History UnwinnableByMistake / Other

1st Jun '14 2:26:30 PM Thenakedcat
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** Any behavior that deviates from the Paradox Space-determined Alpha Timeline will create a fully-doomed offshoot. The only thing that can be salvaged is information passed to the Alpha Timeline [[spoiler:such as Davesprite's knowledge about the trap Terezi laid for John]].
** The destined player chain must be completed for the session to be winnable. This can go wrong in several ways: Loss of the original game discs requires finding replacements. [[spoiler:Dave has strife his older brother for the only replacement copy, then use a game hack to replace John's lost server disc.]] Entry must be achieved before the meteor timer runs out. [[spoiler:In the [[BadFuture offshoot timeline]] Davesprite came from, John died fighting his [[ThresholdGuardian Denizen]] [[SequenceBreaking too early in the game]]. Without him, Jade was unable to enter the Medium and (presumably) died when the meteor struck her house. Dave and Rose can't progress past a certain point without their co-players, and Dave is forced to travel back in time to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong.]] A player dies before entry [[spoiler: without a backup dream self, which salvages the troll session after Aradia and Sollux's deaths]].
** The sprite prototyping process can break the game if not done with extreme care. First, pre-entry prototyping must be completed by all players for the Battlefield to reach the correct end-game form. [[spoiler:The post-Scratch humans are all prevented from prototyping until after entry, resulting in a Void Game that is unwinnable without external intervention.]] Second, the item used for prototyping is vitally important as the game's villains gain powers and traits based on it. [[spoiler:The pre-Scratch humans accidentally prototyped [[DimensionLord Becquerel]] and gave their enemies [[RealityWarper godlike powers]] that broke the game so badly one of their bosses escaped their session and screwed over ''the trolls''. In the post-Scratch troll session, the Black Queen took Aradia's frog prototyping as a personal insult.]]

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** Any behavior that deviates from the Paradox Space-determined Alpha Timeline will create a fully-doomed offshoot.doomed and unwinnable offshoot timeline. The only thing that can be salvaged is information passed to the Alpha Timeline [[spoiler:such as Davesprite's knowledge about the trap Terezi laid for John]].
** The destined player chain must be completed for the session to be winnable. This can go wrong in several ways: Loss of the original game discs requires finding replacements. [[spoiler:Dave has to strife his older brother for the only replacement extra copy, then use a game hack to replace John's lost server disc.]] Entry must be achieved before the meteor timer runs out. [[spoiler:In the [[BadFuture offshoot timeline]] Davesprite came from, John died fighting his [[ThresholdGuardian Denizen]] [[SequenceBreaking too early in the game]]. Without him, Jade was unable to enter the Medium and (presumably) died when the meteor struck her house. Dave and Rose can't progress past a certain point without their co-players, and Dave is forced to travel back in time to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong.]] A player dies before entry [[spoiler: without a [[JustifiedExtraLives backup dream self, which salvages self]]. [[spoiler: Dream-selves salvage the post-Scratch troll session after Aradia and Sollux's deaths, and the post-Scratch human session after Roxy and Dirk's deaths]].
** The sprite prototyping process can break the game if not done with extreme care. First, pre-entry prototyping must be completed by all players for the Battlefield to reach the correct end-game form. [[spoiler:The post-Scratch humans are all prevented from prototyping until after entry, resulting in a Void Game that is unwinnable without external intervention.]] Second, the item used for prototyping is vitally important as the game's villains gain powers and traits based on it. [[spoiler:The pre-Scratch humans accidentally prototyped [[DimensionLord Becquerel]] and gave their enemies [[RealityWarper godlike powers]] that broke the game so badly one of their the bosses escaped their session and screwed over ''the trolls''. In the post-Scratch troll session, the Black Queen took Aradia's frog prototyping as a personal insult.]]
30th May '14 9:05:51 AM Thenakedcat
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** Any behavior that deviates from the Paradox Space-determined Alpha Timeline will create a fully-doomed offshoot. The only thing that can be salvaged is information passed to the Alpha Timeline, [[spoiler:such as Davesprite's knowledge about the trap Terezi laid for John]].
** The destined player chain must be completed for the session to be winnable. This can go wrong in several ways: [[spoiler:Dave]] loses the original game discs and has to find replacements or risk breaking the chain. Entry must be achieved before the meteor timer runs out. [[spoiler:That happened in the [[BadFuture offshoot timeline]] Davesprite came from: John died fighting his [[ThresholdGuardian Denizen]] [[SequenceBreaking too early in the game]] Without him, Jade (presumably) dies since she is unable to enter the Medium and escape from the meteor that later strikes her house. Dave and Rose can't progress past a certain point without their help, and Dave is forced to travel back in time to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong.]] A player dies before entry [[spoiler: without a backup dream self, which salvages the troll session after Aradia and Sollux's deaths]].
** The sprite prototyping process can break the game if not done with extreme care. First, pre-entry prototyping must be completed by all players for the Battlefield to reach the correct end-game form. [[spoiler:The post-Scratch players are all prevented from prototyping, resulting in a Void Game that is unwinnable without outside aid.]] Second, the item used for prototyping is vitally important as the game's villains gain powers and traits based on it. [[spoiler:The pre-Scratch players accidentally prototyped [[DimensionLord Becquerel]] and gave their enemies [[RealityWarper godlike powers]] that broke the game so badly one of their bosses escaped their session and screwed over ''the trolls''.]]
** ANY action that deviates from the Paradox Space-determined Alpha Timeline will result in fully doomed offshoot timeline. The only thing that can be salvaged from a doomed timeline is information passed to the Alpha to avert disaster.

