History Trivia / TheRenAndStimpyShow

26th Mar '17 7:49:53 PM Upgrader
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* ExecutiveMeddling: Nickelodeon messed about with this show extensively due to censorship issues and John K's inability to make deadlines. The latter ending up being the final straw as he was ultimately fired for not getting the new episodes out on time .
** John K's firing is a controversial topic subject to much debate. For years, John K. claimed he was done in over content and portrayed himself as a martyr but when Adult Party was launched, former colleagues Billy West and Bill Wray came forward to call John K. out on lying and that his laziness was what really got him fired.
** Characterization also was affected, since John K. was allegedly asked to place more genuinely heartwarming moments in the series as well as make [[TheSociopath Ren]] [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold a more ultimately kind intentioned character]]. Ironically these elements were mostly depleted after John K. left.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: ExecutiveMeddling:
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Nickelodeon messed about with this show extensively due to many censorship issues and issues. John K's inability to make deadlines. The latter deadlines did not help relations between him and Nick, as that ending up being the final straw as he leading to Spumco's firing from the series.
*** Characterization also
was affected, since John K. allegedly made a deal for less censorship in exchange for placing more genuinely heartwarming moments in the series as well as make [[TheSociopath Ren]] [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold a more ultimately fired for not getting the new episodes out on time .
kind intentioned character]]. Ironically those elements were mostly depleted after John K. left.
** John K's firing is a controversial topic subject to much debate. For years, John K. claimed he was done in over content (specifically, in "Man's Best Friend") and portrayed himself as a martyr but martyr. But when Adult Party APC was launched, former colleagues Billy West and Bill Wray came forward to call John K. out on lying and that his laziness was what really got him fired.
** Characterization also was affected, since John K. was allegedly asked to place more genuinely heartwarming moments
fired.
*** And speaking of the Adult Party Cartoon, another controversial topic is Spike TV's role
in the series as well as make [[TheSociopath Ren]] [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold a more ultimately kind intentioned character]]. Ironically these elements revival's failure. Apparently, the execs were mostly depleted after the ones who pushed John K. left.K to put in adult content, but then again, "Ren Seeks Help" [[http://johnkstuff.blogspot.mx/2006/06/apc-trailer-ren-seeks-help.html was written in 1991]]... It's entirely possible that Nick's meddling in back in the 90's was the only thing keeping John K from going completely overboard.



* FranchiseKiller: The cancellation of ''Ren and Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon'' put the kibosh on the franchise. In fact, ''Adult Party Cartoon'' was so bad that [[http://screenrant.com/nicktoons-movie-ren-stimpy/ Paramount doesn't want Ren and Stimpy included in their Nicktoons reboot]].

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* FranchiseKiller: The cancellation of ''Ren and Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon'' put the kibosh on the franchise. In fact, ''Adult Party Cartoon'' was so bad that [[http://screenrant.com/nicktoons-movie-ren-stimpy/ Paramount doesn't want anything to do with Ren and Stimpy included in their Nicktoons reboot]].Stimpy]].



** Paramount treats ''Adult Party Cartoon'' this way due to killing the series stone dead and leaving it saddled with an adults only stigma. They let the DVD set fall out of print while keeping the main Ren and Stimpy DVDs in stores, and they have said they have no plans to ever revive ''Ren and Stimpy'' again because of APC's failure.

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** Paramount treats ''Adult Party Cartoon'' this way due to killing the series stone dead and leaving it saddled with an adults only stigma. They let the DVD set fall out of print while keeping the main Ren and Stimpy DVDs [=DVDs=] in stores, and they have said they have no plans to ever revive ''Ren and Stimpy'' again because of APC's failure.
22nd Mar '17 8:55:14 AM Prinzenick
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* AscendedMeme: [[DefiedTrope Defied.]] John K has stated on his Facebook that he refuses to draw commissions depicting Ren as [[Film/TheForceAwakens Kylo Ren]], due to both his hatred of ''Franchise/StarWars'' and the fact that he hasn't even seen the newer films. When a fan asked him for one, he refused--but he also felt bad for the fan, so he did a drawing of Ren and Stimpy as the [[Series/{{Batman}} 60's Batman and Robin]] [[PetTheDog to make up for it.]]
22nd Mar '17 8:46:03 AM Prinzenick
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* ExiledFromContinuity: Due to the infamous stigma left behind from ''Adult Party Cartoon'', Nickelodeon has stated that ''Ren and Stimpy'' will not be included in their reboots of the old Nicktoons lineup.



* OldShame: Katie Rice, with whom [[WhatCouldHaveBeen John was developing a project at the time]], was featured in [[http://i.imgur.com/2ldgxPW.jpg an incredibly awkward live-action segment]] on the DVD of Adult Party Cartoon, with John talking to her like a DirtyOldMan. After years of avoiding it, she finally watched it, then threw away the DVD the next day.

