History UsefulNotes / ArmosWithArmor

31st May '16 6:00:16 AM Doug86
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During the UsefulNotes/FirstWorldWar, Armenians fought on both sides of the conflict as the Ottoman Empire made an ill-fated attempt to invade Russia in the winter, because Armenians happened to also be living on the Russian side. Though there were a number of Armenians working as spies for the Russians, ironically there were a higher number of ''Turkish'' people working as spies too, and besides that the blundering military tactics of [[GeneralFailure General Enver Pasha]] did more to foil the Turkish efforts than anything else. But the Turkish government, now under the control of the Young Turks, accused all of its Armenian civilians of treason after their defeat (when really they had just been waiting for a good enough excuse to get rid of the Armenians since the 1800's), and thus in 1915 the events of the Armenian Genocide unfolded as Turkey sought to expel all Armenians from its borders. Because the Ottoman Empire had conveniently disarmed its minorities and drafted most of their able-bodied men into its army (only to be slaughtered), resistance to the genocide was few and far between. The citizens of Van, however, were able to pull off a resistance similar to the earlier Zeitun Resistance, [[TheSiege holding off the Turkish army with little more than pistols and rifles using recycled bullets]]. Despite being desperately outnumbered, they were able to hold the Turkish siege back long enough for the Russian army to liberate the city. A similar resistance happened at the mountain of Musa Dagh, where the Armenians resisted for 53 days before [[UsefulNotes/GaulsWithGrenades French Warships]] rescued the citizens and brought them to Egypt.

After UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne Armenia was independent for a brief period once they defeated Turkey in the [[LastStand Battle of Sadarapat]] (with its borders drawn by none other than UsefulNotes/WoodrowWilson...though it must be said he only wanted to help the Armenians [[ValuesDissonance because they were Christian]]). In that battle, Turkey attempted to finish the Armenian nation off once and for all (and possibly complete the Armenian Genocide) by moving into the city of Yerevan, but were thankfully defeated by an army of practically any Armenian that could carry a gun, and forced to retreat after decisive defeats in the cities of Karakilisa and Abaran as well. But after being weakened by repeated massacres, disease and famine, and years of nonstop wars with Turkey, Georgia and Azerbaijan, the country was finally conquered and divided between Turkey and the newly-formed Soviet Union (who secretly supplied the Turkish with money and weaponry to gain their help in taking over Armenia), where it was given the boundaries it holds today. Not everyone took this lying down though, and general Garegin Njhdeh (the commander who was in charge of the Karakilisa defense three years earlier) led an armed resistance against the Soviets in 1921, even managing to capture the capital of Yerevan for 42 days until they were pushed south. The southern regions of Armenia would declare independence, though the Republic of Mountainous Armenia was short-lived. Upon being overwhelmed by the Red Army, they negotiated a truce that included the southern province of Syunik being included in the Armenian SSR; an important provision which gave modern Armenia a border with Iran and prevented Turkey and Azerbaijan from surrounding Armenia on three sides.

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During the UsefulNotes/FirstWorldWar, UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, Armenians fought on both sides of the conflict as the Ottoman Empire made an ill-fated attempt to invade Russia in the winter, because Armenians happened to also be living on the Russian side. Though there were a number of Armenians working as spies for the Russians, ironically there were a higher number of ''Turkish'' people working as spies too, and besides that the blundering military tactics of [[GeneralFailure General Enver Pasha]] did more to foil the Turkish efforts than anything else. But the Turkish government, now under the control of the Young Turks, accused all of its Armenian civilians of treason after their defeat (when really they had just been waiting for a good enough excuse to get rid of the Armenians since the 1800's), and thus in 1915 the events of the Armenian Genocide unfolded as Turkey sought to expel all Armenians from its borders. Because the Ottoman Empire had conveniently disarmed its minorities and drafted most of their able-bodied men into its army (only to be slaughtered), resistance to the genocide was few and far between. The citizens of Van, however, were able to pull off a resistance similar to the earlier Zeitun Resistance, [[TheSiege holding off the Turkish army with little more than pistols and rifles using recycled bullets]]. Despite being desperately outnumbered, they were able to hold the Turkish siege back long enough for the Russian army to liberate the city. A similar resistance happened at the mountain of Musa Dagh, where the Armenians resisted for 53 days before [[UsefulNotes/GaulsWithGrenades French Warships]] rescued the citizens and brought them to Egypt.

After UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarI Armenia was independent for a brief period once they defeated Turkey in the [[LastStand Battle of Sadarapat]] (with its borders drawn by none other than UsefulNotes/WoodrowWilson...though it must be said he only wanted to help the Armenians [[ValuesDissonance because they were Christian]]). In that battle, Turkey attempted to finish the Armenian nation off once and for all (and possibly complete the Armenian Genocide) by moving into the city of Yerevan, but were thankfully defeated by an army of practically any Armenian that could carry a gun, and forced to retreat after decisive defeats in the cities of Karakilisa and Abaran as well. But after being weakened by repeated massacres, disease and famine, and years of nonstop wars with Turkey, Georgia and Azerbaijan, the country was finally conquered and divided between Turkey and the newly-formed Soviet Union (who secretly supplied the Turkish with money and weaponry to gain their help in taking over Armenia), where it was given the boundaries it holds today. Not everyone took this lying down though, and general Garegin Njhdeh (the commander who was in charge of the Karakilisa defense three years earlier) led an armed resistance against the Soviets in 1921, even managing to capture the capital of Yerevan for 42 days until they were pushed south. The southern regions of Armenia would declare independence, though the Republic of Mountainous Armenia was short-lived. Upon being overwhelmed by the Red Army, they negotiated a truce that included the southern province of Syunik being included in the Armenian SSR; an important provision which gave modern Armenia a border with Iran and prevented Turkey and Azerbaijan from surrounding Armenia on three sides.



* ChildSoldiers - Sadly occurred during most of the UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne resistance, if only because there simply weren't enough adult men left to defend against the Ottomans. In Van for example troops of Boy Scouts were deployed, though usually their job was to tend to the wounded, collect used bullets and put out fires caused by bombs going off.

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* ChildSoldiers - Sadly occurred during most of the UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarI resistance, if only because there simply weren't enough adult men left to defend against the Ottomans. In Van for example troops of Boy Scouts were deployed, though usually their job was to tend to the wounded, collect used bullets and put out fires caused by bombs going off.



** In late Ottoman times, naturally. Though contrary to the Turkish version of history, at first they just wanted civil rights and a degree of autonomy as Christians faced growing discrimination in the Ottoman Empire, later they just didn't want to be slaughtered. It should be stressed that what happened in Van and Musa Dagh was a ''resistance'', not a rebellion, and these are about the only two cases where the Armenians weren't completely slaughtered or deported into the desert. The subject still can cause InternetBackdraft anywhere the UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne years of the Ottoman Empire are discussed.

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** In late Ottoman times, naturally. Though contrary to the Turkish version of history, at first they just wanted civil rights and a degree of autonomy as Christians faced growing discrimination in the Ottoman Empire, later they just didn't want to be slaughtered. It should be stressed that what happened in Van and Musa Dagh was a ''resistance'', not a rebellion, and these are about the only two cases where the Armenians weren't completely slaughtered or deported into the desert. The subject still can cause InternetBackdraft anywhere the UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarI years of the Ottoman Empire are discussed.
16th Mar '16 5:33:48 PM Exxolon
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9th Mar '16 5:12:06 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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Not to be confused with a [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZelda different type of armored Armos entirely from a certain video game series.]]

