History Trivia / TheLordOfTheRings

21st Jan '17 2:06:22 PM CaptEquinox
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** "Lothlorien" is the former name of the thriving nature sanctuary/spiritual retreat (or non-Wiccan pagan/hippie commune) in Lawrence County, Indiana. Its founding documents were a poetic combination of Tolkien's idealism toward nature and "Christ Light" doctrine, making it a really NewAgeRetroHippie establishment. Today, it's called [[http://www.elvinhome.org/index.php Elvin H.O.M.E.]]
21st Jan '17 1:59:48 PM CaptEquinox
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** The Music/LedZeppelin songs "Misty Mountain Hop", "Ramble On", "Stairway to Heaven", "Over the Hills and Far Away" and "Battle of Evermore" all refer to people, places and situations in the books. But they are only the best known references. There are thousands of others. Tom Rapp, Pearls Before Swine's frontman, set most of the "Three rings for the Elven-kings..." lyric to music, called it "Ring Thing" and put it on the ''Balaklava'' album. The men's choral pop group [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Association The Association]][[note]]perhaps best remembered for "Along Comes Mary", "Windy" and "Never My Love"[[/note]] had a soft song called "Toymaker" with these lines: "Picture book, Pippin Took/Taking a look." There have been several bands called the Hobbits and a number of albums with titles like ''Middle-earth'', ''Lothlorien'' and so on. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_inspired_by_J._R._R._Tolkien#Rock_music Much more here.]]
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6th Jan '17 9:44:59 AM hullflyer
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** The filmmakers tried to create the "Gollum into the lava" scene true to the book, but the take with Gollum simply falling into the lava while celebrating was deemed too anticlimactic. So they tried again, filming a scene where Frodo [[WhatTheHellHero deliberately pushes Gollum and the Ring into the lava]]. ''That'' was basically murder, so they [[TakeAThirdOption filmed a third take]], which is the one we see in the final product.

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** The filmmakers tried to create the "Gollum into the lava" scene true to the book, but the take with Gollum simply falling into the lava while celebrating was deemed too anticlimactic. So they tried again, filming a scene where Frodo [[WhatTheHellHero deliberately pushes Gollum and the Ring into the lava]]. ''That'' was basically murder, so they [[TakeAThirdOption filmed a third take]], take]] where they still fight, but Gollum's fall is an accident, which is the one we see in the final product.
6th Jan '17 7:50:13 AM TrueBlue170
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** During the scene in Ithilien when Faramir attempted to take the Ring from Frodo (only to be stopped by Sam), the original intention was to have Frodo have a moment where he changed into a hideous Gollum-like appearance, as Bilbo did in Rivendell. Although this was cut, you can still see traces of it in the moment where Frodo, face hidden from the camera, cowers against the rock, and the greatly disturbed look on Faramir's face.

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** During the scene in Ithilien when Faramir attempted to take the Ring from Frodo (only to be stopped by Sam), the original intention was to have Frodo have a moment where he changed into a hideous Gollum-like appearance, as Bilbo did in Rivendell. Although this was cut, you can still see traces of it in the moment where Frodo, face hidden from the camera, cowers against the rock, and the greatly disturbed look on Faramir's face. Images of Elijah's makeup tests of this scene can be found [[http://onedio.co/content/did-frodo-become-gollum-in-lotr-a-deleted-scene-revealed-11893 here.]]
6th Jan '17 7:25:05 AM TrueBlue170
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** The narration in the prologue for ''Fellowship'' by Galadriel was originally going to be spoken by Frodo -- Elijah Wood even did a recording, but the filmmakers felt that not only did the information in the prologue have little bearing on Frodo's character, but there was also the FridgeLogic of him knowing that information -- and if he did know all of that, he would have had to have learned it during the trilogy and it would have been a bit of a spoiler alert to the fact that [[spoiler:he survives]]. So then they got Ian [=McKellen=] as Gandalf to do a recording of the narration, but decided again that he wasn't the right person to be saying this. They eventually picked Cate Blanchett as Galadriel, emphasising the timelessness of the elves.

