History UsefulNotes / Gnosticism

18th Feb '17 11:18:40 PM Dravencour
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** Special mention goes to [[spoiler:''Persona 5'', whose final boss is Yaldabaoth, the Demiurge]], and [[spoiler:''Shin Megami Tensei 4 Apocalypse'', which all but outright confirms that YHVH is the Demiurge to the Great Will's True God]].

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** Special mention goes to [[spoiler:''Persona 5'', [[spoiler:''VideoGame/Persona5'', whose final boss is Yaldabaoth, the Demiurge]], and [[spoiler:''Shin Megami Tensei 4 Apocalypse'', [[spoiler:''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTensei4Apocalypse'', which all but outright confirms that YHVH is the Demiurge to the Great Will's True God]].
7th Feb '17 5:42:21 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* DarkWorld: The physical universe

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* DarkWorld: The physical universeuniverse.



** It should be noted that they are ALighterShadeOfBlack in EvilVersusEvil against the Demiurge. It should also be noted that the Demiurge was the MagnificentBastard ManipulativeBastard TheChessmaster who used a XanatosGambit to orchestrate their StartOfDarkness. This is especially with regards to Cain and Pharaoh. Cain was pushed over the edge to killing his brother Abel because the Demiurge liked him better. Actually, the Demiurge creates several enemies using this same "love the younger brother, hate the older brother" strategy i.e. love Abel hate Cain, love Isaac hate Ishmael, love Jacob hate Esau, love Judah hate Israel, etc. The Pharaoh was needed to play the role he did because the Demiurge was really really invested in a 400+ year old XanatosGambit to cause the Exodus. Similar to god on trial if you think about it. Sodom and Gommorah was ArsonMurderAndJaywalking because of the jaywalking part, i.e. deviant sexuality, which is one of the Demiurge's {{BerserkButton}}s.

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** It should be noted that they are ALighterShadeOfBlack in EvilVersusEvil against the Demiurge. It should also be noted that the Demiurge was the MagnificentBastard ManipulativeBastard TheChessmaster who used a XanatosGambit to orchestrate their StartOfDarkness. This is especially with regards to Cain and Pharaoh. Cain was pushed over the edge to killing his brother Abel because the Demiurge liked him better. Actually, the Demiurge creates several enemies using this same "love the younger brother, hate the older brother" strategy i.e. love Abel hate Cain, love Isaac hate Ishmael, love Jacob hate Esau, love Judah hate Israel, etc. The Pharaoh was needed to play the role he did because the Demiurge was really really invested in a 400+ year old XanatosGambit to cause the Exodus. Similar to god on trial if you think about it. Sodom and Gommorah was ArsonMurderAndJaywalking because of the jaywalking part, i.e. deviant sexuality, which is one of the Demiurge's {{BerserkButton}}s.{{Berserk Button}}s.



* GodIsEvil: The Creator of our world, the Demiurge, is presented at best as ignorant and petty, and at worst as a megalomaniacal sadist.

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* GodIsEvil: GodIsEvil[-/-]GodIsFlawed: The Creator of our world, the Demiurge, is presented at best as ignorant and petty, and at worst as a megalomaniacal sadist.
26th Jan '17 7:36:13 AM bedrockperson
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** The Abrahamic God is split into two different entities, the good god Jehova and the bad god "Adunay", who dedicated Jerusalem as a city of wickedness.
22nd Jan '17 6:26:12 AM Morgenthaler
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* From the matter that solidified out of her divine power, a False God was born, known as the Demiurge or Yaltabaoth, the Gnostic equivalent of [[CthulhuMythos Azathoth]]. The Demiurge then creates the Universe that is isolated from the higher dimensions above.

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* From the matter that solidified out of her divine power, a False God was born, known as the Demiurge or Yaltabaoth, the Gnostic equivalent of [[CthulhuMythos [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Azathoth]]. The Demiurge then creates the Universe that is isolated from the higher dimensions above.
6th Jan '17 6:15:22 AM SeptimusHeap
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything[=/=]FreudWasRight: In one version of Sophia's fall, it's because [[ADateWithRosiePalms she wanted to emanate without her male partner.]] He is Theletos/Theletus, just in case you wanted to know his name.

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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything[=/=]FreudWasRight: DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: In one version of Sophia's fall, it's because [[ADateWithRosiePalms she wanted to emanate without her male partner.]] He is Theletos/Theletus, just in case you wanted to know his name.
13th Nov '16 11:49:55 PM PaulA
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* Anything written by Creator/PhilipKDick, who had a keen sense of the existential paranoia implicit in the Gnostic scriptures and a working knowledge of the recently-translated Nag Hammadi codices (and don't forget the ''I Ching''). Particularly of note are VALIS, The Divine Invasion, The Transmigration of Timothy Archer, and Radio Free Albemuth. However, perspective readers should be warned about the high MindScrew content and the possibility of their brain turning to liquid, pouring out of their ears, and reassembling itself in a smiley face twenty-five kilometres over the peak of Kilimanjaro--and no, that's not a highly confusing metaphor for insanity.