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Not to be confused with a [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZelda [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda different type of armored Armos entirely from a certain video game series.]]
7th Feb '16 12:55:42 PM Surenity
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* ''Njhdeh'' - An Armenian-made BioPic about Garegin Njhdeh including his military experiences.
7th Feb '16 12:50:41 PM Surenity
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* TheRemnant: Artsakh, Sasun and Cilicia after the Seljuk Turk invasion. Of these three Artsakh has still never been fully conquered, and was always left at least semi-autonomous, due to its inaccessibility.

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* TheRemnant: Artsakh, Lori, Sasun and Cilicia after the Seljuk Turk invasion. Of these three four Artsakh has still never been fully conquered, and was always left at least semi-autonomous, due to its inaccessibility.
7th Feb '16 12:39:31 PM Surenity
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After UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne Armenia was independent for a brief period once they defeated Turkey in the [[LastStand Battle of Sadarapat]] (with its borders drawn by none other than UsefulNotes/WoodrowWilson...though it must be said he only wanted to help the Armenians [[ValuesDissonance because they were Christian]]). In that battle, Turkey attempted to finish the Armenian nation off once and for all (and possibly complete the Armenian Genocide) by moving into the city of Yerevan, but were thankfully defeated by an army of practically any Armenian that could carry a gun, and forced to retreat after decisive defeats in the cities of Karakilisa and Abaran as well. But after being weakened by repeated massacres, disease and famine, and years of nonstop wars with Turkey, Georgia and Azerbaijan, the country was finally conquered and divided between Turkey and the newly-formed Soviet Union (who secretly supplied the Turkish with money and weaponry to gain their help in taking over Armenia), where it was given the boundaries it holds today. Not everyone took this lying down though, and general Garegin Njhdeh led an armed resistance against the Soviets in 1921, even managing to capture the capital of Yerevan for 42 days until they were pushed south. The southern regions of Armenia would declare independence, though the Republic of Mountainous Armenia was short-lived. Upon being overwhelmed by the Red Army, they negotiated a truce that included the southern province of Syunik being included in the Armenian SSR; an important provision which gave modern Armenia a border with Iran and prevented Turkey and Azerbaijan from surrounding Armenia on three sides.

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After UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne Armenia was independent for a brief period once they defeated Turkey in the [[LastStand Battle of Sadarapat]] (with its borders drawn by none other than UsefulNotes/WoodrowWilson...though it must be said he only wanted to help the Armenians [[ValuesDissonance because they were Christian]]). In that battle, Turkey attempted to finish the Armenian nation off once and for all (and possibly complete the Armenian Genocide) by moving into the city of Yerevan, but were thankfully defeated by an army of practically any Armenian that could carry a gun, and forced to retreat after decisive defeats in the cities of Karakilisa and Abaran as well. But after being weakened by repeated massacres, disease and famine, and years of nonstop wars with Turkey, Georgia and Azerbaijan, the country was finally conquered and divided between Turkey and the newly-formed Soviet Union (who secretly supplied the Turkish with money and weaponry to gain their help in taking over Armenia), where it was given the boundaries it holds today. Not everyone took this lying down though, and general Garegin Njhdeh (the commander who was in charge of the Karakilisa defense three years earlier) led an armed resistance against the Soviets in 1921, even managing to capture the capital of Yerevan for 42 days until they were pushed south. The southern regions of Armenia would declare independence, though the Republic of Mountainous Armenia was short-lived. Upon being overwhelmed by the Red Army, they negotiated a truce that included the southern province of Syunik being included in the Armenian SSR; an important provision which gave modern Armenia a border with Iran and prevented Turkey and Azerbaijan from surrounding Armenia on three sides.
7th Feb '16 11:40:14 AM Surenity
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After UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne Armenia was independent for a brief period once they defeated Turkey in the [[LastStand Battle of Sadarapat]] (with its borders drawn by none other than UsefulNotes/WoodrowWilson...though it must be said he only wanted to help the Armenians [[ValuesDissonance because they were Christian]]). In that battle, Turkey attempted to finish the Armenian nation off once and for all (and possibly complete the Armenian Genocide) by moving into the city of Yerevan, but were thankfully defeated by an army of practically any Armenian that could carry a gun, and forced to retreat. But after being weakened by repeated massacres, disease and famine, and years of nonstop wars with Turkey, Georgia and Azerbaijan, the country was finally conquered and divided between Turkey and the newly-formed Soviet Union (who secretly supplied the Turkish with money and weaponry to gain their help in taking over Armenia), where it was given the boundaries it holds today. Thousands of Armenians would fight on the Soviet side in the UsefulNotes/GreatPatrioticWar years later, with many of its citizens being drafted (see also UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets since Armenia was a part of the Soviet Union at the time).

