History Trivia / TheWho

14th Jul '17 9:57:20 AM DavidDelony
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: "Magic Bus" manages to still sound reasonably timeless until it betrays the fact that it was written before British currency was decimalised with "Thruppence and sixpence every day just to drive to my baby".

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: "Magic Bus" manages to still sound reasonably timeless until it betrays the fact that it was written [[UsefulNotes/OldBritishMoney before British currency was decimalised decimalised]] with "Thruppence and sixpence every day just to drive to my baby".
8th Jul '17 1:45:56 PM nombretomado
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A second abandoned ConceptAlbum, ''Rock Is Dead--Long Live Rock'' chronicling the Who's history, was worked on in 1972. According to TheOtherWiki, tracks salvaged from the piece included the singles-only tracks, "Join Together", "Relay" and "[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Long Live Rock]]", "Put the Money Down" from ''Odds And Sods'', and early versions of the ''Music/{{Quadrophenia}}'' tracks, "Is It In My Head", "The Punk and the Godfather" and "Love Reign O'er Me", among other tracks.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A second abandoned ConceptAlbum, ''Rock Is Dead--Long Live Rock'' chronicling the Who's history, was worked on in 1972. According to TheOtherWiki, Wiki/TheOtherWiki, tracks salvaged from the piece included the singles-only tracks, "Join Together", "Relay" and "[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Long Live Rock]]", "Put the Money Down" from ''Odds And Sods'', and early versions of the ''Music/{{Quadrophenia}}'' tracks, "Is It In My Head", "The Punk and the Godfather" and "Love Reign O'er Me", among other tracks.
5th Jul '17 2:57:43 PM bt8257
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** Both of the {{Precision F Strike}}s in "Who Are You" were supposedly ad-libbed by Daltrey but left in anyway.

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** Both of the {{Precision F Strike}}s Each PrecisionFStrike in "Who Are You" were supposedly ad-libbed by Daltrey but left in anyway.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A second abandoned ConceptAlbum project, ''Rock Is Dead--Long Live Rock'' chronicling the history of the Who, was worked on in 1972. According the TheOtherWiki, tracks salvaged from the piece included the singles-only tracks, "Join Together", "Relay" and ''[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Long Live Rock]]", "Put The Money Down" from ''Odds And Sods'', and early versions of the ''Music/{{Quadrophenia}}'' tracks, "Is It In My Head", "The Punk And The Godfather" and "Love Reign O'er Me", among other tracks.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A second abandoned ConceptAlbum project, ConceptAlbum, ''Rock Is Dead--Long Live Rock'' chronicling the history of the Who, Who's history, was worked on in 1972. According the to TheOtherWiki, tracks salvaged from the piece included the singles-only tracks, "Join Together", "Relay" and ''[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin "[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Long Live Rock]]", "Put The the Money Down" from ''Odds And Sods'', and early versions of the ''Music/{{Quadrophenia}}'' tracks, "Is It In My Head", "The Punk And The and the Godfather" and "Love Reign O'er Me", among other tracks.tracks.
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16th Jun '17 10:57:26 AM nombretomado
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** A band whose image was largely built around [[RockersSmashGuitars their at-the-time-shocking and revolutionary act of wrecking their equipment onstage]] and for wrecking hotel rooms and causing havoc on tour[[note]]The Holiday Inn chain banned them for life from their hotels in the 1960's[[/note]] had the misfortune of being in constant debt for much of that decade, until ''{{Tommy}}'' became a success in 1969. This, and whatever "legal matters" the band went through over this behavior became a constant source of pressure for the band, and the group was very close to breaking up many times. It can easily be said, then, that any attempts by the band of, erm, "sell(ing) out", affixing a quirky pop song like "Pinball Wizard" onto ''Tommy'' to help sales, or playing Woodstock [[MoneyDearBoy for the money]] would be [[JustifiedTrope very well justified and understandable]]. The inside fold out of ''Live At Leeds'' shows bills sent to the band for their antics and instrument destruction.

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** A band whose image was largely built around [[RockersSmashGuitars their at-the-time-shocking and revolutionary act of wrecking their equipment onstage]] and for wrecking hotel rooms and causing havoc on tour[[note]]The Holiday Inn chain banned them for life from their hotels in the 1960's[[/note]] had the misfortune of being in constant debt for much of that decade, until ''{{Tommy}}'' ''Music/{{Tommy}}'' became a success in 1969. This, and whatever "legal matters" the band went through over this behavior became a constant source of pressure for the band, and the group was very close to breaking up many times. It can easily be said, then, that any attempts by the band of, erm, "sell(ing) out", affixing a quirky pop song like "Pinball Wizard" onto ''Tommy'' to help sales, or playing Woodstock [[MoneyDearBoy for the money]] would be [[JustifiedTrope very well justified and understandable]]. The inside fold out of ''Live At Leeds'' shows bills sent to the band for their antics and instrument destruction.
29th May '17 11:00:06 PM NWolfman
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** Several of the lines in "Behind Blue Eyes" about violent outbursts reflect on Roger Daltrey's own history of violence. In the early days of the band, Daltrey would often solve disputes by letting the other person talk to his fist. In one instance, he actually K.O.'d Pete and was immediately fired, only to be let back in (under the proviso that he clean up his act) when "My Generation" became a hit.

