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30th Dec '17 7:51:57 AM wkcia
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A now quite serious but previously quite informal tradition around election time is the "Democracy Sausage," where as a reward for doing your civic duty you could thereafter chow down on a BBQ sausage in a piece of bread with optional toppings. They would be provided by whomever was hosting the ballot space (usually the local public school, scout hall, or other similar civic place) for less than $5, with profits going to the host. Cakes and soft drinks are often also provided. Millenial voters use photos of their sausage rolls as informal "I voted" stickers on social media, and there is a central community run webpage telling you where you can get your Democracy Sausage all across Australia. Polling day is a very relaxed and pleasant affair, with very little of the vitriol that might afflict other countries and very little of the seriousness that might attend a US election.
29th Dec '17 10:23:21 PM ClatoLawa
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There is also a Deputy Prime Minister. In a Labor Government the Deputy PM is also the deputy leader of the Labor Party, and in a Coalition government s/he is the leader of the smaller party in the Coalition (the Nationals). The Deputy PM's main responsibility is to step in as Acting PM in the event of the Prime Minister being overseas, incapacitated or dead. The current Deputy Prime Minister is Barnaby Joyce, but as of October 2017 he has been ruled ineligible to serve in Parliament by the High Court, due to his failure to renounce his New Zealand citizenship at the time of his nomination as a candidate. His Deputy Leader Fiona Nash has also been disqualified thanks to her inherited British citizenship on her father's side.

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There is also a Deputy Prime Minister. In a Labor Government the Deputy PM is also the deputy leader of the Labor Party, and in a Coalition government s/he is the leader of the smaller party in the Coalition (the Nationals). The Deputy PM's main responsibility is to step in as Acting PM in the event of the Prime Minister being overseas, incapacitated or dead. The current Deputy Prime Minister is Barnaby Joyce, but as of October 2017 he has been ruled ineligible to serve in Parliament by the High Court, due to his failure to renounce his New Zealand citizenship at the time of his nomination as a candidate. His Deputy Leader Fiona Nash has also been disqualified thanks to her inherited British citizenship on her father's side.
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As a result, by the time Turnbull called the 2016 election, his honeymoon was over and he and the Coalition were facing a knife-edged battle to stay in power. They ultimately won, but with only 76 seats out of 150 including the non-voting Speaker literally the smallest majority government possible. Plus, despite changes in Senate rules to avoid "preference gaming" which resulted a rather hostile Senate in 2013, [[PyrrhicVictory the election returned an equally hostile Senate with an even larger cross-bench than before]] complete with ''two'' power blocs in the form of One Nation and the Nick Xenophon Team, both of whom hate each other and are likely much less inclined to capitulate to the government than Clive Palmer ever was, ''[[FromBadToWorse and the government needs both their support to pass anything not supported by Labor or the Greens.]]'' Barely a month after the election, Turnbull had already had to deal with plenty of party infighting and an emboldened right-wing who are still very bitter over the Abbot coup ([[http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/malcolm_turnbull_you_are_finished/ hell, the election result hadn't even been called before right-wing figures started calling for Turnbull's head]], forgetting that had Abbot taken his government to an election it would have been a ''bloodbath''). Turnbull has a monumental challenge before him, ''if'' he isn't the victim of a leadership coup during his term, [[HereWeGoAgain and people are already predicting he'll be out by the end of 2017...]]\\

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As a result, by the time Turnbull called the 2016 election, his honeymoon was over and he and the Coalition were facing a knife-edged battle to stay in power. They ultimately won, but with only 76 seats out of 150 including the non-voting Speaker literally the smallest majority government possible. Plus, despite changes in Senate rules to avoid "preference gaming" which resulted a rather hostile Senate in 2013, [[PyrrhicVictory the election returned an equally hostile Senate with an even larger cross-bench than before]] complete with ''two'' power blocs in the form of One Nation and the Nick Xenophon Team, both of whom hate each other and are likely much less inclined to capitulate to the government than Clive Palmer ever was, ''[[FromBadToWorse and the government needs both their support to pass anything not supported by Labor or the Greens.]]'' Barely a month after the election, Turnbull had already had to deal with plenty of party infighting and an emboldened right-wing who are still very bitter over the Abbot coup ([[http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/malcolm_turnbull_you_are_finished/ hell, the election result hadn't even been called before right-wing figures started calling for Turnbull's head]], forgetting that had Abbot taken his government to an election it would have been a ''bloodbath''). Turnbull has a monumental challenge before him, ''if'' he isn't the victim of a leadership coup during his term, [[HereWeGoAgain and people are already predicting he'll be out by before the end of 2017...next election...]]\\
24th Dec '17 10:57:59 AM nombretomado
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** Gorton was Prime Minister during the Lunar landings of 1969. He also presided over the greatest loosening of censorship laws Australia has ever seen (spear-headed by Minister for Communications and his good mate, Don Chipp). And as a youth, one of his schoolmates was ErrolFlynn.

