History Trivia / SuperDimensionFortressMacross

17th Jun '16 3:46:23 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* NoExportForYou: Despite the infamous legal issues suffered by the franchise as a whole, the original series actually averted this by received unedited English releases by Creator/StreamlinePictures, Creator/AnimEigo, Creator/ADVFilms (with an uncut dub), Harmony Gold themselves (partnering with A&E/Lionsgate), and in Australia by Creator/MadmanEntertainment. It still hasn't seen a UK release, though.

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* NoExportForYou: Despite the infamous legal issues suffered by the franchise as a whole, the original series actually averted this by this, as it received unedited English releases by Creator/StreamlinePictures, Creator/AnimEigo, Creator/ADVFilms (with an uncut dub), Harmony Gold themselves (partnering with A&E/Lionsgate), and in Australia by Creator/MadmanEntertainment. It still hasn't seen a UK release, though.
17th Jun '16 3:45:53 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' and its spinoffs. The key to defeating the unstoppable millions-strong fleet of [[CloningBlues clone troop alien warriors]] is the music of a [[IdolSinger civilian pop singer]]...who lives on the eponymous fortress in a city hastily reconstructed inside a cargo hold after a teleportation accident.
** And then, in ''Anime/{{Macross 7}}'', the universe is saved from [[OurVampiresAreDifferent all-powerful empathic vampires]] by a [[ThePowerOfRock rock band]]. Who fly custom made TransformingMecha, controlled by ''guitars''.



** An artesanal example, in episode 25, we have a [[http://eyeforthings.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/ep25_macross_cake.png wedding cake shaped like the SDF-1 Macross]], Bandai Manager Jerry Chu [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2010-10-18/sdf-1-macross-cake-featured-at-sega-manager-wedding was presented with a cake in the same shape]] at his real-world wedding. The wedding also happened to be held on Lynn Minmay's birthday.
** Recently, [[http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/sociedad/2015/prototipo-avion-desarrollado-oaxaca-1096028.html a Mexican aerospace company designed a plane]] who looks almost the same like [[http://www.mahq.net/mecha/macross/sdfmacross/fanracer.htm Hikaru Ichijou's Fan Racer]] from the first episodes.

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** An artesanal example, artisanal example; in episode 25, we have a [[http://eyeforthings.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/ep25_macross_cake.png wedding cake shaped like the SDF-1 Macross]], Macross]]. Bandai Manager Jerry Chu [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2010-10-18/sdf-1-macross-cake-featured-at-sega-manager-wedding was presented with a cake in the same shape]] at his real-world wedding. The wedding also happened to be held on Lynn Minmay's birthday.
** Recently, [[http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/sociedad/2015/prototipo-avion-desarrollado-oaxaca-1096028.html a A Mexican aerospace company designed a plane]] who which looks almost the same like [[http://www.mahq.net/mecha/macross/sdfmacross/fanracer.htm Hikaru Ichijou's Fan Racer]] from the first episodes.