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* OldShame: OldShame:
** Paramount treats ''Adult Party Cartoon'' this way due to killing the series stone dead and leaving it saddled with an adults only stigma. They let the DVD set fall out of print while keeping the main Ren and Stimpy DVDs in stores, and they have said they have no plans to ever revive ''Ren and Stimpy'' again because of APC's failure.
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Katie Rice, with whom [[WhatCouldHaveBeen John was developing a project at the time]], was featured in [[http://i.imgur.com/2ldgxPW.jpg an incredibly awkward live-action segment]] on the DVD of Adult Party Cartoon, with John talking to her like a DirtyOldMan. After years of avoiding it, she finally watched it, then threw away the DVD the next day.
21st Mar '17 1:29:00 PM SupahFranky329
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* FranchiseKiller: The cancellation of ''Ren and Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon'' put the kibosh on the franchise.

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* FranchiseKiller: The cancellation of ''Ren and Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon'' put the kibosh on the franchise. In fact, ''Adult Party Cartoon'' was so bad that [[http://screenrant.com/nicktoons-movie-ren-stimpy/ Paramount doesn't want Ren and Stimpy included in their Nicktoons reboot]].
21st Feb '17 2:45:26 PM SamMax
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** The Creator/MarvelComics series is this in its entirety. The main culprit would probably be the fact that Creator/{{Disney}} owns Marvel, while the ''Ren & Stimpy'' franchise is owned by Creator/{{Nickelodeon}}, and they're essentially Disney's competitors, which probably makes a reprint of any sort difficult, if not impossible.

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** The Creator/MarvelComics series is this in its entirety. The main culprit would probably be the fact that Creator/{{Disney}} owns Marvel, had bought Marvel years after their publication, while the ''Ren & Stimpy'' franchise is owned by Creator/{{Nickelodeon}}, and they're essentially Disney's competitors, which probably makes a reprint of any sort difficult, if not impossible.
21st Feb '17 2:43:51 PM SamMax
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** The Creator/MarvelComics series are this in their entirety. The main culprit would probably be the fact that Creator/{{Disney}} owns Marvel, while the ''Ren & Stimpy'' franchise is owned by Creator/{{Nickelodeon}}, and they're essentially Disney's competitors, which probably makes a reprint of any sort difficult, if not impossible.

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** The Creator/MarvelComics series are is this in their its entirety. The main culprit would probably be the fact that Creator/{{Disney}} owns Marvel, while the ''Ren & Stimpy'' franchise is owned by Creator/{{Nickelodeon}}, and they're essentially Disney's competitors, which probably makes a reprint of any sort difficult, if not impossible.
21st Feb '17 2:43:01 PM SamMax
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** The Creator/MarvelComics series are this in their entirety. The main culprit would probably be the fact that Creator/{{Disney}} owns Marvel, while the ''Ren & Stimpy'' franchise is owned by Creator/{{Nickelodeon}}, and they're essentially Disney's competitors, which probably makes a reprint of any sort difficult, if not impossible.
9th Feb '17 7:10:26 PM NWolfman
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* OldShame: Katie Rice has a [[http://i.imgur.com/2ldgxPW.jpg particularly cringey segment with John K]] on the DVD of Adult Party Cartoon. After years of avoiding it, she finally watched it, then threw away the DVD the next day.

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* OldShame: Katie Rice has Rice, with whom [[WhatCouldHaveBeen John was developing a project at the time]], was featured in [[http://i.imgur.com/2ldgxPW.jpg particularly cringey segment with John K]] an incredibly awkward live-action segment]] on the DVD of Adult Party Cartoon.Cartoon, with John talking to her like a DirtyOldMan. After years of avoiding it, she finally watched it, then threw away the DVD the next day.
8th Feb '17 8:19:40 PM naoi
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* OldShame: Katie Rice said on her Twitter that after years of keeping around the ''Ren and Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon'' DVD without watching it, she eventually played it and immediately threw it in the trash.

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* OldShame: Katie Rice said has a [[http://i.imgur.com/2ldgxPW.jpg particularly cringey segment with John K]] on her Twitter that after years of keeping around the ''Ren and Stimpy: DVD of Adult Party Cartoon'' DVD without watching Cartoon. After years of avoiding it, she eventually played it and immediately finally watched it, then threw it in away the trash.DVD the next day.
8th Feb '17 7:27:19 AM naoi
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* OldShame: Katie Wallander (whose name was Katie Rice when she worked on the show) said on her Twitter that she is openly embarrassed about having worked on ''Ren and Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon'', to the point where she refused to watch it for years. And when she did pop in the Lost Episodes DVD one day, she was so revolted at what she helped make that her DVD of it went in the trash the next day. To date, she refuses to talk about her time working at Spumco.

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* OldShame: Katie Wallander (whose name was Katie Rice when she worked on the show) said on her Twitter that she is openly embarrassed about having worked on after years of keeping around the ''Ren and Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon'', to the point where Cartoon'' DVD without watching it, she refused to watch eventually played it for years. And when she did pop and immediately threw it in the Lost Episodes DVD one day, she was so revolted at what she helped make that her DVD of it went in the trash the next day. To date, she refuses to talk about her time working at Spumco.trash.
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