History Trivia / SunsetBoulevard

28th Dec '17 2:30:49 PM GothicProphet
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* WorkingTitle: The writers feared that Hollywood would react unfavorably to such a damning portrait of the film industry, and so the film was code named ''A Can of Beans'' while in production.

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* WorkingTitle: The writers feared that Hollywood would react unfavorably to such a damning portrait of the film industry, and so the film was code named ''A Can of Beans'' while in production.production.
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11th Nov '17 10:38:40 AM ClintEastwood
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* BetaOutfit: The outfit for when Norma traveled to the studio still included [[PrettyInMink a white ermine hat]], but it [[http://silverscreenmodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Swanson2.jpg was like a head scarf]]. Swanson suggested [[http://silverscreenmodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Swanson3.jpg a hat more fitting]] the style of TheRoaringTwenties.
* CreatorBacklash: Erich von Stroheim complained that he was always identified with "that butler role" rather than anything else he directed or starred in.

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* BetaOutfit: The outfit for when CareerResurrection: Averted. Gloria Swanson's film career was not revitalized by the film. She was disappointed to see that all the parts she was offered subsequently were watered down versions of Norma traveled to the studio still included [[PrettyInMink a white ermine hat]], but it [[http://silverscreenmodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Swanson2.jpg was like a head scarf]]. Swanson suggested [[http://silverscreenmodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Swanson3.jpg a hat more fitting]] the style of TheRoaringTwenties.
Desmond. Ultimately she retired completely from films, making only sporadic appearances, notably in ''Film/Airport1975''.
* CreatorBacklash: Erich von Stroheim Creator/ErichVonStroheim complained that he was always identified with "that butler role" rather than anything else he directed or starred in.



* MetaCasting: Norma Desmond, a forgotten silent film star, was played by Gloria Swanson, a forgotten silent film star. Her butler, Max von Mayerling who used to be a leading silent film director is played by Creator/EricVonStroheim, who used to be a leading silent film director. (Needless to say, Swanson took her fall from stardom with ''much'' more grace and sanity than Norma.)



* StarMakingRole: For Creator/WilliamHolden.
* StarringAStarAsAStar: Silent film era star Gloria Swanson plays all-but-forgotten silent film ere star Norma Desmond (and silent film actor and director Creator/ErichVonStroheim plays Desmond's butler Max, also her former silent film director).



** Several other old-time actresses were considered for the role of Norma Desmond, including Pola Negri, Creator/MaryPickford, and even Creator/MaeWest, who was turned down after one meeting with the producers, who said they realized that she was still both too dignified and too pretty to believably sell a has-been character like Norma.
** Creator/MontgomeryClift was originally cast as Joe Gillis, but pulled out - reputedly because he himself was [[RealitySubtext dating a much older (and arguably washed up) singer at the time]]. Creator/MarlonBrando was deemed too much of an unknown and MGM refused to loan out Creator/GeneKelly.
** Creator/StephenSondheim began work on a musical version, before the release of Creator/AndrewLloydWebber's play. He abandoned the project due to Billy Wilder saying that he'd prefer a ''Sunset Boulevard'' opera to a musical.

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** Several other old-time actresses were considered for the role of Norma Desmond, including Creator/GretaGarbo, Pola Negri, Creator/MaryPickford, and even Creator/MaeWest, who was turned down after one meeting with the producers, who said they realized that she was still both too dignified and too pretty to believably sell a has-been character like Norma.
** Creator/MontgomeryClift was originally cast as Joe Gillis, but pulled out - reputedly because he himself was [[RealitySubtext dating a much older (and arguably washed up) singer at the time]]. Creator/MarlonBrando was deemed too much of an unknown and MGM Creator/{{MGM}} refused to loan out Creator/GeneKelly.
** Creator/StephenSondheim Music/StephenSondheim began work on a musical version, before the release of Creator/AndrewLloydWebber's play. He abandoned the project due to Billy Wilder saying that he'd prefer a ''Sunset Boulevard'' opera to a musical.
14th Aug '17 9:39:37 AM lalaTKG
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* MoneyDearBoy: Creator/CecilBDeMille agreed to do his cameo for a $10,000 fee and a brand-new Cadillac. When Billy Wilder went back to him later to secure a close-up, DeMille charged him another $10,000.

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* MoneyDearBoy: Creator/CecilBDeMille agreed to do his cameo for a $10,000 fee and a brand-new Cadillac. When Billy Wilder went back to him later to secure a close-up, DeMille [=DeMille=] charged him another $10,000.
25th May '17 5:01:05 AM CumbersomeTercel
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** Montgomery Clift was originally cast as Joe Gillis, but pulled out - reputedly because he himself was [[RealitySubtext dating a much older (and arguably washed up) singer at the time]]. Creator/MarlonBrando was deemed too much of an unknown and MGM refused to loan out Creator/GeneKelly.

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** Montgomery Clift Creator/MontgomeryClift was originally cast as Joe Gillis, but pulled out - reputedly because he himself was [[RealitySubtext dating a much older (and arguably washed up) singer at the time]]. Creator/MarlonBrando was deemed too much of an unknown and MGM refused to loan out Creator/GeneKelly.
9th Apr '17 6:55:35 AM LtFedora
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* BeamMeUpScotty: People often misquote this movie's famous line as "I'm ready for my closeup, Mr. [=DeMille=]."

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* BeamMeUpScotty: People often misquote this movie's famous line as "I'm ready for my closeup, Mr. [=DeMille=]."[=DeMille=]" when it's actually, "Alright, Mr. [=DeMille=], I'm ready for my close-up".
26th Jan '17 3:40:17 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* ThoseTwoActors: After the success of the film, this was attempted with William Holden and Nancy Olson; they appeared in three further films together, but none of them was really successful.

