History Trivia / TheIronGiant

26th Jun '17 9:40:19 PM NWolfman
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* DuelingMovies: With Disney's entry for it's [[DisneyAnimatedCanon canon]] that year, ''Disney/Tarzan'', though [[DavidVersusGoliath it was hardly a duel]]: the Disney film had a year's worth of hype, not to mention notoriety out the wazoo, which this scrappy little film made by a tentative subsidiary of Warner Bros. and only saw a few weeks of advertisement couldn't compete with. Ironically, ''Tarzan'' has since faded into a footnote on Disney's history while ''Giant'' is now called one of the greatest animated features ever.[[note]]At the film's wrap party, Brad Bird bragged about how their film finished all it's animation three months before the ''Tarzan'' animators and jokingly called them "pussies."[[/note]]

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* DuelingMovies: With Disney's entry for it's [[DisneyAnimatedCanon canon]] that year, ''Disney/Tarzan'', ''Disney/{{Tarzan}}'', though [[DavidVersusGoliath it was hardly a duel]]: the Disney film had a year's worth of hype, not to mention notoriety out the wazoo, which this scrappy little film made by a tentative subsidiary of Warner Bros. and only saw a few weeks of advertisement couldn't compete with. Ironically, ''Tarzan'' has since faded into a footnote on Disney's history while ''Giant'' is now called one of the greatest animated features ever.[[note]]At the film's wrap party, Brad Bird bragged about how their film finished all it's animation three months before the ''Tarzan'' animators and jokingly called them "pussies."[[/note]]
26th Jun '17 9:40:01 PM NWolfman
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* DuelingMovies: With Disney's entry for it's [[DisneyAnimatedCanon canon]] that year, ''Disney/Tarzan''. Compare and contrast: while both were major animated released in 1999, one was a multi-million dollar hype-machine musical, made by a then-70-year-old animation studio and an experienced crew, and had a year's worth of advertising to ensure it's success, while the other was made by a RagtagTeamOfMusfits for a barely-three-years-old subsidiary of a major studio, who were so reluctant to see how the film would fair that it got next to no advertisement. That said, while the original theatrical release was [[DavidVersusGoliath only barely a duel]], ''Tarzan'' has faded into a footnote on Disney's history while ''Giant'' is now called one of the greatest animated features ever.

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* DuelingMovies: With Disney's entry for it's [[DisneyAnimatedCanon canon]] that year, ''Disney/Tarzan''. Compare and contrast: while both were major animated released in 1999, one ''Disney/Tarzan'', though [[DavidVersusGoliath it was hardly a multi-million dollar hype-machine musical, made by a then-70-year-old animation studio and an experienced crew, and duel]]: the Disney film had a year's worth of advertising hype, not to ensure it's success, while mention notoriety out the other was wazoo, which this scrappy little film made by a RagtagTeamOfMusfits for a barely-three-years-old tentative subsidiary of a major studio, who were so reluctant to see how the film would fair that it got next to no advertisement. That said, while the original theatrical release was [[DavidVersusGoliath Warner Bros. and only barely saw a duel]], few weeks of advertisement couldn't compete with. Ironically, ''Tarzan'' has since faded into a footnote on Disney's history while ''Giant'' is now called one of the greatest animated features ever.[[note]]At the film's wrap party, Brad Bird bragged about how their film finished all it's animation three months before the ''Tarzan'' animators and jokingly called them "pussies."[[/note]]
26th Jun '17 9:34:45 PM NWolfman
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* AdoredByTheNetwork: Cartoon Network was rather infamous for their annual 24-hour marathons of this movie in the early 2000s, which led to the movie gaining a cult following. Creator/DiscoveryFamily (the one-time Hub network) quite likes to air it, too. Not to mention the guys who work on the [[WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime other super-popular show]] state it was an influence on the friendship between the Autobots and the humans. Supposedly Cartoon Network's adoration was mandated by Ted Turner himself, who saw the film for an in-flight movie and declared it one of the best films he'd ever seen.