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After UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne Armenia was independent for a brief period once they defeated Turkey in the [[LastStand Battle of Sadarapat]] (with its borders drawn by none other than UsefulNotes/WoodrowWilson...though it must be said he only wanted to help the Armenians [[ValuesDissonance because they were Christian]]). In that battle, Turkey attempted to finish the Armenian nation off once and for all (and possibly complete the Armenian Genocide) by moving into the city of Yerevan, but were thankfully defeated by an army of practically any Armenian that could carry a gun, and forced to retreat.retreat after decisive defeats in the cities of Karakilisa and Abaran as well. But after being weakened by repeated massacres, disease and famine, and years of nonstop wars with Turkey, Georgia and Azerbaijan, the country was finally conquered and divided between Turkey and the newly-formed Soviet Union (who secretly supplied the Turkish with money and weaponry to gain their help in taking over Armenia), where it was given the boundaries it holds today. Not everyone took this lying down though, and general Garegin Njhdeh led an armed resistance against the Soviets in 1921, even managing to capture the capital of Yerevan for 42 days until they were pushed south. The southern regions of Armenia would declare independence, though the Republic of Mountainous Armenia was short-lived. Upon being overwhelmed by the Red Army, they negotiated a truce that included the southern province of Syunik being included in the Armenian SSR; an important provision which gave modern Armenia a border with Iran and prevented Turkey and Azerbaijan from surrounding Armenia on three sides.

Thousands of Armenians would fight on the Soviet side in the UsefulNotes/GreatPatrioticWar years later, with many of its citizens being drafted (see also UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets since Armenia was a part of the Soviet Union at the time).
7th Feb '16 10:06:15 AM nombretomado
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After the fall of the Bagratuni kingdom, a mass exodus of Armenians settled in the region of Cilicia, north of Cyprus on the Mediterranean coast where the wars between the Arabs and Byzantines had left the land depopulated, and established a kingdom there from 1199 to 1375. Later on the Cilcian Armenians became key players in TheCrusades, of course on the side of the Christian European crusaders. The Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia joined European forces in invading the Holy Land during this time. This earned them an ArchEnemy in the form of the Mamluks, an Islamic people who'd dominated Egypt. By the time Ghengis Khan and the Mongols started making their rounds into Europe and the Middle East, leaving devastation in their wake, Cilicia played it smart and King Hetum I sent a representative all the way to Mongolia to negotiate an alliance. The Mongols agreed, and together they attacked the Mamluks. Sadly, they were both defeated, and this not only ended the Mongol expansion into the Middle East but things would spiral downward for Cilicia in the ensuing decades as well. Not only did Cilicia lose the protection of the Mongols, but it's kings converted to Catholicism and attempted to force the populace to convert, which did not go over well; on two separate occasions, peasant uprisings got far enough out of hand to result in a king's assassination. In it's weakness, the Mamluks took advantage and finally conquered Cilicia in 1375. And shortly thereafter, the Ottoman Turks would take Cilicia from the Mamluks, though a substantial Armenian population would remain there until 1915.

