History Trivia / TheHuntForRedOctober

6th Apr '18 3:51:40 PM RoarkTenjouin
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* FollowTheLeader: Plot-wise, averted, since it's nothing like ''Film/TopGun''[[note]]the novel it's based on was released while ''Top Gun'' was being produced[[/note]], but production-wise, this trope is played straight, since the Navy hoped this film would do for submarines what ''Top Gun'' did for the Air Force.
23rd Dec '17 5:25:18 AM GottamsReckoning
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* FakeRussian: It's a Hollywood flick, so it's a given that many of the major Russian characters were played by non-Slavic actors. The most obvious is Creator/SeanConnery as Lithuanian-born Captian Ramius, who doesn't even try to alter his Scottish accent. Averted, though, with most of the Soviet extras since most had obviously Slavic features.

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* FakeRussian: It's a Hollywood flick, so it's a given that many of the major Russian characters were played by non-Slavic actors. Joss Ackland, Creator/SeanConnery, Creator/TimCurry (United Kingdom), Creator/SamNeill (New Zealand), Creator/StellanSkarsgard (Sweden), Tomas Arana (United States) and Ronald Guttman (Belgium) all play Soviets. The most obvious is Creator/SeanConnery as Lithuanian-born Captian Ramius, who doesn't even try to alter his Scottish accent. Averted, though, with most of the Soviet extras since most had obviously Slavic features.
28th Oct '17 3:33:14 AM bombadil211
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* DescendedCreator: Director Creator/JohnMcTiernan suggested that screenwriter Larry Ferguson play ''USS Dallas'''s COB[[note]]Chief of the Boat: a submarine's senior enlisted sailor[[/note]] after watching Ferguson play all the parts in the script during pre-production.

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* DescendedCreator: Director Creator/JohnMcTiernan suggested came up with the idea that screenwriter Larry Ferguson play ''USS Dallas'''s COB[[note]]Chief of the Boat: a submarine's senior enlisted sailor[[/note]] after watching Ferguson play all the parts in the script during pre-production.pre-production. Hilariously, Ferguson only found out about this after seeing his name on the call sheet and then took advantage of his position and rewrote the script so that he'd be present for nearly every scene set on the ''Dallas''.
28th Oct '17 3:30:21 AM bombadil211
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* DescendedCreator: Director Creator/JohnMcTiernan suggested that screenwriter Larry Ferguson play ''USS Dallas'''s COB[[note]]Chief of the Boat: a submarine's senior enlisted sailor[[/note]] after watching Ferguson play all the parts in the script during pre-production.
13th Oct '17 5:42:36 AM StarTropes
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* BackedByThePentagon: The scenes on the flight deck were shot on the actual ''Enterprise''. Scott Glenn (Mancuso) also spent a month aboard ''USS Salt Lake City'' where he was treated as though he was the commanding officer. According to director John [=McTiernan=] he came back completely different, very soft-spoken and calm, with a manner he described as being similar to a college president. The Navy was fully onboard for the movie because they were hoping ''The Hunt for Red October'' would do for the submarine service what ''Film/TopGun'' had done for Naval aviation. In a way it worked, the crew of the ''real'' [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Dallas_%28SSN-700%29 USS Dallas]] adopted the films tagline, "The Hunt is On" as the boat's unofficial motto.

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* BackedByThePentagon: The scenes on the flight deck were shot on the actual ''Enterprise''. Scott Glenn (Mancuso) also spent a month aboard ''USS Salt Lake City'' Houston'' where he was treated as though he was the commanding officer. According to director John [=McTiernan=] he came back completely different, very soft-spoken and calm, with a manner he described as being similar to a college president. The Navy was fully onboard for the movie because they were hoping ''The Hunt for Red October'' would do for the submarine service what ''Film/TopGun'' had done for Naval aviation. In a way it worked, the crew of the ''real'' [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Dallas_%28SSN-700%29 USS Dallas]] adopted the films tagline, "The Hunt is On" as the boat's unofficial motto.
30th Sep '17 4:37:16 PM ClintEastwood
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* TechnologyMarchesOn. Inverted. The crew of the Red October is shown to be using flat-screen and touchscreen displays (note the absence of valves and keyboards) that are more than 30-years more advanced than almost all of what was possible when the film was made, and some of which is barely possible today (2016).
30th Sep '17 4:35:10 PM ClintEastwood
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* UncreditedRole: Creator/JohnMilius did uncredited work on the script, writing a few speeches for Ramius and all of his Russian dialogue. He was asked to rewrite the whole film but was only required to do the Russian sequences.
30th Apr '17 11:56:36 AM Cindylover1969
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* RecycledSoundtrack: Music/BasilPoledouris' cue for the scene where Ramius and Borodin are talking about life ("Two Wives" on the soundtrack album) was dropped when the scene was changed during editing, and replaced with ''another'' Poledouris composition, "Payoff" from ''No Man's Land''[[note]]([[Film/NoMansLand not this one]], the 1987 movie starring Creator/CharlieSheen, produced by Creator/RonHoward and written by Creator/DickWolf)[[/note]].

