay couples are somewhat less likely to encounter be afflicted with a SurprisePregnancy than are straight ones; they have to take very active steps before obtaining a child, and thus have plenty of time to prepare (or back out). They are also a great boon to the adoption industry, which itself is flourishing to a rather disturbing degree due to the three-hit combo of MissConception, TeenPregnancy and GoodGirlsAvoidAbortion in modern American schooling (promoted by, amusingly enough, the same religious conservatives).conservatives who are terrified of gay marriage). Thus far, claims that open homosexuality will bring about TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt are either being {{subverted|Trope}} or {{inverted|Trope}}.
20th Jun '15 9:51:59 PM TheWatcher17
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The stereotype of the straight male is that he is a manly man... but it's possible to be an exclusively straight male but also swing over to the feminine side of the spectrum; stand-up comedian Creator/EddieIzzard, who has declared himself this sort of person, likes to call himself a "male lesbian". For the ladies, you have characters like Shannon Beiste from ''Series/{{Glee}}'', a rough and burly female football coach who has no sexual interest in other women. Neither have any desire to [[{{Transsexual}} change their sex]], it's just their personality. Furthermore, transsexuality has nothing to do with homosexuality. A female-to-male transsexual who dates women is not a lesbian, for example, but a straight man, and is just as likely to be gay (attracted to other men) or bi. This is also why the "TransEqualsGay" trope exists and gets bundled up in this issue, despite being loosely related at best: the media like to stereotype it as being some sort of "ultra-gay" condition. (Reality: it is not, and in fact is so unrelated that it has a completely separate Useful Notes article, [[{{UsefulNotes/Transgender}} found by clicking here]].)

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The stereotype of the straight male is that he is a manly man... but it's possible to be an exclusively straight male but also swing over to the feminine side of the spectrum; stand-up comedian Creator/EddieIzzard, who has declared himself this sort of person, likes to call himself a "male lesbian". For the ladies, you have characters like Shannon Beiste from ''Series/{{Glee}}'', a rough and burly female football coach who has no sexual interest in other women. Neither have any desire to [[{{Transsexual}} change their sex]], it's just their personality.personality (In the last season of Glee, however, Beiste transitioned into a man). Furthermore, transsexuality has nothing to do with homosexuality. A female-to-male transsexual who dates women is not a lesbian, for example, but a straight man, and is just as likely to be gay (attracted to other men) or bi. This is also why the "TransEqualsGay" trope exists and gets bundled up in this issue, despite being loosely related at best: the media like to stereotype it as being some sort of "ultra-gay" condition. (Reality: it is not, and in fact is so unrelated that it has a completely separate Useful Notes article, [[{{UsefulNotes/Transgender}} found by clicking here]].)
3rd Jun '15 12:33:32 AM RainbowPhoenix
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Many animal species include homosexual members, just like humans do; and since it's such a widespread phenomenon, biologists theorize that homosexuality in a population must be an adaptive trait despite the stigma. When the population equals or exceeds the food supply, homosexual (and asexual) members of a population can contribute to the well-being of the community, but do not add more children. The end result is that the children of the straight and bi members of the population have a better environment and a better chance of surviving because there are more people to support each child. Infant mortality goes down, the next generation is smaller but healthier, and the genes for homosexuality are passed down to the next generation through their siblings, who are more likely to survive because of the improved environment. And, of course, there is nothing to necessarily prevent homosexual people from reproducing themselves, even if the opposite sex isn't their preference (after all, as mentioned above, it was socially enforced that all people, regardless of desire, would have children-women especially). In other species, homosexuality actually does have very relevant evolutionary traits: in social mammals, like dolphins and lions, same-sex behavior helps reduce aggression among males, while in birds like black swans and seagulls, studies show that more chicks survive if raised by couples composed of the physically stronger sex (males in swans, females in seagulls). If this theory is correct, improved acceptance of gays and lesbians should eventually help mitigate the problem of overpopulation in crowded countries.

The {{Squick}} factor is important too. Homosexuality is a concept many straights do not understand, and it's always been human nature to fear/hate the unknown. Men who engage in same-sex relations, especially those on the "receiving" end of anal intercourse, are considered unmanly in most modern cultures, and sick weirdos for not appreciating the fairer sex. Suggesting that a man is gay is often the worst insult against a man in any language. For lesbians, it's a little different but not by much. GirlOnGirlIsHot, and it's okay to ogle women making out, but seriously acknowledging a relationship between two women (ie, women who don't need love, or at least sexual fulfillment, from a man) is a no-go. And this is where you get cases of people trying to beat the gay out of men and {{rape|AndSwitch}} the gay out of women.

