History UsefulNotes / GunSafety

25th Mar '17 7:06:06 AM Tightwire
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* Sometimes guns need to be moved from one place to another, and you need to keep them safe then, too, just as much as you do when they're in storage. The number of ways for a gun misfire to happen is uncountable, and the only way to prevent it is to ''not have a gun.'' If you need to move your gun, you should buy a special transport case to hold it in on the way. Don't just dump it in your backpack. No matter what you pay for the case, your hospital bills would probably have cost more - and so would your funeral.

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* Sometimes guns need to be moved from one place to another, another - when going on a hunting trip, for example - and you need to keep them safe then, too, just as much as you do when they're in storage. The number of ways for a gun misfire to happen is uncountable, and the only way to prevent it is to ''not have a gun.'' If you need to move your gun, you should buy a special transport case to hold it in while you're on the way. Don't just dump it in your backpack. No matter what you pay for the case, your hospital bills would probably have cost more be higher - and so would your funeral.
funeral. There are just too many stories of people just moving their gun from one place to another with no intention of firing at all, when a misfire has occurred.
25th Mar '17 6:56:16 AM Tightwire
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* Sometimes guns need to be moved from one place to another, and you need to keep them safe then, too, just as much as you do when they're in storage. An experienced gun user and his friend were going hunting in their truck, the rifles in the back, and the dogs too. The dogs became excitable and one of them managed to both disengage the safety and fire a round - one which the man didn't realise was in there - into his leg. If there's one lesson to be learned, it's that the number of ways for a gun misfire to happen is uncountable, and the only way to prevent it is to ''not have a gun.'' If you need to move your gun, you should buy a special transport case to hold it in on the way. Don't just dump it in your backpack. No matter what you pay, your hospital bills would probably have cost more - and so would your funeral.

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* Sometimes guns need to be moved from one place to another, and you need to keep them safe then, too, just as much as you do when they're in storage. An experienced gun user and his friend were going hunting in their truck, the rifles in the back, and the dogs too. The dogs became excitable and one of them managed to both disengage the safety and fire a round - one which the man didn't realise was in there - into his leg. If there's one lesson to be learned, it's that the number of ways for a gun misfire to happen is uncountable, and the only way to prevent it is to ''not have a gun.'' If you need to move your gun, you should buy a special transport case to hold it in on the way. Don't just dump it in your backpack. No matter what you pay, pay for the case, your hospital bills would probably have cost more - and so would your funeral.
25th Mar '17 6:52:27 AM Tightwire
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* Sometimes guns need to be moved from one place to another, and you need to keep them safe then, too, just as much as you do when they're in storage. An experienced gun user and his friend were going hunting in their truck, the rifles in the back, and the dogs too. The dogs became excitable and one of them managed to both disengage the safety and fire a round - one which the man didn't realise was in there - into his leg. If there's one lesson to be learned, it's that the number of ways for a gun misfire to happen is uncountable, and the only way to prevent it is to ''not have a gun.'' If you need to move your gun, you should buy a special transport case to hold it in on the way. Don't just dump it in your backpack. No matter what you pay, your hospital bills would probably have cost more - and so would your funeral.
13th Feb '17 7:51:07 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Anyone who "just wants a gun, any gun" should be assumed to possibly be having bad intentions. Hunters, sport shooters/marksmanship/target shooters, and even most people looking for self-defense weapons usually know ''exactly'' what type of weapon they need/want and have researched it in advance, whereas people who are suicidal or homicidal often don't care, because any gun can kill. Of course, a more GenreSavvy suicidal person or killer might use one of these as a glib excuse - in which case, be aware if the gun matches the alleged need. If it doesn't, that's even more of a red flag than "oh just give me anything." This is mostly limited to countries with unregulated gun trade like the USA, as in European jurisdictions any gun license released is specific to the category of weapon - as in rifles or shotguns for the hunter, handgun for self-defense, specific types of rifle or pistol for the target shooter and so on.