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** Any behavior that deviates from the Paradox Space-determined Alpha Timeline will create a fully-doomed offshoot. The only thing that can be salvaged is information passed to the Alpha Timeline, Timeline [[spoiler:such as Davesprite's knowledge about the trap Terezi laid for John]].
** The destined player chain must be completed for the session to be winnable. This can go wrong in several ways: [[spoiler:Dave]] loses Loss of the original game discs and requires finding replacements. [[spoiler:Dave has to find replacements or risk breaking strife his older brother for the chain. only replacement copy, then use a game hack to replace John's lost server disc.]] Entry must be achieved before the meteor timer runs out. [[spoiler:That happened in [[spoiler:In the [[BadFuture offshoot timeline]] Davesprite came from: from, John died fighting his [[ThresholdGuardian Denizen]] [[SequenceBreaking too early in the game]] game]]. Without him, Jade (presumably) dies since she is was unable to enter the Medium and escape from (presumably) died when the meteor that later strikes struck her house. Dave and Rose can't progress past a certain point without their help, co-players, and Dave is forced to travel back in time to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong.]] A player dies before entry [[spoiler: without a backup dream self, which salvages the troll session after Aradia and Sollux's deaths]].
** The sprite prototyping process can break the game if not done with extreme care. First, pre-entry prototyping must be completed by all players for the Battlefield to reach the correct end-game form. [[spoiler:The post-Scratch players humans are all prevented from prototyping, prototyping until after entry, resulting in a Void Game that is unwinnable without outside aid.external intervention.]] Second, the item used for prototyping is vitally important as the game's villains gain powers and traits based on it. [[spoiler:The pre-Scratch players humans accidentally prototyped [[DimensionLord Becquerel]] and gave their enemies [[RealityWarper godlike powers]] that broke the game so badly one of their bosses escaped their session and screwed over ''the trolls''.]]
** ANY action that deviates from
trolls''. In the Paradox Space-determined Alpha Timeline will result in fully doomed offshoot timeline. The only thing that can be salvaged from a doomed timeline is information passed to post-Scratch troll session, the Alpha to avert disaster.Black Queen took Aradia's frog prototyping as a personal insult.]]
21st May '14 12:32:50 PM Thenakedcat
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* This is what happens in the BadFuture of ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}''. [[spoiler: John gets himself killed by fighting his [[ThresholdGuardian Denizen]] [[SequenceBreaking far earlier than he's supposed to.]] Without him, Jade (presumably) dies since she is unable to enter the Medium and escape from the meteor that later strikes her house. Dave and Rose can't progress past a certain point without their help, and Dave is forced to travel back in time to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong.]]
** The whole [[spoiler: kids' session of Sburb]] could be considered this too, at least as far as winning it normally is concerned, because [[spoiler: they accidentally [[OneWingedAngel prototyped]] [[DimensionLord Becquerel]] and gave all of the enemies in their game [[RealityWarper ridiculous game breaking godlike powers]] that broke the game so badly that one of their bosses escaped their universe and messed the trolls' session up - sort've like [[EpicFail failing on your video game so hard that someone else in a different city's game disk scratches]].]] This is compounded by the fact that [[spoiler: [[BigBad Jack]] [[TimedMission started the Reckoning way, way early]] and the kids game basically started just as they ran out of time for some reason]]. The characters involved realise something went wrong and eventually have to [[spoiler:[[ResetButton start the game again from scratch]]]].

