History Trivia / TheRenAndStimpyShow

8th Apr '18 11:19:16 AM Prinzenick
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** As Bob Camp and Billy West have pointed out, many episodes of the first two seasons, most notably "Man's Best Friend", are basically John K venting his anger against his hardass father and the rough childhood he put him through.
** "Reverend Jack Cheese" is basically the Games Animation crew telling the audience what it was like working under John K in the first two seasons.
8th Apr '18 11:16:29 AM Prinzenick
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* RealitySubtext: ''Ren and Stimpy'' premiered at the tail end of the AIDS crisis, and a big part of its controversy was American parents not only finding the show disgusting but fearing the ramifications of children laughing at bodily fluids at a time when most of the country was outwardly afraid of them.

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''Ren and Stimpy'' premiered at the tail end of the AIDS crisis, and a big part of its controversy was American parents not only finding the show disgusting but fearing the ramifications of children laughing at bodily fluids at a time when most of the country was outwardly afraid of them.them.
** Its no accident that many episodes are centered around Ren's mental instability, considering its come to light that John K has suffered from at least two mental illnesses (which he self medicated with alcohol) that went undiagnosed for years, including bipolar disorder.
8th Apr '18 11:10:09 AM Prinzenick
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* FranchiseKiller: "Adult Party Cartoon" was so unspeakably ''bad'' that it destroyed any chance of ''The Ren & Stimpy Show'' ever being rebooted. The [[https://www.buzzfeed.com/arianelange/john-kricfalusi-ren-stimpy-underage-sexual-abuse 2018 allegations]] against John Kricfalusi have also tainted the series' reputation.

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* FranchiseKiller: "Adult Party Cartoon" was so unspeakably ''bad'' that it destroyed any chance of ''The Ren & Stimpy Show'' ever being rebooted. The [[https://www.buzzfeed.com/arianelange/john-kricfalusi-ren-stimpy-underage-sexual-abuse 2018 allegations]] against John Kricfalusi have also tainted the series' reputation. The scandal has also caused reruns of Ren and Stimpy to be yanked from Series/NickSplat as of April 2018.
4th Apr '18 9:26:20 PM SamMax
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* FranchiseKiller: "Adult Party Cartoon" was so unspeakably ''bad'' that it destroyed any chance of ''The Ren & Stimpy Show'' ever being rebooted. The [[https://www.buzzfeed.com/arianelange/john-kricfalusi-ren-stimpy-underage-sexual-abuse 2008 allegations]] against John Kricfalusi have also tainted the series' reputation.

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* FranchiseKiller: "Adult Party Cartoon" was so unspeakably ''bad'' that it destroyed any chance of ''The Ren & Stimpy Show'' ever being rebooted. The [[https://www.buzzfeed.com/arianelange/john-kricfalusi-ren-stimpy-underage-sexual-abuse 2008 2018 allegations]] against John Kricfalusi have also tainted the series' reputation.
4th Apr '18 10:25:52 AM Nopperabo
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* FranchiseKiller: "Adult Party Cartoon" was so unspeakably ''bad'' that it destroyed any chance of ''The Ren & Stimpy Show'' ever being rebooted. The [[https://www.buzzfeed.com/arianelange/john-kricfalusi-ren-stimpy-underage-sexual-abuse 2008 allegations]] against John Kricfalusi have also tainted the series' reputation.
3rd Apr '18 6:54:36 PM Cartoonlover1991
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** However, Stimpy was a playable character in 2007's Attack of the Toybots.

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** However, Stimpy was a playable character in 2007's Attack of the Toybots.Toybots, and in Nicktoons MLB, Ren, Stimpy, Powdered Toast Man and Yak were playable characters as well.
1st Apr '18 4:00:20 PM Prinzenick
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** Series co-creator Bob Camp had his career left in shambles due to the divisive reception of the post-John K episodes he directed at the time, as well as John K, who Camp claimed approved him directed Ren and Stimpy in his steed, [[KickTheDog proceeding to stab him in the back]] and launch a smear campaign against the Games era Ren and Stimpy episodes in magazines like "Wild Cartoon Kingdom", [[MadeOutToBeAJerkAss painting Bob Camp as a sellout and backstabber to Spumco]] (Camp, mind you, had a family and a whole studio to care for and had to work very hard to keep Ren and Stimpy from missing deadlines and going overbudget again like it did during John's run) and after the show ended, he was basically a pariah in the animation industry and it was difficult for him to find steady work again. It took him years before he gradually [[CareerResurrection got his reputation and animation career back together]] when John K's prima donna behaviour came to light and Camp was finally able to get people to believe his side of the story.

