History Trivia / Sonic3AndKnuckles

25th Jan '16 12:57:54 PM Blazer
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* ChristmasRushed: The game in its completed state was too ambitious for it to be completed in such a short time. As well, UsefulNotes/McDonalds ended up pushing Happy Meal toys before the game was released, forcing Sega's hand in the entire thing. ''Sonic 3'' was released in February 1993 and ''& Knuckles'' would be released ten months later.
23rd Oct '15 1:31:15 PM MissConception
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* NamesTheSame: In English materials - Blastoid from [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Blastoid Hydrocity]] and [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Sparkle Carnival Night]], and Mushmeanie from [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Mushmeanie Mushroom Hill]] and [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Iwamodoki Lava Reef]]. In Japanese materials, these enemies have separate names.
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* NamesTheSame: In English materials - Blastoid from [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Blastoid Hydrocity]] and [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Sparkle Carnival Night]], and Mushmeanie from [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Mushmeanie Mushroom Hill]] and [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Iwamodoki Lava Reef]]. In Japanese materials, these enemies have separate names.names, but [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Sandworm Sandworm]] shares its name with the first [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Caterkiller Caterkiller]] from ''VideoGame/{{Sonic the Hedgehog|1}}'' (Gnarl).
23rd Oct '15 12:37:49 PM MissConception
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** The robotic duplicate of Sonic that appears late in the game also has multiple names depending on the source - Metal Sonic according to the [[AllInTheManual back of the original North American release box]] of ''Sonic & Knuckles'', Mecha Sonic according to [[NoExportForYou Japanese strategy guides]], [[Comicbook/SonicTheHedgehog Archie Comics]], and recaps on the [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog4 Sonic The Hedgehog 4 EPISODE I]] websites, and the Evil Sonic according to the ''ComicBook/SonicTheComic'' Q Zone. Officially, the recurring Metal Sonic from ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehogCD'' has no connection with this character, but it MAY be related to the Mecha Sonic robot(s) from either version of ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2''. Evil Sonic is used to differentiate.
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** The robotic duplicate of Sonic that appears late in the game also has multiple names depending on the source - Metal Sonic according to the [[AllInTheManual back of the original North American release box]] of ''Sonic & Knuckles'', Mecha Sonic according to [[NoExportForYou Japanese strategy guides]], [[Comicbook/SonicTheHedgehog Archie Comics]], and recaps on the [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog4 ''[[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog4 Sonic The Hedgehog 4 EPISODE I]] I]]'' websites, and the Evil Sonic according to the ''ComicBook/SonicTheComic'' Q Zone. Officially, the recurring Metal Sonic from ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehogCD'' has no connection with this character, but it MAY be related to the Mecha Sonic robot(s) from either version of ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2''. Evil Sonic is used to differentiate.
23rd Oct '15 12:36:08 PM MissConception
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* FanRemake: ''Sonic 3 Complete'' is a fairly well-known hack that polishes the game in areas that the official ''Sonic 3 & Knuckles'' didn't (fixing glitches, giving Super Sonic actual sprites for certain things) as well as allowing several option like choosing the different tracks between ''Sonic 3'' or ''Sonic & Knuckles'' and allowing the ability to play ''Sonic 3'' or ''Sonic & Knuckles'' standalone in the same game. It also added some goodies like restoring the beta level order (Flying Battery after Carnival Night), and the option to do the Super Peel-Out from ''Sonic CD''. For more extras, you can even create IPS patches that change the game even further, such as changing Sonic back to his ''Sonic 1'' and ''Sonic 2'' sprites, with new sprites to accommodate them for all of the actions he could only do in ''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''. * ManualMisprint: A few of the enemies from ''Sonic & Knuckles'' showed up in ''Sonic the Hedgehog 3'''s instruction manual.
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* FanRemake: ''Sonic 3 Complete'' is a fairly well-known hack that polishes the game in areas that the official ''Sonic 3 & Knuckles'' didn't (fixing glitches, giving Super Sonic actual sprites for certain things) as well as allowing several option like a plethora of options such as choosing the different individual tracks between ''Sonic 3'' or ''Sonic & Knuckles'' and allowing the ability to play ''Sonic 3'' or ''Sonic & Knuckles'' standalone in the same game. It also added some goodies like restoring the beta "Beta" level order (Flying Battery after Carnival Night), and the option to do the Super Peel-Out Peel Out from ''Sonic CD''. For more extras, you can even create IPS patches that change the game even further, such as changing Sonic back to his ''Sonic 1'' and ''Sonic 2'' sprites, with new sprites to accommodate them for all of the actions he could only do in ''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''. * ManualMisprint: A few of the enemies The two Badniks from Flying Battery Zone in ''Sonic & Knuckles'' first showed up in the ''Sonic the Hedgehog 3'''s 3'' instruction manual.manual. * NamesTheSame: In English materials - Blastoid from [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Blastoid Hydrocity]] and [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Sparkle Carnival Night]], and Mushmeanie from [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Mushmeanie Mushroom Hill]] and [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Iwamodoki Lava Reef]]. In Japanese materials, these enemies have separate names. ** The robotic duplicate of Sonic that appears late in the game also has multiple names depending on the source - Metal Sonic according to the [[AllInTheManual back of the original North American release box]] of ''Sonic & Knuckles'', Mecha Sonic according to [[NoExportForYou Japanese strategy guides]], [[Comicbook/SonicTheHedgehog Archie Comics]], and recaps on the [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog4 Sonic The Hedgehog 4 EPISODE I]] websites, and the Evil Sonic according to the ''ComicBook/SonicTheComic'' Q Zone. Officially, the recurring Metal Sonic from ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehogCD'' has no connection with this character, but it MAY be related to the Mecha Sonic robot(s) from either version of ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2''. Evil Sonic is used to differentiate.