* NoExportForYou: A large assortment of absolutely hideous legal snarls between Harmony Gold, Creator/StudioNue, Creator/{{Satelight}}, Creator/TatsunokoProduction, and Big West means that virtually nothing of the ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' series that wasn't incorporated into the original ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' adaptation has seen the light of day outside of Japan[[note]]This also affects fellow sister series ''[[Anime/SuperDimensionCavalrySouthernCross Southern Cross]]''[[/note]]. ''Anime/MacrossPlus'' apparently got released only due to absolutely ''titanic'' pressure from fans, critics, and other distributors for the parties involved to not completely sit on triple-A-quality material needlessly; the same ''may'' happen to ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'' (especially with the [=DVDs=] and soundtracks of that show pushing sales numbers not seen in at least a decade) but so far no plans for export have been announced (and as time grinds on, it begins to look less and less likely). ''Anime/{{Macross7}}'', ''Anime/MacrossZero'' and various video-game projects and the like stalled out completely and will almost certainly never see release overseas.
** It's gotten so bad that some people with dogs in the fight have said that it may be that ''nobody'' knows who has international rights for some of the ''Macross'' property, in particular "Do You Remember Love?"
*** Robert Woodhead, Creator/AnimEigo CEO, once said he does not expect to ever see a legal US release of ''Do You Remember Love'' because of the titanic, multi-side battle (yep, it's not just Harmony Gold who's in the way, but apparently Shogakukan, Toho and a few others who have some sort of interest in the film).
*** By this point, actually, the rights are pretty much settled. It's just Harmony Gold now threatening to sue the first person to try anything. They'd lose the suit because they actually own absolutely nothing (Japanese courts determined the seller had no right to sell), but until some entity with deep pockets takes that challenge, nothing will be done.
** As noted above, it's not specifically a ''Macross'' problem, it's an industry-wide phenomenon. ''Macross'' just takes the cake for being ensnarled not only inside Japan, but ''outside'' of it too.
*** This legal snarl has caused some severe issues with the ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'' franchise. FASA had bought (or they believed they had bought) rights to the designs in good faith, and used the designs without molestation for 10 years[[note]]In case you're wondering, the Valkyrie in its various variants became the Phoenix Hawk, Stinger, Wasp, Crusader and Valkyrie 'Mechs, the Glaug became the Marauder, and the Destroids became the Warhammer, Archer, Rifleman and Longbow. The Regult, while providing the basis for the Ostscout, Ostroc and Ostsol -- though those three were so radically changed in the translation from Macross to [=''BattleTech''=] that they are officially considered by Catalyst to be original art and safe to use [[/note]]. However, FASA and Creator/PlaymatesToys got into a legal battle when Playmates created a toy for their ''WesternAnimation/ExoSquad'' line that closely resembled the ''[=MadCat=]'' 'Mech from ''[=BattleTech=]'' (at the time, FASA was finalizing both toy and TV deals for their game). FASA sued. Harmony Gold had sublicensed ''Robotech'' to Playmates as a tie-in to ''WesternAnimation/ExoSquad'', and noticed that FASA was using the ''Macross'' designs and counter-sued. Nobody quite knows what the actual settlement in the cases were, but [[WordOfGod official word from Catalyst Game Labs, FASA's successor company]] is that the discontinuation of the ''Macross'', ''LightNovel/CrusherJoe'' and ''Anime/FangOfTheSunDougram'' (the latter two which were not owned in any way by HG) designs was an internal decision by FASA to bar all artwork not created in-house to avoid any potential legal hassles, and not a legal mandate from a court. This policy, funnily enough, also forced FASA to stop using designs made bespoke for them by ''Studio Nue'' (the original studio behind ''Macross'') to replace the offending designs for releases of ''[=BattleTech=]'' in Japan.
*** On a side note, Tommy Yune, representative for Harmony Gold, has stated that they're willing to license ''Anime/MacrossZero'' and sublicense it to Creator/ADVFilms, but Big West took the license off the market.
*** On top of all that, you've got the VF-1[=/=][[Franchise/TransformersGeneration1 Jetfire]] issue. [=TakaraTomy=] still fears about the figure and its license[[note]]something that's been going on since 1985[[/note]]. Hence why there's no reissue of the character.
*** It still received an unedited US release though by StreamlinePictures, AnimEigo, Creator/ADVFilms (with an uncut dub), Harmony Gold themselves (partnering with A&E/Lionsgate), and in Australia by Madman, but the original series still has yet to see a UK release.
* TheOtherDarrin: Due to the death of Hikaru Ichijou's original voice actor, Arihiro Hase, in 1996, in all subsequent appearances, he is voiced by Creator/KenjiNojima.