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* AdoredByTheNetwork: Cartoon Network was rather infamous for their annual 24-hour marathons of this movie in the early 2000s, which led to the movie gaining a cult following. Creator/DiscoveryFamily (the one-time Hub network) quite likes to air it, too. Not to mention the guys who work on the [[WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime other super-popular show]] state it was an influence on the friendship between the Autobots and the humans. Supposedly Cartoon Network's adoration was mandated by AdoredByTheNetwork:
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Ted Turner himself, who saw the film for on an in-flight movie and declared it one of the best films he'd ever seen.seen, he started Cartoon Network's infamous 24-hour marathons during Thanksgiving weekend in the early 2000, which helped it gain it's cult following. The crew for ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'' even cite this film as an influence on their show's friendship between the Autobots and the humans.
** Warner Bros. seems to have gone out of it's way to "apologize" for screwing up the film's theatrical run by giving it a huge marketing blitz on home video, funding the new scenes for the signature edition and re-releasing it in theaters sixteen years later, once they discovered how popular it was.


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* DuelingMovies: With Disney's entry for it's [[DisneyAnimatedCanon canon]] that year, ''Disney/Tarzan''. Compare and contrast: while both were major animated released in 1999, one was a multi-million dollar hype-machine musical, made by a then-70-year-old animation studio and an experienced crew, and had a year's worth of advertising to ensure it's success, while the other was made by a RagtagTeamOfMusfits for a barely-three-years-old subsidiary of a major studio, who were so reluctant to see how the film would fair that it got next to no advertisement. That said, while the original theatrical release was [[DavidVersusGoliath only barely a duel]], ''Tarzan'' has faded into a footnote on Disney's history while ''Giant'' is now called one of the greatest animated features ever.
26th Jun '17 9:20:00 PM NWolfman
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* {{Deleted Scene}}s:
** There was originally going to be a brief flashback in which the audience would see a few vague details about the Giant's origins, but it was ultimately scrapped. The idea was to have a scene where he dreams about the [[AbsentAliens alien factory]] where he was built (and destroying an alien world with an army of other robots), and to have the dream transmitted electronically to Dean's television for the audience to see. The scene was never fully animated until the Signature Edition happened. The storyboard animatic can be seen [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05XM9huSWNU here]].
** A chat that Annie and Dean share at the diner about Hogarth's loneliness also remained unfinished, for budget reasons. It also made it into the Signature Edition, to help flesh out their relationship.

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** There was originally going to be a brief flashback in Two which the audience would see a few vague details about the Giant's origins, but it was ultimately scrapped. The idea was to have a scene where he dreams about the [[AbsentAliens alien factory]] where he was built (and destroying an alien world with an army of other robots), and to have the dream transmitted electronically to Dean's television for the audience to see. The scene was never fully were animated until for the Signature Edition happened. The storyboard animatic can be seen [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05XM9huSWNU here]].
** A chat that
Edition: one in which the Giant has a dream flashing back to it's origin as one of an army who destroyed other alien worlds and another in which Annie and Dean share chat about Hogarth at the diner diner, developing their relationship.
** One scene in which Hogarth and Annie briefly talk
about his deceased father after getting their car out of a mud puddle.
** The original opening had the Giant crashing down on a much larger sea crew as they were caught in the eye of the storm.
** Another scene would have shown how
Hogarth's loneliness also remained unfinished, for budget reasons. [[GradeSkipper above-average intelligence]] made him unpopular at school, explaining why [[TheFriendNobodyLikes he didn't have any friends his age]]. It also made it into would have shown more of Cloris Leachman's performance as Hogarth's teacher. In the Signature Edition, movie proper, this is relegated to help flesh out their relationship.a passing line during Hogarth's [[MotorMouth espresso-fueled monologue]] and Leachman's role was reduced to a single line ("Don't make me come over there!")



** What little advertising that eventually saw the light of day was either vague or [[TrailersAlwaysLie inaccurate]]. One of it's only two posters was in the style of a '50s BMove-style with the tagline "It came from outer space!" while the trailers played it up as a TotallyRadical movie about "The newest face of heavy metal," complete with cheesy thrash metal music. Brad Bird remembers having a panic attack when he went to a multiplex in LA opening weekend and saw no posters or even a lobby card, instead a descheveled cardboard cutout outside it's one theater and a ''hand written note'' scotch-tapped to the times, respectively. The screening itself only had an audience of about a dozen.

