History UsefulNotes / AustralianPolitics

5th Jun '17 3:33:26 AM Doc_Loki
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* Australia is one of the very few nations on the planet to have compulsory voting at all levels. As such, voter turnout at Australian elections in generally in the 98%-99% range (there's [[HumansAreBastards always a few]]), which - along with the preferential voting system - means that it can take literally weeks to count all the votes for the Senate.

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* Australia is one of the very few nations on the planet to have compulsory voting at all levels. As such, voter turnout at Australian elections in generally in the 98%-99% range (there's [[HumansAreBastards always a few]]), which - along with the preferential voting system - means that it can take literally weeks to count all the votes for the Senate.
Senate. One of the odder side effects of this is that pre-election polls in Australian are more reliable than in many other democracies, because almost everyone polled '''is''' actually going to vote.
13th May '17 12:27:59 PM nombretomado
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* '''Malcolm Fraser''' (Liberal Party), Prime Minister from 1975 to 1983. Instrumental in bringing down ''two'' Prime Ministers - Gorton and Whitlam. Won the 1975 election against Whitlam after getting media support from Rupert Murdoch's papers, economic problems, the numerous scandals by Whitlam government ministers, and giving the reassurance that, unlike Gough, you could trust him not to change too much too quickly. His time as PM isn't approved of by the left or right -- the left revile him for his role in "The Dismissal", while the right regard his government as a wasted opportunity because he wasn't enough like MargaretThatcher. After being voted out of office he gradually became estranged from the Liberal Party, eventually leaving them altogether in 2009 when Tony Abbott became the Liberal Leader (saying that the Liberal Party was "no longer a liberal party but a conservative party"), and patched things up with Gough (the two campaigned together in support of a republic for the 1999 referendum). Died in 2015.

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* '''Malcolm Fraser''' (Liberal Party), Prime Minister from 1975 to 1983. Instrumental in bringing down ''two'' Prime Ministers - Gorton and Whitlam. Won the 1975 election against Whitlam after getting media support from Rupert Murdoch's papers, economic problems, the numerous scandals by Whitlam government ministers, and giving the reassurance that, unlike Gough, you could trust him not to change too much too quickly. His time as PM isn't approved of by the left or right -- the left revile him for his role in "The Dismissal", while the right regard his government as a wasted opportunity because he wasn't enough like MargaretThatcher.UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher. After being voted out of office he gradually became estranged from the Liberal Party, eventually leaving them altogether in 2009 when Tony Abbott became the Liberal Leader (saying that the Liberal Party was "no longer a liberal party but a conservative party"), and patched things up with Gough (the two campaigned together in support of a republic for the 1999 referendum). Died in 2015.
20th Mar '17 9:27:33 PM WaterBlap
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** Despite the above issues as well as some questionable comments by her other senators, One Nation continued to ride high in the polls, encouraged by DonaldTrump's victory in the USA. They hoped to translate this into seats in the Western Australian election in March 2017, where some polls had them picking up to 13% of the vote in a largely conservative state. The campaign ended up backfiring after One Nation arranged a controversial preference deal with the now-unpopular but governing Liberal Party where they would preference each other in a number of marginal seats. A number of candidates from both parties were critical of the deal, resulting in Hanson kicking some of the candidates out of the party while others resigned. The party ended up wining less than 5% of the statewide as a result.

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** Despite the above issues as well as some questionable comments by her other senators, One Nation continued to ride high in the polls, encouraged by DonaldTrump's UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump's victory in the USA. They hoped to translate this into seats in the Western Australian election in March 2017, where some polls had them picking up to 13% of the vote in a largely conservative state. The campaign ended up backfiring after One Nation arranged a controversial preference deal with the now-unpopular but governing Liberal Party where they would preference each other in a number of marginal seats. A number of candidates from both parties were critical of the deal, resulting in Hanson kicking some of the candidates out of the party while others resigned. The party ended up wining less than 5% of the statewide as a result.
12th Mar '17 5:09:05 AM TheAndyman14
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** Hanson attempted another political comeback in 2015, returning as One Nation leader and contesting a seat in the Queensland Parliament. She lost by 200 votes.
** She finally won a seat in the 2016 federal election, being elected as a senator from Queensland. It was a double-dissolution election, so thanks to the reduced quota a second One Nation senator from Queensland was elected along with her.