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* Sburb, the RealityWarper computer game from ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'', can be rendered unwinnable by a whole host of outside events.
** Any behavior that deviates from the Paradox Space-determined Alpha Timeline will create a fully-doomed offshoot. The only thing that can be salvaged is information passed to the Alpha Timeline, [[spoiler:such as Davesprite's knowledge about the trap Terezi laid for John]].
** The destined player chain must be completed for the session to be winnable.
This is what happens can go wrong in several ways: [[spoiler:Dave]] loses the original game discs and has to find replacements or risk breaking the chain. Entry must be achieved before the meteor timer runs out. [[spoiler:That happened in the BadFuture of ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}''. [[spoiler: [[BadFuture offshoot timeline]] Davesprite came from: John gets himself killed by died fighting his [[ThresholdGuardian Denizen]] [[SequenceBreaking far earlier than he's supposed to.]] too early in the game]] Without him, Jade (presumably) dies since she is unable to enter the Medium and escape from the meteor that later strikes her house. Dave and Rose can't progress past a certain point without their help, and Dave is forced to travel back in time to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong.]] A player dies before entry [[spoiler: without a backup dream self, which salvages the troll session after Aradia and Sollux's deaths]].
** The sprite prototyping process can break the game if not done with extreme care. First, pre-entry prototyping must be completed by all players for the Battlefield to reach the correct end-game form. [[spoiler:The post-Scratch players are all prevented from prototyping, resulting in a Void Game that is unwinnable without outside aid.]] Second, the item used for prototyping is vitally important as the game's villains gain powers and traits based on it. [[spoiler:The pre-Scratch players accidentally prototyped [[DimensionLord Becquerel]] and gave their enemies [[RealityWarper godlike powers]] that broke the game so badly one of their bosses escaped their session and screwed over ''the trolls''.
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** The whole [[spoiler: kids' session of Sburb]] could be considered this too, at least as far as winning it normally is concerned, because [[spoiler: they accidentally [[OneWingedAngel prototyped]] [[DimensionLord Becquerel]] and gave all of the enemies in their game [[RealityWarper ridiculous game breaking godlike powers]] ANY action that broke deviates from the game so badly Paradox Space-determined Alpha Timeline will result in fully doomed offshoot timeline. The only thing that one of their bosses escaped their universe and messed the trolls' session up - sort've like [[EpicFail failing on your video game so hard that someone else in a different city's game disk scratches]].]] This is compounded by the fact that [[spoiler: [[BigBad Jack]] [[TimedMission started the Reckoning way, way early]] and the kids game basically started just as they ran out of time for some reason]]. The characters involved realise something went wrong and eventually have to [[spoiler:[[ResetButton start the game again can be salvaged from scratch]]]].a doomed timeline is information passed to the Alpha to avert disaster.
31st Jul '13 3:19:41 PM ArenaL5
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** That's still typable, only most people won't know how. Then again, how are you expected to type [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summation#Capital-sigma_notation a multi-line, algebraic summation]?

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** That's still typable, only most people won't know how. Then again, how are you expected to type [http://en.[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summation#Capital-sigma_notation a multi-line, algebraic summation]?summation]]?
31st Jul '13 3:19:31 PM ArenaL5
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* [[http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/unledwp.jpg This CAPTCHA]], and others, apparently. Fortunately, it's only actually testing one word, the other being from a large-scale project of using the whole show as an OCR (normally, it's not this obvious). One can bypass a non-typeable word by simply writing "fff" (or, depending on your vocabulary and maturity level, the filthiest, dirtiest profanity you can imagine) in its place.