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** Several of the lines in "Behind Blue Eyes" about violent outbursts reflect on Roger Daltrey's own history of violence. In the early days of the band, Daltrey would often solve disputes by letting the other person talk {{talk to his fist.the fist}}. In one instance, he actually K.O.'d Pete and was immediately fired, only to be let back in (under the proviso that he clean up his act) when "My Generation" became a hit.


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* RoleEndingMisdemeanor: As mentioned above, this very nearly happened to Roger Daltrey. He'd regularly fist-fight with other members of the band and was fired after knocking Townshend unconscious during one rehearsal. He was rehired after "My Generation" became a hit, on the condition that he'd control his temper.
29th May '17 10:55:23 PM NWolfman
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* CashCowFranchise: They broke up in 1982, but seemingly never stopped performing comeback shows once a 1989 tour proved a huge hit.



** In the early 2000s, Pete began personally researching sexual abuse in children under the belief that he may had been molested as a child and didn't remember. Unfortunately, his research led him to a child pornography site, which landed him on a sex offender's list for eight years.
* DevelopmentHell: Since at least the early 1990s, Roger Daltrey has been attempting to put a Keith Moon biopic on the big screen. Creator/RobertDowneyJr. was once considered for the lead role before, in Daltrey's words, he read the script and did everything in it. Creator/MikeMyers was teased all throughout the 2000s to be playing the man himself, but after its intended release day in 2007 passed, nothing has come of it. Currently, IMDB lists the film as "Untitled Keith Moon Project", with Myers still attached to the title role.

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** In His most recent was in the early 2000s, Pete when he began personally researching sexual abuse in children under the belief that he may had been molested as a child and didn't remember. Unfortunately, his research led him to a child pornography site, which landed him on a sex offender's list for eight years.
* DevelopmentHell: DevelopmentHell
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Since at least the early 1990s, Roger Daltrey has been attempting to put a Keith Moon biopic on the big screen. Creator/RobertDowneyJr. was once considered for the lead role before, in Daltrey's words, he read "read the script and did everything in it. it." Creator/MikeMyers was teased all throughout the 2000s to be playing the man himself, but after its intended release day in 2007 passed, nothing has come of it. Currently, IMDB lists the film as "Untitled Keith Moon Project", with Myers still attached to the title role.role.
** ''Endless Wire'' languished here for most of the early 2000s, simply because 20 years had already passed since the release of ''It's Hard'', and each passing year meant that the expectations of new Who material would be nigh-insurmountable, not helped by John Entwisle's sudden death in 2002. It was finally released in 2006, 24 years after ''It's Hard.''
24th May '17 10:11:27 AM CumbersomeTercel
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24th May '17 10:09:50 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* CashCowFranchise: They broke up in 1982, but seemingly never stopped performing comeback shows once a 1989 tour proved a huge hit.
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** The band hated their iconic performance at Woodstock. Roger Daltrey declared it as "the worst gig [they] ever played" and Pete Townshend said, "I thought the whole of America had gone mad."
* CreatorBreakdown: ''Lifehouse'', ''[[LampshadeHanging The Who By Numbers]]''.
** Pete Townshend [[WordOfGod claimed]] in his 2013 memoir, ''Who I Am'', that ''The Who By Numbers'' turned out the way it did almost [[EnforcedTrope by accident]], as a result of Roger Daltrey handpicking the tracks which were released on the album:
--> ''[Roger] called the next day, very positive about what he heard. I had come up with a broad sweep of material, some upbeat, some R&B influenced, some reggae, some very light in tone, and some introspective and angry. I was surprised by the songs he liked best - the angry, cynical, depressive ones. The music was only partly complete, though; what I lacked on this collection, once again, was a defining context, a theme or concept. The songs Roger selected may have been the ones he liked best, but as a group they were later described as a kind of "suicide note" from me, and better suited to a solo album. I wasn't feeling suicidal at all, but I was terribly tired. ''