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** What little advertising that eventually saw the light of day was either vague or [[TrailersAlwaysLie inaccurate]]. One of it's only two posters was in the style of a '50s BMove-style BMovie-style with the tagline "It came from outer space!" while the trailers played it up as a TotallyRadical movie about "The newest face of heavy metal," complete with cheesy thrash metal music. Brad Bird remembers having a panic attack when he went to a multiplex in LA opening weekend and saw no posters or even a lobby card, instead a descheveled cardboard cutout outside it's one theater and a ''hand written note'' scotch-tapped to the times, respectively. The screening itself only had an audience of about a dozen.


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* TroubledProduction: As described in the documentary, ''A Giant's Dream,'' and on ThisVeryWiki: an extremely short turnaround time, a crew consisting mostly of first-time feature film artists, and an apathetic studio who waited too long to decide whether or not to advertise it.
26th Jun '17 9:00:51 PM NWolfman
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* InvisibleAdvertising: And how! Warner Bros.' ambitions to get into feature animation were dampened after ''WesternAnimation/QuestForCamelot'' bombed and were reluctant to spend money on advertising. It ultimately saw a couple theatrical posters and two TotallyRadical trailers with thrash metal music and taglines about being "[[MisaimedMarketing the new face of heavy metal]]," all of which were released mere ''weeks'' before it's debut (unlike Disney films, which are usually advertised a year in advance). Brad Bird recalls going to a theater in LA on opening weekend and seeing that the film was playing in exactly one theater, the lobby card was a ''hand written note'' scotch-tapped to the times, and the only advertisement being a disheveled cardboard cutout placed just outside it's theater, where there was an audience of about a dozen. Warner Bros. made up for it by going all-out with the home video release once it did well critically.

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* InvisibleAdvertising: And how! how!
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Warner Bros.' ambitions to get into feature animation were dampened after ''WesternAnimation/QuestForCamelot'' bombed and were reluctant to spend money on advertising. It ultimately saw advertising, constantly pussyfooting around Brad Bird's perpetual request for a couple theatrical posters and two TotallyRadical trailers with thrash metal music and taglines about being "[[MisaimedMarketing the new face of heavy metal]]," all of which were released mere ''weeks'' before release date, even when production was nearing it's debut (unlike Disney films, deadline. It eventually got to the point that a crew member had to leak a workprint of the film to several journalists just to get word-of-mouth going. Warners eventually settled on a release date after several extremely positive test screenings, but only gave the film a few weeks to advertise as a result (compare to Disney's ''Disney/{{Tarzan}}'', which are usually was being advertised a year in advance). advance).
** What little advertising that eventually saw the light of day was either vague or [[TrailersAlwaysLie inaccurate]]. One of it's only two posters was in the style of a '50s BMove-style with the tagline "It came from outer space!" while the trailers played it up as a TotallyRadical movie about "The newest face of heavy metal," complete with cheesy thrash metal music.
Brad Bird recalls going remembers having a panic attack when he went to a theater multiplex in LA on opening weekend and seeing that the film was playing in exactly one theater, the saw no posters or even a lobby card was card, instead a descheveled cardboard cutout outside it's one theater and a ''hand written note'' scotch-tapped to the times, and the respectively. The screening itself only advertisement being a disheveled cardboard cutout placed just outside it's theater, where there was had an audience of about a dozen. dozen.
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Warner Bros. made up for it by going all-out with the home video release once it did well critically.
26th Jun '17 8:42:27 PM NWolfman
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* InvisibleAdvertising: And how! Warner Bros.' ambitions to get into feature animation were dampened after ''WesternAnimation/QuestForCamelot" bombed and were reluctant to spend money on advertising. It ultimately saw a couple theatrical posters and two TotallyRadical trailers with thrash metal music and taglines about being "[[MisaimedMarketing the new face of heavy metal]]," all of which were released mere ''weeks'' before it's debut (unlike Disney films, which are usually advertised a year in advance). Brad Bird recalls going to a theater in LA on opening weekend and seeing that the film was playing in exactly one theater, the lobby card was a ''hand written note'' scotch-tapped to the times, and the only advertisement being a disheveled cardboard cutout placed just outside it's theater, where there was an audience of about a dozen. Warner Bros. made up for it by going all-out with the home video release once it did well critically.