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** The narration in the prologue for ''Fellowship'' by Galadriel was originally going intended to be spoken by Frodo -- Elijah Wood even did a recording, but the filmmakers felt that not only did the information in the prologue have little bearing on Frodo's character, but there was also the FridgeLogic of him knowing that information -- and if he did know all of that, he would have had to have learned it during the trilogy and it would have been a bit of a spoiler alert to the fact that [[spoiler:he survives]]. So then they got Ian [=McKellen=] as Gandalf to do a recording of the narration, but decided again that he wasn't the right person to be saying this. They eventually picked Cate Blanchett as Galadriel, Galadriel to speak these lines, emphasising the timelessness of the elves.
2nd Jan '17 10:53:14 PM bombadil211
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** Creator/JohnRhysDavies couldn't be bothered to learn most of the fight choreography. According to Creator/DominicMonaghan fight scenes involving John were along the lines of John telling the stunt men to charge in a certain order and hitting them as they closed in.
27th Dec '16 3:58:33 AM fibonnaciseries
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* Using math, it can be found out that the life span of hobbits is actually much shorter than the average human. In human years, Bilbo only lived to be about 60 and he was considered extremely old.
5th Dec '16 1:44:23 AM TrueBlue170
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** The narration in the prologue for ''Fellowship'' by Galadriel was originally going to be spoken by Frodo -- Elijah Wood even did a recording, but the filmmakers felt that not only did the information in the prologue have little bearing on Frodo's character, but there was also the FridgeLogic of him knowing that information -- and if he did know all of that, he would have had to have learned it during the trilogy and it would have been a bit of a spoiler alert to the fact that [[spoiler:he survives]]. So then they got Ian [=McKellen=] as Gandalf to do a recording of the narration, decided again that he wasn't the right person to be saying this. They eventually picked Cate Blanchett as Galadriel, emphasising the timelessness of the elves.

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** The narration in the prologue for ''Fellowship'' by Galadriel was originally going to be spoken by Frodo -- Elijah Wood even did a recording, but the filmmakers felt that not only did the information in the prologue have little bearing on Frodo's character, but there was also the FridgeLogic of him knowing that information -- and if he did know all of that, he would have had to have learned it during the trilogy and it would have been a bit of a spoiler alert to the fact that [[spoiler:he survives]]. So then they got Ian [=McKellen=] as Gandalf to do a recording of the narration, but decided again that he wasn't the right person to be saying this. They eventually picked Cate Blanchett as Galadriel, emphasising the timelessness of the elves.
2nd Dec '16 4:49:40 AM TrueBlue170
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** The prologue's narration by Galadriel was originally going to be spoken by Frodo -- Elijah Wood even did a recording, but the filmmakers felt that not only did the information in the prologue have little bearing on Frodo's character, but there was also the FridgeLogic of him knowing that information -- and if he did know all of that, he would have had to have learned it during the trilogy and it would have been a bit of a spoiler alert to the fact that [[spoiler:he survives]]. So then they got Ian [=McKellen=] as Gandalf to do a recording of the narration, decided again that he wasn't the right person to be saying this. They eventually picked Cate Blanchett as Galadriel, emphasising the timelessness of the elves.

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** The prologue's narration in the prologue for ''Fellowship'' by Galadriel was originally going to be spoken by Frodo -- Elijah Wood even did a recording, but the filmmakers felt that not only did the information in the prologue have little bearing on Frodo's character, but there was also the FridgeLogic of him knowing that information -- and if he did know all of that, he would have had to have learned it during the trilogy and it would have been a bit of a spoiler alert to the fact that [[spoiler:he survives]]. So then they got Ian [=McKellen=] as Gandalf to do a recording of the narration, decided again that he wasn't the right person to be saying this. They eventually picked Cate Blanchett as Galadriel, emphasising the timelessness of the elves.
2nd Dec '16 4:48:55 AM TrueBlue170
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** The prologue's narration by Galadriel was originally going to be spoken by Frodo -- Elijah Wood even did a recording, but they felt that not only did the information in the prologue have little bearing on Frodo's character, but there was also the FridgeLogic of him knowing that information -- and if he did know all of this, he would have had to have learned it during the trilogy and it would have been a bit of a spoiler alert to the fact that [[spoiler:he survives]]. So then they got Ian McKellen as Gandalf to do a recording of the narration, decided again that he wasn't the right person to be saying this -- eventually picking Cate Blanchett as Galadriel, emphasising the timelessness of the elves.

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** The prologue's narration by Galadriel was originally going to be spoken by Frodo -- Elijah Wood even did a recording, but they the filmmakers felt that not only did the information in the prologue have little bearing on Frodo's character, but there was also the FridgeLogic of him knowing that information -- and if he did know all of this, that, he would have had to have learned it during the trilogy and it would have been a bit of a spoiler alert to the fact that [[spoiler:he survives]]. So then they got Ian McKellen [=McKellen=] as Gandalf to do a recording of the narration, decided again that he wasn't the right person to be saying this -- this. They eventually picking picked Cate Blanchett as Galadriel, emphasising the timelessness of the elves.
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