History Trivia / TheBlackCauldron

5th Aug '16 2:11:37 PM jameygamer
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** The failure to get the film out in any reasonable amount of time helped bring down Ron Miller's regime at Disney, and its financial failure ensured that he would never work in Hollywood again.

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** The failure to get the film out in any reasonable amount of time helped bring down Ron Miller's regime at Disney, and its financial failure ensured that he would never work in Hollywood again.again; he founded the Silverado winery and moved into that business instead.
30th Jun '16 2:06:37 PM jameygamer
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** The cuts were made to keep it from getting the R rating because the PG-13 rating hadn't been invented yet. Imagine if the cuts weren't made.

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** The cuts were made to keep it from getting the R rating because the PG-13 rating hadn't been invented yet. Imagine if the cuts weren't made.made (some of the footage Katzenberg had cut actually made it to the film's trailer on early copies of the 1985 WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyClassics VHS of ''Disney/{{Pinocchio}}''; that tape would be the only way to see anything from this film until 1998).



* This movie is the reason that the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon exists. Prior to 1985 the Disney animated film lineup was more or less free-floating, with the 1940s package films sometimes being counted, the live action/animation hybrid films sometimes being counted, the documentaries with animated segments sometimes being counted, etc. This films release however was intended to be a landmark for Disney animation, and necessitated a label that was fitting for such an event; and so, shortly before ''Cauldron'''s release Disney finally set an official lineup for their animated movies in order to name this one their 25th feature.

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* This movie is the reason that the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon exists. Prior to 1985 the Disney animated film lineup was more or less free-floating, with the 1940s package films sometimes being counted, the live action/animation hybrid films sometimes being counted, the documentaries with animated segments sometimes being counted, etc. This films release however was intended to be a landmark for Disney animation, and necessitated a label that was fitting for such an event; and so, shortly before ''Cauldron'''s release Disney finally set an official lineup for their animated movies in order to name this one their 25th feature.feature (this led to ''Disney/{{Dumbo}}'' being retroactively added to the canon as entry #4 and got it repackaged under the Walt Disney Classics brand on home video, alongside ''Disney/AliceInWonderland'' the following year.).
20th Jun '16 2:08:43 PM NWolfman
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** TimBurton drew up some concept art for the film, not a single piece of which was used.[[note]]He would later claim that his drawings were never going to be used anyway. The studio just wanted to give him something to do until his contract ran out. He [[WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas eventually]] [[Film/AliceInWonderland came]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Frankenweenie}} back]].[[/note]]

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** TimBurton drew up some concept art for the film, not a single piece of which was used.[[note]]He would later claim that his drawings were never going to be used anyway. The studio just wanted to give him something to do until his contract ran out. He [[WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas eventually]] [[Film/AliceInWonderland [[Film/AliceInWonderland2010 came]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Frankenweenie}} back]].[[/note]]
20th Jun '16 2:08:18 PM NWolfman
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** TimBurton drew up some concept art for the film, not a single piece of which was used.[[note]]He would later claim that his drawings were never going to be used anyway. The studio just wanted to give him something to do while they debated whether or not to fire him, and he left Disney anyway. He wouldn't deal with them again until ''WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas''.[[/note]]

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** TimBurton drew up some concept art for the film, not a single piece of which was used.[[note]]He would later claim that his drawings were never going to be used anyway. The studio just wanted to give him something to do while they debated whether or not to fire him, and he left Disney anyway. He wouldn't deal with them again until ''WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas''.his contract ran out. He [[WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas eventually]] [[Film/AliceInWonderland came]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Frankenweenie}} back]].[[/note]]
12th Jun '16 11:02:55 AM dsneybuf
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** Because this movie was both atypical and unpopular, it wasn't released to video in North America until 1998 as one of the last installments in the WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyMasterpieceCollection. Even later, ''The Black Cauldron'' would become the Canon's last traditionally-animated movie, aside from some 1940s package films, to receive a Blu-ray release. %%DO NOT list a Blu-Ray release date, even a rumored one, unless Disney actually confirms it!
** Allegations about what Disney considered doing with the film in the 13 years of its reported shelving have circulated on the internet, but with very little evidence. One rumor (which as of May 2016, has not been proven) claims it was because of ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' that Creator/WaltDisneyHomeVideo didn't release it on home media sooner. Disney was all set to release it when the latter film became a smash hit and they were pressured to get it on video ASAP. Another allegation was that Disney planned to reissue it in theaters several years later under a new title, ''Taran and the Magic Cauldron''. The only evidence for this are posters under multiple languages, as well as children's tie-ins (picture books and puzzles), all bearing this new title.

