History Trivia / Yes

20th May '18 6:41:16 PM Blatch0
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* AuthorExistanceFailure: Not anyone from the band, but Steve Howe's son Virgil, who made ''Yes Remixes'' and also played with him and bands like Little Barrie, died in September 2017 of an undisclosed cause.

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* AuthorExistanceFailure: AuthorExistenceFailure: Not anyone from the band, but Steve Howe's son Virgil, who made ''Yes Remixes'' and also played with him and bands like Little Barrie, died in September 2017 of an undisclosed cause.



** Oliver Wakeman intended to contribute heavily to the writing of ''Fly from Here'' before he was booted out for Geoff Downes, who contributed to the title track of that album. By the time it was finished, "Into the Storm" was the only piece Oliver worked on that remained, although he actually played on parts of the title suite and "Hour of Need" as well. Interestingly, although Benoit David was largely mixed out of the ''Return Trip'' remix, Oliver's contributions were kept intact.

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** Oliver Wakeman intended to contribute heavily to the writing of ''Fly from Here'' before he was booted out for Geoff Downes, who contributed to the title track of that album. By the time it was finished, "Into the Storm" was the only piece Oliver worked on contributed to that remained, although he actually played on parts of the title suite and "Hour of Need" as well. Interestingly, although Benoit David was largely mixed out of the ''Return Trip'' remix, Oliver's contributions were kept intact.



** [[http://forgotten-yesterdays.com/dates.asp?ftype=1&qbandid=1&qdec=1970&qdateid=496 At one point]] (see the bottom comment), although nobody knows how serious the offer was, Yes asked [[Music/KingCrimson Robert Fripp]] to perform on one of their albums. Whether or not this was an offer to be their permanent guitarist after Peter Banks left the band is unknown, but Fripp said no. This may have directly led to Jon Anderson providing the vocals to "Prince Rupert Awakes" from the ''Lizard'' suite.

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** [[http://forgotten-yesterdays.com/dates.asp?ftype=1&qbandid=1&qdec=1970&qdateid=496 At one point]] (see the bottom comment), although nobody knows how serious the offer was, Yes asked [[Music/KingCrimson Robert Fripp]] to perform on one of their albums. Whether or not this was an offer to be their permanent guitarist after Peter Banks left the band is unknown, but Fripp said no. This may have directly led to spurred Jon Anderson providing the vocals to "Prince Rupert Awakes" from the ''Lizard'' suite.
20th May '18 6:33:18 PM Blatch0
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* AuthorExistanceFailure: Not anyone from the band, but Steve Howe's son Virgil, who made ''Yes Remixes'' and also played with him and bands like Little Barrie, died in September 2017 of an undisclosed cause.



** Also most of the participants of ''Union'', due to the overproduction, ExecutiveMeddling and replacement of band contributions with that of session musicians and computer editing in post-production. Rick Wakeman famously calls it "Onion" [[IncrediblyLamePun as it brings tears to his eyes]] and he said that when he first heard it, he chucked the CD out of his limo and only has heard one other time since. He also famously quipped, "The only person that didn't play on this album was [[CrowningMomentOfFunny my dog]]". Bill Bruford simply said it was "just awful". The tour supporting ''Union'' in 1991 only included up three of its songs in the setlist, and only one, the album's first single "Lift Me Up" appears on the live album, which wasn't released until ''ten years later''. It is more a document for fans of the "mega-Yes" lineup of that time than for the ''Union'' album itself.

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** Also most of the participants of ''Union'', due to the overproduction, ExecutiveMeddling and replacement of band contributions with that of session musicians and computer editing in post-production. Rick Wakeman famously calls it "Onion" [[IncrediblyLamePun as it brings tears to his eyes]] and he said that when he first heard it, he chucked the CD out of his limo and only has heard one other time since. He also famously quipped, "The only person that didn't play on this album was [[CrowningMomentOfFunny my dog]]". Bill Bruford simply said it was "just awful". The tour supporting ''Union'' in 1991 only included up three of its songs in the setlist, and only one, the album's first single "Lift Me Up" "Saving My Heart", appears on the live album, it, which wasn't released until ''ten years later''. It is more a document for fans of the "mega-Yes" lineup of that time than for the ''Union'' album itself.