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* NoExportForYou: A large assortment of absolutely hideous Despite the infamous legal snarls between Harmony Gold, Creator/StudioNue, Creator/{{Satelight}}, Creator/TatsunokoProduction, and Big West means that virtually nothing of issues suffered by the ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' series that wasn't incorporated into franchise as a whole, the original ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' adaptation has seen the light of day outside of Japan[[note]]This also affects fellow sister series ''[[Anime/SuperDimensionCavalrySouthernCross Southern Cross]]''[[/note]]. ''Anime/MacrossPlus'' apparently got released only due to absolutely ''titanic'' pressure from fans, critics, and other distributors for the parties involved to not completely sit on triple-A-quality material needlessly; the same ''may'' happen to ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'' (especially with the [=DVDs=] and soundtracks of that show pushing sales numbers not seen in at least a decade) but so far no plans for export have been announced (and as time grinds on, it begins to look less and less likely). ''Anime/{{Macross7}}'', ''Anime/MacrossZero'' and various video-game projects and the like stalled out completely and will almost certainly never see release overseas.
** It's gotten so bad that some people with dogs in the fight have said that it may be that ''nobody'' knows who has international rights for some of the ''Macross'' property, in particular "Do You Remember Love?"
*** Robert Woodhead, Creator/AnimEigo CEO, once said he does not expect to ever see a legal US release of ''Do You Remember Love'' because of the titanic, multi-side battle (yep, it's not just
actually averted this by received unedited English releases by Creator/StreamlinePictures, Creator/AnimEigo, Creator/ADVFilms (with an uncut dub), Harmony Gold who's in the way, but apparently Shogakukan, Toho and a few others who have some sort of interest in the film).
*** By this point, actually, the rights are pretty much settled. It's just Harmony Gold now threatening to sue the first person to try anything. They'd lose the suit because they actually own absolutely nothing (Japanese courts determined the seller had no right to sell), but until some entity
themselves (partnering with deep pockets takes that challenge, nothing will be done.
** As noted above, it's not specifically a ''Macross'' problem, it's an industry-wide phenomenon. ''Macross'' just takes the cake for being ensnarled not only inside Japan, but ''outside'' of it too.
*** This legal snarl has caused some severe issues with the ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'' franchise. FASA had bought (or they believed they had bought) rights to the designs in good faith,
A&E/Lionsgate), and used the designs without molestation for 10 years[[note]]In case you're wondering, the Valkyrie in its various variants became the Phoenix Hawk, Stinger, Wasp, Crusader and Valkyrie 'Mechs, the Glaug became the Marauder, and the Destroids became the Warhammer, Archer, Rifleman and Longbow. The Regult, while providing the basis for the Ostscout, Ostroc and Ostsol -- though those three were so radically changed in the translation from Macross to [=''BattleTech''=] that they are officially considered Australia by Catalyst to be original art and safe to use [[/note]]. However, FASA and Creator/PlaymatesToys got into Creator/MadmanEntertainment. It still hasn't seen a legal battle when Playmates created a toy for their ''WesternAnimation/ExoSquad'' line that closely resembled the ''[=MadCat=]'' 'Mech from ''[=BattleTech=]'' (at the time, FASA was finalizing both toy and TV deals for their game). FASA sued. Harmony Gold had sublicensed ''Robotech'' to Playmates as a tie-in to ''WesternAnimation/ExoSquad'', and noticed that FASA was using the ''Macross'' designs and counter-sued. Nobody quite knows what the actual settlement in the cases were, but [[WordOfGod official word from Catalyst Game Labs, FASA's successor company]] is that the discontinuation of the ''Macross'', ''LightNovel/CrusherJoe'' and ''Anime/FangOfTheSunDougram'' (the latter two which were not owned in any way by HG) designs was an internal decision by FASA to bar all artwork not created in-house to avoid any potential legal hassles, and not a legal mandate from a court. This policy, funnily enough, also forced FASA to stop using designs made bespoke for them by ''Studio Nue'' (the original studio behind ''Macross'') to replace the offending designs for releases of ''[=BattleTech=]'' in Japan.UK release, though.
*** On a side note, Tommy Yune, representative for Harmony Gold, has stated that they're willing to license ''Anime/MacrossZero'' and sublicense it to Creator/ADVFilms, but Big West took the license off the market.
*** On top of all that, you've got the VF-1[=/=][[Franchise/TransformersGeneration1 Jetfire]] issue. [=TakaraTomy=] still fears about the figure and its license[[note]]something that's been going on since 1985[[/note]]. Hence why there's no reissue of the character.
*** It still received an unedited US release though by StreamlinePictures, AnimEigo, Creator/ADVFilms (with an uncut dub), Harmony Gold themselves (partnering with A&E/Lionsgate), and in Australia by Madman, but the original series still has yet to see a UK release.
* TheOtherDarrin: TheOtherDarrin:
**
Due to the death of Hikaru Ichijou's original voice actor, actor Arihiro Hase, Hase in 1996, in all subsequent appearances, appearances he is voiced by Creator/KenjiNojima.
2nd Jun '16 12:34:12 PM DarkHunter
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** An artesanal example, in episode 25, we have a [[http://eyeforthings.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/ep25_macross_cake.png wedding cake in SDF-1 Macross format]], in the birthday in same day of Bandai Manager Jerry Chu and Mari Iijima voice actor from the Minmay [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2010-10-18/sdf-1-macross-cake-featured-at-sega-manager-wedding they were presented with a cake in the same format]].

