History UsefulNotes / ArabIsraeliConflict

15th Jul '16 11:51:24 PM karstovich2
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* Manages to appear in the ''Literature/HyperionCantos'', in which [[ColonizedSolarSystem Mars]] has become home to the Palestinians after this conflict turns into a big ShaggyDogStory: the Palestinians manage to win their independence, only for an unrelated Middle Eastern nuclear war to render Palestine uninhabitable within ''weeks'' of the establishment of the new state. The remaining Palestinians decamp to the Red Planet as a result; among their descendants are [[ColonelBadass Col. Fedmahn Kassad]]. (The Israelis/Jews, for their part, appear to have responded to the same disaster by settling a planet in another system that they named Hebron, which consists of the metropolis New Jerusalem and a surrounding desert containing a number of kibbutzim--one of which is eventually home to Sol Weintraub and his family, which includes [[spoiler:Rachael Weintraub, a/k/a Moneta, a/k/a Col. Kassad's lover.]].)

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* Manages to appear in the ''Literature/HyperionCantos'', in which [[ColonizedSolarSystem Mars]] has become home to the Palestinians after this conflict turns into a big ShaggyDogStory: ShootTheShaggyDog story: the Palestinians manage to win their independence, only for an unrelated Middle Eastern nuclear war to render Palestine uninhabitable within ''weeks'' of the establishment of the new state. The remaining Palestinians decamp to the Red Planet as a result; among their descendants are [[ColonelBadass Col. Fedmahn Kassad]]. (The Israelis/Jews, for their part, appear to have responded to the same disaster by settling a planet in another system that they named Hebron, which consists of the metropolis New Jerusalem and a surrounding desert containing a number of kibbutzim--one of which is eventually home to Sol Weintraub and his family, which includes [[spoiler:Rachael Weintraub, a/k/a Moneta, a/k/a Col. Kassad's lover.]].)
15th Jul '16 11:49:15 PM karstovich2
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* Manages to appear in the ''Literature/HyperionCantos'', in which [[ColonizedSolarSystem Mars]] has become home to the Palestinians after this conflict turns into a big ShaggyDogStory: the Palestinians manage to win their independence, only for an unrelated Middle Eastern nuclear war to render Palestine uninhabitable within ''weeks'' of the establishment of the new state. The remaining Palestinians decamp to the Red Planet as a result; among their descendants are [[ColonelBadass Col. Fedmahn Kassad]]. (The Israelis/Jews, for their part, appear to have responded to the same disaster by settling a planet in another system that they named Hebron, which consists of the metropolis New Jerusalem and a surrounding desert containing a number of kibbutzim--one of which is eventually home to Sol Weintraub and his family, which includes [[spoiler:Rachael Weintraub, a/k/a Moneta, a/k/a Col. Kassad's lover.]].)
9th Jul '16 10:10:55 AM Macecurb
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See also: UsefulNotes/IsraelisWithInfraredMissiles, UsefulNotes/EgyptiansWithEagleFighters, and UsefulNotes/WarriorsOfTheDesertWind.

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See also: UsefulNotes/IsraelisWithInfraredMissiles, UsefulNotes/EgyptiansWithEagleFighters, and UsefulNotes/WarriorsOfTheDesertWind.
Main/WarriorsOfTheDesertWind.
9th Jul '16 10:07:16 AM Macecurb
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The conflict can fall into the lines in the WithUsOrAgainstUs category as well. Countries and groups taking sides of this conflict will often find themselves with ''really'' negative attitudes and diplomatic relations with the other party. This is one of the main reasons why the United States's support of Israel makes it extremely difficult to maintain good diplomatic relations with many Arab majority countries. At the same time, Russia's military and economic support with many Arab regimes like Syria's Assad's regime [[note]]along with Russia's bad history of anti-Semitism[[/note]] made it difficult [[note]]but improving when compared to the Soviet Union times[[/note]] to maintain good relations with Israel. On the other hand, many countries managed to TakeAThirdOption and decided ''not'' to take sides in the conflict; many of said countries have managed to maintain stable and reasonable relations with both parties. [[note]]China fits into this group; see TheOtherWiki's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Arab_relations articles]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Israel_relations on this]].[[/note]]

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The conflict can fall into the lines in the WithUsOrAgainstUs category as well. Countries and groups taking sides of this conflict will often find themselves with ''really'' negative attitudes and diplomatic relations with the other party. This is one of the main reasons why the United States's support of Israel makes it extremely difficult to maintain good diplomatic relations with many Arab majority countries. At the same time, Russia's military and economic support with many Arab regimes like Syria's Assad's regime [[note]]along with Russia's bad history of anti-Semitism[[/note]] made it difficult [[note]]but improving when compared to the Soviet Union times[[/note]] to maintain good relations with Israel. On the other hand, many countries managed to TakeAThirdOption and decided ''not'' to take sides in the conflict; many of said countries have managed to maintain stable and reasonable relations with both parties. [[note]]China fits into this group; see TheOtherWiki's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Arab_relations articles]] [[http://en.[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Israel_relations org/wiki/China-Israel_relations on this]].[[/note]]
31st May '16 6:36:24 AM Doug86
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* UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne: Actually ''not'' an example, since the TurksWithTroops hated almost everybody equally and Arab Nationalists fought alongside Zionists in the Western Allied militaries to throw them out of what is now Israel/Palestine, which they eventually did to much rejoicing. What makes this important enough to list is that it sets the groundwork of the conflict when the time came to divvy up the spoils. This was because the British, in order to bring both the Jews and the Arabs as into the war, [[PlayingBothSides simultaneously promised]] Palestine to both the Zionists (in the Balfour Declaration) ''and'' the Arabs under Hussein bin Ali, Sharif of Mecca (in the [=McMahon=]–Hussein Correspondence).[[note]]Although Britain may have actually been planning to double-cross both sides and share the Ottoman territory with the French through the Sykes-Picot Agreement instead.[[/note]] And for the purposes of this article, ''that'' is [[StartOfDarkness where the big problems start]].

