History Trivia / TheClash

12th Nov '17 5:36:13 AM ClintEastwood
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* ChartDisplacement: The band's only top 40 hits in the U.S. were "Train in Vain" and "Rock the Casbah", instead of "Should I Stay or Should I Go" (only #43) and "London Calling" (didn't chart).
29th Oct '17 5:37:15 PM ClintEastwood
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* CanonDiscontinuity: For years, ''Cut the Crap'' was completely written out of the band's history. ''Westway to the World'', an official and otherwise comprehensive documentary on the band from 2000, stops when Mick Jones left the band in 1983. Likewise, several biographies on the band either glance over the album entirely or give it a brief, begrudging mention, and for years, none of its songs appeared on the band's hits collections. While the album still has a rock-bottom reputation, a reprieve had been given to its well-regarded lead single "This is England" by the time the new millennium rolled around; It appears on the 2003 ''The Essential Clash'' compilation, the 2006 ''Singles Box'' set and the 2007 ''The Singles'' greatest hits album.

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* CanonDiscontinuity: For years, ''Cut the Crap'' was completely written out of the band's history. ''Westway to the World'', an official and otherwise comprehensive documentary on the band from 2000, stops when Mick Jones left the band in 1983. Likewise, several biographies on the band either glance over the album entirely or give it a brief, begrudging mention, and for years, none of its songs appeared on the band's hits collections. While the album still has a rock-bottom reputation, a reprieve had been given to its well-regarded lead single "This is England" by the time the new millennium rolled around; around. It appears on the 2003 ''The Essential Clash'' compilation, the 2006 ''Singles Box'' set and the 2007 ''The Singles'' greatest hits album.



* CutAndPasteTranslation / ExecutiveMeddling: Upon hearing their debut self-titled album, the suits at their American record label decided that some of the songs would inspire people to rebel, and decided to remove 5 songs and replace them with some of the band's British singles like "Complete Control" and "White Man in Hammersmith Palais". Some critics think this is better, but they are CompletelyMissingThePoint as you could easily make another album of all the singles and B-Sides from this period.

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* CutAndPasteTranslation / ExecutiveMeddling: CutAndPasteTranslation[=/=]ExecutiveMeddling: Upon hearing their debut self-titled album, the suits at their American record label decided that some of the songs would inspire people to rebel, and decided to remove 5 songs and replace them with some of the band's British singles like "Complete Control" and "White Man in Hammersmith Palais". Some critics think this is better, but they are CompletelyMissingThePoint as you could easily make another album of all the singles and B-Sides from this period.
5th Sep '17 11:34:30 PM thelivingtoad
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* CanonDiscontinuity: For years, ''Cut the Crap'' was completely written out of the band's history following is disastrous reception when it was released in 1985. ''Westway to the World'', an official and otherwise comprehensive documentary on the band from 2000, stops when Mick Jones left the band in 1983. Likewise, several biographies on the band either glance over the album entirely or give it a brief, begrudging mention, and for years, none of its songs appeared on the band's hits collections. While the album still has a rock-bottom reputation, a reprieve had been given to its well-regarded lead single "This is England" by the time the new millennium rolled around; It appears on the 2003 ''The Essential Clash'' compilation, the 2006 ''Singles Box'' set and the 2007 ''The Singles'' greatest hits album.

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* CanonDiscontinuity: For years, ''Cut the Crap'' was completely written out of the band's history following is disastrous reception when it was released in 1985.history. ''Westway to the World'', an official and otherwise comprehensive documentary on the band from 2000, stops when Mick Jones left the band in 1983. Likewise, several biographies on the band either glance over the album entirely or give it a brief, begrudging mention, and for years, none of its songs appeared on the band's hits collections. While the album still has a rock-bottom reputation, a reprieve had been given to its well-regarded lead single "This is England" by the time the new millennium rolled around; It appears on the 2003 ''The Essential Clash'' compilation, the 2006 ''Singles Box'' set and the 2007 ''The Singles'' greatest hits album.
5th Sep '17 11:32:58 PM thelivingtoad
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* CanonDiscontinuity: For years, ''Cut the Crap'' was completely written out of the band's history following is disastrous reception when it was released in 1985. ''Westway to the World'', an official and otherwise comprehensive documentary on the band from 2000, stops when Mick Jones left the band in 1983. Likewise, several biographies on the band either glance over the album entirely or give it a brief, begrudging mention, and for years, none of its songs appeared on the band's hits collections. While the album still has a rock-bottom reputation, a reprieve had been given for its well-regarded lead single "This is England" by the time the new millennium rolled around; It appears on the 2003 ''The Essential Clash'' compilation, the 2006 ''Singles Box'' set and the 2007 ''The Singles'' greatest hits album.