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** Hanson attempted another political comeback in 2015, returning as One Nation leader and contesting a seat in the Queensland Parliament. She lost by 200 votes.
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votes.However, she finally won a seat in the 2016 federal election, being elected as a senator from Queensland. It was a double-dissolution election, so thanks to the reduced quota a second One Nation senator from Queensland was elected along with her.her, along with one senator each from NSW and WA. But the gravy train didn't last long, as the WA One Nation senator was found to be in the process of being convicted over the theft of a vehicle key in NSW. This led to a public falling out between the senator and Hanson, leading to him eventually quitting the party. The court eventually ruled him [[RoleEndingMisdemeanor bankrupt]] in early 2017, rendering his position in the Senate vacant. One Nation regained the seat after a vote recount.
** Despite the above issues as well as some questionable comments by her other senators, One Nation continued to ride high in the polls, encouraged by DonaldTrump's victory in the USA. They hoped to translate this into seats in the Western Australian election in March 2017, where some polls had them picking up to 13% of the vote in a largely conservative state. The campaign ended up backfiring after One Nation arranged a controversial preference deal with the now-unpopular but governing Liberal Party where they would preference each other in a number of marginal seats. A number of candidates from both parties were critical of the deal, resulting in Hanson kicking some of the candidates out of the party while others resigned. The party ended up wining less than 5% of the statewide as a result.
11th Feb '17 3:30:58 AM AirofMystery
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*** Menzies had the nickname "Pig Iron Bob" due to his promotions of iron exports to Japan in the thirties. The joke (and it says a lot about Australians that this is a joke) is that the Japanese [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI gave it back]] soon after.

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*** Menzies had the nickname "Pig Iron Bob" due to his promotions of iron exports to Japan in the thirties. The joke (and it says a lot about Australians that this is a joke) is that the Japanese [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII gave it back]] soon after.
28th Dec '16 3:06:06 AM ClatoLawa
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* '''Malcolm Turnbull''' (Liberal Party), since 14 September 2015. When things were getting ''really bad'' for the government, Turnbull finally stepped in and ousted Abbott in a quick and relatively bloodless contest that was over by midnight the day he announced it, with Julie Bishop supporting him as deputy leader of the Liberals. Turnbull's coup was largely welcomed by the Australian public, although it was a nightmare for the hard right, to say the least. For the left, it was a mixed blessing: Turnbull would be more moderate than Abbott, but probably harder to beat.\\
By the time Turnbull called the 2016 election, his honeymoon was over and he and the Coalition were facing a knife-edged battle to stay in power. They ultimately won, but with only 76 seats out of 150 including the non-voting Speaker literally the smallest majority government possible. Plus, despite changes in Senate rules to avoid "preference gaming" which resulted a rather hostile Senate in 2013, [[PyrrhicVictory the election returned an equally hostile Senate with an even larger cross-bench than before]] complete with ''two'' power blocs in the form of One Nation and the Nick Xenophon Team, both of whom hate each other and are likely much less inclined to capitulate to the government than Clive Palmer ever was, ''[[FromBadToWorse and the government needs both their support to pass anything not supported by Labor or the Greens.]]'' It's been barely a month since the election and Turnbull has already had to deal with plenty of party infighting and an emboldened right-wing who are still very bitter over the Abbot coup ([[http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/malcolm_turnbull_you_are_finished/ hell, the election result hadn't even been called before right-wing figures started calling for Turnbull's head]], forgetting that had Abbot taken his government to an election it would have been a ''bloodbath''). Turnbull has a monumental challenge before him, ''if'' he isn't the victim of a leadership coup during his term, [[HereWeGoAgain and people are already predicting he'll be out by the end of 2017...]]

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* '''Malcolm Turnbull''' (Liberal Party), since 14 September 2015. When things were getting ''really bad'' for the government, Turnbull finally stepped in and ousted Abbott in a quick and relatively bloodless contest that was over by midnight the day he announced it, with Julie Bishop supporting him as deputy leader of the Liberals. Turnbull's coup was largely welcomed by the Australian public, although it was a nightmare for the hard right, to say the least. For the left, it was initially seen as a mixed blessing: Turnbull would be more moderate than Abbott, but probably harder to beat.beat. However, it soon became apparent that Turnbull wasn't willing to change any Coalition policies, including those that he had publicly disagreed with Abbott on in the past (such as marriage equality and climate change).\\
By As a result, by the time Turnbull called the 2016 election, his honeymoon was over and he and the Coalition were facing a knife-edged battle to stay in power. They ultimately won, but with only 76 seats out of 150 including the non-voting Speaker literally the smallest majority government possible. Plus, despite changes in Senate rules to avoid "preference gaming" which resulted a rather hostile Senate in 2013, [[PyrrhicVictory the election returned an equally hostile Senate with an even larger cross-bench than before]] complete with ''two'' power blocs in the form of One Nation and the Nick Xenophon Team, both of whom hate each other and are likely much less inclined to capitulate to the government than Clive Palmer ever was, ''[[FromBadToWorse and the government needs both their support to pass anything not supported by Labor or the Greens.]]'' It's been barely Barely a month since after the election and election, Turnbull has had already had to deal with plenty of party infighting and an emboldened right-wing who are still very bitter over the Abbot coup ([[http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/malcolm_turnbull_you_are_finished/ hell, the election result hadn't even been called before right-wing figures started calling for Turnbull's head]], forgetting that had Abbot taken his government to an election it would have been a ''bloodbath''). Turnbull has a monumental challenge before him, ''if'' he isn't the victim of a leadership coup during his term, [[HereWeGoAgain and people are already predicting he'll be out by the end of 2017...]]
11th Oct '16 8:28:51 PM LorienTheYounger
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In the technical sense, Australia does not have a two-party system. It's just that only two parties ever form government, two parties win the overwhelming majority of seats, and the only other party to have held a ministry in any government in the last 90 years is in a permanent, unending coalition with the Liberal Party. Other minor parties gaining any seats in the federal lower house at all is a very recent development, with the Greens first winning a single seat in 2010 (retained 2013) and Palmer United also winning one seat in 2013.

