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5th May '13 7:09:18 PM Peteman

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21st Apr '13 5:15:57 PM memememememe

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The idea of an apathetic God, however, did not lead to a CosmicHorrorStory worldview among its believers, but rather the contrary and rather optimistic. Deism was a justification for the Bill of rights in that, if the Creator does not favour anyone or anything, [[TheAntiNihilist then all men are created equal, we have no reason to favour one religion against another, and are free to live our individual private lives as long as we don't hurt others]]. Saying that the apathetic Gods idea of Deism automatically leads to a CosmicHorrorStory is like saying that UsefulNotes/{{atheism}} automatically leads to StrawNihilist {{Omnicidal Mania|c}}.

The ideology extols a reasoned evaluation of scientific evidence as supporting Intelligent Design, but not [[WhatIsEvil any absolute moral code]] or any miracles. It was the equivalent of modern atheism during the Enlightenment, rejecting any accounts about miracles or revelation until proven (e.g. Jefferson is infamous for [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible creating a revision of the Bible without any miracles]]), and espouses that science and reason are the most reliable ways to know our Creator.

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The idea of an apathetic God, however, did not lead to a CosmicHorrorStory worldview among its believers. Deism was in fact a justification for Secular Humanism and the Bill of Rights in that, if the Creator does not favour anyone or anything, [[TheAntiNihilist then all men are created equal, we have no reason to favour one religion against another, and are free to have our own private bedrooms]]. Saying that the "apathetic God" idea of Deism automatically leads to a CosmicHorrorStory is [[SlipperySlopeFallacy like saying]] that UsefulNotes/{{atheism}} automatically leads to StrawNihilist {{Omnicidal Mania|c}}.

The ideology extols a reasoned evaluation of scientific evidence as supporting Intelligent Design, but not [[WhatIsEvil any absolute moral code]] or any miracles. It was the more acceptable equivalent of modern atheism during the Enlightenment, rejecting any accounts about miracles or revelation until proven (e.g. Jefferson is infamous for [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible creating a revision of the Bible without any miracles]]), and espouses that science and reason are the most reliable ways to know the Creator.

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Essentially, you can view it as God created the Universe, set up all the laws of reality and everything, then either totally lost interest, or simply stepped aside to let his creation run its course without interruption. He's still "around" but he doesn't do much, if anything, to interfere with mortal lives (And if He did, we [[{{Muggles}} mere mortals]] probably wouldn't be in the loop; after all, God Works In Mysterious Ways...).

21st Apr '13 4:40:03 PM memememememe

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'''Deism''' is a theological theory proposing that a god created the Universe but is an AllPowerfulBystander who has since refrained from any activity in it. It was espoused by many European scientific thinkers of the 18th century (the Enlightenment age), some leaders of TheFrenchRevolution as well as some US founding fathers such as Creator/BenjaminFranklin, ThomasJefferson and Creator/ThomasPaine.

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The concept could be traced back to Aristotle's unmoved mover but Lord Herbert of Cherbury is considered the first deist. Although he based his beliefs off of Christianity being one of many religions claiming to be the one true way his God was still a personal god who supernaturally interfered in the universe. In particular deists from this era were tired of the devastation caused by religious institutions and ideas, and were looking for a true model of the cosmos that logic would dictate everybody had to agree on. It wasn't until John Locke's ''An Essay Concerning Human Understanding'' and the scientific revolution of the seventeenth century that deism took the form of what we now know as Classical Deism.

Classical deism is similar to Modern Deism in that they're both based on reason and naturalism but Classical Deism's evolution from Christianity is more readily apparent. Classical Deism didn't have the benefit of evolution, the big bang theory, or even an idea of how old the earth and universe were. Newton's theory of gravity and Copernicus's heliocentric model of the universe were the best they had to go on. They viewed God as transcendental from its creation and impersonal. At the time deism was part of a continuum with Christianity. Christian Deism and unitarianism were situated in the middle. Conservatives cite this ambiguity in their defense of the founding fathers being Christian and Liberals cite the lack of scientific knowledge at the time as to why the founding fathers didn't slide more towards the deism side.

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The concept could be traced back to Aristotle's unmoved mover but Lord Herbert of Cherbury is considered the first deist. Although he based his beliefs off of Christianity being one of many religions claiming to be the one true way his God was still a personal god who supernaturally interfered in the universe. In particular deists from this era were tired of [[KnightTemplar the devastation, totalitarianism and propaganda caused by religious institutions and ideas fighting against each other]], and were looking for a true model of the cosmos that logic and science would dictate everybody had to agree on. It wasn't until John Locke's ''An Essay Concerning Human Understanding'' and the scientific revolution of the seventeenth century that deism took the form of what we now know as Classical Deism.

Classical deism is similar to Modern Deism in that they're both based on reason and naturalism but Classical Deism's evolution from Christianity is more readily apparent. Classical Deism didn't have the benefit of evolution, the big bang theory, or even an idea of how old the earth and universe were. Newton's theory of gravity and Copernicus's heliocentric model of the universe were the best they had to go on. They viewed God as transcendental from its creation and impersonal, preferring neither the Catholic nor Protestant nor the extremely anti-sex models of morality. However, at the time deism was part of a continuum with Christianity. Christian Deism and unitarianism were situated in the middle, but they were for the most part more individualistic.

When conservatives cite the references about a Creator in their defence of the founding fathers being Christian, liberals in response cite the lack of scientific knowledge at the time as the reason why the founding fathers still referenced a Creator even though it was obvious for them that religious interference in politics will directly contradict the First Amendment ("Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof").

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