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* CanonDiscontinuity: For years, ''Cut the Crap'' was completely written out of the band's history following is disastrous reception when it was released in 1985. ''Westway to the World'', an official and otherwise comprehensive documentary on the band from 2000, stops when Mick Jones left the band in 1983. Likewise, several biographies on the band either glance over the album entirely or give it a brief, begrudging mention, and for years, none of its songs appeared on the band's hits collections. While the album still has a rock-bottom reputation, a reprieve had been given for to its well-regarded lead single "This is England" by the time the new millennium rolled around; It appears on the 2003 ''The Essential Clash'' compilation, the 2006 ''Singles Box'' set and the 2007 ''The Singles'' greatest hits album.
5th Sep '17 11:32:36 PM thelivingtoad
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* CanonDiscontinuity: For years, ''Cut the Crap'' was completely written out of the band's history following is disastrous reception when it was released in 1985. ''Westway to the World'', an official and otherwise comprehensive documentary on the band from 2000, stops when Mick Jones left the band in 1983. Likewise, several biographies on the band either glance over the album entirely or give it a brief, begrudging mention and for years, none of its songs appeared on the band's hits collections. While the album still has a rock-bottom reputation, a reprieve had been given for its well-regarded lead single "This is England" by the time the new millennium rolled around; It appears on the 2003 ''The Essential Clash'' compilation, the 2006 ''Singles Box'' set and the 2007 ''The Singles'' greatest hits album.

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* CanonDiscontinuity: For years, ''Cut the Crap'' was completely written out of the band's history following is disastrous reception when it was released in 1985. ''Westway to the World'', an official and otherwise comprehensive documentary on the band from 2000, stops when Mick Jones left the band in 1983. Likewise, several biographies on the band either glance over the album entirely or give it a brief, begrudging mention mention, and for years, none of its songs appeared on the band's hits collections. While the album still has a rock-bottom reputation, a reprieve had been given for its well-regarded lead single "This is England" by the time the new millennium rolled around; It appears on the 2003 ''The Essential Clash'' compilation, the 2006 ''Singles Box'' set and the 2007 ''The Singles'' greatest hits album.
5th Sep '17 11:32:17 PM thelivingtoad
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* CanonDiscontinuity: For years, ''Cut the Crap'' was completely written out of the band's history following is disastrous reception when it was released in 1985. ''Westway to the World'' an otherwise comprehensive documentary on the band, stops when Mick Jones left the band in 1983, several biographies either glance it over entirely or give it a brief, begrudging mention and none of its songs appeared on the band's hits collections. While the album still has a rock-bottom reputation, a reprieve had been given for its well-regarded lead single "This is England" by the time the new millennium rolled around; It appears on the 2003 ''The Essential Clash'' compilation, the 2006 ''Singles Box'' set and the 2007 ''The Singles'' greatest hits album.

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* CanonDiscontinuity: For years, ''Cut the Crap'' was completely written out of the band's history following is disastrous reception when it was released in 1985. ''Westway to the World'' World'', an official and otherwise comprehensive documentary on the band, band from 2000, stops when Mick Jones left the band in 1983, 1983. Likewise, several biographies on the band either glance it over the album entirely or give it a brief, begrudging mention and for years, none of its songs appeared on the band's hits collections. While the album still has a rock-bottom reputation, a reprieve had been given for its well-regarded lead single "This is England" by the time the new millennium rolled around; It appears on the 2003 ''The Essential Clash'' compilation, the 2006 ''Singles Box'' set and the 2007 ''The Singles'' greatest hits album.
5th Sep '17 11:31:08 PM thelivingtoad
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* CanonDiscontinuity: For years, ''Cut the Crap'' was completely written out of the band's history following is disastrous reception when it was released in 1985. ''Westway to the World'' an otherwise comprehensive documentary on the band, stops when Mick Jones left the band in 1983, several biographies either glance it over entirely or give it a brief, begrudging mention and none of its songs appeared on the band's hits collections. While the album still has a rock-bottom reputation, a reprieve had been given for its well-regarded lead single "This is England" by the time the new millennium rolled around; It appears on the 2003 ''The Essential Clash'' compilation, the 2006 ''Singles Box'' set and the 2007 ''The Singles'' greatest hits album.



