History UsefulNotes / GunSafety

21st Apr '16 5:19:13 AM erforce
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** For your reference, Linda Hamilton was subjected to permanent hearing loss due to use of inadequate ear protection on the set of {{Film/Terminator2}} (The offending scene is the one where they're escaping the mental hospital in an elevator). Don't be that guy who says "WHAT?" to everything because you failed to learn from her mistake.

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** For your reference, Linda Hamilton was subjected to permanent hearing loss due to use of inadequate ear protection on the set of {{Film/Terminator2}} (The ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' (the offending scene is the one where they're escaping the mental hospital in an elevator). Don't be that guy who says "WHAT?" to everything because you failed to learn from her mistake.
15th Apr '16 2:32:10 PM Tdarcos
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15th Apr '16 2:30:29 PM Tdarcos
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** Be aware of your state's or nation-state's self-defence laws. In the United States, regardless of which state, pleading self-defense does not magically equal a "get out of jail free card," in other words, just because you claim it was self-defense doesn't mean you're off the hook. Local police and/or sheriffs will conduct an investigation, during which you almost certainly will be taken into custody [[note]]About the only time that you won't be taken is in cases of exceptionally obvious self defense, e.g. you're in your own home, it's 4 o'clock in the morning and the deceased has a long record of home invsdions; in almost every other case you will be detained by the police and brought in for questioning[[/note]], to determine if the evidence indicates you were justified. If so, you will be released. If not, you will be prosecuted for murder or attempted murder and will have to prove in court that you genuinely feared for your life and didn't see other options. For example, a murder charge may just be downgraded to manslaughter charge.[[note]]The legal term for this is "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperfect_self-defense imperfect self-defense]]".[[/note]]

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** Be aware of your state's or nation-state's self-defence laws. In the United States, regardless of which state, pleading self-defense does not magically equal a "get out of jail free card," in other words, just because you claim it was self-defense doesn't mean you're off the hook. Local police and/or sheriffs will conduct an investigation, during which you almost certainly will be taken into custody [[note]]About the only time that you won't be taken is in cases of exceptionally obvious self defense, e.g. you're in your own home, it's 4 o'clock in the morning morning, you shot them while they were in the middle of your living room, your door was broken into with some device (like a crowbar) which is near the decedent, their fingerprints are on it, and the deceased has a long record of home invsdions; invasions; in almost every other case you will be detained by the police and brought in for questioning[[/note]], to determine if the evidence indicates you were justified. If so, you will be released. If not, you will be prosecuted for murder or manslaughter, or if they didn't die, attempted murder murder, and will have to prove in court that you genuinely feared for your life and didn't see other options. For example, a murder charge may just be downgraded to manslaughter charge.[[note]]The legal term for this is "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperfect_self-defense imperfect self-defense]]".[[/note]]



** Firearms are not [[OnlyAFleshWound reliably capable of causing non-lethal injury]]. Pulling the trigger means that you have decided you are willing to accept the legal and moral ramifications of killing the person or animal you are firing at. This bears repeating: ''A firearm is a lethal weapon. Never,'' '''under any circumstances,''' ''point a firearm, loaded or unloaded, at someone you are not willing to kill.''

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** Firearms are not [[OnlyAFleshWound reliably capable of causing non-lethal injury]]. Pulling the trigger means that you have decided you are willing to accept the legal and moral ramifications of killing the person or animal you are firing at. This bears repeating: ''A firearm is a lethal weapon. Never,'' '''under any circumstances,''' ''point a firearm, loaded or unloaded, at someone (or something) you are not willing to kill.kill or destroy.''



** The size or weight of a gun ''does not tell you'' how much kick it has. (This is humorously and ridiculously [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] in the movie ''Film/MenInBlack'' where K has an alien weapon about the size of a .357 magnum with very little recoil, while Will Smith's character has "The Cricket," a firearm about the size of a small two-shot derringer with the recoil of a field cannon.) The truth is closer to the opposite, in fact: if two guns fire the same round, the larger or heaver weapon will be more stable. This is especially important with non-shoulder fired guns (which the unaware/inexperienced user is more prone to drop) and automatic or automatic mode guns (which may ''keep firing'' even if the shooter's aim is lost or the gun is dropped). That being said, there ''are'' certain guns that are both very heavy and kick like a mule, with [[HandCannon Desert Eagles]] being particularly infamous for this; when dealing with guns like that, be extra cautious with anyone who wishes to test them out despite having never fired one before, ''especially'' if they're small and light in build. The kickback is enough to prove a serious problem even for large, strong individuals - more diminutive folks run the risk of literally being knocked off their feet or fracturing bones from it.