* ExecutiveMeddling: Rick Wakeman wasn't allowed to compose anything on ''Fragile'' for legal reasons, which explains why his solo piece on that album is arranged classical work by Brahms. His contributions on followup ''Close to the Edge'' were credited as [[LoopholeAbuse "themes"]] to get around the contractual lockout.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: Rick Wakeman wasn't allowed to compose anything on ''Fragile'' for legal reasons, reasons [[note]]except for, allegedly, the piano bridge on "South Side of the Sky", which went uncredited anyway[[/note]], which explains why his solo piece on that album is arranged classical work by Brahms. His contributions on followup ''Close to the Edge'' were credited as [[LoopholeAbuse "themes"]] to get around the contractual lockout.



** Bill Bruford's original stint in Yes can be seen as this for those familiar with work with Music/KingCrimson, on top of solo work.
** Trevor Rabin has had a decent career in scoring, doing the soundtracks for films like {{Film/Armageddon}} and Film/NationalTreasure.



** The original version of ''Fly From Here'' (not the ''Return Trip'' remix) is actually harder to find on CD than ''Talk''. It's also not available on digital outlets, and neither are ''Open Your Eyes'' nor ''Heaven & Earth''.



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** The album that became ''Union'' started off as a second Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe album, tentatively titled ''Dialogue''. However, "Take the Water to the Mountain" is the only piece from ''Dialogue'' that ended up making it intact onto ''Union'', with the rest of the tracks remaining unreleased until Jon Anderson finally included some of them in a rarities collection in 2006.

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** The album that became ''Union'' started off as a second Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe album, tentatively titled ''Dialogue''.''Dialogue'', or ''We Make Believe''. However, "Take the Water to the Mountain" is the only piece from ''Dialogue'' that ended up making it intact onto ''Union'', with the rest of the tracks remaining unreleased until Jon Anderson finally included some of them in a rarities collection in 2006.



** Oliver Wakeman intended to contribute heavily to the writing of ''Fly from Here'' before he was booted out for Geoff Downes, who contributed to the title track of that album. By the time it was finished, "Into the Storm" was the only piece Oliver worked on that remained.

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** Oliver Wakeman intended to contribute heavily to the writing of ''Fly from Here'' before he was booted out for Geoff Downes, who contributed to the title track of that album. By the time it was finished, "Into the Storm" was the only piece Oliver worked on that remained.remained, although he actually played on parts of the title suite and "Hour of Need" as well. Interestingly, although Benoit David was largely mixed out of the ''Return Trip'' remix, Oliver's contributions were kept intact.



** In 2018, the band released ''Fly From Here: Return Trip'', an alternate version of the 2011 album which among other edits and remixing, features Trevor Horn on lead vocals instead of Benoît David. The album thus could be seen as an exercise in What Could Have Been for the ''Drama'' lineup had they not disbanded after its tour.

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** In 2018, the band released ''Fly From Here: Here - Return Trip'', an alternate version of the 2011 album which among other edits and remixing, features Trevor Horn on lead vocals instead of Benoît David. The album thus could be seen as an exercise in What Could Have Been for the ''Drama'' lineup had they not disbanded after its tour.tour.
** [[http://forgotten-yesterdays.com/dates.asp?ftype=1&qbandid=1&qdec=1970&qdateid=496 At one point]] (see the bottom comment), although nobody knows how serious the offer was, Yes asked [[Music/KingCrimson Robert Fripp]] to perform on one of their albums. Whether or not this was an offer to be their permanent guitarist after Peter Banks left the band is unknown, but Fripp said no. This may have directly led to Jon Anderson providing the vocals to "Prince Rupert Awakes" from the ''Lizard'' suite.
1st Apr '18 11:12:15 AM Yoshiman400
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** In 2018, the band released ''Fly From Here: Return Trip'', an alternate version of the 2011 album which among other edits and remixing, features Trevor Horn on lead vocals instead of Benoît David. The album thus could be seen as an exercise in What Could Have Been for the ''Drama'' lineup had they not disbanded after its tour.
3rd Mar '18 7:55:06 PM bt8257
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** Jimmy Page entered the picture yet again when he wanted to collaborate with Bill Bruford in a project he had with [[Music/{{Free}} Paul]] [[Music/BadCompany Rodgers]] called "The Firm". Bruford had to decline due to contractual and artistic conflicts, but this ultimately left him free to do ABWH a few years later. [[note]]Page ultimately recruited Music/ManfredMann drummer Chris Slade for The Firm.[[/note]]

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** Jimmy Page entered the picture yet again when he wanted to collaborate with Bill Bruford in a project he had with [[Music/{{Free}} [[Music/FreeBand Paul]] [[Music/BadCompany Rodgers]] called "The Firm". Bruford had to decline due to contractual and artistic conflicts, but this ultimately left him free to do ABWH a few years later. [[note]]Page ultimately recruited Music/ManfredMann drummer Chris Slade for The Firm.[[/note]]
22nd Jan '18 4:55:35 PM MarkLungo
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** Rick Wakeman contributed keyboards to several Music/DavidBowie albums: ''Music/SpaceOddity'', ''Music/HunkyDory'' and ''Music/TheRiseAndFallOfZiggyStardustAndTheSpidersFromMars''.