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** Series co-creator Bob Camp had his career left in shambles due to the divisive reception of the post-John K episodes he directed at the time, as well as John K, who Camp claimed approved him directed Ren and Stimpy in his steed, [[KickTheDog proceeding to stab him in the back]] and launch a smear campaign against the Games era Ren and Stimpy episodes in magazines like "Wild Cartoon Kingdom", [[MadeOutToBeAJerkAss painting Bob Camp as a sellout and backstabber to Spumco]] (Camp, mind you, had a family and a whole studio to care for and had to work very hard to keep Ren and Stimpy from missing deadlines and going overbudget again like it did during John's run) and after the show ended, he was basically a pariah in the animation industry and it was difficult for him to find steady work again. To add insult to injury, John K used the DVD commentaries on the later Ren and Stimpy boxsets to continue painting Camp and his cartoons in a bad light, and unlike Camp, John got royalties from both the show and the commentaries. It took him Bob years before he gradually [[CareerResurrection got his reputation and animation career back together]] when John K's prima donna behaviour came to light and Camp was finally able to get people to believe his side of the story.
1st Apr '18 3:36:16 PM Prinzenick
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** Series co-creator Bob Camp had his career left in shambles due to the divisive reception of the post-John K episodes he directed at the time, as well as John K, who Camp claimed approved him directed Ren and Stimpy in his steed, [[KickTheDog proceeded to stab him in the back]] and launch a smear campaign against the Games Ren and Stimpy episodes in magazines like "Wild Cartoon Kingdom", [[MadeOutToBeAJerkAss painting Bob Camp as a sellout and backstabber to Spumco]] (Camp, mind you, had a family and a whole studio to care for and had to work very hard to keep Ren and Stimpy from missing deadlines and going overbudget again like it did during John's run) and after the show ended, he was basically an animation pariah and it was difficult for him to find steady work again. It took him years before he gradually [[CareerResurrection got his reputation and animation career back together]] when John K's prima donna behaviour came to light and Camp was finally able to get people to believe his side of the story.

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** Series co-creator Bob Camp had his career left in shambles due to the divisive reception of the post-John K episodes he directed at the time, as well as John K, who Camp claimed approved him directed Ren and Stimpy in his steed, [[KickTheDog proceeded proceeding to stab him in the back]] and launch a smear campaign against the Games era Ren and Stimpy episodes in magazines like "Wild Cartoon Kingdom", [[MadeOutToBeAJerkAss painting Bob Camp as a sellout and backstabber to Spumco]] (Camp, mind you, had a family and a whole studio to care for and had to work very hard to keep Ren and Stimpy from missing deadlines and going overbudget again like it did during John's run) and after the show ended, he was basically an a pariah in the animation pariah industry and it was difficult for him to find steady work again. It took him years before he gradually [[CareerResurrection got his reputation and animation career back together]] when John K's prima donna behaviour came to light and Camp was finally able to get people to believe his side of the story.
1st Apr '18 3:34:06 PM Prinzenick
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** Series co-creator Bob Camp had his career left in shambles due to the divisive reception of the post-John K episodes he directed at the time, as well as John K, who Camp claimed approved him directed Ren and Stimpy in his steed, [[KickTheDog proceeded to stab him in the back]] and launch a smear campaign against the Games Ren and Stimpy episodes in magazines like "Wild Cartoon Kingdom", [[MadeOutToBeAJerkAss painting Bob Camp as a sellout and backstabber to Spumco]] (Camp, mind you, had a family and a whole studio to care for and had to work very hard to keep Ren and Stimpy from missing deadlines and going overbudget again like it did during John's run) and after the show ended, he was basically an animation pariah and it was difficult for him to find steady work again. It took him years before he gradually [[CareerResurrection got his reputation and animation career back together]] when John K's prima donna behaviour came to light and Camp was finally able to get people to believe his side of the story.
** William Wray had such a miserable experience working under John K and was so hurt by the massive scorn the Games era R&S episodes got that he retired from animation for years and went into painting, and has only recently began to do animation work again.
1st Apr '18 11:29:45 AM Prinzenick
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* CreatorBreakdown: According to William Wray, a combo of John K losing the show, letting the shows success get to his lead ''and'' losing his longtime girlfriend during its production were all factors in his career gradually spiraling downhill from then on.

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* CreatorBreakdown: According to William Wray, a combo of John K losing the show, letting the shows success get to his lead head ''and'' losing his longtime girlfriend during its production were all factors in his career gradually spiraling downhill from then on.
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