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** An artesanal example, in episode 25, we have a [[http://eyeforthings.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/ep25_macross_cake.png wedding cake in shaped like the SDF-1 Macross format]], in the birthday in same day of Macross]], Bandai Manager Jerry Chu and Mari Iijima voice actor from the Minmay [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2010-10-18/sdf-1-macross-cake-featured-at-sega-manager-wedding they were was presented with a cake in the same format]].shape]] at his real-world wedding. The wedding also happened to be held on Lynn Minmay's birthday.
23rd Jan '16 1:31:26 PM StFan
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*** It still received an unedited US release though by StreamlinePictures, AnimEigo, ADVFilms (with an uncut dub), Harmony Gold themselves (partnering with A&E/Lionsgate), and in Australia by Madman, but the original series still has yet to see a UK release.

to:

*** It still received an unedited US release though by StreamlinePictures, AnimEigo, ADVFilms Creator/ADVFilms (with an uncut dub), Harmony Gold themselves (partnering with A&E/Lionsgate), and in Australia by Madman, but the original series still has yet to see a UK release.
9th Oct '15 12:12:02 PM VenomLancerHae
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* {{Defictionalization}}: An artesanal example, in episode 25, we have a [[http://eyeforthings.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/ep25_macross_cake.png wedding cake in SDF-1 Macross format]], in the birthday in same day of Bandai Manager Jerry Chu and Mari Iijima voice actor from the Minmay [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2010-10-18/sdf-1-macross-cake-featured-at-sega-manager-wedding they were presented with a cake in the same format]].

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* {{Defictionalization}}: {{Defictionalization}}:
**
An artesanal example, in episode 25, we have a [[http://eyeforthings.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/ep25_macross_cake.png wedding cake in SDF-1 Macross format]], in the birthday in same day of Bandai Manager Jerry Chu and Mari Iijima voice actor from the Minmay [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2010-10-18/sdf-1-macross-cake-featured-at-sega-manager-wedding they were presented with a cake in the same format]].



* NamesToKnowInAnime: ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' creator[=/=]Creator/{{Gainax}} co-founder Creator/HideakiAnno got his start on this series. Creator/ShojiKawamori provided the mechanical designs for the series (and would go on to direct the sequels).
8th Jul '15 2:15:27 PM ShinyTsukkomi
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** And then, in ''{{Macross 7}}'', the universe is saved from [[OurVampiresAreDifferent all-powerful empathic vampires]] by a [[ThePowerOfRock rock band]]. Who fly custom made TransformingMecha, controlled by ''guitars''.

