History Trivia / StarTrekVItheUndiscoveredCountry

20th Mar '17 6:57:59 PM PaulA
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* {{Homage}}: The speech that the warden gives Kirk and [=McCoy=] upon their entry to Rura Penthe is a paraphrase of Colonel Saito's speech to captured British P.O.W.s in ''Film/TheBridgeOnTheRiverKwai''. For comparison:
-->'''Colonel Saito''': If you work hard, you will be treated well. But if you do not work hard, you will be punished! A word to you about escape. There is no barbed wire, no stockade, no watchtower. They are not necessary. We are an island in the jungle. Escape is impossible. You would die.\\
'''Rura Penthe Warden''': This is the gulag Rura Penthe. There is no stockade. No guard tower. No electronic frontier. Only a magnetic shield prevents beaming. Punishment means exile from prison, to the surface. On the surface, nothing can survive. Work well, and you will be treated well. Work badly, and you will die.



* IWantYouToMeetAnOldFriendOfMine: William Shatner was once Christopher Plummer's understudy. Here they play enemies.



* ShipTease: Very subtly between Spock and Valeris, reflected in their UST-filled nightcap and his emotional response to her betrayal. This is likely a remnant of the original script which was to have the established character of Saavik instead of Valeris (reflecting the fact Spock and Saavik were strongly implied to have mated in Star Trek III and a deleted scene in Star Trek IV had established that Saavik was pregnant with Spock's child; in the ExpandedUniverse novels, Spock and Saavik eventually marry.)
20th Mar '17 6:57:00 PM PaulA
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* MeanCharacterNiceActor: Brock Peters as the FantasticRacist Admiral Cartwright. See CastingGag above and PlayingAgainstType below for more information.
20th Mar '17 6:48:35 PM PaulA
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* {{Homage}}: The speech that the warden gives Kirk and [=McCoy=] upon their entry to Rura Penthe is a paraphrase of Colonel Saito's speech to captured British P.O.W.s in ''TheBridgeOnTheRiverKwai''. For comparison:

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* {{Homage}}: The speech that the warden gives Kirk and [=McCoy=] upon their entry to Rura Penthe is a paraphrase of Colonel Saito's speech to captured British P.O.W.s in ''TheBridgeOnTheRiverKwai''.''Film/TheBridgeOnTheRiverKwai''. For comparison:
27th Feb '17 1:08:00 PM LtFedora
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* {{Homage}}: The speech that the warden gives Kirk and [=McCoy=] upon their entry to Rura Penthe is a paraphrase of Colonel Saito's speech to captured British P.O.W.s in ''TheBridgeOnTheRiverKwai''. For comparison:
-->'''Colonel Saito''': If you work hard, you will be treated well. But if you do not work hard, you will be punished! A word to you about escape. There is no barbed wire, no stockade, no watchtower. They are not necessary. We are an island in the jungle. Escape is impossible. You would die.\\
'''Rura Penthe Warden''': This is the gulag Rura Penthe. There is no stockade. No guard tower. No electronic frontier. Only a magnetic shield prevents beaming. Punishment means exile from prison, to the surface. On the surface, nothing can survive. Work well, and you will be treated well. Work badly, and you will die.



* RecycledSet: This movie was filmed while ''Star Trek: The Next Generation'' was still in production. As a result several of the TV show's sets found their way into the movies. However, these sets were originally designed for the first ''Star Trek'' movie and late redressed for television. Some sets, such as corridors and crew quarters had a few different paint jobs and cosmetic touches, however, others were a bit more obvious:
** Main engineering of the Enterprise-A was essentially the Enterprise-D's main engineering set with different graphics in the displays and a different paint job.
** The officer's mess hall was the Enterprise-D's observation lounge set. This is why the little Enterprise statues that are present in that set during the first four seasons of the show mysteriously disappear.
** The Federation President's office is the Enterprise-D's Ten Forward with some curtains and different lighting.
** Kirk's quarters set was recycled for Data's in ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' and then recycled back for this film. The added replicator set piece had its panel changed and used as an shelf. Data's quarters were, themselves, a redress of Kirk's ''Motion Picture'' and ''Wrath of Khan'' quarters -- this is the TNG "junior officer's quarters" set and is used variously for the quarters of Data, [=LaForge=], Chief O'Brien and Worf, before he had Alexander.
* ShipTease: Very subtly between Spock and Valeris, reflected in their UST-filled nightcap and his emotional response to her betrayal. This is likely a remnant of the original script which was to have the established character of Saavik instead of Valeris (reflecting the fact Spock and Saavik were strongly implied to have mated in Star Trek III and a deleted scene in Star Trek IV had established that Saavik was pregnant with Spock's child; in the ExpandedUniverse novels, Spock and Saavik eventually marry.)



* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Or intentional, as this movie could only have been made in the midst of the end of the UsefulNotes/ColdWar of 1990-91. Since Cold War allegories played a big part in the original series in the '60s, it's actually rather thematically fitting that the original cast's story should end here.



** Creator/WhoopiGoldberg was going to cameo as Guinan. Ironically, she was busy filming ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration''. She eventually got a role in the next film.
* {{Homage}}: The speech that the warden gives Kirk and [=McCoy=] upon their entry to Rura Penthe is a paraphrase of Colonel Saito's speech to captured British P.O.W.s in ''TheBridgeOnTheRiverKwai''. For comparison:
-->'''Colonel Saito''': If you work hard, you will be treated well. But if you do not work hard, you will be punished! A word to you about escape. There is no barbed wire, no stockade, no watchtower. They are not necessary. We are an island in the jungle. Escape is impossible. You would die.\\
'''Rura Penthe Warden''': This is the gulag Rura Penthe. There is no stockade. No guard tower. No electronic frontier. Only a magnetic shield prevents beaming. Punishment means exile from prison, to the surface. On the surface, nothing can survive. Work well, and you will be treated well. Work badly, and you will die.
* RecycledSet: This movie was filmed while ''Star Trek: The Next Generation'' was still in production. As a result several of the TV show's sets found their way into the movies. However, these sets were originally designed for the first ''Star Trek'' movie and late redressed for television. Some sets, such as corridors and crew quarters had a few different paint jobs and cosmetic touches, however, others were a bit more obvious:
** Main engineering of the Enterprise-A was essentially the Enterprise-D's main engineering set with different graphics in the displays and a different paint job.
** The officer's mess hall was the Enterprise-D's observation lounge set. This is why the little Enterprise statues that are present in that set during the first four seasons of the show mysteriously disappear.
** The Federation President's office is the Enterprise-D's Ten Forward with some curtains and different lighting.
** Kirk's quarters set was recycled for Data's in ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' and then recycled back for this film. The added replicator set piece had its panel changed and used as an shelf. Data's quarters were, themselves, a redress of Kirk's ''Motion Picture'' and ''Wrath of Khan'' quarters -- this is the TNG "junior officer's quarters" set and is used variously for the quarters of Data, [=LaForge=], Chief O'Brien and Worf, before he had Alexander.
* ShipTease: Very subtly between Spock and Valeris, reflected in their UST-filled nightcap and his emotional response to her betrayal. This is likely a remnant of the original script which was to have the established character of Saavik instead of Valeris (reflecting the fact Spock and Saavik were strongly implied to have mated in Star Trek III and a deleted scene in Star Trek IV had established that Saavik was pregnant with Spock's child; in the ExpandedUniverse novels, Spock and Saavik eventually marry.)
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Or intentional, as this movie could only have been made in the midst of the end of the UsefulNotes/ColdWar of 1990-91. Since Cold War allegories played a big part in the original series in the '60s, it's actually rather thematically fitting that the original cast's story should end here.

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** Creator/WhoopiGoldberg was going to cameo as Guinan. Ironically, she was busy filming ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration''. She eventually got a role in the next film.
* {{Homage}}: The speech that the warden gives Kirk and [=McCoy=] upon their entry to Rura Penthe is a paraphrase of Colonel Saito's speech to captured British P.O.W.s in ''TheBridgeOnTheRiverKwai''. For comparison:
-->'''Colonel Saito''': If you work hard, you will be treated well. But if you do not work hard, you will be punished! A word to you about escape. There is no barbed wire, no stockade, no watchtower. They are not necessary. We are an island in the jungle. Escape is impossible. You would die.\\
'''Rura Penthe Warden''': This is the gulag Rura Penthe. There is no stockade. No guard tower. No electronic frontier. Only a magnetic shield prevents beaming. Punishment means exile from prison, to the surface. On the surface, nothing can survive. Work well, and you will be treated well. Work badly, and you will die.
* RecycledSet: This movie was filmed while ''Star Trek: The Next Generation'' was still in production. As a result several of the TV show's sets found their way into the movies. However, these sets were originally designed for the first ''Star Trek'' movie and late redressed for television. Some sets, such as corridors and crew quarters had a few different paint jobs and cosmetic touches, however, others were a bit more obvious:
** Main engineering of the Enterprise-A was essentially the Enterprise-D's main engineering set with different graphics in the displays and a different paint job.
** The officer's mess hall was the Enterprise-D's observation lounge set. This is why the little Enterprise statues that are present in that set during the first four seasons of the show mysteriously disappear.
** The Federation President's office is the Enterprise-D's Ten Forward with some curtains and different lighting.
** Kirk's quarters set was recycled for Data's in ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' and then recycled back for this film. The added replicator set piece had its panel changed and used as an shelf. Data's quarters were, themselves, a redress of Kirk's ''Motion Picture'' and ''Wrath of Khan'' quarters -- this is the TNG "junior officer's quarters" set and is used variously for the quarters of Data, [=LaForge=], Chief O'Brien and Worf, before he had Alexander.
* ShipTease: Very subtly between Spock and Valeris, reflected in their UST-filled nightcap and his emotional response to her betrayal. This is likely a remnant of the original script which was to have the established character of Saavik instead of Valeris (reflecting the fact Spock and Saavik were strongly implied to have mated in Star Trek III and a deleted scene in Star Trek IV had established that Saavik was pregnant with Spock's child; in the ExpandedUniverse novels, Spock and Saavik eventually marry.)
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Or intentional, as this movie could only have been made in the midst of the end of the UsefulNotes/ColdWar of 1990-91. Since Cold War allegories played a big part in the original series in the '60s, it's actually rather thematically fitting that the original cast's story should end here.
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22nd Jan '17 4:52:06 PM skidoo23
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** Creator/GeneRoddenberry. Again. He had a hard time with [[spoiler: Saavik]] being the traitor.