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* [[http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/unledwp.jpg This CAPTCHA]], and others, apparently. Fortunately, it's only actually testing one word, the other being from a large-scale project of using the whole show as an OCR (normally, it's not this obvious). One can bypass a non-typeable word by simply writing "fff" (or, depending on your vocabulary and maturity level, the filthiest, dirtiest profanity you can imagine) in its place. place.
** That's still typable, only most people won't know how. Then again, how are you expected to type [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summation#Capital-sigma_notation a multi-line, algebraic summation]?
27th Mar '13 8:11:34 AM Korodzik
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* Happens in more then a few places in Action52
16th Mar '13 9:27:50 AM StFan
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* In the [[ShowWithinAShow Game Within A Show]] from ''ScoobyDoo And The Cyber Chase'', the gang is [[{{Tron}} trapped in a video game]], where they must find and pick up a hidden box of Scooby Snacks on each level to advance to the next. In the dinosaur-jungle level, Scooby is picked up by the trapped baby pterosaur he just rescued, and grabs up the box of Snacks an instant before it flies away with him, preventing the box from being destroyed by molten lava. As a player of the actual game might not spot the box in time, this looks like an UnwinnableByMistake that would need fixing. Justified, as it's evidently a Beta-test version that they're caught in.

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* In the [[ShowWithinAShow Game Within A Show]] from ''ScoobyDoo And The Cyber Chase'', the gang is [[{{Tron}} [[Film/{{Tron}} trapped in a video game]], where they must find and pick up a hidden box of Scooby Snacks on each level to advance to the next. In the dinosaur-jungle level, Scooby is picked up by the trapped baby pterosaur he just rescued, and grabs up the box of Snacks an instant before it flies away with him, preventing the box from being destroyed by molten lava. As a player of the actual game might not spot the box in time, this looks like an UnwinnableByMistake that would need fixing. Justified, as it's evidently a Beta-test version that they're caught in.
14th Mar '13 8:47:21 PM rimpala
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* Happens in more then a few places in Action52
20th Jan '13 4:11:32 PM Mcdoog
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* [[http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/unledwp.jpg This CAPTCHA]], and others, apparently. Fortunately, it's only actually testing one word, the other being from a large-scale project of using the whole show as an OCR (normally, it's not this obvious). One can bypass a non-typeable word by simply writing "fff" (or, depending on your vocabulary and maturity level, the filthiest, dirtiest profanity you can imagine) in its place.
** To be strictly correct, that word IS type-able. Both of those characters exist in both Japanese and Chinese. (It's not a word in Japanese, AFAIK, although if it were it would likely be read "shahofu"; my Chinese is not extensive enough to tell you for sure about there.) It just requires some kind of input editor that is not set forth as a specific requirement for doing CAPTCHAs.

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* [[http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/unledwp.jpg This CAPTCHA]], and others, apparently. Fortunately, it's only actually testing one word, the other being from a large-scale project of using the whole show as an OCR (normally, it's not this obvious). One can bypass a non-typeable word by simply writing "fff" (or, depending on your vocabulary and maturity level, the filthiest, dirtiest profanity you can imagine) in its place.
** To be strictly correct, that word IS type-able. Both of those characters exist in both Japanese and Chinese. (It's not a word in Japanese, AFAIK, although if it were it would likely be read "shahofu"; my Chinese is not extensive enough to tell you for sure about there.) It just requires some kind of input editor that is not set forth as a specific requirement for doing CAPTCHAs.
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4th Jan '13 2:39:02 PM ArabellaFlynn
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** To be strictly correct, that word IS type-able. Both of those characters exist in both Japanese and Chinese. (It's not a word in Japanese, AFAIK, although if it were it would likely be read "shahofu"; my Chinese is not extensive enough to tell you for sure about there.) It just requires some kind of input editor that is not set forth as a specific requirement for doing CAPTCHAs.
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