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** And then, in ''{{Macross ''Anime/{{Macross 7}}'', the universe is saved from [[OurVampiresAreDifferent all-powerful empathic vampires]] by a [[ThePowerOfRock rock band]]. Who fly custom made TransformingMecha, controlled by ''guitars''.



* NoExportForYou: A large assortment of absolutely hideous legal snarls between Harmony Gold, Creator/StudioNue, Creator/{{Satelight}}, Creator/TatsunokoProduction, and Big West means that virtually nothing of the ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' series that wasn't incorporated into the original ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' adaptation has seen the light of day outside of Japan[[note]]This also affects fellow sister series ''[[Anime/SuperDimensionCavalrySouthernCross Southern Cross]]''[[/note]]. ''MacrossPlus'' apparently got released only due to absolutely ''titanic'' pressure from fans, critics, and other distributors for the parties involved to not completely sit on triple-A-quality material needlessly; the same ''may'' happen to ''MacrossFrontier'' (especially with the [=DVDs=] and soundtracks of that show pushing sales numbers not seen in at least a decade) but so far no plans for export have been announced (and as time grinds on, it begins to look less and less likely). ''{{Macross7}}'', ''MacrossZero'' and various video-game projects and the like stalled out completely and will almost certainly never see release overseas.

to:

* NoExportForYou: A large assortment of absolutely hideous legal snarls between Harmony Gold, Creator/StudioNue, Creator/{{Satelight}}, Creator/TatsunokoProduction, and Big West means that virtually nothing of the ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' series that wasn't incorporated into the original ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' adaptation has seen the light of day outside of Japan[[note]]This also affects fellow sister series ''[[Anime/SuperDimensionCavalrySouthernCross Southern Cross]]''[[/note]]. ''MacrossPlus'' ''Anime/MacrossPlus'' apparently got released only due to absolutely ''titanic'' pressure from fans, critics, and other distributors for the parties involved to not completely sit on triple-A-quality material needlessly; the same ''may'' happen to ''MacrossFrontier'' ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'' (especially with the [=DVDs=] and soundtracks of that show pushing sales numbers not seen in at least a decade) but so far no plans for export have been announced (and as time grinds on, it begins to look less and less likely). ''{{Macross7}}'', ''MacrossZero'' ''Anime/{{Macross7}}'', ''Anime/MacrossZero'' and various video-game projects and the like stalled out completely and will almost certainly never see release overseas.



*** On a side note, Tommy Yune, representative for Harmony Gold, has stated that they're willing to license ''MacrossZero'' and sublicense it to Creator/ADVFilms, but Big West took the license off the market.

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*** On a side note, Tommy Yune, representative for Harmony Gold, has stated that they're willing to license ''MacrossZero'' ''Anime/MacrossZero'' and sublicense it to Creator/ADVFilms, but Big West took the license off the market.
17th Jun '15 9:41:18 PM PurpleWarrior13
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*** It still received an unedited US release though by StreamlinePictures, AnimEigo, ADVFilms (with an uncut dub), Harmony Gold themselves (partnering with A&E/Lionsgate), and in Australia by Madman, but the original series still has yet to see a UK release.
28th Apr '15 8:21:52 PM luisedgarf
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** Recently, [[http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/sociedad/2015/prototipo-avion-desarrollado-oaxaca-1096028.html a Mexican aerospace company designed a plane]] who looks almost the same like [[http://www.mahq.net/mecha/macross/sdfmacross/fanracer.htm Hikaru Ichijou's Fan Racer]] from the first episodes.
7th Mar '15 9:15:38 PM philipnova798
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* NoExportForYou: A large assortment of absolutely hideous legal snarls between Harmony Gold, Creator/StudioNue, Creator/{{Satelight}}, Creator/TatsunokoProduction, and Big West means that virtually nothing of the ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' series that wasn't incorporated into the original ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' adaptation has seen the light of day outside of Japan[[note]]This also affects fellow sister series ''[[Anime/SuperDimensionCavalrySouthernCross Souther Cross]]''[[/note]]. ''MacrossPlus'' apparently got released only due to absolutely ''titanic'' pressure from fans, critics, and other distributors for the parties involved to not completely sit on triple-A-quality material needlessly; the same ''may'' happen to ''MacrossFrontier'' (especially with the [=DVDs=] and soundtracks of that show pushing sales numbers not seen in at least a decade) but so far no plans for export have been announced (and as time grinds on, it begins to look less and less likely). ''{{Macross7}}'', ''MacrossZero'' and various video-game projects and the like stalled out completely and will almost certainly never see release overseas.