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** Gorton was Prime Minister during the Lunar landings of 1969. He also presided over the greatest loosening of censorship laws Australia has ever seen (spear-headed by Minister for Communications and his good mate, Don Chipp). And as a youth, one of his schoolmates was ErrolFlynn.Creator/ErrolFlynn.
19th Dec '17 5:33:23 PM ClatoLawa
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Then [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Australian_parliamentary_eligibility_crisis the parliamentary eligibility crisis of of 2017 came out of nowhere]] and bit the government in the ass harder than anyone thought.[[note]]The whole mess started when two Greens senators (Scott Ludlam and Larissa Waters) immediately resigned due to running afoul of Section 44 of the Constitution (which forbids Members of Parliament from holding dual-citizenship). Shortly after the Greens were mocked for not getting their paperwork in order, five other parliamentarians were discovered to also be potentially in breach (three Nationals (National Party Leader and Deputy PM Barnaby Joyce, Matt Canavan and Fiona Nash), one ONP senator (Malcom Roberts, who hilariously tried the "I don't believe I'm a British citizen so I'm not" argument, which didn't fly in court) and Nick Xenophon himself), none of whom stood down until the High Court ruled that everyone but two of them (Canavan and Xenophon) were disqualified, leaving the Greens with the moral high ground in this case. And immediately after the "Citizenship Seven" were dealt with, more cases started cropping up, including Senate President Stephen Parry and Liberal MP John Alexander, and over a dozen are still to be determined. Somehow Labor has ''so far'' escaped this whole disaster unscathed, though a few are in the "to be determined" list.[[/note]] As of November 2017, the aforementioned one-seat majority has been lost due to the disqualification of Deputy PM Barnaby Joyce and Liberal MP John Alexander. At present, the government has limited crossbench support in the Lower House, which could get even worse if Joyce and/or Alexander are defeated in coming by-elections. Oh, and the first Newspoll of the same month is 55-45 in favor of Labor, with seven more polls before Turnbull hits the very threshold of Newspolls of the government trailing behind Labor he used to justify removing Abbott...

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Then [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Australian_parliamentary_eligibility_crisis the parliamentary eligibility crisis of of 2017 came out of nowhere]] and bit the government in the ass harder than anyone thought.[[note]]The whole mess started when two Greens senators (Scott Ludlam and Larissa Waters) immediately resigned due to running afoul of Section 44 of the Constitution (which forbids Members of Parliament from holding dual-citizenship). Shortly after the Greens were mocked for not getting their paperwork in order, five other parliamentarians were discovered to also be potentially in breach (three Nationals (National Party Leader and Deputy PM Barnaby Joyce, Matt Canavan and Fiona Nash), one ONP senator (Malcom Roberts, who hilariously tried the "I don't believe I'm a British citizen so I'm not" argument, which didn't fly in court) and Nick Xenophon himself), none of whom stood down until the High Court ruled that everyone but two of them (Canavan and Xenophon) were disqualified, leaving the Greens with the moral high ground in this case. And immediately after the "Citizenship Seven" were dealt with, more cases started cropping up, including Senate President Stephen Parry and Liberal MP John Alexander, and over a dozen are still to be determined. Somehow Labor has ''so far'' escaped this whole disaster unscathed, though a few are in the "to be determined" list.[[/note]] As This put the Government in danger of November 2017, losing the aforementioned one-seat majority has been lost due to the disqualification of Deputy PM majority, until both Barnaby Joyce and Liberal MP John Alexander. At present, Alexander were re-elected in late 2017. Nevertheless, the government still has limited crossbench support in the Lower House, which could get even worse if Joyce and/or Alexander and there are defeated in coming by-elections. Oh, and the first Newspoll of the same month is 55-45 in favor of Labor, with seven just a few more polls before Turnbull hits the very threshold of Newspolls of the government trailing behind Labor he used to justify removing Abbott...
24th Nov '17 11:54:56 AM nombretomado
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* '''John Gorton''' (Liberal Party), Prime Minister 1968 to 1971, and the first openly non-religious PM. Can be best summed up as being Australia's GeraldFord. After Harold Holt disappeared, Gorton was plucked from the Senate to be his permanent replacement, being selected after a lot of factional in-fighting within the Coalition over who'd take over. Described by John Howard as a "Tory Larrikin" and "Australian to the boot-heels", Gorton was a proud nationalist who fought as a fighter pilot in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and was severely wounded several times (his face literally bearing the scars of war). He single-handedly revitalised the Australian film industry, and gave vital government support to the arts. Gorton ended up losing much of his initial popularity (largely due to the rise of Gough Whitlam), just scraping re-election in 1969 (and only then due to DLP preferences), and losing a leadership challenge to William [=McMahon=] 18 months later. Died in 2002.