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** Because this movie was both atypical and unpopular, Creator/WaltDisneyHomeVideo didn't make it wasn't released available to video own in North America until 1998 1998, as one of the last installments in the WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyMasterpieceCollection. Even later, ''The Black Cauldron'' would become the Canon's last traditionally-animated movie, aside from some 1940s package films, to receive a Blu-ray release. %%DO NOT list a Blu-Ray release date, even a rumored one, unless Disney actually confirms it!
** Allegations about what Disney considered doing with the film in the 13 years of its reported shelving have circulated on the internet, but with very little evidence. One rumor (which as of May 2016, has not been proven) claims it was because of ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' that Creator/WaltDisneyHomeVideo it didn't release it on come to home media sooner. Disney was all set to release it when the latter film became a smash hit and they were pressured to get it on video ASAP. Another allegation was that Disney planned to reissue it in theaters several years later under a new title, ''Taran and the Magic Cauldron''. The only evidence for this are posters under multiple languages, as well as children's tie-ins (picture books and puzzles), all bearing this new title.
30th May '16 2:19:30 PM ooh
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** Allegations about what Disney considered doing with the film in the 13 years of its reported shelving have circulated on the internet, but with very little evidence. One rumor (which as of May 2016, has not been proven) claims it was because of ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' that Creator/WaltDisneyHomeVideo didn't release it on home media sooner. Disney was all set to release it when the latter film became a smash hit and they were pressured to get it on video ASAP. Another allegation was that Disney planned to reissue it in American theaters under a new title, ''Taran and the Magic Cauldron''. Because this movie was both atypical and unpopular, it wasn't released to video in North America until 1998 as one of the last installments in the WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyMasterpieceCollection. Even later, ''The Black Cauldron'' would become the Canon's last traditionally-animated movie, aside from some 1940s package films, to receive a Blu-ray release. %%DO NOT list a Blu-Ray release date, even a rumored one, unless Disney actually confirms it!

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** Because this movie was both atypical and unpopular, it wasn't released to video in North America until 1998 as one of the last installments in the WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyMasterpieceCollection. Even later, ''The Black Cauldron'' would become the Canon's last traditionally-animated movie, aside from some 1940s package films, to receive a Blu-ray release. %%DO NOT list a Blu-Ray release date, even a rumored one, unless Disney actually confirms it!
** Allegations about what Disney considered doing with the film in the 13 years of its reported shelving have circulated on the internet, but with very little evidence. One rumor (which as of May 2016, has not been proven) claims it was because of ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' that Creator/WaltDisneyHomeVideo didn't release it on home media sooner. Disney was all set to release it when the latter film became a smash hit and they were pressured to get it on video ASAP. Another allegation was that Disney planned to reissue it in American theaters several years later under a new title, ''Taran and the Magic Cauldron''. Because The only evidence for this movie was both atypical are posters under multiple languages, as well as children's tie-ins (picture books and unpopular, it wasn't released to video in North America until 1998 as one of the last installments in the WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyMasterpieceCollection. Even later, ''The Black Cauldron'' would become the Canon's last traditionally-animated movie, aside from some 1940s package films, to receive a Blu-ray release. %%DO NOT list a Blu-Ray release date, even a rumored one, unless Disney actually confirms it!puzzles), all bearing this new title.
30th May '16 2:02:41 PM ooh
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** It was because of ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' that Creator/WaltDisneyHomeVideo didn't release it on home media sooner -- according to the [=IMDb=], Disney was all set to release it when the latter film became a smash hit and they were pressured to get it on video ASAP. Because this movie was both atypical and unpopular, it wasn't released to video in North America until 1998 as one of the last installments in the WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyMasterpieceCollection. Even later, ''The Black Cauldron'' would become the Canon's last traditionally-animated movie, aside from some 1940s package films, to receive a Blu-ray release. %%DO NOT list a Blu-Ray release date, even a rumored one, unless Disney actually confirms it!

