History Trivia / TheWheelOfTime

12th Jun '17 10:43:23 AM fruitstripegum
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Originally, there was going to be a fourth Two Rivers boy in addition to Rand, Mat, and Perrin. The character ended up being largely peripheral, and Jordan's wife eventually convinced him to drop him.
*** This is actually [[MythologyGag referenced in-story]] when the young man in question, Dannil, muses to Tam early on in the Battle of Merrilor what would have happened if he'd gone with the three main heroes when Moiraine took them out of the Two Rivers.
** Robert Jordan initially planned to write at least two more prequels (one about Tam, and a second about Moiraine and Lan), as well as a sequel trilogy following Mat and Perrin several years down the line (collectively, fans tend to refer to these as "the outriggers"). Unfortunately, AuthorExistenceFailure hit before Jordan produced much material on any of them, and it looks like they'll probably never get written at this point.
** There was originally going to be a subplot in ''Memory of Light'' revolving around the Sharan leader Bao the Wyld [[spoiler: better known as Demandred]]. Unfortunately, it threw off the pacing and forced Sanderson to do a lot more worldbuilding than normal, since Jordan hadn't left a lot of material on Shara. It got cut from the book, but ended up seeing the light of day as the short piece ''River of Souls'' in the ''Unfettered'' anthology.
31st May '17 8:22:44 PM jormis29
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Nowadays, ''Series/TheWheelOfTime'' is considered by many to be a horrendously cliched example of how all fantasy books are too long, with series that go on seemingly without end and yet little happens in them. When the first volume was published, in 1991, most fantasy novels were actually quite short, and/or tended to be trilogies or quintets at the very longest. However, he inspired so many other writers to [[{{Padding}} pad out their volumes]] and stretch their stories over ten or twelve volumes that by the 2000's he tended to get lumped in with those he inspired, often cited as the UrExample, but rarely acknowledged as the man who started the trend.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Nowadays, ''Series/TheWheelOfTime'' ''The Wheel of Time'' is considered by many to be a horrendously cliched example of how all fantasy books are too long, with series that go on seemingly without end and yet little happens in them. When the first volume was published, in 1991, most fantasy novels were actually quite short, and/or tended to be trilogies or quintets at the very longest. However, he inspired so many other writers to [[{{Padding}} pad out their volumes]] and stretch their stories over ten or twelve volumes that by the 2000's he tended to get lumped in with those he inspired, often cited as the UrExample, but rarely acknowledged as the man who started the trend.
30th May '17 9:57:03 PM nombretomado
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*** The big one is that while RobertJordan was a veteran and graduate of the Citadel (a military college), BrandonSanderson has problems with battles and combat in general. In A Memory of Light, the forces of the Light make glaring mistakes that aren't explainable by the corruption of the high command. The forces holding a pass are mostly cavalry, while the forces fighting a rearguard action (in a forest!) are mostly ranged (with artillery!). The forces for an assault on (and subsequent defense of) the enemy main base are, a good part of them at least, irregulars without real equipment and supply. Also, an often used tactic for cavalry assaults is to rip the ground apart before they hit, as to make sure the horses stumble (in an assault!).

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*** The big one is that while RobertJordan Creator/RobertJordan was a veteran and graduate of the Citadel (a military college), BrandonSanderson has problems with battles and combat in general. In A Memory of Light, the forces of the Light make glaring mistakes that aren't explainable by the corruption of the high command. The forces holding a pass are mostly cavalry, while the forces fighting a rearguard action (in a forest!) are mostly ranged (with artillery!). The forces for an assault on (and subsequent defense of) the enemy main base are, a good part of them at least, irregulars without real equipment and supply. Also, an often used tactic for cavalry assaults is to rip the ground apart before they hit, as to make sure the horses stumble (in an assault!).
15th Feb '17 4:42:32 PM BlackMageAnolis
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*** The big one is that while RobertJordan was a veteran and graduate of the Citadel, BrandonSanderson has problems with battles and combat in general. In A Memory of Light, the forces of the Light make glaring mistakes that aren't explainable by the corruption of the high command. The forces holding a pass are mostly cavalry, while the forces fighting a rearguard action (in a forest!) are mostly ranged (with artillery!). The forces for an assault on (and subsequent defense of) the enemy main base are, a good part of them at least, irregulars without real equipment and supply. Also, an often used tactic for cavalry assaults is to rip the ground apart before they hit, as to make sure the horses stumble (in an assault!).

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*** The big one is that while RobertJordan was a veteran and graduate of the Citadel, Citadel (a military college), BrandonSanderson has problems with battles and combat in general. In A Memory of Light, the forces of the Light make glaring mistakes that aren't explainable by the corruption of the high command. The forces holding a pass are mostly cavalry, while the forces fighting a rearguard action (in a forest!) are mostly ranged (with artillery!). The forces for an assault on (and subsequent defense of) the enemy main base are, a good part of them at least, irregulars without real equipment and supply. Also, an often used tactic for cavalry assaults is to rip the ground apart before they hit, as to make sure the horses stumble (in an assault!).
24th Oct '16 11:01:07 PM omnicritic
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* AshcanCopy: On February 9th, 2015 (at 1:30 AM!), ''Winter Dragon'', a 30-minute adaptation of the introductory chapter of ''The Eye Of The World'' appeared on [[Creator/{{Fox}} FXX]]. What keeps it from being just another OneEpisodeWonder are the circumstances of its production. [[https://twitter.com/Sedavision According to the director's tweets]], [[ChristmasRushed filming began on January 20th and post-production was completed on February 4th]]. The TV rights to the ''Wheel of Time'' series were set to revert from Red Eagle Entertainment (who has held them since 2004) to The Bandersnatch Group (which is owned by the Robert Jordan estate) on February 11th. Needless to say, [[http://www.tor.com/blogs/2015/02/wheel-of-time-pilot-harriet-statement Jordan's widow was not pleased]]. Lawsuits are currently flying.