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* '''John Gorton''' (Liberal Party), Prime Minister 1968 to 1971, and the first openly non-religious PM. Can be best summed up as being Australia's GeraldFord.UsefulNotes/GeraldFord. After Harold Holt disappeared, Gorton was plucked from the Senate to be his permanent replacement, being selected after a lot of factional in-fighting within the Coalition over who'd take over. Described by John Howard as a "Tory Larrikin" and "Australian to the boot-heels", Gorton was a proud nationalist who fought as a fighter pilot in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and was severely wounded several times (his face literally bearing the scars of war). He single-handedly revitalised the Australian film industry, and gave vital government support to the arts. Gorton ended up losing much of his initial popularity (largely due to the rise of Gough Whitlam), just scraping re-election in 1969 (and only then due to DLP preferences), and losing a leadership challenge to William [=McMahon=] 18 months later. Died in 2002.
23rd Nov '17 5:41:01 PM ClatoLawa
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Then [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Australian_parliamentary_eligibility_crisis the parliamentary eligibility crisis of of 2017 came out of nowhere]] and bit the government in the ass harder than anyone thought.[[note]]The whole mess started when two Greens senators (Scott Ludlam and Larissa Waters) immediately resigned due to running afoul of Section 44 of the Constitution (which forbids Members of Parliament from holding dual-citizenship). Shortly after the Greens were mocked for not getting their paperwork in order, five other parliamentarians were discovered to also be potentially in breach (three Nationals (National Party Leader and Deputy PM Barnaby Joyce, Matt Canavan and Fiona Nash), one ONP senator (Malcom Roberts, who hilariously tried the "I don't believe I'm a British citizen so I'm not" argument, which didn't fly in court) and Nick Xenophon himself), none of them stood down until the High Court ruled that everyone but two of them (Canavan and Xenophon) were disqualified, leaving the Greens with the moral high ground in this case. Somehow Labor has so far escaped this whole disaster unscathed.[[/note]] As of November 2017, this one-seat majority has been lost due to the disqualification of Deputy PM Barnaby Joyce and Liberal MP John Alexander. At present, the government has limited crossbench support in the Lower House, which could get even worse if Joyce and/or Alexander are defeated in coming by-elections. Oh, and the first Newspoll of the same month is 55-45 in favor of Labor, with seven more polls before Turnbull hits the very threshold of Newspolls of the government trailing behind Labor he used to justify removing Abbott...