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* Anything written by Creator/PhilipKDick, who had a keen sense of the existential paranoia implicit in the Gnostic scriptures and a working knowledge of the recently-translated Nag Hammadi codices (and don't forget the ''I Ching''). Particularly of note are VALIS, The ''Literature/{{VALIS}}'', ''The Divine Invasion, The Invasion'', ''The Transmigration of Timothy Archer, Archer'', and Radio ''Radio Free Albemuth. Albemuth''. However, perspective prospective readers should be warned about the high MindScrew content and the possibility of their brain turning to liquid, pouring out of their ears, and reassembling itself in a smiley face twenty-five kilometres over the peak of Kilimanjaro--and no, that's not a highly confusing metaphor for insanity.



* Series/{{Lost}}'s mythology and underlying metaphysics were heavily rooted in Gnosticism, but the show never drew any explicit parallels to it except for a brief glimpse of Philip K. Dick's VALIS, which also blended Gnostic spirituality and sci-fi. This came back to bite the writers, as it's [[ViewersAreGeniuses kind of necessary]] to understand the [[TrippyFinaleSyndrome finale]], especially the part about personal revelation (i.e. what meaning the characters and the audience bring to events) being more important than authorial dogma (the writers telling everyone what happened and shooting down all but one theory).

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* Series/{{Lost}}'s mythology and underlying metaphysics were heavily rooted in Gnosticism, but the show never drew any explicit parallels to it except for a brief glimpse of Philip K. Dick's VALIS, Creator/PhilipKDick's ''Literature/{{VALIS}}'', which also blended Gnostic spirituality and sci-fi. This came back to bite the writers, as it's [[ViewersAreGeniuses kind of necessary]] to understand the [[TrippyFinaleSyndrome finale]], especially the part about personal revelation (i.e. what meaning the characters and the audience bring to events) being more important than authorial dogma (the writers telling everyone what happened and shooting down all but one theory).
5th Nov '16 8:02:17 PM Jeduthun
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* ''Anime/HaibaneRenmei''
* ''Anime/TheBigO''

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* ''Manga/VenusVersusVirus''
* ''Dead End'' by Shohei Manabe
* There are some highly suspicious parallels in ''Manga/{{Blame}}'' to Gnostic ideology, particularly in the later parts of the series.
* Very surprisingly for a {{shonen}} manga, but a case could definitely be made for ''Manga/SoulEater''s inclusion in this list, particularly as of the Book chapters.
* Manga/EdenItsAnEndlessWorld draws on Gnosticism to an extent, primarily in character names.
* Literature/MardockScramble
* ''Manga/HekikaiNoAION''
* Anime/TimeOfEve
* Franchise/GhostInTheShell
* Anime/LastExile
* Anime/SolBianca

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* %%* ''Manga/VenusVersusVirus''
* %%* ''Dead End'' by Shohei Manabe
* %%* There are some highly suspicious parallels in ''Manga/{{Blame}}'' to Gnostic ideology, particularly in the later parts of the series.
* %%* Very surprisingly for a {{shonen}} manga, but a case could definitely be made for ''Manga/SoulEater''s inclusion in this list, particularly as of the Book chapters.
* %%* Manga/EdenItsAnEndlessWorld draws on Gnosticism to an extent, primarily in character names.
* %%* Literature/MardockScramble
* %%* ''Manga/HekikaiNoAION''
* %%* Anime/TimeOfEve
* %%* Franchise/GhostInTheShell
* %%* Anime/LastExile
* %%* Anime/SolBianca



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* Creator/AlanMoore comics, especially ''ComicBook/{{Promethea}}'' and ''ComicBook/VForVendetta''
* Creator/GrantMorrison, ComicBook/TheInvisibles
* [[ComicBook/TheSandman Sandman]]

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* ''Film/DarkCity''
* ''Film/TheIsland''
* ''Film/TheMatrix''
* ''Film/{{Pleasantville}}''
* ''Series/ThePrisoner''
* ''Film/TheThirteenthFloor''
* ''Film/TheTrumanShow''
* ''Film/{{Stigmata}}''
* ''Film/TheyLive''
* ''Film/TheAdjustmentBureau''

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''Film/DarkCity''
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* %%* ''Series/ThePrisoner''
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* Literature/{{Discworld}}

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* ''Literature/NakedLunch''

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* Anything written by Creator/JorgeLuisBorges, CarlJung, Creator/WilliamBlake, Creator/UmbertoEco and Creator/HermannHesse, whose novel ''Demian'' is what the egg speech in ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena'' was [[ShoutOut borrowed from]].