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* AshcanCopy: On February 9th, 2015 (at 1:30 AM!), ''Winter Dragon'', a 30-minute adaptation of the introductory chapter of ''The Eye Of The World'' appeared on [[Creator/{{Fox}} FXX]]. What keeps it from being just another OneEpisodeWonder are the circumstances of its production. [[https://twitter.com/Sedavision According to the director's tweets]], [[ChristmasRushed filming began on January 20th and post-production was completed on February 4th]]. The TV rights to the ''Wheel of Time'' series were set to revert from Red Eagle Entertainment (who has held them since 2004) to The Bandersnatch Group (which is owned by the Robert Jordan estate) on February 11th. Needless to say, [[http://www.tor.com/blogs/2015/02/wheel-of-time-pilot-harriet-statement Jordan's widow was not pleased]]. Lawsuits are currently flying. The lawsuits have been resolved, and Harriet has announced that a television adaptation is in the works.
16th Sep '15 3:59:48 PM jmparker78
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Nowadays, ''Series/TheWheelOfTime'' is considered by many to be a horrendously cliched example of how all fantasy books are too long, with series that go on seemingly without end and yet little happens in them. When the first volume was published, in 1991, most fantasy novels were actually quite short, and/or tended to be trilogies or quintets at the very longest. However, he inspired so many other writers to [[{{Padding}} pad out their volumes]] and stretch their stories over ten or twelve volumes that by the 2000's he tended to get lumped in with those he inspired, often cited as the UrExample, but rarely acknowledged as the man who started the trend.
14th Sep '15 11:27:14 PM Fireblood
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*** The big one is that while RobertJordan was a veteran and graduate of the Citadel, BrandonSanderson has problems with battles and combat in general. In A Memory of Light, the forces of the Light make glaring mistakes that aren't explainable by the corruption of the high command. The forces holding a pass are mostly cavalry, while the forces fighting a rearguard action (in a forest!) are mostly ranged (with artillery!). The forces for an assault on (and subsequent defense of) the enemy main base are, a good part of them at least, irregulars without real equipment and supply. Also, a often used tactic for cavalry assaults is to rip the ground apart before they hit, as to make sure the horses stumble (in an assault!).

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*** The big one is that while RobertJordan was a veteran and graduate of the Citadel, BrandonSanderson has problems with battles and combat in general. In A Memory of Light, the forces of the Light make glaring mistakes that aren't explainable by the corruption of the high command. The forces holding a pass are mostly cavalry, while the forces fighting a rearguard action (in a forest!) are mostly ranged (with artillery!). The forces for an assault on (and subsequent defense of) the enemy main base are, a good part of them at least, irregulars without real equipment and supply. Also, a an often used tactic for cavalry assaults is to rip the ground apart before they hit, as to make sure the horses stumble (in an assault!).
17th Feb '15 7:14:46 AM hbi2k
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* Supplementary links: (Spoilers Galore!)
** [[http://wotfaq.dragonmount.com/ The Wheel of Time FAQ]]
** [[http://www.encyclopaedia-wot.org/ Encyclopedia WoT]]
** [[http://pop.wheeloftime.org/index.php?topic=635.0 ISAM's mock summaries]] (An AbridgedSeries parody, up to Book 10)
** [[http://wot.wikia.com/wiki/A_beginning Wheel Of Time Wiki]]
** [[http://www.tor.com/features/series/wot-reread The Wheel of Time Reread]] with BigNameFan Leigh Butler, former curator of aforementioned WoT FAQ. Treat as you would any {{Recap}} section.
17th Feb '15 7:14:28 AM hbi2k
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* AshcanCopy: On February 9th, 2015 (at 1:30 AM!), ''Winter Dragon'', a 30-minute adaptation of the introductory chapter of ''The Eye Of The World'' appeared on [[Creator/{{Fox}} FXX]]. What keeps it from being just another OneEpisodeWonder are the circumstances of its production. [[https://twitter.com/Sedavision According to the director's tweets]], [[ChristmasRushed filming began on January 20th and post-production was completed on February 4th]]. The TV rights to the ''Wheel of Time'' series were set to revert from Red Eagle Entertainment (who has held them since 2004) to The Bandersnatch Group (which is owned by the Robert Jordan estate) on February 11th. Needless to say, [[http://www.tor.com/blogs/2015/02/wheel-of-time-pilot-harriet-statement Jordan's widow was not pleased]]. Lawsuits are currently flying.
27th Oct '14 4:39:30 PM Fireblood
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** While BrandonSanderson did a fine job indeed some differences are glaring

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** While BrandonSanderson did a fine job indeed some differences are glaringglaring.
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