** ''Literature/RainbowSix'''s CanucksWithChinooks reference also doubles as a HilariousInHindsight moment: after a hijack attempt is foiled in the opening scene, an airliner diverts to an "RCAF" base and the terrorists are taken into custody by security troops led by an "RCAF Colonel." At the time, this was a CriticalResearchFailure as the Royal Canadian Air Force got merged out of existence with Unification in 1968 and reemerged as Canadian Forces Air Command. Furthermore, the old RCAF used ''[[BritsWithBattleships RAF]]''-style ranks, so a pre-unification RCAF O-6 would have been a Group Captain, not a Colonel, making "RCAF Colonel" a contradiction in terms as well as an anachronism. Fast forward 13 years after ''Literature/RainbowSix'' was written, and the Royal Canadian Air Force got its former name back but continues using Army-style ranks, making the scene almost[[note]]the "new" RCAF does still use "CFB" (Canadian Forces Base) as a name prefix for its bases, rather than the former "RCAF," so the scene does still have ''one'' anachronism in it[[/note]] completely realistic now...

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* Clancy also briefly references the Canadian Forces in ''Executive Orders'' and ''RainbowSix''.
** ''RainbowSix'''s CanucksWithChinooks reference also doubles as a HilariousInHindsight moment: after a hijack attempt is foiled in the opening scene, an airliner diverts to an "RCAF" base and the terrorists are taken into custody by security troops led by an "RCAF Colonel." At the time, this was a CriticalResearchFailure as the Royal Canadian Air Force got merged out of existence with Unification in 1968 and reemerged as Canadian Forces Air Command. Furthermore, the old RCAF used ''[[BritsWithBattleships RAF]]''-style ranks, so a pre-unification RCAF O-6 would have been a Group Captain, not a Colonel, making "RCAF Colonel" a contradiction in terms as well as an anachronism. Fast forward 13 years after ''RainbowSix'' was written, and the Royal Canadian Air Force got its former name back but continues using Army-style ranks, making the scene almost[[note]]the "new" RCAF does still use "CFB" (Canadian Forces Base) as a name prefix for its bases, rather than the former "RCAF," so the scene does still have ''one'' anachronism in it[[/note]] completely realistic now...

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* Clancy also briefly references the Canadian Forces in ''Executive Orders'' and ''Literature/RainbowSix''.
** ''Literature/RainbowSix'''s CanucksWithChinooks reference also doubles as a HilariousInHindsight moment: after a hijack attempt is foiled in the opening scene, an airliner diverts to an "RCAF" base and the terrorists are taken into custody by security troops led by an "RCAF Colonel." At the time, this was a CriticalResearchFailure as the Royal Canadian Air Force got merged out of existence with Unification in 1968 and reemerged as Canadian Forces Air Command. Furthermore, the old RCAF used ''[[BritsWithBattleships RAF]]''-style ranks, so a pre-unification RCAF O-6 would have been a Group Captain, not a Colonel, making "RCAF Colonel" a contradiction in terms as well as an anachronism. Fast forward 13 years after ''Literature/RainbowSix'' was written, and the Royal Canadian Air Force got its former name back but continues using Army-style ranks, making the scene almost[[note]]the "new" RCAF does still use "CFB" (Canadian Forces Base) as a name prefix for its bases, rather than the former "RCAF," so the scene does still have ''one'' anachronism in it[[/note]] completely realistic now...

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The Canadian Forces, as they are known today, were formed by the unification of the Royal Canadian Air Force, Royal Canadian Navy, and Canadian Army into a single command structure in 1968 to [[ExecutiveMeddling save on]] [[BoringButPractical non-essential costs like overlapping training, supply and administrative structures]]. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Forces#Unification_and_beyond This had elicited some resistance]] [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks from Canadian soldiers]], but over time, they accepted it -- mostly. The unified administration and training ultimately worked out after initial teething troubles, but the idea of trying to create a single service identity and uniform with no distinction between army, navy and air force [[UnderStatement never really caught on with the troops]]. Gradually, the services reasserted some of their former identities, with Maritime Command regaining the use of naval rank titles after a few years, followed by the readoption of separate dress uniforms for the (still lower-case) army, navy and air force in [[TheEighties the 1980s]] (though the new Distinct Environmental Uniforms were more of a [[PaletteSwap palette swap]] of the Unification uniform with some differences in detail rather than a return to the services' former uniforms).