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In the technical sense, Australia does not have a two-party system. It's just that only two parties ever form government, two parties win the overwhelming majority of seats, and the only other party to have held a ministry in any government in the last 90 years is in a permanent, unending coalition with the Liberal Party. Other minor parties gaining any seats in the federal lower house at all is a very recent development, with the Greens first winning a their single seat in 2010 (retained 2013) and 2010, Palmer United also winning one seat in 2013.
2013 (since lost), and NXT winning one in 2016.
21st Aug '16 6:26:09 AM Doug86
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** Hughes was also instrumental in insisting that the Treaty of Versailles should oblige Germany to pay war reparations, ganging up with French PM Georges Clemenceau to browbeat Lloyd George into backing the measure. Reparations, of course, played a huge part in the collapse of the WeimarRepublic and the rise of Nazism. If only UsefulNotes/WoodrowWilson's style had been less HolierThanThou professorial lecturing and more annoying politicking...

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** Hughes was also instrumental in insisting that the Treaty of Versailles should oblige Germany to pay war reparations, ganging up with French PM Georges Clemenceau to browbeat Lloyd George into backing the measure. Reparations, of course, played a huge part in the collapse of the WeimarRepublic UsefulNotes/WeimarRepublic and the rise of Nazism. If only UsefulNotes/WoodrowWilson's style had been less HolierThanThou professorial lecturing and more annoying politicking...
9th Aug '16 8:03:59 PM LorienTheYounger
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** How did Hanson win as an independent in 1996? She was a Liberal who was dropped when they realised what she thought. Before the election, but too late to take her off the list.

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** How did Hanson win as an independent in 1996? 1996, in a safe Labor seat? She was a Liberal who was dropped when they realised what she thought. Before the election, but too late to take her off the list.ballot.



** In 2016 they changed the system yet again. Group Voting Tickets were abolished; voting for a group above-the-line became equivalent to ranking the candidates in that group from the top down; and voters no longer needed to rank every Senate candidate. Now, voters must rank a minimum of six groups above-the-line or twelve candidates below-the-line. If all their ranked candidates get eliminated during the count, their vote becomes "exhausted" and from then on is treated as informal.

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** * In 2016 they changed the system yet again. Group Voting Tickets were abolished; voting for a group above-the-line became equivalent to ranking the candidates in that group from the top down; and voters no longer needed to rank every Senate candidate. Now, voters must rank a minimum of six groups above-the-line or twelve candidates below-the-line. If all their ranked candidates get eliminated during the count, their vote becomes "exhausted" and from then on is treated as informal.
9th Aug '16 8:02:47 PM LorienTheYounger
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Australia uses "preferential voting" -- also known as the "Alternative Vote" system in the UK, or as "instant-runoff voting" (which despite initial hopes is not forcing pudgy, middle-aged politicians to sprint). Rather than voting for a singular candidate and have them win through a plurality (i.e. whoever wins the most votes) such as in other countries, Australians are made to vote for their members in order of preference, ranking them 1, 2, 3 and so on. If no one wins a majority (i.e. more than 50%) of #1 votes first off, then whoever got the least number is eliminated and those votes are distributed to whoever the voters ranked as #2 instead -- the process is repeated until someone gets a majority.

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Australia uses "preferential voting" -- also known as "Instant-Runoff Voting" (which disappointingly doesn't involve forcing pudgy middle-aged politicians to sprint) or as the "Alternative Vote" system in the UK, or as "instant-runoff voting" (which despite initial hopes is not forcing pudgy, middle-aged politicians to sprint).UK. Rather than voting for a singular candidate and have them win through a plurality (i.e. whoever wins the most votes) such as in other countries, Australians are made to vote for their members in order of preference, ranking them 1, 2, 3 and so on. If no one wins a majority (i.e. more than 50%) of #1 votes first off, then whoever got the least number is eliminated and those votes are distributed to whoever the voters ranked as #2 instead -- the process is repeated until someone gets a majority.
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