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Many animal species include homosexual members, just like humans do; and since it's such a widespread phenomenon, biologists theorize that homosexuality in a population must be an adaptive trait despite the stigma. When the population equals or exceeds the food supply, homosexual (and asexual) members of a population can contribute to the well-being of the community, but do not add more children. The end result is that the children of the straight and bi members of the population have a better environment and a better chance of surviving because there are more people to support each child. Infant mortality goes down, the next generation is smaller but healthier, and the genes for homosexuality are passed down to the next generation through their siblings, who are more likely to survive because of the improved environment. And, of course, there is nothing to necessarily prevent homosexual people from reproducing themselves, even if the opposite sex isn't their preference (after all, as mentioned above, it was socially enforced that all people, regardless of desire, would have children-women especially). In other species, homosexuality actually does have very relevant evolutionary traits: in social mammals, like dolphins and lions, same-sex behavior helps reduce aggression among males, while in birds like black swans and seagulls, studies show that more chicks survive if raised by couples composed of the physically stronger sex (males in swans, females in seagulls). If this theory is correct, improved acceptance of gays and lesbians should eventually help mitigate the problem of overpopulation in crowded countries.

countries. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiotropy Pleiotrophy]] may also be a factor, as the same gene can produce different phenotypes depending on other factors, including the carrier's biological sex. A direct correlation has often been found between a woman's ease of conceiving and carrying a child to term with the likelihood that her male relatives will be gay. So even if a gay man is not fathering any children himself, his mother, sisters, and female cousins will still ensure the continuation of the family line.

The {{Squick}} factor is important too. Homosexuality is a concept many straights do not understand, and it's always been human nature to fear/hate the unknown. Men who engage in same-sex relations, especially those on the "receiving" end of anal intercourse, are considered unmanly in most modern cultures, and sick weirdos for not appreciating the fairer sex. Suggesting that a man is gay is often the worst insult against a man in any language. For lesbians, it's a little different but not by much. GirlOnGirlIsHot, and it's okay to ogle women making out, but seriously acknowledging a relationship between two women (ie, women who don't need love, or at least sexual fulfillment, from a man) is a no-go. And this is where you get cases of people trying to beat the gay out of men and {{rape|AndSwitch}} the gay out of women.
women, and occasionally men.
23rd Dec '14 12:29:11 PM TheUnsquished
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Today, being homosexual is also about politics. As with [[UsefulNotes/AmericanGunPolitics gun control]], homosexuality, its legality, its normality and its social acceptability is a SingleIssueWonk for a lot of people on both sides of the debate. In modern American politics, for example, it's valid to ask, "Would you vote for [[BarackObama an African-American presidential candidate]] just ''because'' he's African-American, regardless of his actual platform," because some people would ''actually answer No'' (or Yes) to that question. A politician's stand on homosexuality can be a similar deal-breaker.

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Today, being homosexual is also about politics. As with [[UsefulNotes/AmericanGunPolitics gun control]], homosexuality, its legality, its normality and its social acceptability is a SingleIssueWonk for a lot of people on both sides of the debate. In modern American politics, for example, it's valid to ask, "Would you vote for [[BarackObama [[UsefulNotes/BarackObama an African-American presidential candidate]] just ''because'' he's African-American, regardless of his actual platform," because some people would ''actually answer No'' (or Yes) to that question. A politician's stand on homosexuality can be a similar deal-breaker.
4th Sep '14 9:20:26 PM Bagpiper
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A "Homosexual" is a person, of either (any) gender, who is emotionally and sexually attracted exclusively to people of the same gender.

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A "Homosexual" is a person, of either (any) gender, who is emotionally and sexually attracted exclusively to people of the same gender.
9th Jul '14 8:09:38 AM Angeldeb82
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The {{Squick}} factor is important too. Homosexuality is a concept many straights do not understand, and it's always been human nature to fear/hate the unknown. Men who engage in same-sex relations, especially those on the "receiving" end of anal intercourse, are considered unmanly in most modern cultures, and sick weirdos for not appreciating the fairer sex. Suggesting that a man is gay is often the worst insult against a man in any language. For lesbians, it's a little different but not by much. GirlOnGirlIsHot, and it's okay to ogle women making out, but seriously acknowledging a relationship between two women (ie, women who don't need love, or at least sexual fulfillment, from a man) is a no-go. And this is where you get cases of people trying to beat the gay out of men and [[RapeAndSwitch rape]] the gay out of women.