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After the fall of the Bagratuni kingdom, a mass exodus of Armenians settled in the region of Cilicia, north of Cyprus on the Mediterranean coast where the wars between the Arabs and Byzantines had left the land depopulated, and established a kingdom there from 1199 to 1375. Later on the Cilcian Armenians became key players in TheCrusades, UsefulNotes/TheCrusades, of course on the side of the Christian European crusaders. The Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia joined European forces in invading the Holy Land during this time. This earned them an ArchEnemy in the form of the Mamluks, an Islamic people who'd dominated Egypt. By the time Ghengis Khan and the Mongols started making their rounds into Europe and the Middle East, leaving devastation in their wake, Cilicia played it smart and King Hetum I sent a representative all the way to Mongolia to negotiate an alliance. The Mongols agreed, and together they attacked the Mamluks. Sadly, they were both defeated, and this not only ended the Mongol expansion into the Middle East but things would spiral downward for Cilicia in the ensuing decades as well. Not only did Cilicia lose the protection of the Mongols, but it's kings converted to Catholicism and attempted to force the populace to convert, which did not go over well; on two separate occasions, peasant uprisings got far enough out of hand to result in a king's assassination. In it's weakness, the Mamluks took advantage and finally conquered Cilicia in 1375. And shortly thereafter, the Ottoman Turks would take Cilicia from the Mamluks, though a substantial Armenian population would remain there until 1915.
24th Jan '16 1:19:18 PM Morgenthaler
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Armenia today has a very effective and modernized military, consisting of an army and an air force (though, being located where it is, no navy), and receives aid from Russia and [[ThisIsHellas Greece]] among other allies. Males of age 19 are conscripted into the military for two years, though females can serve in the military as well. Armenia continues to build up it's army due to constant threat from Azerbaijan, but it's overall approach since the ceasefire has been a peaceful one, akin to Roosevelt's "speak softly and carry a big stick" philosophy. Recently Russia has increased its military presence in Armenia, signing an agreement which stipulated that Russian troops will be stationed there until at least 2044. They also stipulated that they would remain neutral if Azerbaijan started another war with Armenia over Nagorno-Karabakh, but they would still provide military equipment to Armenia. However, Armenia is a member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, an alliance of Central Asian countries (including Russia) that protect one another if they are attacked, so if Armenia were to be directly attacked by Azerbaijan it could count on their support. However, Nagorno-Karabakh, being a non-member and an unrecognized country, is not a part of that agreement. One can hope that cooler heads will prevail.

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Armenia today has a very effective and modernized military, consisting of an army and an air force (though, being located where it is, no navy), and receives aid from Russia and [[ThisIsHellas Greece]] Greece among other allies. Males of age 19 are conscripted into the military for two years, though females can serve in the military as well. Armenia continues to build up it's army due to constant threat from Azerbaijan, but it's overall approach since the ceasefire has been a peaceful one, akin to Roosevelt's "speak softly and carry a big stick" philosophy. Recently Russia has increased its military presence in Armenia, signing an agreement which stipulated that Russian troops will be stationed there until at least 2044. They also stipulated that they would remain neutral if Azerbaijan started another war with Armenia over Nagorno-Karabakh, but they would still provide military equipment to Armenia. However, Armenia is a member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, an alliance of Central Asian countries (including Russia) that protect one another if they are attacked, so if Armenia were to be directly attacked by Azerbaijan it could count on their support. However, Nagorno-Karabakh, being a non-member and an unrecognized country, is not a part of that agreement. One can hope that cooler heads will prevail.
27th Apr '15 1:19:48 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''{{Ararat}}'' -- Features a few scenes of the Van Resistance in it's [[ShowWithinAShow movie within a movie.]]

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* ''{{Ararat}}'' ''Film/{{Ararat}}'' -- Features a few scenes of the Van Resistance in it's [[ShowWithinAShow movie within a movie.]]



* ''The Forty Days of Musa Dagh'' by Franz Werfel -- A novel based on the Musa Dagh Resistance.

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* ''The Forty Days of Musa Dagh'' by Franz Werfel -- A novel based on the Musa Dagh Resistance.Resistance.

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