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** Anyone who "just wants a gun, any gun" should be assumed to possibly be having bad intentions. Hunters, sport shooters/marksmanship/target shooters, and even most people looking for self-defense weapons usually know ''exactly'' what type of weapon they need/want and have researched it in advance, whereas people who are suicidal or homicidal often don't care, because any gun can kill. Of course, a more GenreSavvy savvy suicidal person or killer might use one of these as a glib excuse - in which case, be aware if the gun matches the alleged need. If it doesn't, that's even more of a red flag than "oh just give me anything." This is mostly limited to countries with unregulated gun trade like the USA, as in European jurisdictions any gun license released is specific to the category of weapon - as in rifles or shotguns for the hunter, handgun for self-defense, specific types of rifle or pistol for the target shooter and so on.
11th Jan '17 5:49:36 AM jtgibson
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** Additionally, if you choose to open carry, don't be a dick. There are lots of stereotypes about open carry proponents, almost all of them negative, and subverting them goes a long way towards public acceptance of the practice. First off, don't be an attention whore - people can already see that you're carrying, you don't need to prance around showing it off or take a selfie or group photo every ten minutes. Carry clean, too - holstered or zipped is fine, but carrying longarm at low ready makes cops and civilians nervous, makes ''you'' look like a bellicose douchebag, and is just completely unacceptable in general. Above all, however, ''be nice''. Be polite, be personable, and be willing to acquiesce or compromise for the comfort of others if needed. If asked by a business owner or employee to leave your weapon outside or leave altogether, do so and do not become argumentative or belligerent. If insulted by someone on the street, don't respond with rudeness or aggression. Kill them with kindness and make them look like an unreasonable asshole. Open carry is a polarizing issue that many people carry strong opinions about, and the least you can do is represent your side well.

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** Additionally, if you choose to open carry, don't be a dick. There are lots of stereotypes about open carry proponents, almost all of them negative, and subverting them goes a long way towards public acceptance of the practice. First off, don't be an attention whore - people can already see that you're carrying, you don't need to prance around showing it off or take a selfie or group photo every ten minutes. Carry clean, too - holstered or zipped is fine, but carrying longarm at low ready makes cops and civilians nervous, makes ''you'' look like a bellicose douchebag, and is just completely unacceptable in general. Above all, however, ''be nice''. Be polite, be personable, and be willing to acquiesce or compromise for the comfort of others if needed. If asked by a business owner or employee to leave your weapon outside or leave altogether, do so and do not become argumentative or belligerent. If insulted by someone on the street, don't respond with rudeness or aggression. Kill them with kindness (that is to say, figuratively) and make them ''them'' look like an unreasonable asshole. Open carry is a polarizing issue that many people carry strong opinions about, and the least you can do is represent your side well.
18th Dec '16 5:36:48 PM Dialh
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* In the FamousLastWords of Terry Kath of Chicago fame: [[TemptingFate "Don't worry, guys. It isn't even loaded. See?"]][[labelnote:context]]Kath was cleaning his gun and had removed the magazine. He was goofing around with the gun and put it to his temple. He had intended to dry-fire it as a joke, but did not realize that even though the magazine had been removed, there was still a cartridge chambered and ready to fire.[[/labelnote]] (Lest you laugh: [[http://161.203.16.4/d20t9/143619.pdf this 1991 study]] found 23 percent of fatal gun accidents resulted from people treating loaded guns as unloaded.[[labelnote:Dallas Gun and Knife Show Jan 5th 2014]] Think your gun is unloaded? Here's a [[http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/why-gun-accidents-in-america-are-so.html jar full of bullets]] the Dallas Gun and Knife show found in "unloaded" guns in their Jan 5th 2014 show[[/labelnote]])