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** Creator/GeneRoddenberry. Again. He had a hard time with [[spoiler: Saavik]] being the traitor. He won this battle, and a new character was created instead.



* FanNickname: ''Star Trek VI: The Apology''.

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* FanNickname: ''Star Trek VI: The Apology''.Apology'', due to the film being seen as a return to form after the unpopular ''Star Trek V''.



** Creator/WhoopiGoldberg was going to cameo as Guinan. Ironically, she was busy filming ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration''.

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** Creator/WhoopiGoldberg was going to cameo as Guinan. Ironically, she was busy filming ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration''. She eventually got a role in the next film.


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* ShipTease: Very subtly between Spock and Valeris, reflected in their UST-filled nightcap and his emotional response to her betrayal. This is likely a remnant of the original script which was to have the established character of Saavik instead of Valeris (reflecting the fact Spock and Saavik were strongly implied to have mated in Star Trek III and a deleted scene in Star Trek IV had established that Saavik was pregnant with Spock's child; in the ExpandedUniverse novels, Spock and Saavik eventually marry.)
10th Dec '16 4:47:24 PM LarryMullen
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* RecycledSet: The movie, suffering a budget crisis, extensively reuses ''The Next Generation'' sets. The Observation Lounge becomes the Officers' Mess, Ten-Forward becomes the President's Office, and Main Engineering pretends to be Main Engineering from 75 years ago ''whilst looking exactly the same''. Unfortunately ''TNG'' was so wildly popular in 1991, the recycling was very obvious.
10th Dec '16 4:44:18 PM LarryMullen
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* CaliforniaDoubling: Camp Khitomer is The House of the Book performance hall and library building at the American Jewish University, Brandeis-Bardin Campus in Simi Valley, California (best known as the Command Center/Power Chamber from ''Franchise/PowerRangers''). The foreground is the Fireman's Fund Building in Novato, Northern California.


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* RecycledSet: The movie, suffering a budget crisis, extensively reuses ''The Next Generation'' sets. The Observation Lounge becomes the Officers' Mess, Ten-Forward becomes the President's Office, and Main Engineering pretends to be Main Engineering from 75 years ago ''whilst looking exactly the same''. Unfortunately ''TNG'' was so wildly popular in 1991, the recycling was very obvious.
22nd Nov '16 3:55:11 PM jeffreyloonychen
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* MeanCharacterNiceActor: Brock Peters as the FantasticRacist Admiral Cartwright. See CastingGag above and PlayingAgainstType below for more information.
9th Oct '16 4:30:44 PM AnotherGuy
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** Brock Peters playing a racist, especially considering his advocacy for civil rights. The film was an OldShame for him because of that characterization of Cartwright.
4th Oct '16 4:41:55 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* CaliforniaDoubling: Camp Khitomer is The House of the Book performance hall and library building at the American Jewish University, Brandeis-Bardin Campus in Simi Valley, California (best known as the Command Center/Power Chamber from ''Franchise/PowerRangers''). The foreground is the Fireman's Fund Building in Novato, Northern California.



** Gene Roddenberry. Again. He had a hard time with [[spoiler: Saavik]] being the traitor.

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** Gene Roddenberry.Creator/GeneRoddenberry. Again. He had a hard time with [[spoiler: Saavik]] being the traitor.
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