History Trivia / StarTrekDeepSpaceNine

23rd Apr '17 9:45:19 AM nombretomado
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** Joe Sisko had previously been Admiral Cartwright in the 4th and 6th movies; he's also a case of You ''Sound'' Familiar- Creator/HannaBarbera used him three times as the BigBad in three different series: ''WesternAnimation/GaltarAndTheGoldenLance'' (Tormack), ''WesternAnimation/ThePiratesOfDarkWater'' (Bloth), and ''SwatKats'' (Dark Kat).

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** Joe Sisko had previously been Admiral Cartwright in the 4th and 6th movies; he's also a case of You ''Sound'' Familiar- Creator/HannaBarbera used him three times as the BigBad in three different series: ''WesternAnimation/GaltarAndTheGoldenLance'' (Tormack), ''WesternAnimation/ThePiratesOfDarkWater'' (Bloth), and ''SwatKats'' ''WesternAnimation/SwatKats'' (Dark Kat).
26th Mar '17 8:09:34 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Carl Weathers (Apollo Creed from the ''Rocky'' films, Dillon in ''Predator'') was considered for the role of Ben Sisko. Eriq La Salle, Tony Todd and even the voice of Darth Vader himself JamesEarlJones were offered the role of Sisko as well but either declined or were passed over in favor of Avery Brooks.
** The "Captain Shelby" of the USS ''Sutherland'' mentioned in "You Are Cordially Invited..." was planned to be Elizabeth Shelby from "The Best of Both Worlds" and have the ''Sutherland'' crew be {{recurring|Character}} [[HeroOfAnotherStory Heroes of Another Story]]. Unfortunately the team forgot they had promised Creator/PeterDavid that they weren't going to use her again and thereby give him free rein with writing her in the ''Literature/StarTrekNewFrontier'' novels. They agreed to scuttle the plan after discussing it with Pocket Books' John Ordover, after which Ron Moore said that from an InUniverse standpoint he was leaving whether they were the same Shelby as a "maybe".
** The Dominion was originally planned as a dark reflection of the Federation, with conquered species being integrated into the Empire and Jem'Hadar functioning as EliteMooks instead of rank-and-file soldiers. This turned out to be more trouble than it was worth and was abandoned fairly early, although not before it was referred to several times.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Carl Weathers (Apollo Creed from the ''Rocky'' films, Dillon in ''Predator'') was considered for the role of Ben Sisko. Eriq La Salle, Tony Todd and even the voice of Darth Vader himself JamesEarlJones were offered the role of Sisko as well but either declined or were passed over in favor of Avery Brooks.
** The "Captain Shelby" of the USS ''Sutherland'' mentioned in "You Are Cordially Invited..." was planned to be Elizabeth Shelby from "The Best of Both Worlds" and have the ''Sutherland'' crew be {{recurring|Character}} [[HeroOfAnotherStory Heroes of Another Story]]. Unfortunately the team forgot they had promised Creator/PeterDavid that they weren't going to use her again and thereby give him free rein with writing her in the ''Literature/StarTrekNewFrontier'' novels. They agreed to scuttle the plan after discussing it with Pocket Books' John Ordover, after which Ron Moore said that from an InUniverse standpoint he was leaving whether they were the same Shelby as a "maybe".
** The Dominion was originally planned as a dark reflection of the Federation, with conquered species being integrated into the Empire and Jem'Hadar functioning as EliteMooks instead of rank-and-file soldiers. This turned out to be more trouble than it was worth and was abandoned fairly early, although not before it was referred to several times.
WhatCouldHaveBeen: [[WhatCouldHaveBeen/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine has it's own page.]]
6th Mar '17 5:33:26 PM ImpudentInfidel
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** The Dominion was originally planned as a dark reflection of the Federation, with conquered species being integrated into the Empire and Jem'Hadar functioning as EliteMooks instead of rank-and-file soldiers. This turned out to be more trouble than it was worth and was abandoned fairly early, although not before it was referred to several times.
4th Mar '17 8:46:59 AM timotaka
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* DevelopmentGag: The name of the episode "The Siege of AR-558" comes from 558 being the development number of the episode. It fits the overall idea of the battleground being such a random nondescript place that it doesn't even have a real name.
3rd Mar '17 2:28:34 PM timotaka
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* DuelingShows: With ''Series/BabylonFive'' during its '94-'95 run. B5's auteur Creator/JMichaelStraczynski claims that Paramount stole his story treatment, and it got pretty ugly in spots. The two would remain rivals throughout their respective runs, with [=B5=] wrapping up a year earlier in 1998. The two shows' similarities begin at being set on a space station at a trade crossroads and don't stop there:

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* DuelingShows: With ''Series/BabylonFive'' during its '94-'95 run. B5's auteur Creator/JMichaelStraczynski claims claimed for years that Paramount stole his story treatment, and it got pretty ugly in spots.but he has since backed down after internal company memos came to light that showed the idea circulating around before he pitched his show. The two would remain rivals throughout their respective runs, with [=B5=] wrapping up a year earlier in 1998. The two shows' similarities begin at being set on a space station at a trade crossroads and don't stop there:
3rd Mar '17 2:23:20 PM timotaka
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* YouLookFamiliar: Joe Sisko had previously been Admiral Cartwright in the 4th and 6th movies; he's also a case of You ''Sound'' Familiar- Creator/HannaBarbera used him three times as the BigBad in three different series: ''WesternAnimation/GaltarAndTheGoldenLance'' (Tormack), ''WesternAnimation/ThePiratesOfDarkWater'' (Bloth), and ''SwatKats'' (Dark Kat).