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* UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne: UsefulNotes/WorldWarI: Actually ''not'' an example, since the TurksWithTroops hated almost everybody equally and Arab Nationalists fought alongside Zionists in the Western Allied militaries to throw them out of what is now Israel/Palestine, which they eventually did to much rejoicing. What makes this important enough to list is that it sets the groundwork of the conflict when the time came to divvy up the spoils. This was because the British, in order to bring both the Jews and the Arabs as into the war, [[PlayingBothSides simultaneously promised]] Palestine to both the Zionists (in the Balfour Declaration) ''and'' the Arabs under Hussein bin Ali, Sharif of Mecca (in the [=McMahon=]–Hussein Correspondence).[[note]]Although Britain may have actually been planning to double-cross both sides and share the Ottoman territory with the French through the Sykes-Picot Agreement instead.[[/note]] And for the purposes of this article, ''that'' is [[StartOfDarkness where the big problems start]].
12th May '16 2:10:34 AM Doug86
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It should also be noted that despite its length (well over 60 years) and the attention it gets on the international media, the ArabIsraeliConflict is actually one of the ''least'' bloody of the ongoing conflicts in the world today, with the combined death toll [[http://www.danielpipes.org/4990/arab-israeli-fatalities-rank-49th not even reaching the 60,000 mark.]] On the other hand, literally ''everyone'' in the area, Israelis and Palestinians, knows ''[[ItsPersonal someone]]'' [[ItsPersonal who was killed or injured by the other side]]... so perhaps the stubbornness involved is a little more understandable, no?

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It should also be noted that despite its length (well over 60 years) and the attention it gets on the international media, the ArabIsraeliConflict Arab-Israeli Conflict is actually one of the ''least'' bloody of the ongoing conflicts in the world today, with the combined death toll [[http://www.danielpipes.org/4990/arab-israeli-fatalities-rank-49th not even reaching the 60,000 mark.]] On the other hand, literally ''everyone'' in the area, Israelis and Palestinians, knows ''[[ItsPersonal someone]]'' [[ItsPersonal who was killed or injured by the other side]]... so perhaps the stubbornness involved is a little more understandable, no?
5th May '16 4:29:06 PM Faberlich
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* The 2009 film ''Film/{{Lebanon}}'' follows a tank crew during the 1982 invasion in Lebanon.
12th Apr '16 11:02:40 PM SSJMagus
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As a result of the Oslo Accords, [[{{UsefulNotes/Jordan}} Jordan]] (whose population is at least 50% Palestinian refugees) became the second Arab country to formally recognize Israel (in 1994). Before this time, Jordan had had good relations with Israel under the table; the agreements allowed these relations to become more open.

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As a result of the Oslo Accords, [[{{UsefulNotes/Jordan}} Jordan]] (whose population is at least 50% Palestinian refugees) became the second Arab country to formally recognize Israel (in 1994). Before this time, Jordan had had good relations with Israel under the table; table (King Hussein, a military-trained helicopter pilot of considerable skill, would periodically fly his personal chopper under the radar to secret meetings in Israel); the agreements allowed these relations to become more open.
24th Jan '16 2:20:40 PM Morgenthaler
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* TheClash's ''Rock The Casbah'' has been interpreted to be about this, although it was really about [[BannedInChina censorship of popular music]] by Ayatollah Khomeini after seizing power in {{Iran}} in 1979. Subverted in the music video, where a [[AllJewsAreAshkenazi Haredi Jew]] and an [[ArabOilSheikh Arab sheikh]] are seen skank-dancing together all the way to a Clash concert.

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* TheClash's Music/TheClash's ''Rock The Casbah'' has been interpreted to be about this, although it was really about [[BannedInChina censorship of popular music]] by Ayatollah Khomeini after seizing power in {{Iran}} UsefulNotes/{{Iran}} in 1979. Subverted in the music video, where a [[AllJewsAreAshkenazi Haredi Jew]] and an [[ArabOilSheikh Arab sheikh]] are seen skank-dancing together all the way to a Clash concert.
24th Jan '16 12:58:39 PM Morgenthaler
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See also: IsraelisWithInfraredMissiles, EgyptiansWithEagleFighters, and WarriorsOfTheDesertWind.