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Then [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Australian_parliamentary_eligibility_crisis the parliamentary eligibility crisis of of 2017 came out of nowhere]] and bit the government in the ass harder than anyone thought.[[note]]The whole mess started when two Greens senators (Scott Ludlam and Larissa Waters) immediately resigned due to running afoul of Section 44 of the Constitution (which forbids Members of Parliament from holding dual-citizenship). Shortly after the Greens were mocked for not getting their paperwork in order, five other parliamentarians were discovered to also be potentially in breach (three Nationals (National Party Leader and Deputy PM Barnaby Joyce, Matt Canavan and Fiona Nash), one ONP senator (Malcom Roberts, who hilariously tried the "I don't believe I'm a British citizen so I'm not" argument, which didn't fly in court) and Nick Xenophon himself), none of them whom stood down until the High Court ruled that everyone but two of them (Canavan and Xenophon) were disqualified, leaving the Greens with the moral high ground in this case. And immediately after the "Citizenship Seven" were dealt with, more cases started cropping up, including Senate President Stephen Parry and Liberal MP John Alexander, and over a dozen are still to be determined. Somehow Labor has so far ''so far'' escaped this whole disaster unscathed.unscathed, though a few are in the "to be determined" list.[[/note]] As of November 2017, this the aforementioned one-seat majority has been lost due to the disqualification of Deputy PM Barnaby Joyce and Liberal MP John Alexander. At present, the government has limited crossbench support in the Lower House, which could get even worse if Joyce and/or Alexander are defeated in coming by-elections. Oh, and the first Newspoll of the same month is 55-45 in favor of Labor, with seven more polls before Turnbull hits the very threshold of Newspolls of the government trailing behind Labor he used to justify removing Abbott...
15th Nov '17 3:30:57 PM NanoMoose
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Unfortunately the system has it's weaknesses as you have to number ''every single'' candidate to choose which ones get your preference and in certain high-profile seats that can have over a dozen candidates running, this makes things complicated.

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Unfortunately the system has it's weaknesses as you its weaknesses. You have to number ''every single'' candidate to choose which ones get your preference and in certain high-profile seats that can have over a dozen candidates running, this makes things complicated.
13th Nov '17 4:17:11 AM Cronosonic
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As of October 2017, this one-seat majority has been lost due to the disqualification of National Party Leader and Deputy PM Barnaby Joyce, under Section 44 of the Constitution (which forbids Members of Parliament from holding dual-citizenship). At present, the government has limited crossbench support in the Lower House, which could get even worse if Joyce is defeated in a coming by-election.

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As Then [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Australian_parliamentary_eligibility_crisis the parliamentary eligibility crisis of October 2017, this one-seat majority has been lost of 2017 came out of nowhere]] and bit the government in the ass harder than anyone thought.[[note]]The whole mess started when two Greens senators (Scott Ludlam and Larissa Waters) immediately resigned due to the disqualification running afoul of National Party Leader and Deputy PM Barnaby Joyce, under Section 44 of the Constitution (which forbids Members of Parliament from holding dual-citizenship). Shortly after the Greens were mocked for not getting their paperwork in order, five other parliamentarians were discovered to also be potentially in breach (three Nationals (National Party Leader and Deputy PM Barnaby Joyce, Matt Canavan and Fiona Nash), one ONP senator (Malcom Roberts, who hilariously tried the "I don't believe I'm a British citizen so I'm not" argument, which didn't fly in court) and Nick Xenophon himself), none of them stood down until the High Court ruled that everyone but two of them (Canavan and Xenophon) were disqualified, leaving the Greens with the moral high ground in this case. Somehow Labor has so far escaped this whole disaster unscathed.[[/note]] As of November 2017, this one-seat majority has been lost due to the disqualification of Deputy PM Barnaby Joyce and Liberal MP John Alexander. At present, the government has limited crossbench support in the Lower House, which could get even worse if Joyce is and/or Alexander are defeated in a coming by-election.
by-elections. Oh, and the first Newspoll of the same month is 55-45 in favor of Labor, with seven more polls before Turnbull hits the very threshold of Newspolls of the government trailing behind Labor he used to justify removing Abbott...
30th Oct '17 6:05:43 AM ClatoLawa
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There is also a Deputy Prime Minister. In a Labor Government the Deputy PM is also the deputy leader of the Labor Party, and in a Coalition government s/he is the leader of the smaller party in the Coalition (the Nationals). The Deputy PM's main responsibility is to step in as Acting PM in the event of the Prime Minister being overseas, incapacitated or dead. The current Deputy Prime Minister is Barnaby Joyce, but as of October 2017 he has been ruled ineligible to serve in Parliament by the High Court, due to his failure to renounce his New Zealand citizenship at the time of his nomination as a candidate. The same applies to his Deputy, Senator Fiona Nash.