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* InvisibleAdvertising: And how! Warner Bros.' ambitions to get into feature animation were dampened after ''WesternAnimation/QuestForCamelot" ''WesternAnimation/QuestForCamelot'' bombed and were reluctant to spend money on advertising. It ultimately saw a couple theatrical posters and two TotallyRadical trailers with thrash metal music and taglines about being "[[MisaimedMarketing the new face of heavy metal]]," all of which were released mere ''weeks'' before it's debut (unlike Disney films, which are usually advertised a year in advance). Brad Bird recalls going to a theater in LA on opening weekend and seeing that the film was playing in exactly one theater, the lobby card was a ''hand written note'' scotch-tapped to the times, and the only advertisement being a disheveled cardboard cutout placed just outside it's theater, where there was an audience of about a dozen. Warner Bros. made up for it by going all-out with the home video release once it did well critically.
26th Jun '17 8:41:44 PM NWolfman
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* InvisibleAdvertising: The original theatrical release had only one poster and two trailers, one of which featured several out-of-context scenes scored to "Rock You Like A Hurricane" and gave no indication of what kind of movie this was. Warner Bros. made up for it by going all-out with the home video release once it did well critically.

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* InvisibleAdvertising: The original And how! Warner Bros.' ambitions to get into feature animation were dampened after ''WesternAnimation/QuestForCamelot" bombed and were reluctant to spend money on advertising. It ultimately saw a couple theatrical release had only one poster posters and two trailers, one TotallyRadical trailers with thrash metal music and taglines about being "[[MisaimedMarketing the new face of heavy metal]]," all of which featured several out-of-context scenes scored were released mere ''weeks'' before it's debut (unlike Disney films, which are usually advertised a year in advance). Brad Bird recalls going to "Rock You Like A Hurricane" a theater in LA on opening weekend and gave no indication seeing that the film was playing in exactly one theater, the lobby card was a ''hand written note'' scotch-tapped to the times, and the only advertisement being a disheveled cardboard cutout placed just outside it's theater, where there was an audience of what kind of movie this was.about a dozen. Warner Bros. made up for it by going all-out with the home video release once it did well critically.



* RealitySubtext: Brad Bird's sister, with whom he was very close, was shot and killed by her abusive husband in the late 80s. The film's anti-gun message was a personal belief of his.

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* RealitySubtext: After being hired to direct the film, Brad Bird's sister, Bird read the original Ted Hughes novel and was surprised to discover that Hughes had written to as a way to cope with whom the death of his wife. Bird connected with this, as he was very close, was shot himself had been trying to cope with his sister's murder at gunpoint for nearly a decade, and killed by her abusive husband in the late 80s. The film's decided to use that as a way to send a positive anti-gun message was a personal belief of his.message.


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* WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants: The film was made in the span of 2-and-a-half years, half the production time of the typical animated feature. Thankfully, Brad Bird's television background, as well as his sheer tenacity, helped the film get finished ahead of schedule. It was the first animated feature to crudely animate it's storyboards (using a primitive version of Adobe [=AfterEffects=]) to give a clearer idea of how shots would look in their final form, a practice used to this day.
24th Jun '17 4:05:35 PM NWolfman
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Sadly. ''The Iron Giant'' had a $70 million budget, but didn't make it to half that in theaters.

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* BoxOfficeBomb: Sadly. ''The Iron Giant'' had Even on a relatively small budget of $70 million budget, but million, it's original theatrical run didn't even make it to half that in theaters.of it back.



* InvisibleAdvertising: For the theatrical release; it got much better treatment on home video.

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* InvisibleAdvertising: For the The original theatrical release; release had only one poster and two trailers, one of which featured several out-of-context scenes scored to "Rock You Like A Hurricane" and gave no indication of what kind of movie this was. Warner Bros. made up for it got much better treatment on by going all-out with the home video.video release once it did well critically.
24th Jun '17 4:02:04 PM NWolfman
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* RealitySubtext: Brad Bird's sister, with whom he was very close, was shot and killed by her abusive husband in the late 80s. The film's anti-gun message was a personal belief of his.
24th Jun '17 3:08:12 PM NWolfman
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* WordOfDante: Christopher [=McDonald=] jokingly claimed that Kent's desperate attempts to gain respect from his government superiors by capturing the giant are all in the hope that he'll be able to eventually run for congress.
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