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The {{Squick}} factor is important too. Homosexuality is a concept many straights do not understand, and it's always been human nature to fear/hate the unknown. Men who engage in same-sex relations, especially those on the "receiving" end of anal intercourse, are considered unmanly in most modern cultures, and sick weirdos for not appreciating the fairer sex. Suggesting that a man is gay is often the worst insult against a man in any language. For lesbians, it's a little different but not by much. GirlOnGirlIsHot, and it's okay to ogle women making out, but seriously acknowledging a relationship between two women (ie, women who don't need love, or at least sexual fulfillment, from a man) is a no-go. And this is where you get cases of people trying to beat the gay out of men and [[RapeAndSwitch rape]] {{rape|AndSwitch}} the gay out of women.



* Your '''biological sex''' is, simply put, the genitalia you were born with. Traditionally, sex is considered a binary conditon--you are either male or female, no exceptions--but sex is now seen as a spectrum, with "intersex" in between and consisting of people who are born with characteristics of both male and female persons.

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* Your '''biological sex''' is, simply put, the genitalia you were born with. Traditionally, sex is considered a binary conditon--you condition--you are either male or female, no exceptions--but sex is now seen as a spectrum, with "intersex" in between and consisting of people who are born with characteristics of both male and female persons.



The growing acceptance of homosexuality as a lifestyle ''does'' bring up one issue that, for good or ill, even open-minded straight people could consider problematic: the idea of single-gender parenting. What ''are'' the implications on childhood if a child HasTwoMommies or HasTwoDaddies? Religious conservatives would have you believe that this will result in all manner of perversions, like brainwashing, bestiality and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking liberalism]]. What little scientific research has been done, however, suggests that if anything the opposite is true: homosexual parents tend to be more settled, more sane and more involved as parents--in general, better. Supporters like to point out that gay couples are somewhat less likely to encounter a SurprisePregnancy than are straight ones; they have to take very active steps before obtaining a child, and thus have plenty of time to prepare (or back out). They are also a great boon to the adoption industry, which itself is flourishing to a rather disturbing degree due to the three-hit combo of MissConception, TeenPregnancy and GoodGirlsAvoidAbortion in modern American schooling (promoted by, amusingly enough, religious conservatives). Thus far, claims that open homosexuality will bring about TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt are either being [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] or [[InvertedTrope inverted]].

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The growing acceptance of homosexuality as a lifestyle ''does'' bring up one issue that, for good or ill, even open-minded straight people could consider problematic: the idea of single-gender parenting. What ''are'' the implications on childhood if a child HasTwoMommies [[HasTwoMommies Has Two Mommies or HasTwoDaddies? Daddies]]? Religious conservatives would have you believe that this will result in all manner of perversions, like brainwashing, bestiality and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking liberalism]]. What little scientific research has been done, however, suggests that if anything the opposite is true: homosexual parents tend to be more settled, more sane and more involved as parents--in general, better. Supporters like to point out that gay couples are somewhat less likely to encounter a SurprisePregnancy than are straight ones; they have to take very active steps before obtaining a child, and thus have plenty of time to prepare (or back out). They are also a great boon to the adoption industry, which itself is flourishing to a rather disturbing degree due to the three-hit combo of MissConception, TeenPregnancy and GoodGirlsAvoidAbortion in modern American schooling (promoted by, amusingly enough, religious conservatives). Thus far, claims that open homosexuality will bring about TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt are either being [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] {{subverted|Trope}} or [[InvertedTrope inverted]].
{{inverted|Trope}}.
25th Jun '14 10:06:36 PM slvstrChung
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[[AC:Gender Politics]]
The concept of gayness or straightness seems to be pretty simple, on the surface, but there's actually a lot of complication to it. What "does it say about behavior?, about dress codes, about friends, about... all the other questions of life besides where you put your dick". Instead of answering those complications, we're going to go on a brief lecture about some traits that all humans have. It may seem irrelevant right now, but trust us, it's not.

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[[AC:Gender Politics]]
[[AC:Expression and Gender Politics]]

The concept of gayness or straightness seems to be pretty simple, on the surface, but there's actually a lot of complication to it. What "does does it say about behavior?, about dress codes, about friends, about... all the other questions of life besides where "where you put your dick". Instead of answering addressing those complications, we're going to go on a brief lecture about some traits that all humans have. It may seem irrelevant right now, but trust us, it's not.