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The Canadian Forces, as they are known today, were formed by the unification of the Royal Canadian Air Force, Royal Canadian Navy, and Canadian Army into a single command structure in 1968 to [[ExecutiveMeddling save on]] [[BoringButPractical non-essential costs like overlapping training, supply and administrative structures]]. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Forces#Unification_and_beyond This had elicited some resistance]] [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks from Canadian soldiers]], but over time, they accepted it -- mostly. The unified administration and training ultimately worked out after initial teething troubles, but the idea of trying to create a single service identity and uniform with no distinction between army, navy and air force never really caught on with the troops. Gradually, the services reasserted some of their former identities, with Maritime Command regaining the use of naval rank titles after a few years, followed by the readoption of separate dress uniforms for the (still lower-case) army, navy and air force in [[TheEighties the 1980s]] (though the new Distinct Environmental Uniforms were more of a [[PaletteSwap palette swap]] of the Unification uniform with some differences in detail rather than a return to the services' former uniforms).

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By the [[TurnOfTheMillennium 2000s]], the terms "Canadian Navy," "Canadian Army" and "Canadian Air Force" started creeping into semi-official use for recruiting posters, websites and such, in place of the official Maritime Command, Land Forces Command and Air Command (which had [[FailOSuckyname never been popular with servicepeople or gained much recognition with the public]]). Then in August 2011, the names of the elemental commands were changed back to the Royal Canadian Air Force, Royal Canadian Navy, and Canadian Army[[note]]in case anyone is wondering why it's not the Royal Canadian Army: The tradition in Britain and other Commonwealth countries has always been for royal titles in the army to be awarded to individual units (e.g. the Royal Canadian Dragoons), most of which remained unchanged after unification[[/note]]. Reactions were just as mixed as after unification; the return to tradition led some to rejoice, while others complained that it reinforces our connection to the British monarchy (which they see as detrimental to Canadian nationality). Either way, most civilians don't really care, while many servicepeople are just happy to be able to officially call themselves Army, Navy and Air Force again within the unified structure of the CF, royal titles or not.

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By the [[TurnOfTheMillennium 2000s]], the terms "Canadian Navy," "Canadian Army" and "Canadian Air Force" started creeping into semi-official use for recruiting posters, websites and such, in place of the official Maritime Command, Land Forces Command and Air Command (which had [[FailOSuckyname never been popular with servicepeople or gained much recognition with the public]]). Then in August 2011, the names of the elemental commands were changed back to the Royal Canadian Air Force, Royal Canadian Navy, and Canadian Army[[note]]in case anyone is wondering why it's not the Royal Canadian Army: The tradition in Britain and other Commonwealth countries has always been for royal titles in the army to be awarded to individual units (e.g. the Royal Canadian Dragoons), most of which remained unchanged after unification[[/note]]. Reactions were just as mixed as after unification; the return to tradition led some to rejoice, while others complained that it reinforces our connection to the British monarchy (which they see as detrimental to Canadian nationality). Either way, most civilians don't really care, accountants are annoyed at having to spend more money updating all the stationary, while many servicepeople are just happy to be able to officially call themselves Army, Navy and Air Force again within the unified structure of the CF, royal titles or not.

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i.e means "in effect" it does NOT mean "for example" - that's what e.g. is for. For more information, read The Oatmeal

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By the [[TurnOfTheMillennium 2000s]], the terms "Canadian Navy," "Canadian Army" and "Canadian Air Force" started creeping into semi-official use for recruiting posters, websites and such, in place of the official Maritime Command, Land Forces Command and Air Command (which had [[FailOSuckyname never been popular with servicepeople or gained much recognition with the public]]). Then in August 2011, the names of the elemental commands were changed back to the Royal Canadian Air Force, Royal Canadian Navy, and Canadian Army[[note]]in case anyone is wondering why it's not the Royal Canadian Army: The tradition in Britain and other Commonwealth countries has always been for royal titles in the army to be awarded to individual units (i.e. the Royal Canadian Dragoons), most of which remained unchanged after unification[[/note]]. Reactions were just as mixed as after unification; the return to tradition led some to rejoice, while others complained that it reinforces our connection to the British monarchy (which they see as detrimental to Canadian nationality). Either way, most civilians don't really care, while many servicepeople are just happy to be able to officially call themselves Army, Navy and Air Force again within the unified structure of the CF, royal titles or not.

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