History UsefulNotes / FermiParadox

15th Jan '17 6:43:35 PM WillKeaton
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TheOtherWiki has [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi%27s_paradox more details]].

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TheOtherWiki has [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi%27s_paradox more details]].
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21st Dec '16 1:39:28 PM StFan
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* The Comicbook/FantasticFour: Reed Richards attributes this to Comicbook/{{Galactus}} in the regular and ''ComicBook/UltimateMarvel'' universes.

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* The Comicbook/FantasticFour: Reed Richards attributes this to Comicbook/{{Galactus}} ComicBook/{{Galactus}} in the regular and ''ComicBook/UltimateMarvel'' universes.
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* ''Franchise/MassEffect'' Zig zags this. An EldritchAbomination species called the Reapers eliminates all space faring species once every 50,000 years but with the space transportation technology available, any number of species humanity does encounter could have visited us prior to our space age. In fact they did visit a pre-space age species and give them space travel so that they could help in a war, which led to disastrous results. So the reason we aren't visited is a combination of implied AlienNonInterferenceClause[[note]]It's more of a caution than clause; there's nothing stopping the uplifters (Salarians) from trying to uplift an ''even more violent race'' called the Yahg.[[/note]] and EldritchAbomination.
** The uplifitng of other races has occurred before the present time as seen with the Prometheans uplifitng the [[spoiler:Asari]] and the Hanar, who themselves saved the Drell from total extinction at the cost of having a lot of their people left on their dying homeworld.

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* ''Franchise/MassEffect'' Zig zags this. An EldritchAbomination species called the Reapers eliminates all space faring spacefaring species once every 50,000 years but with the space transportation technology available, any number of species humanity does encounter could have visited us prior to our space age. In fact they did visit a pre-space age species and give them space travel so that they could help in a war, which led to disastrous results. So the reason we aren't visited is a combination of implied AlienNonInterferenceClause[[note]]It's more of a caution than clause; there's nothing stopping the uplifters (Salarians) from trying to uplift an ''even more violent race'' called the Yahg.[[/note]] and EldritchAbomination.
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EldritchAbomination. The uplifitng of other races has occurred before the present time as seen with the Prometheans uplifitng the [[spoiler:Asari]] and the Hanar, who themselves saved the Drell from total extinction at the cost of having a lot of their people left on their dying homeworld.
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* ''WebAnimation/ExtraCredits'' devotes [[MultiPartEpisode a two-parter]] to this subject and the Drake Equation. Available [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/funding-xcom-part-1 here]] and [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/funding-xcom-part-2 here.
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--> '''Sam:''' There is no Fermi Paradox! Every time the aliens make it to Earth, the cows get them!

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--> '''Sam:''' -->'''Sam:''' There is no Fermi Paradox! Every time the aliens make it to Earth, the cows get them!
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* ''WebAnimation/ExtraCredits'' devotes [[MultiPartEpisode a two-parter]] to this subject and the Drake Equation. Available [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/funding-xcom-part-1 here]] and [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/funding-xcom-part-2 here.]]
* In ''WebOriginal/VeilOfMadness'', the reason humanity hasn't found any aliens is because Earth is smack in the middle of the titular 'Veil of Madness', which causes violent insanity in any intelligent life that lives there, usually driving them to extinction. Humanity is the only race to have avoided this (well, one race hasn't destroyed themselves quite yet, but they're definitely affected and they haven't got out of the stone age).

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* ''WebAnimation/ExtraCredits'' devotes [[MultiPartEpisode a two-parter]] to this subject and the Drake Equation. Available [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/funding-xcom-part-1 here]] and [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/funding-xcom-part-2 here.]]
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* In ''WebOriginal/VeilOfMadness'', ''Literature/VeilOfMadness'', the reason humanity hasn't found any aliens is because Earth is smack in the middle of the titular 'Veil "Veil of Madness', Madness", which causes violent insanity in any intelligent life that lives there, usually driving them to extinction. Humanity is the only race to have avoided this (well, one race hasn't destroyed themselves quite yet, but they're definitely affected and they haven't got out of the stone age).



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** ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' suggested the same thing:
--->'''Calvin:''' "I think the surest sign of intelligent life in the universe is that none of it has ever tried to contact us."
** As did Eric Idle's "Galaxy Song" Film/MontyPythonsTheMeaningOfLife'''
--->''And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space...''
--->''...[[NoIntelligentLifeHere 'cos there's bugger-all down here on Earth]]''

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** * ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' suggested the same thing:
--->'''Calvin:''' -->'''Calvin:''' "I think the surest sign of intelligent life in the universe is that none of it has ever tried to contact us."
** * As did Eric Idle's "Galaxy Song" Film/MontyPythonsTheMeaningOfLife'''
--->''And -->''And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space...''
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3rd Dec '16 10:31:34 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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* In ''WebOriginal/VeilOfMadness'', the reason humanity hasn't found any aliens is because Earth is smack in the middle of the titular 'Veil of Madness', which causes violent insanity in any intelligent life that lives there, usually driving them to extinction. Humanity is the only race to have avoided this (well, one race hasn't destroyed themselves quite yet, but they're definitely affected and they haven't got out of the stone age).
17th Oct '16 4:19:11 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''WebAnimation/ExtraCredits'' devotes [[MultiPartEpisode a two-parter]] to this subject and the Drake Equation. Available [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/funding-xcom-part-1 here]] and [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/funding-xcom-part-2 here.]]