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** The size or weight of a gun ''does not tell you'' how much kick it has. (This is humorously and ridiculously [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] in the movie ''Film/MenInBlack'' where K has an alien weapon about the size of a .357 magnum with very little recoil, while Will Smith's character has "The Cricket," a firearm about the size of a small two-shot derringer with the recoil of a field cannon.) The truth is closer to the opposite, in fact: if two guns fire the same round, the larger or heaver weapon will be more stable. This is especially important with non-shoulder fired guns (which the unaware/inexperienced user is more prone to drop) and automatic or automatic mode guns (which may ''keep firing'' even if the shooter's aim is lost or the gun is dropped).dropped. The scene in ''Film/TrueLies'' where Jamie Lee Curtiss' character drops an UZI when firing it and being surprised by the recoil, and the gun falling down a flight of stairs but still firing, is not really that far from what could happen). That being said, there ''are'' certain guns that are both very heavy and kick like a mule, with [[HandCannon Desert Eagles]] being particularly infamous for this; when dealing with guns like that, be extra cautious with anyone who wishes to test them out despite having never fired one before, ''especially'' if they're small and light in build. The kickback is enough to prove a serious problem even for large, strong individuals - more diminutive folks run the risk of literally being knocked off their feet or fracturing bones from it.



** If you are wearing costumes with unloaded or prop guns or using prop guns in filming, make sure you have proper permits for filming, that when ''not'' on camera all weapons have proper safety bonding and are checked into storage, and that nothing is carried off set. Consider leaving out guns for cosplay and Halloween costuming, where you may have to enter public areas, because authenticity isn't worth your life.

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** If you are wearing costumes with unloaded or prop guns or using prop guns in filming, make sure you have proper permits for filming, that when ''not'' on camera all weapons have proper safety bonding and are checked into storage, and that nothing is carried off set. Consider leaving out excluding guns for cosplay and Halloween costuming, where you may have to enter public areas, because authenticity isn't worth your life.




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! What to do if it may be necessary to use a weapon

Let's say that you're in a dangerous situation, you have a weapon, and may have to use it. What should you do?

1. If it is at all possible, call the police first. If nothing else, the 9-1-1 recording will be useful if you're heard saying, "Put the gun down, the police are coming and if you point it at me I'll shoot."
2. In cases where the other party might not know you're armed, you want to have the weapon loaded and ready, especially if it's noisy. Cocking a shotgun will immediately give away your location and if they are armed, gives them a place to aim. If you're going to have to use it defensively, have the shotgun already loaded and ready for use. The last thing you want to have to do is rack the slide, which could give away your position, in which case it may very well ''be'' the last thing you ever do.
3. After the incident, call the police if you haven't already. You want to notify them of what you look like so they don't shoot you, mistaking you for the perp.
4. Put your weapon down and away from yourself for the same reason as the previous point: so the cops don't think you're the perp and shoot you. Keep your hands in plain sight.

15th Apr '16 1:47:37 PM Tdarcos
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# Never point a gun at anything or anyone unless it is your absolute intention to pull the trigger.

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# Never point a gun at anything or anyone unless it is your absolute intention to pull the trigger. Another version of this is "Never point a gun at anything you're not willing to destroy."



** Be aware of your state's or nation-state's self-defence laws. In the United States, regardless of which state, pleading self-defense does not magically equal a "get out of jail free card," in other words, just because you claim it was self-defense doesn't mean you're off the hook. Local police and/or sheriffs will conduct an investigation, during which you may be taken into custody, to determine if the evidence indicates you were justified. If so, you will be released. If not, you will be prosecuted for murder or attempted murder and will have to prove in court that you genuinely feared for your life and didn't see other options. For example, a murder charge may just be downgraded to manslaughter charge.[[note]]The legal term for this is "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperfect_self-defense imperfect self-defense]]".[[/note]]