Does all this seem complicated? Well, keep in mind that this is a ''simplified'' version of the business. Our little discussion doesn't include the option of having ''no'' place on the spectrum: having real life BarbieDollAnatomy and being sexless; being androgynous and having AmbiguousGender; or displaying {{asexuality}} and not being attracted to men ''or'' women. Additionally, it glosses over the distinction of the differences between romantic attraction and sexual attraction. It's perfectly possible to think men fall into the BrainlessBeauty category--fun to sleep with, but no good (for you) in relationships. For more on this subject, see the [[http://itspronouncedmetrosexual.com/2012/03/the-genderbread-person-v2-0/ Genderbread Person]] discussion.

Now, the lecture's over, and you may be thinking, "Why did we go through all the trouble of learning that?" Simple: In modern media, '''''those three separate traits are often believed to be one single trait.''''' If you have a penis, you must be the kind of person who likes AmericanFootball and belching--period. If you like flowers and sort by clothes by color, you ''must'' own a vagina. And, if you 1) have a penis and 2) like to have sex with people who also have penises, you ''must'' be effeminate and foppish.

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Does all this seem complicated? Well, keep in mind that this is a ''simplified'' version of the business.conversation. Our little discussion doesn't include the option of having ''no'' place on the spectrum: having real life BarbieDollAnatomy and being sexless; being androgynous and having AmbiguousGender; or displaying {{asexuality}} and not being attracted to men ''or'' women. Additionally, it glosses over the distinction of the differences between romantic attraction and sexual attraction. It's perfectly possible to think men fall into the BrainlessBeauty category--fun to sleep with, but no good (for you) in relationships. For more on this subject, see the [[http://itspronouncedmetrosexual.com/2012/03/the-genderbread-person-v2-0/ Genderbread Person]] discussion.

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discussion. This concludes our lecture.

Now that
the lecture's over, and you may be thinking, "Why did we go through all the trouble of learning that?" Simple: In modern media, '''''those three separate traits are often believed to be one single trait.''''' If you have a penis, you must be the kind of person who likes AmericanFootball and belching--period. If you like flowers and sort by clothes by color, you ''must'' own a vagina. And, if you 1) have a penis and 2) like to have sex with people who also have penises, you ''must'' be effeminate and foppish.



It's possible to be an exclusively straight male but also swing over to the feminine side of the spectrum; stand-up comedian Creator/EddieIzzard, who has declared himself this sort of person, likes to call himself a "male lesbian". For the ladies, you have characters like Shannon Beiste from ''Series/{{Glee}}'', a rough and burly female football coach who has no sexual interest in other women. Neither have any desire to [[{{Transsexual}} change their sex]], it's just their personality. Furthermore, transsexuality has nothing to do with homosexuality. A female-to-male transsexual who dates women is not a lesbian, for example, but a straight man, and is just as likely to be gay (attracted to other men) or bi. This is also why the "TransEqualsGay" trope exists and gets bundled up in this issue, despite being loosely related at best: the media like to stereotype it as being some sort of "ultra-gay" condition. (Reality: it is not, and in fact is so unrelated that it has a completely separate Useful Notes article, [[{{UsefulNotes/Transgender}} found by clicking here]].)

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It's The stereotype of the straight male is that he is a manly man... but it's possible to be an exclusively straight male but also swing over to the feminine side of the spectrum; stand-up comedian Creator/EddieIzzard, who has declared himself this sort of person, likes to call himself a "male lesbian". For the ladies, you have characters like Shannon Beiste from ''Series/{{Glee}}'', a rough and burly female football coach who has no sexual interest in other women. Neither have any desire to [[{{Transsexual}} change their sex]], it's just their personality. Furthermore, transsexuality has nothing to do with homosexuality. A female-to-male transsexual who dates women is not a lesbian, for example, but a straight man, and is just as likely to be gay (attracted to other men) or bi. This is also why the "TransEqualsGay" trope exists and gets bundled up in this issue, despite being loosely related at best: the media like to stereotype it as being some sort of "ultra-gay" condition. (Reality: it is not, and in fact is so unrelated that it has a completely separate Useful Notes article, [[{{UsefulNotes/Transgender}} found by clicking here]].)
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The point is simply thus: don't confuse sex, gender and sexuality. They're none of them the same thing... and some of the most interesting people (and characters) are the ones that combine them in unusual or unconventional ways.
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