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* YouLookFamiliar: YouLookFamiliar:
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Joe Sisko had previously been Admiral Cartwright in the 4th and 6th movies; he's also a case of You ''Sound'' Familiar- Creator/HannaBarbera used him three times as the BigBad in three different series: ''WesternAnimation/GaltarAndTheGoldenLance'' (Tormack), ''WesternAnimation/ThePiratesOfDarkWater'' (Bloth), and ''SwatKats'' (Dark Kat).Kat).
** Odo's actor Rene Auberjonois likewise had a side role in the 6th movie.
25th Nov '16 8:38:01 AM Pren
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* TroubledProduction: Most of the show went by fairly smoothly, especially compared to the stuff ''Voyager'' was going through, but the six episode arc of the station being taken over by the Dominion in Season 6 really stands out as a mess of a production, with the entire crew being completely inexperienced at writing a long form story with such tight continuity. The various episode crews were constantly stepping on each other's toes as they could never predict how much time or money they would need, and entire storylines had to be swapped between episodes while still keeping everything making sense. It's quite amazing that the final result was so popular.
19th Nov '16 10:08:04 AM StarSword
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** There was also an amusing incident involving actor Creator/RobertFoxworth, who had appeared on ''B5'' as Earthforce General William Hague, part of the conspiracy to overthrow [[PresidentEvil President Clark]]. He was then mistakenly double-booked by his agent as the very similar Admiral James Leyton on ''[=DS9=]''[='s=] "Homefront"/"Paradise Lost" two-parter, resulting in Hague being killed offscreen in "Severed Dreams". (Creator/BruceMcGill said in an outtake for that episode that Hague couldn't be present because he was "doing ''Deep Space Nine''.")
19th Nov '16 9:59:37 AM StarSword
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* DuelingShows:
** With ''Series/BabylonFive'' during its '94-'95 run. B5's auteur Creator/JMichaelStraczynski claims that Paramount stole his story treatment, and it got pretty ugly in spots. The two would remain rivals throughout their respective runs, with [=B5=] wrapping up a year earlier in 1998.

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* DuelingShows:
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DuelingShows: With ''Series/BabylonFive'' during its '94-'95 run. B5's auteur Creator/JMichaelStraczynski claims that Paramount stole his story treatment, and it got pretty ugly in spots. The two would remain rivals throughout their respective runs, with [=B5=] wrapping up a year earlier in 1998. The two shows' similarities begin at being set on a space station at a trade crossroads and don't stop there:



** The ''Deep Space Nine'' writers weren't above including their own subtle jabs at B5. One episode featured Bashir having to chaperone a cadre of Ambassadors visiting the station and putting up with all the crap that comes with it. According to JMS, the Writers of [=DS=]9 actually liked [=B5=]. The ''producers'', not so much.
** There are massive parallels between the Sheridan/Shadows and the Sisko/Pa'Wraith arc. [[spoiler:Sisko is marked for death by the Prophets for defying them and takes a high-dive into the Fire Caves, 'killing' him while transferring his essence to a spiritual realm]]: the situation is a mirror of Sheridan's trip to Z'ha'dum and his later vanishing into the Rim.

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** The ''Deep Space Nine'' writers weren't above including their own subtle jabs at B5. One episode featured Bashir having to chaperone a cadre of Ambassadors visiting the station and putting up with all the crap that comes with it. According to JMS, the Writers writers of [=DS=]9 actually liked [=B5=]. The ''producers'', not so much.
** There are massive parallels between the Sheridan/Shadows and the Sisko/Pa'Wraith Sisko/Pah-Wraith arc. [[spoiler:Sisko is marked for death by the Prophets for defying them and takes a high-dive into the Fire Caves, 'killing' him while transferring his essence to a spiritual realm]]: the situation is a mirror of Sheridan's trip to Z'ha'dum and his later vanishing into the Rim.
19th Nov '16 9:51:19 AM StarSword
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Carl Weathers (Apollo Creed from the ''Rocky'' films, Dillon in ''Predator'') was considered for the role of Ben Sisko. Eriq La Salle, Tony Todd and even the voice of Darth Vader himself JamesEarlJones were offered the role of Sisko as well but either declined or were passed over in favor of Avery Brooks.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: WhatCouldHaveBeen:
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Carl Weathers (Apollo Creed from the ''Rocky'' films, Dillon in ''Predator'') was considered for the role of Ben Sisko. Eriq La Salle, Tony Todd and even the voice of Darth Vader himself JamesEarlJones were offered the role of Sisko as well but either declined or were passed over in favor of Avery Brooks. Brooks.
** The "Captain Shelby" of the USS ''Sutherland'' mentioned in "You Are Cordially Invited..." was planned to be Elizabeth Shelby from "The Best of Both Worlds" and have the ''Sutherland'' crew be {{recurring|Character}} [[HeroOfAnotherStory Heroes of Another Story]]. Unfortunately the team forgot they had promised Creator/PeterDavid that they weren't going to use her again and thereby give him free rein with writing her in the ''Literature/StarTrekNewFrontier'' novels. They agreed to scuttle the plan after discussing it with Pocket Books' John Ordover, after which Ron Moore said that from an InUniverse standpoint he was leaving whether they were the same Shelby as a "maybe".
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