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** Rick Wakeman contributed keyboards to several Music/DavidBowie albums: ''Music/SpaceOddity'', ''Music/HunkyDory'' and ''Music/TheRiseAndFallOfZiggyStardustAndTheSpidersFromMars''. Bowie offered him a permanent spot in his backup band, but Wakeman chose to join Yes instead.



* Creator/{{Hipgnosis}}: Did the covers of ''Going for the One'' and ''Tormato''.



** On Chris Squire's death, Jon Anderson said this about him: "Chris had such a great sense of humor... he always said he was [[Franchise/StarWars Darth Vader to my Obi-Wan]]. I always thought of him as Christopher Robin to my Winnie-the-Pooh."

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** On Chris Squire's death, Jon Anderson said this about him: "Chris had such a great sense of humor... he always said he was [[Franchise/StarWars Darth Vader to my Obi-Wan]]. I always thought of him as Christopher Robin to my Winnie-the-Pooh.Franchise/WinnieThePooh."



** Geoff Downes describes himself as a "computer nerd" in his Twitter bio. His first tour with Yes includes a Fairlight CMI computer keyboard in his rig.

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** Geoff Downes describes himself as a "computer nerd" in his Twitter Website/{{Twitter}} bio. His first tour with Yes includes a Fairlight CMI computer keyboard in his rig.



** ''Big Generator'' took over two years to make due to Trevor Horn leaving production early because he and Tony Kaye weren't getting along, Trevor Rabin becoming IAmTheBand and disagreeing with Jon Anderson. Anderson was looking to make a Yes album with the classic 70s style, while Rabin wanted to evolve ''90125'''s sound and score another Top 40 hit. Also, they recorded the album in 3 different studios, all in different countries. They started out in Los Angeles, but they decided to go to Italy to record it in an Italian palace. They recorded "Shoot High, Aim Low" there, then they went to the U.K. to record "Rhythm of Love", then ended up ''back where they started in Los Angeles'' to record the rest of the album. When Chris Squire was interviewed about the album, he said that he and Alan White recorded their parts on the album over and over during the ''whole two year period''.

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** ''Big Generator'' took over two years to make due to Trevor Horn leaving production early because he and Tony Kaye weren't getting along, Trevor Rabin becoming IAmTheBand and disagreeing with Jon Anderson. Anderson was looking to make a Yes album with the classic 70s style, while Rabin wanted to evolve ''90125'''s sound and score another Top 40 hit. Also, they recorded the album in 3 different studios, all in different countries. They started out in Los Angeles, UsefulNotes/LosAngeles, but they decided to go to Italy UsefulNotes/{{Italy}} to record it in an Italian palace. They recorded "Shoot High, Aim Low" there, then they went to the U.K. UsefulNotes/UnitedKingdom to record "Rhythm of Love", then ended up ''back where they started in Los Angeles'' to record the rest of the album. When Chris Squire was interviewed about the album, he said that he and Alan White recorded their parts on the album over and over during the ''whole two year period''.



%%** ''Union'' counts as well, thanks to ExecutiveMeddling.



** After the low sales of ''Yes'' and ''Time and a Word'', Atlantic Records was seriously considering dropping the band if their third album was also a commercial disappointment. Yes didn't know it at the time, but ''The Yes Album'' was their make-or-break moment...and they passed with flying colors.
** Music/PhilCollins was scheduled to audition to be their drummer, but earlier that same day he auditioned for [[Music/{{Genesis}} another band]] and went with them instead. Collins later toured ''A Trick Of The Tail'' with Music/BillBruford as the second drummer.

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** After the low sales of ''Yes'' and ''Time and a Word'', Atlantic Records Creator/AtlanticRecords was seriously considering dropping the band if their third album was also a commercial disappointment. Yes didn't know it at the time, but ''The Yes Album'' was their make-or-break moment...and they passed with flying colors.
** Music/PhilCollins was scheduled to audition to be their drummer, but earlier that same day he auditioned for [[Music/{{Genesis}} another band]] Music/{{Genesis}} and went with them instead. Collins later toured ''A Trick Of The Tail'' with Music/BillBruford as the second drummer.