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See also: IsraelisWithInfraredMissiles, EgyptiansWithEagleFighters, UsefulNotes/IsraelisWithInfraredMissiles, UsefulNotes/EgyptiansWithEagleFighters, and WarriorsOfTheDesertWind.
UsefulNotes/WarriorsOfTheDesertWind.



* WorldWarOne: Actually ''not'' an example, since the TurksWithTroops hated almost everybody equally and Arab Nationalists fought alongside Zionists in the Western Allied militaries to throw them out of what is now Israel/Palestine, which they eventually did to much rejoicing. What makes this important enough to list is that it sets the groundwork of the conflict when the time came to divvy up the spoils. This was because the British, in order to bring both the Jews and the Arabs as into the war, [[PlayingBothSides simultaneously promised]] Palestine to both the Zionists (in the Balfour Declaration) ''and'' the Arabs under Hussein bin Ali, Sharif of Mecca (in the [=McMahon=]–Hussein Correspondence).[[note]]Although Britain may have actually been planning to double-cross both sides and share the Ottoman territory with the French through the Sykes-Picot Agreement instead.[[/note]] And for the purposes of this article, ''that'' is [[StartOfDarkness where the big problems start]].
* The WorldWarOne Aftermath and the 1920's: What is now the British Mandate of Palestine receives two hordes of very different immigrants and sees the fault lines for what comes later. Jews and Zionists come in to create the dream project they've envisioned for so long and often to escape a war-torn Europe and Middle East while Arabs -- most of whom were poor tenant farmers from the North who were arguably worse than Serfs under Ottoman law -- take their chance to ditch their [[FeudalOverlord feudal overlords]] and the war ravaged homelands to try and run to what they hope will be greener pastures in Israel/Palestine. Both succeed rather well, and within a matter of months huge and relatively thriving immigrant communities have latched on to the pre-existing Israeli and Arab communities [[FromBadToWorse just in time to take sides in the tussle between the Western Empires and the Hashemites over who gets the Middle East]]. This eventually culminates in a French war to toss a Hashemite monarchy out of Syria that has some splash over into the Palestinian Mandate. This doesn't seem like much, but it does trigger ideological awakenings of Arab nationalism among the Palestinian Arabs and Zionism among the settler Jews. Quickly takes militant turns, and soon the decade is wracked by increasing tension and infighting. See the Battle of Tel-Hai and the pogroms of 1920, 1921, and 1929. In the midst of all this, the British decide to appoint a new Mufti of Jerusalem to legitimize their rule and decide on [[TheFundamentalist Amin al-Husseini]], a distinguished cleric and Haj. [[EveryoneHasStandards In spite of warnings from just about everybody else-including the Arab community]] they eventually do so. This proves to be a big mistake.

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* WorldWarOne: UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne: Actually ''not'' an example, since the TurksWithTroops hated almost everybody equally and Arab Nationalists fought alongside Zionists in the Western Allied militaries to throw them out of what is now Israel/Palestine, which they eventually did to much rejoicing. What makes this important enough to list is that it sets the groundwork of the conflict when the time came to divvy up the spoils. This was because the British, in order to bring both the Jews and the Arabs as into the war, [[PlayingBothSides simultaneously promised]] Palestine to both the Zionists (in the Balfour Declaration) ''and'' the Arabs under Hussein bin Ali, Sharif of Mecca (in the [=McMahon=]–Hussein Correspondence).[[note]]Although Britain may have actually been planning to double-cross both sides and share the Ottoman territory with the French through the Sykes-Picot Agreement instead.[[/note]] And for the purposes of this article, ''that'' is [[StartOfDarkness where the big problems start]].
* The WorldWarOne WWI Aftermath and the 1920's: What is now the British Mandate of Palestine receives two hordes of very different immigrants and sees the fault lines for what comes later. Jews and Zionists come in to create the dream project they've envisioned for so long and often to escape a war-torn Europe and Middle East while Arabs -- most of whom were poor tenant farmers from the North who were arguably worse than Serfs under Ottoman law -- take their chance to ditch their [[FeudalOverlord feudal overlords]] and the war ravaged homelands to try and run to what they hope will be greener pastures in Israel/Palestine. Both succeed rather well, and within a matter of months huge and relatively thriving immigrant communities have latched on to the pre-existing Israeli and Arab communities [[FromBadToWorse just in time to take sides in the tussle between the Western Empires and the Hashemites over who gets the Middle East]]. This eventually culminates in a French war to toss a Hashemite monarchy out of Syria that has some splash over into the Palestinian Mandate. This doesn't seem like much, but it does trigger ideological awakenings of Arab nationalism among the Palestinian Arabs and Zionism among the settler Jews. Quickly takes militant turns, and soon the decade is wracked by increasing tension and infighting. See the Battle of Tel-Hai and the pogroms of 1920, 1921, and 1929. In the midst of all this, the British decide to appoint a new Mufti of Jerusalem to legitimize their rule and decide on [[TheFundamentalist Amin al-Husseini]], a distinguished cleric and Haj. [[EveryoneHasStandards In spite of warnings from just about everybody else-including the Arab community]] they eventually do so. This proves to be a big mistake.
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