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* %%* Anything written by Creator/JorgeLuisBorges, CarlJung, Creator/WilliamBlake, Creator/UmbertoEco and Creator/HermannHesse, whose novel ''Demian'' is what the egg speech in ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena'' was [[ShoutOut borrowed from]].



* Some works of Creator/IainBanks slide into this area in varying degrees, of note in ''Literature/TheCulture'' novels are ''Literature/{{Excession}}'', ''Look to Windward'', and ''Literature/UseOfWeapons''. In other books, ''The Algebraist'' is pulled deeply into Gnostic territory with a dark and snarky bent.
* Pretty much anything by CormacMcCarthy, especially Literature/BloodMeridian.
* You have to look pretty hard, but it has increasingly been suggested that ''Literature/ParadiseLost'' draws on Gnostic theology.

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* %%* Some works of Creator/IainBanks slide into this area in varying degrees, of note in ''Literature/TheCulture'' novels are ''Literature/{{Excession}}'', ''Look to Windward'', and ''Literature/UseOfWeapons''. In other books, ''The Algebraist'' is pulled deeply into Gnostic territory with a dark and snarky bent.
* %%* Pretty much anything by CormacMcCarthy, especially Literature/BloodMeridian.
* %%* You have to look pretty hard, but it has increasingly been suggested that ''Literature/ParadiseLost'' draws on Gnostic theology.



* Music/{{Current 93}} makes continual reference to Gnostic texts.

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* %%* Music/{{Current 93}} makes continual reference to Gnostic texts.



* Music/ToriAmos references Gnosticism in her album ''The Beekeeper''.
* Music/VirginSteele: Touched on most albums, but most notably on Invictus (1998) and Visions of Eden (2006).
* Arguably some of Music/{{Tool}}'s songs touch on Gnostic themes, "Parabola" being an example, though Maynard's lyrics are open to a great deal of interpretation.

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* %%* Music/ToriAmos references Gnosticism in her album ''The Beekeeper''.
* %%* Music/VirginSteele: Touched on most albums, but most notably on Invictus (1998) and Visions of Eden (2006).
* %%* Arguably some of Music/{{Tool}}'s songs touch on Gnostic themes, "Parabola" being an example, though Maynard's lyrics are open to a great deal of interpretation.



* ''TabletopGame/{{KULT}}''

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* %%* ''TabletopGame/{{KULT}}''



* ''VideoGame/DeusExInvisibleWar''

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* %%* ''VideoGame/DeusExInvisibleWar''



* ''VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}}'' takes the Gnostic influence of ''Xenogears'' and unbelievably, cranks it UpToEleven. Seriously.

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* %%* ''VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}}'' takes the Gnostic influence of ''Xenogears'' and unbelievably, cranks it UpToEleven. Seriously.



* An aversion with ''VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX'': in spite of its impressive pedigree, there is almost no Gnostic influence in this game, and it plays the StandardSciFiSetting quite straight. Well, until the ending, when it [[spoiler: it takes the notion of TheSingularity and goes whole-hog with it, but suddenly subverts it (there is no Singularity at all) in TheStinger.]] It's possible a future sequel will bring the Gnostic influence back.

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* %%* An aversion with ''VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX'': in spite of its impressive pedigree, there is almost no Gnostic influence in this game, and it plays the StandardSciFiSetting quite straight. Well, until the ending, when it [[spoiler: it takes the notion of TheSingularity and goes whole-hog with it, but suddenly subverts it (there is no Singularity at all) in TheStinger.]] It's possible a future sequel will bring the Gnostic influence back.



* Without spoiling anything in particular, let's just say that ''VideoGame/{{Pathologic}}'' definitely has this kind of thing going on.

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* %%* Without spoiling anything in particular, let's just say that ''VideoGame/{{Pathologic}}'' definitely has this kind of thing going on.



* Surprisingly, as of the movies and season 6, ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}''.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheLegoMovie''
* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' isn't above moving into Gnostic territory on rare occasions. ''Rare'' occasions, mind you.

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* %%* Surprisingly, as of the movies and season 6, ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}''.
* %%* ''WesternAnimation/TheLegoMovie''
* %%* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' isn't above moving into Gnostic territory on rare occasions. ''Rare'' occasions, mind you.
2nd Nov '16 4:00:25 PM nombretomado
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* HisDarkMaterials ([[spoiler:the universe is, in a sense, self-aware; the Authority and, later, the Regent are demiurges]])

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* HisDarkMaterials ''Literature/HisDarkMaterials'': ([[spoiler:the universe is, in a sense, self-aware; the Authority and, later, the Regent are demiurges]])
24th Oct '16 1:38:10 PM SpaceWolf
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