** After the breakup of Yes in 1981, Chris Squire and Alan White tried to form a {{supergroup}} called XYZ with former Music/LedZeppelin members Jimmy Page and Robert Plant. Plant quickly lost interest in the project and the band folded. But then Squire and White started working with a [[Music/TrevorRabin new guitarist from South Africa]]...
** Jimmy Page entered the picture yet again when he wanted to collaborate with Bill Bruford in a project he had with Paul Rodgers called "The Firm". Bruford had to decline due to contractual and artistic conflicts, but this ultimately left him free to do ABWH a few years later. [[note]]Page ultimately recruited Manfred Mann drummer Chris Slade for The Firm.[[/note]]

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** After the breakup of Yes in 1981, Chris Squire and Alan White tried to form a {{supergroup}} called XYZ with former Music/LedZeppelin members Jimmy Page and Robert Plant. Plant quickly lost interest in the project and the band folded. But then Squire and White started working with a [[Music/TrevorRabin new guitarist from South Africa]]...
Music/TrevorRabin...
** Jimmy Page entered the picture yet again when he wanted to collaborate with Bill Bruford in a project he had with Paul Rodgers [[Music/{{Free}} Paul]] [[Music/BadCompany Rodgers]] called "The Firm". Bruford had to decline due to contractual and artistic conflicts, but this ultimately left him free to do ABWH a few years later. [[note]]Page ultimately recruited Manfred Mann Music/ManfredMann drummer Chris Slade for The Firm.[[/note]]



** [[Music/{{Supertramp}} Roger Hodgson]] was also considered as Yes frontman when Anderson went off to form Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe in the wake of ''Big Generator''. The band ultimately decided to merge back with ABWH, but not before he wrote some songs with the band, which is why Hodgson has a writing credit on "Walls".

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** [[Music/{{Supertramp}} Music/{{Supertramp}}'s Roger Hodgson]] Hodgson was also considered as Yes frontman when Anderson went off to form Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe in the wake of ''Big Generator''. The band ultimately decided to merge back with ABWH, but not before he wrote some songs with the band, which is why Hodgson has a writing credit on "Walls".
16th Jan '18 7:53:55 PM costanton11
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* Creator/{{Hipgnosis}}: Did the covers of ''Going for the One'' and ''Tormato''.
29th Dec '17 9:58:02 PM DavidDelony
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* HeAlsoDid: Rick Wakeman contributed keyboards to several Music/DavidBowie albums: ''Music/SpaceOddity'', ''Music/HunkyDory'' and ''Music/TheRiseAndFallOfZiggyStardustAndTheSpidersFromMars''.

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Rick Wakeman contributed keyboards to several Music/DavidBowie albums: ''Music/SpaceOddity'', ''Music/HunkyDory'' and ''Music/TheRiseAndFallOfZiggyStardustAndTheSpidersFromMars''.''Music/TheRiseAndFallOfZiggyStardustAndTheSpidersFromMars''.
** Wakeman and Steve Howe also played on Music/LouReed's first solo album.
4th Nov '17 6:11:11 PM DavidDelony
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* RoleEndingMisdemeanor: Igor Khoroshev left the band after being accused of sexual assault by two female security guards on tour.
16th Sep '17 11:34:16 PM DavidDelony
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* HeAlsoDid: Rick Wakeman contributed keyboards to several Music/DavidBowie albums: ''Music/SpaceOddity'', ''Music/HunkyDory'' and ''Music/TheRiseAndFallOfZiggyStardustAndTheSpidersFromMars''.
3rd May '17 10:41:19 PM 123456789
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** This is the reason ''90125'' is a Yes album instead of a Cinema album. Cinema was originally Music/TrevorRabin, Chris Squire, and Alan White, with Tony Kaye added mainly for live shows (Rabin and Trevor Horn played most of the actual keyboard parts on the album). However, after Jon Anderson joined the fold, the record company insisted that the band be called Yes (but then again, consider the fact Squire, Kaye, and Anderson were founding members and Alan White had been the only drummer since Music/BillBruford left). Rabin wasn't happy about this, not wanting to be perceived as a replacement for Steve Howe.

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** This is the reason ''90125'' is a Yes album instead of a Cinema album. Cinema was originally Music/TrevorRabin, Chris Squire, and Alan White, with Tony Kaye added mainly for live shows (Rabin and Trevor Horn played most of the actual keyboard parts on the album). However, after Jon Anderson joined the fold, the record company Atco Records insisted that the band be called Yes (but then again, consider the fact Squire, Kaye, and Anderson were founding members and Alan White had been the only drummer since Music/BillBruford left). Rabin wasn't happy about this, not wanting to be perceived as a replacement for Steve Howe.
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