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* ThoseTwoActors: After the success of the film, this was attempted with William Holden Creator/WilliamHolden and Nancy Olson; they appeared in three further films together, but none of them was really successful.
26th Jan '17 3:39:42 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* MeanCharacterNiceActor: Gloria Swanson was worlds more stable and down-to-earth than Norma Desmond. Very notably, Swanson handled her change of fortune much better than Desmond: When it became apparent that her film career was over (at least in any roles besides a WhiteDwarfStarlet) she focused more on her theatre and television prospects, which, while nothing earth-shattering, were fairly successful and kept her in the public eye.

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* MeanCharacterNiceActor: IronyAsSheIsCast: Despite the fact that Creator/ErichVonStroheim plays a butler/chauffeur, he could not drive in real life. During the scenes in which he drove, the car was towed by another car. In the scene in which he drives Norma Desmond to Paramount Pictures at the studio gates the car was pulled by men with an out of camera rope.
* MethodActing: According to Gloria Swanson's daughter, Michelle Amon, her mother stayed in character throughout the entire shoot, even speaking like Norma Desmond when she arrived home in the evening after filming. On the last day of shooting, Swanson drove back to the house she, her mother and daughter shared during production, announcing "there were only three of us in it now, meaning that Norma Desmond had taken her leave."
* MoneyDearBoy: Creator/CecilBDeMille agreed to do his cameo for a $10,000 fee and a brand-new Cadillac. When Billy Wilder went back to him later to secure a close-up, DeMille charged him another $10,000.
* RealLife/MeanCharacterNiceActor:
Gloria Swanson was worlds more stable and down-to-earth than Norma Desmond. Very notably, Swanson handled her change of fortune much better than Desmond: When it became apparent that her film career was over (at least in any roles besides a WhiteDwarfStarlet) she focused more on her theatre and television prospects, which, while nothing earth-shattering, were fairly successful and kept her in the public eye.



** The Waxworks, of course, were real former Hollywood stars then considered has-beens, including BusterKeaton.

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** The Waxworks, of course, were real former Hollywood stars then considered has-beens, including BusterKeaton.Creator/BusterKeaton.



** Several other old-time actresses were considered for the role of Norma Desmond, including Pola Negri, Creator/MaryPickford, and even Creator/MaeWest, who was turned down after one meeting with the producers, who said they realized that she was still both too dignified and too pretty to believably sell a has-been character like Norma. Montgomery Clift was originally cast as Joe Gillis, but pulled out - reputedly because he himself was [[RealitySubtext dating a much older (and arguably washed up) singer at the time]].
** Creator/StephenSondheim began work on a musical version, before the release of Andrew Lloyd Webber's play. He abandoned the project due to Billy Wilder saying that he'd prefer a ''Sunset Boulevard'' opera to a musical.

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** Several other old-time actresses were considered for the role of Norma Desmond, including Pola Negri, Creator/MaryPickford, and even Creator/MaeWest, who was turned down after one meeting with the producers, who said they realized that she was still both too dignified and too pretty to believably sell a has-been character like Norma.
**
Montgomery Clift was originally cast as Joe Gillis, but pulled out - reputedly because he himself was [[RealitySubtext dating a much older (and arguably washed up) singer at the time]].
time]]. Creator/MarlonBrando was deemed too much of an unknown and MGM refused to loan out Creator/GeneKelly.
** Creator/StephenSondheim began work on a musical version, before the release of Andrew Lloyd Webber's Creator/AndrewLloydWebber's play. He abandoned the project due to Billy Wilder saying that he'd prefer a ''Sunset Boulevard'' opera to a musical.musical.
* WorkingTitle: The writers feared that Hollywood would react unfavorably to such a damning portrait of the film industry, and so the film was code named ''A Can of Beans'' while in production.
23rd Nov '16 5:13:33 AM SorPepita
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** The movie that Norma and Joe watch together was comprised of footage of from TroubledProduction ''Queen Kelly'' (1929) - directed by none other than Erich von Stroheim.

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** The movie that Norma and Joe watch together was comprised of footage of from TroubledProduction ''Queen Kelly'' (1929) - directed by none other than Erich von Stroheim.



** The Waxworks, of course, were real former Hollywood stars then considered has-beens, including Buster Keaton.

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** The Waxworks, of course, were real former Hollywood stars then considered has-beens, including Buster Keaton.BusterKeaton.
17th Sep '16 4:07:15 PM DrOO7
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** AFIS100Years100Movies10thAnniversaryEdition: #16

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** AFIS100Years100Movies10thAnniversaryEdition: AFIS100Years100Movies10THAnniversaryEdition: #16
28th Aug '16 9:03:59 PM HamburgerTime
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** Several other old-time actresses were considered for the role of Norma Desmond, including Pola Negri, Creator/MaryPickford, and even Creator/MaeWest. Montgomery Clift was originally cast as Joe Gillis, but pulled out - reputedly because he himself was [[RealitySubtext dating a much older (and arguably washed up) singer at the time]].

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** Several other old-time actresses were considered for the role of Norma Desmond, including Pola Negri, Creator/MaryPickford, and even Creator/MaeWest.Creator/MaeWest, who was turned down after one meeting with the producers, who said they realized that she was still both too dignified and too pretty to believably sell a has-been character like Norma. Montgomery Clift was originally cast as Joe Gillis, but pulled out - reputedly because he himself was [[RealitySubtext dating a much older (and arguably washed up) singer at the time]].
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