** After Mick Jones left the band, he joined the band General Public (but left shortly after they recorded their first album) and then formed Big Audio Dynamite, one of the more notable early AlternativeRock artists.

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** After Mick Jones left the band, he joined the band General Public (but left shortly after they recorded their first album) and then formed Big Audio Dynamite, one of the more notable early AlternativeRock artists.bands.
23rd May '17 3:12:05 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* CreatorCouple: Mick Jones once had a relationship with Ellen Foley, who sang backing vocals on "Hitsville U.K." and their turbulent relationship inspired Jones to write the very popular "Should I Stay or Should I Go". Thanks to the relationship, all four members of The Clash (along with members of Music/IanDuryAndThe Blockheads) appeared on Foley's album The Spirit of St. Louis and Jones produced it, credited as "my boyfriend".



* HeAlsoDid: After Mick Jones left the band, he joined the band General Public (but left shortly after they recorded their first album) and then formed Big Audio Dynamite, one of the more notable early AlternativeRock artists.

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After Mick Jones left the band, he joined the band General Public (but left shortly after they recorded their first album) and then formed Big Audio Dynamite, one of the more notable early AlternativeRock artists.


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* NoHitWonder: They were famous for a time as the band to have released the most UK singles without ever hitting the singles Top Ten, until the [[BlackSheepHit uncharacteristic]] "Should I Stay Or Should I Go" hit number one after being [[RepurposedPopSong used in an advert]].


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* SequelFirst: Their first album wasn't released in the US because the record company over there thought it was too controversial. Their second album ''Give Em Enough Rope'' was their first released in the US, albeit with the cover text in a different font and the title of the last track changed. After the "I Fought The Law" from ''The Cost Of Living'' EP was a hit, the record company wanted to capitalise on its success so they put out a butchered version of their first album in the US including the track and several of their recent singles replacing some of the songs they had deemed controversial. This caused an odd situation where stuff recorded after their second album was included on a rerelease of their first.


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* TwoHitWonder: From a single standpoint, they've only managed to get two songs into the American Top 40, which is two more than most punk bands can hope for. Specifically, their two Top 40 hits are "Train in Vain" which peaked at #23 in 1980, and "Rock the Casbah" which hit #8 two years later. Both songs are classics (especially "Casbah"), [[ChartDisplacement but neither is among their two signatures]]. Those would be "London Calling" (which didn't chart) or "Should I Stay or Should I Go?" (which fell short at #45).
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece:
** "Spanish Bombs". At the time, Spain was still a relatively poor country, recovering from the reign of dictator Francisco Franco. Its tourist industry had only really begun a few years earlier, with cheap flights being an incentive. Over the 30+ years since the song was written, Spain is arguably the most popular non-UK holiday destination for Brits (also causing so many to retire there that there are predominantly British communities in places), and tourism has completely transformed its economy and culture. "Spanish Bombs" captures Spain at a time when there was a lot of uncertainty in the air and this had yet to be realised.
** "Ivan Meets G.I Joe" is very obviously about the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, and is therefore dated. But nowadays, it's best known as the only song Topper Headon sang vocals on.
12th Jan '17 3:02:12 PM thelivingtoad
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* AuthorExistenceFailure: In late 2002, The Clash were announced as an inductee for the 2003 class of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The members of the band were planning to perform at the ceremony, and there were rumbling that the reunion wouldn't be a one-off, and that they were planning to get back together for a tour or an album. Unfortunately, Strummer suddenly died a little over a month after the induction announcement and ended any possibility of a reunion.

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* AuthorExistenceFailure: In late 2002, The Clash were announced as an inductee for the 2003 class of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The members of the band were planning to perform at the ceremony, and there were rumbling rumblings that the reunion wouldn't be a one-off, and that they were planning to get back together for a tour or an album. Unfortunately, Strummer suddenly died a little over a month after the induction announcement and ended any possibility of a reunion.
12th Jan '17 3:01:57 PM thelivingtoad
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* AuthorExistenceFailure: In late 2002, The Clash were announced as an inductee for the 2003 class of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The members of the band were planning to perform at the ceremony, and there were rumbling that the reunion wouldn't be a one-off, and that they were planning to get back together for a tour or an album. Unfortunately, Strummer suddenly died a little over a month after the induction announcement and ended any possibility of a reunion.
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