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* RecycledSoundtrack: Music/BasilPoledouris' cue for the scene where Ramius and Borodin are talking about life ("Two Wives" on the soundtrack album) was dropped when the scene was changed during editing, and replaced with ''another'' Poledouris composition, "Payoff" from ''No Man's Land''[[note]]([[Film/NoMansLand not this one]], the 1987 movie starring Creator/CharlieSheen, executive produced by Creator/RonHoward and written by Creator/DickWolf)[[/note]].
30th Apr '17 11:54:40 AM Cindylover1969
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* RecycledSoundtrack: Music/BasilPoledouris' cue for the scene where Ramius and Borodin are talking about life ("Two Wives" on the soundtrack album) was dropped when the scene was changed during editing, and replaced with ''another'' Poledouris composition, "Payoff" from ''No Man's Land''[[note]]([[Film/NoMansLand not this one]], the 1987 movie starring Creator/CharlieSheen, produced by Creator/RonHoward and written by Creator/DickWolf)[[/note]].
11th Feb '17 12:28:57 PM Premonition45
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* ActorSharedBackground: Creator/SeanConnery and Creator/ScottGlenn both served in the navy before becoming actors. Connery served in the Royal Navy, Glenn served in the United States Marine Corps, which is part of the US Department of the Navy.



* BackedByThePentagon: The scenes on the flight deck were shot on the actual ''Enterprise''. Scott Glenn (Mancuso) also spent a month aboard ''USS Salt Lake City'' where he was treated as though he was the commanding officer. According to director John [=McTiernan=] he came back completely different, very soft-spoken and calm, with a manner he described as being similar to a college president. The Navy was fully onboard for the movie because they were hoping ''The Hunt for Red October'' would do for the submarine service what ''Film/TopGun'' had done for Naval aviation. In a way it worked, the crew of the ''real'' [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Dallas_%28SSN-700%29 USS Dallas]] adopted the films tagline, "The Hunt is On" as the boats unofficial motto.

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* BackedByThePentagon: The scenes on the flight deck were shot on the actual ''Enterprise''. Scott Glenn (Mancuso) also spent a month aboard ''USS Salt Lake City'' where he was treated as though he was the commanding officer. According to director John [=McTiernan=] he came back completely different, very soft-spoken and calm, with a manner he described as being similar to a college president. The Navy was fully onboard for the movie because they were hoping ''The Hunt for Red October'' would do for the submarine service what ''Film/TopGun'' had done for Naval aviation. In a way it worked, the crew of the ''real'' [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Dallas_%28SSN-700%29 USS Dallas]] adopted the films tagline, "The Hunt is On" as the boats boat's unofficial motto.



* CastTheExpert: Some of the extras playing the USS ''Dallas'' crew were actual submariners.



* TheOtherMarty: Klaus Maria Brandauer was originally cast as Ramius, but two weeks into filming he had to quit because of a serious injury (he broke both his legs in a car accident). He recommended SeanConnery, with whom he starred in ''Film/NeverSayNeverAgain'', to take over the role.

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* TheOtherMarty: Klaus Maria Brandauer was originally cast as Ramius, but two weeks into filming he had to quit because of a serious injury (he broke both his legs in a car accident). He recommended SeanConnery, Creator/SeanConnery, with whom he starred in ''Film/NeverSayNeverAgain'', to take over the role.



* PropRecycling: The teddy bear Jack Ryan gets his daughter at the end is the same teddy bear John [=McClane=] was bringing for his kids at the beginning of ''Film/DieHard'', also directed by JohnMcTiernan.
* StarMakingRole: For AlecBaldwin.

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* PropRecycling: The teddy bear Jack Ryan gets his daughter at the end is the same teddy bear John [=McClane=] was bringing for his kids at the beginning of ''Film/DieHard'', also directed by JohnMcTiernan.
Creator/JohnMcTiernan.
* StarMakingRole: For AlecBaldwin.Creator/AlecBaldwin.



** Creator/KevinCostner turned down the role of Jack Ryan in order to make ''Film/DancesWithWolves''. He would later co-star in ''Film/JackRyanShadowRecruit''. Creator/HarrisonFord had also turned down the role, because he felt the script focused more on Ramius than Ryan, [[TheOtherDarrin but he would take the role]] for the sequels ''Film/PatriotGames'' and ''Film/ClearAndPresentDanger''.
** Acclaimed Austrian actor Klaus Maria Brandauer was originally cast as Marko Ramius, and participated in the production process to the point of getting costumes fitted and attending several rehearsals. And then he was in a car accident and broke both of his legs. It was at Brandauer's suggestion that SeanConnery was cast to replace him. Had Brandauer been able to finish the film, it would have had a very, very different feel to it than the actual finished product.

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** Creator/KevinCostner turned down the role of Jack Ryan in order to make ''Film/DancesWithWolves''. He would later co-star in ''Film/JackRyanShadowRecruit''. Creator/HarrisonFord had also turned down the role, because he felt the script focused more on Ramius than Ryan, [[TheOtherDarrin but he would take the role]] for the sequels ''Film/PatriotGames'' and ''Film/ClearAndPresentDanger''.
** Acclaimed Austrian actor Klaus Maria Brandauer was originally cast as Marko Ramius, and participated in the production process to the point of getting costumes fitted and attending several rehearsals. And then he was in a car accident and broke both of his legs. It was at Brandauer's suggestion that SeanConnery Creator/SeanConnery was cast to replace him. Had Brandauer been able to finish the film, it would have had a very, very different feel to it than the actual finished product.
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