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** The band hated their iconic performance at Woodstock.UsfulNotes/{{Woodstock}}. Roger Daltrey declared it as "the worst gig [they] ever played" and Pete Townshend said, "I thought the whole of America had gone mad."
* CreatorBreakdown: ''Lifehouse'', ''[[LampshadeHanging The Who By Numbers]]''.
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Pete Townsend had several:
** The first and most notable breakdown occurred during the production of his ambitious ''Lifehouse'' project, which was to be a massive concept album/film/audience participation project, made with the intention of creating the greatest event in music history. The story was set in a dystopian future in which the cities of Earth are so polluted that everyone has to stay inside, and that everyone is hooked up to a massive network which provides entertainment through what is essentially virtual reality. [[Film/TheMatrix (Sound familiar?)]] It was going to end with a Universal Chord of pure music being struck and everyone ascending to a higher plane of existence. It broke down because no one else seemed to understand the concept - especially not the other members of the band. The idea had to be scrapped, and a more "conventional" non-concept album was released based on some of the songs. The result of this "failure" was ''Music/WhosNext'', and is considered to be one of (if not THE) best album the Who ever released.
** The second occurred after the release of ''Music/{{Quadrophenia}}'', which was not as popular or as well-received at the time as
Townshend [[WordOfGod claimed]] had hoped it would be. This, in conjunction with his 2013 memoir, ''Who I Am'', that drinking problem, caused him to take a brief break from songwriting before returning two years later with the stripped-down and alarmingly cynical ''The Who By Numbers'' turned out Numbers''.
** The third occurred after
the way it did almost [[EnforcedTrope by accident]], as a result death of Roger Daltrey handpicking Keith Moon and the tracks which were released Who's breakup in 1982 after years running on autopilot. Townshend wrote the album:
--> ''[Roger] called the next day, very positive about what he heard. I had come up with a broad sweep of material, some upbeat, some R&B influenced, some reggae, some very light in tone, and some introspective and angry. I was surprised by the songs he liked best - the angry, cynical, depressive ones. The music was only partly complete, though; what I lacked on this collection, once again, was a defining context, a theme or concept. The songs Roger selected may have been the ones he liked best, but as a group they were later described as a kind of "suicide note" from me, and better suited to a
contemplative, [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible abstract]], synth-heavy solo album. I wasn't feeling suicidal at all, but I was terribly tired. ''album "All The Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes".



* SerendipityWritesThePlot: Pete Townshend developed his signature guitar-smashing quite by accident one night when he was frustrated with the low ceiling at the venue they were playing at.



* TroubledProduction[=/=]WhatCouldHaveBeen: ''Lifehouse'', the project that started out as an idea for another RockOpera but failed and became ''Music/WhosNext'' partially due to Townshend's inability to explain the idea and make anyone understand it.
** A second abandoned ConceptAlbum project, ''Rock Is Dead--Long Live Rock'' chronicling the history of the Who, was worked on in 1972. According the TheOtherWiki, tracks salvaged from the piece included the singles-only tracks, "Join Together", "Relay" and ''[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Long Live Rock]]", "Put The Money Down" from ''Odds And Sods'', and early versions of the ''Music/{{Quadrophenia}}'' tracks, "Is It In My Head", "The Punk And The Godfather" and "Love Reign O'er Me", among other tracks.

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* TroubledProduction[=/=]WhatCouldHaveBeen: ''Lifehouse'', the project that started out as an idea for TroubledProduction:
** Pete Townshend, after ''Music/{{Tommy}}'''s immense success, intended to create
another RockOpera but failed rock opera, this time with a sci-fi bent, called ''Lifehouse''. Its plot would involve a dystopian heavily polluted virtual reality-based future (virtual reality before the term was even coined), where a Scottish farmer family go to the Lifehouse concert in London, the [[BrownNote perfect note]] rings out and became ''Music/WhosNext'' partially due the concertgoers disappear after having achieved musical Nirvana (no, [[Music/{{Nirvana}} not that kind]]). The Who would take over the Young Vic theatre, develop new material with influence from the audience and a story would evolve. It would be a movie. Pete would modify his new synths to Townshend's pick up information from audience members to create musical portraits (something basically impossible then and still pretty complicated now). Unsurprisingly, this was a recipe for disaster. Pete's inability to explain figure out just what the idea fuck he wanted caused him to have a nervous breakdown, and make anyone understand it.
** A second abandoned ConceptAlbum project, ''Rock Is Dead--Long Live Rock'' chronicling
after spending four months of live concerts at the history of Young Vic and unproductive studio sessions, he finally junked the Who, whole RockOpera concept. The band gathered up their best songs, and entered Olympic Studios with producer Glyn Johns. The result was worked on in 1972. According ''Music/WhosNext'', widely considered the TheOtherWiki, tracks salvaged from the piece included the singles-only tracks, "Join Together", "Relay" and ''[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Long Live Rock]]", "Put The Money Down" from ''Odds And Sods'', and early versions of the ''Music/{{Quadrophenia}}'' tracks, "Is It In My Head", "The Punk And The Godfather" and "Love Reign O'er Me", among other tracks.band's best album.



* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: "Magic Bus" manages to still sound reasonably timeless until it betrays the fact that it was written before British currency was decimalised with "Thruppence and sixpence every day just to drive to my baby".

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: "Magic Bus" manages to still sound reasonably timeless until it betrays the fact that it was written before British currency was decimalised with "Thruppence and sixpence every day just to drive to my baby".baby".
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A second abandoned ConceptAlbum project, ''Rock Is Dead--Long Live Rock'' chronicling the history of the Who, was worked on in 1972. According the TheOtherWiki, tracks salvaged from the piece included the singles-only tracks, "Join Together", "Relay" and ''[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Long Live Rock]]", "Put The Money Down" from ''Odds And Sods'', and early versions of the ''Music/{{Quadrophenia}}'' tracks, "Is It In My Head", "The Punk And The Godfather" and "Love Reign O'er Me", among other tracks.
21st May '17 5:21:15 AM CumbersomeTercel
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** The band hated their iconic performance at Woodstock. Roger Daltrey declared it as "the worst gig [they] ever played" and Pete Townshend said, "I thought the whole of America had gone mad."
21st May '17 5:09:28 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* CreatorBacklash: Pete Townshend's ''Scoop'' liner notes include a rather bitter comment of "It's the silly songs they like, daft punters." after mentioning how their concerts always included shouted requests for "Magic Bus" and "Boris the Spider".

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Pete Townshend's ''Scoop'' liner notes include a rather bitter comment of "It's the silly songs they like, daft punters." after mentioning how their concerts always included shouted requests for "Magic Bus" and "Boris the Spider".



* DevelopmentHell: A biopic of Keith Moon, with MikeMyers in the lead, was teased in the early 2000s but has since dropped off the radar (possibly owing to Myers' [[TheCatInTheHat increasingly bad]] [[TheLoveGuru role choices]]).

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* DevelopmentHell: A Since at least the early 1990s, Roger Daltrey has been attempting to put a Keith Moon biopic of Keith Moon, with MikeMyers in on the lead, big screen. Creator/RobertDowneyJr. was once considered for the lead role before, in Daltrey's words, he read the script and did everything in it. Creator/MikeMyers was teased in all throughout the early 2000s to be playing the man himself, but after its intended release day in 2007 passed, nothing has since dropped off come of it. Currently, IMDB lists the radar (possibly owing film as "Untitled Keith Moon Project", with Myers still attached to Myers' [[TheCatInTheHat increasingly bad]] [[TheLoveGuru role choices]]).the title role.



* MagnumOpusDissonance:
** When the band were in the process of recording ''Music/{{Tommy}}'', Pete Townshend slapped together a PowerPop ballad with no real relation to the story in order to get the attention of New York Times music critic Nik Cohn, who was known to be a fan of certain arcade novelties. That song was "Pinball Wizard", which easily became the most recognizable song off the album.
** And while ''Tommy'' came to be considered their finest work to date, Townshend's aspirations were pegged on its ambitious followup, ''Lifehouse'' - which ultimately fell apart due to miscommunication and the Who parting ways with their manager, and stayed dead until Townshend revived it as a solo album and radio play nearly 30 years later, by which time his work was no longer receiving notice on the pop charts. (On the other hand, the album which resulted of the failed ''Lifehouse'' sessions, ''Music/WhosNext'', competes with ''Tommy'' as the band's most acclaimed)



* ThePeteBest: The drummer before Keith Moon came along named Doug Sandom, who himself had replaced Harry Wilson. Before that they had Colin Dawson, the lead singer whose departure led rhythm guitarist Roger Daltrey to take up the vocals himself.



** ''The Who By Numbers'' took an unusually long time to complete. This was not because of technical difficulties, but because of the band members's lack of interest and because of Pete's [[CreatorBreakdown writer's block and feeling of disenchantment from his music]]

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** ''The Who By Numbers'' took an unusually long time to complete. This was not because of technical difficulties, but because of the band members's lack of interest and because of Pete's [[CreatorBreakdown writer's block and feeling of disenchantment from his music]]music]].
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: "Magic Bus" manages to still sound reasonably timeless until it betrays the fact that it was written before British currency was decimalised with "Thruppence and sixpence every day just to drive to my baby".
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