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There is also a Deputy Prime Minister. In a Labor Government the Deputy PM is also the deputy leader of the Labor Party, and in a Coalition government s/he is the leader of the smaller party in the Coalition (the Nationals). The Deputy PM's main responsibility is to step in as Acting PM in the event of the Prime Minister being overseas, incapacitated or dead. The current Deputy Prime Minister is Barnaby Joyce, but as of October 2017 he has been ruled ineligible to serve in Parliament by the High Court, due to his failure to renounce his New Zealand citizenship at the time of his nomination as a candidate. The same applies to his Deputy, Senator His Deputy Leader Fiona Nash.
Nash has also been disqualified thanks to her inherited British citizenship on her father's side.
30th Oct '17 6:01:56 AM ClatoLawa
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There is also a Deputy Prime Minister. In a Labor Government the Deputy PM is also the deputy leader of the Labor Party, and in a Coalition government s/he is the leader of the smaller party in the Coalition (the Nationals). The Deputy PM's main responsibility is to step in as Acting PM in the event of the Prime Minister being overseas, incapacitated or dead. The current Deputy Prime Minister is Barnaby Joyce.

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There is also a Deputy Prime Minister. In a Labor Government the Deputy PM is also the deputy leader of the Labor Party, and in a Coalition government s/he is the leader of the smaller party in the Coalition (the Nationals). The Deputy PM's main responsibility is to step in as Acting PM in the event of the Prime Minister being overseas, incapacitated or dead. The current Deputy Prime Minister is Barnaby Joyce.
Joyce, but as of October 2017 he has been ruled ineligible to serve in Parliament by the High Court, due to his failure to renounce his New Zealand citizenship at the time of his nomination as a candidate. The same applies to his Deputy, Senator Fiona Nash.



As a result, by the time Turnbull called the 2016 election, his honeymoon was over and he and the Coalition were facing a knife-edged battle to stay in power. They ultimately won, but with only 76 seats out of 150 including the non-voting Speaker literally the smallest majority government possible. Plus, despite changes in Senate rules to avoid "preference gaming" which resulted a rather hostile Senate in 2013, [[PyrrhicVictory the election returned an equally hostile Senate with an even larger cross-bench than before]] complete with ''two'' power blocs in the form of One Nation and the Nick Xenophon Team, both of whom hate each other and are likely much less inclined to capitulate to the government than Clive Palmer ever was, ''[[FromBadToWorse and the government needs both their support to pass anything not supported by Labor or the Greens.]]'' Barely a month after the election, Turnbull had already had to deal with plenty of party infighting and an emboldened right-wing who are still very bitter over the Abbot coup ([[http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/malcolm_turnbull_you_are_finished/ hell, the election result hadn't even been called before right-wing figures started calling for Turnbull's head]], forgetting that had Abbot taken his government to an election it would have been a ''bloodbath''). Turnbull has a monumental challenge before him, ''if'' he isn't the victim of a leadership coup during his term, [[HereWeGoAgain and people are already predicting he'll be out by the end of 2017...]]

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As a result, by the time Turnbull called the 2016 election, his honeymoon was over and he and the Coalition were facing a knife-edged battle to stay in power. They ultimately won, but with only 76 seats out of 150 including the non-voting Speaker literally the smallest majority government possible. Plus, despite changes in Senate rules to avoid "preference gaming" which resulted a rather hostile Senate in 2013, [[PyrrhicVictory the election returned an equally hostile Senate with an even larger cross-bench than before]] complete with ''two'' power blocs in the form of One Nation and the Nick Xenophon Team, both of whom hate each other and are likely much less inclined to capitulate to the government than Clive Palmer ever was, ''[[FromBadToWorse and the government needs both their support to pass anything not supported by Labor or the Greens.]]'' Barely a month after the election, Turnbull had already had to deal with plenty of party infighting and an emboldened right-wing who are still very bitter over the Abbot coup ([[http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/malcolm_turnbull_you_are_finished/ hell, the election result hadn't even been called before right-wing figures started calling for Turnbull's head]], forgetting that had Abbot taken his government to an election it would have been a ''bloodbath''). Turnbull has a monumental challenge before him, ''if'' he isn't the victim of a leadership coup during his term, [[HereWeGoAgain and people are already predicting he'll be out by the end of 2017...]]
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As of October 2017, this one-seat majority has been lost due to the disqualification of National Party Leader and Deputy PM Barnaby Joyce, under Section 44 of the Constitution (which forbids Members of Parliament from holding dual-citizenship). At present, the government has limited crossbench support in the Lower House, which could get even worse if Joyce is defeated in a coming by-election.
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