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* ''WebAnimation/ExtraCredits'' devotes [[MultiPartEpisode a two-parter]] to this subject and the Drake Equation. Available [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/funding-xcom-part-1 here]] and [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/funding-xcom-part-2 here.]]

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14th Oct '16 3:32:05 PM nombretomado
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* ''WebVideo/ExtraCredits'' devotes [[MultiPartEpisode a two-parter]] to this subject and the Drake Equation. Available [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/funding-xcom-part-1 here]] and [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/funding-xcom-part-2 here.]]

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* ''WebVideo/ExtraCredits'' ''WebAnimation/ExtraCredits'' devotes [[MultiPartEpisode a two-parter]] to this subject and the Drake Equation. Available [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/funding-xcom-part-1 here]] and [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/funding-xcom-part-2 here.]]
26th Jul '16 1:40:04 PM DastardlyDemolition
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* ''Franchise/MassEffect'' Zig zags this. An EldritchAbomination species called the Reapers eliminates all space faring species once every 50,000 years but with the space transportation technology available, any number of species humanity does encounter could have visited us prior to our space age. In fact they did visit a pre-space age species and give them space travel so that they could help in a war, which led to disastrous results. So the reason we aren't visited is a combination of implied AlienNonInterferenceClause and EldritchAbomination.

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* ''Franchise/MassEffect'' Zig zags this. An EldritchAbomination species called the Reapers eliminates all space faring species once every 50,000 years but with the space transportation technology available, any number of species humanity does encounter could have visited us prior to our space age. In fact they did visit a pre-space age species and give them space travel so that they could help in a war, which led to disastrous results. So the reason we aren't visited is a combination of implied AlienNonInterferenceClause AlienNonInterferenceClause[[note]]It's more of a caution than clause; there's nothing stopping the uplifters (Salarians) from trying to uplift an ''even more violent race'' called the Yahg.[[/note]] and EldritchAbomination.
** The uplifitng of other races has occurred before the present time as seen with the Prometheans uplifitng the [[spoiler:Asari]] and the Hanar, who themselves saved the Drell from total extinction at the cost of having a lot of their people left on their dying homeworld.
23rd May '16 3:22:00 PM Trogdor7620
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->''Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.''
-->-- '''Arthur C. Clarke'''
30th Apr '16 4:04:05 PM Hadjorim
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The Fermi Paradox is an observation/question by physicist Enrico Fermi: The universe is very old. Life (from a scientific viewpoint) seems to be relatively simple--simple enough that, given the unimaginable size of the universe, there should be millions of planets with life scattered out there, and surely thousands at least in our own galaxy. And even without Faster-than-Light Travel, an intelligent spacefaring species should be able to spread across the galaxy in a relatively short amount of time[[note]]The Fermi paradox has also been presented as one of the arguments against the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steady_State_theory Steady state theory]], that states the Universe has existed forever. With an infinite amount of time behind it -- no matter how rare truly advanced space-faring species were -- sooner or later, not one but many would appear and we'd see evidence of their existence [[/note]].

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The Fermi Paradox is an observation/question by physicist Enrico Fermi: The universe is very old. Life (from a scientific viewpoint) seems to be relatively simple--simple enough that, given the unimaginable size of the universe, there should be millions of planets with life scattered out there, and surely thousands at least in our own galaxy. And even without Faster-than-Light Travel, an intelligent spacefaring species should be able to spread across the galaxy in a relatively short amount of time[[note]]The Fermi paradox has also been presented as one of the arguments against the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steady_State_theory Steady state theory]], that states the Universe has existed forever. With an infinite amount of time behind it -- no matter how rare truly advanced space-faring species were -- sooner or later, not one but many would appear and we'd see evidence of their existence [[/note]].time.


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The Fermi paradox has also been presented as one of the arguments against the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steady_State_theory Steady state theory]], that states the Universe has existed forever. With an infinite amount of time behind it -- no matter how rare truly advanced space-faring species were -- sooner or later, not one but many would appear and we'd see evidence of their existence.
29th Apr '16 12:56:03 AM Schismatism
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* The paradox is lampooned in ''Webcomic/FreeFall'': an alien squid (Sqid, if you would) who just so happens to be very tasty to virtually any sort of Terran animal points out that humanity's resilience is, in large part, due to asteroids smacking into Earth and giving more time to evolve: those who got it on the first try have simpler cellular structures. So...
--> '''Sam:''' There is no Fermi Paradox! Every time the aliens make it to Earth, the cows get them!
13th Mar '16 3:45:55 PM FordPrefect
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Related to the paradox is the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation Drake equation]], one attempt to quantify the elements required to actually discover other intelligent life forms out there, The Drake Equation has been criticized because most of its terms are unknown, leaving it to the discretion of individuals. Depending on the numbers you put in, the number of intelligent species per-galaxy as predicted by the Drake Equation can be anywhere from millions to less than one. In the end these terms can never ''be'' known for sure until after we resolve the Fermi Paradox one way or the other: either by finally contacting an alien civilization, or by exploring enough of the universe to say convincingly that they don't exist.

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Related to the paradox is the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation Drake equation]], one attempt to quantify the elements required to actually discover other intelligent life forms out there, there. The Drake Equation has been criticized because most of its terms are unknown, leaving it to the discretion of individuals. Depending on the numbers you put in, the number of intelligent species per-galaxy as predicted by the Drake Equation can be anywhere from millions to less than one. In the end end, these terms can never ''be'' be known for sure until after we resolve the Fermi Paradox one way or the other: either by finally contacting an alien civilization, or by exploring enough of the universe to say convincingly that they don't exist.
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