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** It Allegations about what Disney considered doing with the film in the 13 years of its reported shelving have circulated on the internet, but with very little evidence. One rumor (which as of May 2016, has not been proven) claims it was because of ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' that Creator/WaltDisneyHomeVideo didn't release it on home media sooner -- according to the [=IMDb=], sooner. Disney was all set to release it when the latter film became a smash hit and they were pressured to get it on video ASAP. Another allegation was that Disney planned to reissue it in American theaters under a new title, ''Taran and the Magic Cauldron''. Because this movie was both atypical and unpopular, it wasn't released to video in North America until 1998 as one of the last installments in the WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyMasterpieceCollection. Even later, ''The Black Cauldron'' would become the Canon's last traditionally-animated movie, aside from some 1940s package films, to receive a Blu-ray release. %%DO NOT list a Blu-Ray release date, even a rumored one, unless Disney actually confirms it!
24th May '16 4:01:34 PM jameygamer
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** It was because of ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' that Creator/WaltDisneyHomeVideo didn't release it on home media sooner -- according to the [=IMDb=], Disney was all set to release it when the latter film became a smash hit and they were pressured to get it on video ASAP. Because this movie was both atypical and unpopular, it wasn't released to video in North America until 1998 as one of the last installments in the WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyMasterpieceCollection. Even later, ''The Black Cauldron'' would become the Canon's last traditionally-animated movie, aside from some 1940s package films, to receive a Blu-Ray release. %%DO NOT list a Blu-Ray release date, even a rumored one, unless Disney actually confirms it!

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** It was because of ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' that Creator/WaltDisneyHomeVideo didn't release it on home media sooner -- according to the [=IMDb=], Disney was all set to release it when the latter film became a smash hit and they were pressured to get it on video ASAP. Because this movie was both atypical and unpopular, it wasn't released to video in North America until 1998 as one of the last installments in the WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyMasterpieceCollection. Even later, ''The Black Cauldron'' would become the Canon's last traditionally-animated movie, aside from some 1940s package films, to receive a Blu-Ray Blu-ray release. %%DO NOT list a Blu-Ray release date, even a rumored one, unless Disney actually confirms it!
23rd May '16 12:43:46 PM dsneybuf
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** It was because of ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' that Creator/WaltDisneyHomeVideo didn't release it on home media sooner -- according to the [=IMDb=], Disney was all set to release it when the latter film became a smash hit and they were pressured to get it on video ASAP. Because this movie was both atypical and unpopular, it wasn't released to video in North America until 1998 as one of the last installments in the ''WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyMasterpieceCollection''. Even later, ''The Black Cauldron'' would become the Canon's last traditionally-animated movie, aside from some 1940s package films, to receive a Blu-Ray release. %%DO NOT list a Blu-Ray release date, even a rumored one, unless Disney actually confirms it!

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** It was because of ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' that Creator/WaltDisneyHomeVideo didn't release it on home media sooner -- according to the [=IMDb=], Disney was all set to release it when the latter film became a smash hit and they were pressured to get it on video ASAP. Because this movie was both atypical and unpopular, it wasn't released to video in North America until 1998 as one of the last installments in the ''WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyMasterpieceCollection''.WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyMasterpieceCollection. Even later, ''The Black Cauldron'' would become the Canon's last traditionally-animated movie, aside from some 1940s package films, to receive a Blu-Ray release. %%DO NOT list a Blu-Ray release date, even a rumored one, unless Disney actually confirms it!
22nd May '16 10:16:55 PM TheJayman49
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** It was because of ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' that Creator/WaltDisneyHomeVideo didn't release it on home media sooner -- according to the [=IMDb=], Disney was all set to release it when the latter film became a smash hit and they were pressured to get it on video ASAP. Because this movie was both atypical and unpopular, it wasn't released to video in North America until 1998 as one of the last installments in the ''WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyMasterpieceCollection''. Even later, ''The Black Cauldron'' would become the Canon's last traditionally-animated movie, aside from some 1940s package films, to receive a Blu-Ray release.
%%DO NOT list a Blu-Ray release date, even a rumored one, unless Disney actually confirms it!
** Overlaps with NoExportForYou: ''The Black Cauldron'' has never been released or dubbed in Hungary, Turkey, Israel, or Thailand (though that may also be for content reasons, as those countries do treat animated pieces like children's fare).

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** It was because of ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' that Creator/WaltDisneyHomeVideo didn't release it on home media sooner -- according to the [=IMDb=], Disney was all set to release it when the latter film became a smash hit and they were pressured to get it on video ASAP. Because this movie was both atypical and unpopular, it wasn't released to video in North America until 1998 as one of the last installments in the ''WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyMasterpieceCollection''. Even later, ''The Black Cauldron'' would become the Canon's last traditionally-animated movie, aside from some 1940s package films, to receive a Blu-Ray release.
release. %%DO NOT list a Blu-Ray release date, even a rumored one, unless Disney actually confirms it!
** *** Overlaps with NoExportForYou: ''The Black Cauldron'' has never been released or dubbed in Hungary, Turkey, Israel, or Thailand (though that may also be for content reasons, as those countries do treat animated pieces like children's fare).
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