to:

* NoExportForYou: A large assortment of absolutely hideous legal snarls between Harmony Gold, Creator/StudioNue, Creator/{{Satelight}}, Creator/TatsunokoProduction, and Big West means that virtually nothing of the ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' series that wasn't incorporated into the original ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' adaptation has seen the light of day outside of Japan[[note]]This also affects fellow sister series ''[[Anime/SuperDimensionCavalrySouthernCross Souther Southern Cross]]''[[/note]]. ''MacrossPlus'' apparently got released only due to absolutely ''titanic'' pressure from fans, critics, and other distributors for the parties involved to not completely sit on triple-A-quality material needlessly; the same ''may'' happen to ''MacrossFrontier'' (especially with the [=DVDs=] and soundtracks of that show pushing sales numbers not seen in at least a decade) but so far no plans for export have been announced (and as time grinds on, it begins to look less and less likely). ''{{Macross7}}'', ''MacrossZero'' and various video-game projects and the like stalled out completely and will almost certainly never see release overseas.
7th Mar '15 9:15:28 PM philipnova798
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* NoExportForYou: A large assortment of absolutely hideous legal snarls between Harmony Gold, Creator/StudioNue, Creator/{{Satelight}}, Creator/TatsunokoProduction, and Big West means that virtually nothing of the ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' series that wasn't incorporated into the original ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' adaptation has seen the light of day outside of Japan. ''MacrossPlus'' apparently got released only due to absolutely ''titanic'' pressure from fans, critics, and other distributors for the parties involved to not completely sit on triple-A-quality material needlessly; the same ''may'' happen to ''MacrossFrontier'' (especially with the [=DVDs=] and soundtracks of that show pushing sales numbers not seen in at least a decade) but so far no plans for export have been announced (and as time grinds on, it begins to look less and less likely). ''{{Macross7}}'', ''MacrossZero'' and various video-game projects and the like stalled out completely and will almost certainly never see release overseas.

to:

* NoExportForYou: A large assortment of absolutely hideous legal snarls between Harmony Gold, Creator/StudioNue, Creator/{{Satelight}}, Creator/TatsunokoProduction, and Big West means that virtually nothing of the ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' series that wasn't incorporated into the original ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' adaptation has seen the light of day outside of Japan.Japan[[note]]This also affects fellow sister series ''[[Anime/SuperDimensionCavalrySouthernCross Souther Cross]]''[[/note]]. ''MacrossPlus'' apparently got released only due to absolutely ''titanic'' pressure from fans, critics, and other distributors for the parties involved to not completely sit on triple-A-quality material needlessly; the same ''may'' happen to ''MacrossFrontier'' (especially with the [=DVDs=] and soundtracks of that show pushing sales numbers not seen in at least a decade) but so far no plans for export have been announced (and as time grinds on, it begins to look less and less likely). ''{{Macross7}}'', ''MacrossZero'' and various video-game projects and the like stalled out completely and will almost certainly never see release overseas.
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