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** Be aware of your state's or nation-state's self-defence laws. In the United States, regardless of which state, pleading self-defense does not magically equal a "get out of jail free card," in other words, just because you claim it was self-defense doesn't mean you're off the hook. Local police and/or sheriffs will conduct an investigation, during which you may almost certainly will be taken into custody, custody [[note]]About the only time that you won't be taken is in cases of exceptionally obvious self defense, e.g. you're in your own home, it's 4 o'clock in the morning and the deceased has a long record of home invsdions; in almost every other case you will be detained by the police and brought in for questioning[[/note]], to determine if the evidence indicates you were justified. If so, you will be released. If not, you will be prosecuted for murder or attempted murder and will have to prove in court that you genuinely feared for your life and didn't see other options. For example, a murder charge may just be downgraded to manslaughter charge.[[note]]The legal term for this is "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperfect_self-defense imperfect self-defense]]".[[/note]]
1st Apr '16 5:19:50 PM BiffJr
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** In the USA in 2012, a man who had a gun and a (firearm) 'Carry(ing) Permit' was trying to stop a man with a gun trying to murder random people in shopping centre. He was criticised for not shooting the madman sooner, but he was merely waiting until he could kill him with no danger of hitting the people behind him.
16th Mar '16 5:52:57 PM Bowtrain
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'''''Disclaimer''': This page has been provided for informational purposes only. The authors of TV Tropes can take no responsibility for any accidents that may result should you neglect proper training on the assumption that reading this was sufficient.''

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'''''Disclaimer''': This page has been provided for informational purposes only. The authors of TV Tropes can take no responsibility for any accidents that may result should you neglect proper training on the assumption that reading this was sufficient.''
'' [[note]] It's good to read this, but go take a hunter safety course already. It's only $10 or so.[[/note]]
14th Mar '16 1:52:02 AM eroock
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-->-- ''Anybody who has had more than one probably shouldn't have a gun.''

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-->-- ''Anybody Anybody who has had more than one probably shouldn't have a gun.''
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14th Mar '16 1:51:43 AM eroock
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->A common rule of gunsmiths is that there are only two classes of firearms owners: those who ''have had'' an accidental discharge, and those who ''will have'' an accidental discharge.
-->''Anybody who has had more than one probably shouldn't have a gun.''

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->A ->''"A common rule of gunsmiths is that there are only two classes of firearms owners: those who ''have had'' an accidental discharge, and those who ''will have'' an accidental discharge.
-->''Anybody
discharge."''
-->-- ''Anybody
who has had more than one probably shouldn't have a gun.''
1st Mar '16 11:19:27 PM RevolutionStone
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## Never assume the safety will save you from disobaying the other rules on this list. Even if you're certain the safety is on the truth is you might have forgotten to actually turn it on. Even if it is actually on it's a mechanical device that can fail.

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## Never assume the safety will save you from disobaying disobeying the other rules on this list. Even if you're certain the safety is on the truth is you might have forgotten to actually turn it on. Even if it is actually on it's a mechanical device that can fail.
1st Mar '16 12:19:06 PM HasturHasturHastur
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** Additionally, if you choose to open carry, don't be a dick. There are lots of stereotypes about open carry proponents, almost all of them negative, and subverting them goes a long way towards public acceptance of the practice. First off, don't be an attention whore - people can already see that you're carrying, you don't need to prance around showing it off or take a selfie or group photo every ten minutes. Carry clean, too - holstered or zipped is fine, but carrying longarm at low ready is completely unacceptable, makes cops and civilians nervous, and makes ''you'' look like a bellicose douchebag. Above all, however, ''be nice''. Be polite, be personable, and be willing to acquiesce or compromise for the comfort of others if needed. If asked by a business owner or employee to leave your weapon outside or leave altogether, do so and do not become argumentative or belligerent. If insulted by someone on the street, don't respond with rudeness or aggression. Kill them with kindness and make them look like an unreasonable asshole. Concealed carry is a polarizing issue that many people carry strong opinions about, and the least you can do is represent your side well.

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** Additionally, if you choose to open carry, don't be a dick. There are lots of stereotypes about open carry proponents, almost all of them negative, and subverting them goes a long way towards public acceptance of the practice. First off, don't be an attention whore - people can already see that you're carrying, you don't need to prance around showing it off or take a selfie or group photo every ten minutes. Carry clean, too - holstered or zipped is fine, but carrying longarm at low ready is completely unacceptable, makes cops and civilians nervous, and makes ''you'' look like a bellicose douchebag.douchebag, and is just completely unacceptable in general. Above all, however, ''be nice''. Be polite, be personable, and be willing to acquiesce or compromise for the comfort of others if needed. If asked by a business owner or employee to leave your weapon outside or leave altogether, do so and do not become argumentative or belligerent. If insulted by someone on the street, don't respond with rudeness or aggression. Kill them with kindness and make them look like an unreasonable asshole. Concealed Open carry is a polarizing issue that many people carry strong opinions about, and the least you can do is represent your side well.
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