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* In the FamousLastWords of Terry Kath of Chicago fame: [[TemptingFate "Don't worry, guys. It isn't even loaded. See?"]][[labelnote:context]]Kath was cleaning his gun and had removed the magazine. He was goofing around with the gun and put it to his temple. He had intended to dry-fire it as a joke, but did not realize that even though the magazine had been removed, there was still a cartridge chambered and ready to fire.[[/labelnote]] (Lest you laugh: [[http://161.203.16.4/d20t9/143619.pdf this 1991 study]] found 23 percent of fatal gun accidents resulted from people treating loaded guns as unloaded.[[labelnote:Dallas Gun and Knife Show Jan 5th 2014]] Think your gun is unloaded? Here's a [[http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/why-gun-accidents-in-america-are-so.html [[https://dallasnews.imgix.net/cbc_dallas_0110met005.JPG?w=724&h=500&auto=format&q=60&fit=clip jar full of bullets]] the Dallas Gun and Knife show found in "unloaded" guns in their Jan 5th 2014 show[[/labelnote]])
20th Nov '16 12:01:35 PM BiffJr
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** Even if you ''don't'' have a weapon, never reach into your clothes unless directed or under your car seat around police - there have been too many unpleasant incidents of jumpy, untrained cops making rash assumptions. It shouldn't be like that, but it is - guns can grant the holder with a false sense of security and power - and it's something that could just as easily happen if ''you're'' the one with the gun.

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** Even if you ''don't'' have a weapon, never reach into your clothes unless directed or under your car seat around police - there have been too many unpleasant incidents of jumpy, untrained cops jumpy copps making rash assumptions. It shouldn't be like that, but it is - guns can grant the holder with a false sense of security and power - and it's something that could just as easily happen if ''you're'' the one with the gun.
30th Sep '16 11:02:02 AM PatPayne
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* Obviously firing blanks is a different situation, although you should be aware that discharging a firearm in city limits is often a crime whatever the type of ammunition. If your line of work deals with discharging firearms within an earshot of the public, you ''must'' call your local police department and inform them what you're doing. However blanks are ''not'' guaranteed safe. There have been numerous cases of individuals being killed by the discharged wadding from a blank cartridge, such as the late actor Jon-Erik Hexum. Treat blanks the way you would a live round.

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* Obviously firing blanks is a different situation, although you should be aware that discharging a firearm in city limits is often a crime whatever the type of ammunition. If your line of work deals with discharging firearms within an earshot of the public, you ''must'' call your local police department and inform them what you're doing. However blanks are ''not'' guaranteed safe. There have been numerous cases of individuals being killed by the discharged wadding from a blank cartridge, such as the late actor Jon-Erik Hexum.Hexum, or [[Film/TheCrow Brandon Lee]]. Treat blanks the way you would a live round.
24th Sep '16 8:31:55 PM PixelKnight
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# Treat a gun as if it's always loaded, especially when it's not. You'd be surprised how many people were buried after being shot by a gun they or the person who shot them ''knew'' was empty. Even if you just took it apart and reassembled it and know that it's 100% unquestionably empty, it's loaded. If nothing else, it keeps you in a good habit.\\

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# Treat a gun as if it's always loaded, especially when it's not."not". You'd be surprised how many people were buried after being shot by a gun they or the person who shot them ''knew'' was empty. Even if you just took it apart and reassembled it and know that it's 100% unquestionably empty, it's loaded. If nothing else, it keeps you in a good habit.\\
10th Sep '16 9:27:12 AM CalvinSchwa
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In (way too many) gun stores they have a large closed pickle jar on the counter with pieces of ammunition inside. No, these are not free samples. They are the rounds that are discovered in guns that people bring in to sell or have maintenance or repairs on that the weapon's owner ''assured the sales clerk they checked the weapon and it was was empty''.

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In (way too many) gun stores they have a large closed pickle jar on the counter with pieces of ammunition inside. No, these are not free samples. They are the rounds that are discovered in guns that people bring in to sell or have maintenance or repairs on that the weapon's owner ''assured the sales clerk they checked the weapon and it was was empty''.
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