** There tends to be confusion as to why the original ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'' could not be locked in with ''Sonic & Knuckles''. The two most popular explanations are Knuckles would have dramatically altered the color pallet or that Knuckles gliding on conveyor belts in Scrap Brain Zone would cause the game to [[GameBreakingBug crash]]. Both of which were solved by the famous ROM hack ''Knuckles in Sonic the Hedgehog 1'' as well as any future ROM hacks starring characters other than Sonic. ** Despite what your third grade friends (and basic logic) told you, it's not possible to beat the Fire Breath the first time you see it and stop it from burning Angel Island. No matter how fast you hit it, it'll successfully set off the firebombs and escape with its robotic life. * WhatCouldHaveBeen: Flying Battery Zone was originally planned to be in the ''Sonic 3'' half, between Carnival Night and Ice Cap (and Sonic's snowboard would have been a door from the Battery). But time constraints intervened, and it had to be cut and moved to the ''Sonic & Knuckles'' half. Additionally, Mushroom Hill (then known as Mushroom Valley) was also planned for the ''Sonic 3'' half.
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** There tends to be confusion as to why the original ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'' ''[[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog1 Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' could not be locked in with ''Sonic & Knuckles''. The two most popular explanations are Knuckles would have dramatically altered the color pallet or that Knuckles gliding on conveyor belts in Scrap Brain Zone would cause the game to [[GameBreakingBug crash]]. Both of which were solved by the famous ROM hack ''Knuckles the Echidna in Sonic the Hedgehog 1'' Hedgehog'' as well as any future ROM hacks starring characters other than Sonic. ** Despite what your third grade friends (and basic logic) told you, it's not possible to beat the Fire Breath the first time you see it and stop it from burning Angel Island. No matter how fast you hit it, it'll successfully set off the firebombs and escape with its robotic life. * WhatCouldHaveBeen: Flying Battery Zone was originally planned to be in the ''Sonic 3'' half, between Carnival Night and Ice Cap [=IceCap=] (and Sonic's snowboard Sonic would have been a improvised the broken door from the Battery). But time as a snowboard). Time constraints intervened, and it (along with at least "Mushroom Valley" and Sandopolis) had to be cut and moved to the ''Sonic & Knuckles'' half. In the end, this was probably a good call, as it helps to balance the emerald collection in the combined game. ** Additionally, Mushroom Hill (then known as Mushroom Valley) the Super Emeralds and their powers were not part of the original plan - according to [[WordOfGod Takashi Iizuka]] at [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzxRoIX4QU&t=19m40s Sonic Boom 2013]], they were only added after the game was also planned for split so the ''Sonic 3'' half.player would have an incentive to go through another set of Special Stages.
23rd Oct '15 7:14:53 AM rjd1922
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* ScrewedByTheLawyers: According to Cirocco Jones (mistakenly credited as Scirocco in the ''Sonic 3'' credits), there's a ''huge'' legal mess concerning the music used in the games, likely due to unpaid royalties, improperly crediting the musicians, or (as was the case with Dreams Come true), licensing issues. Considering that two of the music composers (Music/MichaelJackson and Brad Buxer) directly sampled songs from their respective discographies, the latter is the most likely. \\
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* ScrewedByTheLawyers: According to Cirocco Jones (mistakenly credited as Scirocco in the ''Sonic 3'' credits), there's a ''huge'' legal mess concerning the music used in the games, likely due to unpaid royalties, improperly crediting the musicians, or (as was the case with Dreams Come true), True), licensing issues. Considering that two of the music composers (Music/MichaelJackson and Brad Buxer) directly sampled songs from their respective discographies, the latter is the most likely. \\
22nd Sep '15 12:38:19 AM NedZeppelin
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Flying Battery Zone was originally planned to be in the ''Sonic 3'' half, between Carnival Night and Ice Cap (and Sonic's snowboard would have been a door from the Battery). But time constraints intervened, and it had to be cut and moved to the ''Sonic & Knuckles'' half.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Flying Battery Zone was originally planned to be in the ''Sonic 3'' half, between Carnival Night and Ice Cap (and Sonic's snowboard would have been a door from the Battery). But time constraints intervened, and it had to be cut and moved to the ''Sonic & Knuckles'' half. Additionally, Mushroom Hill (then known as Mushroom Valley) was also planned for the ''Sonic 3'' half.
25th Jul '15 6:34:52 PM nombretomado
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* ScrewedByTheLawyers: According to Cirocco Jones (mistakenly credited as Scirocco in the ''Sonic 3'' credits), there's a ''huge'' legal mess concerning the music used in the games, likely due to unpaid royalties, improperly crediting the musicians, or (as was the case with Dreams Come true), licensing issues. Considering that two of the music composers (MichaelJackson and Brad Buxer) directly sampled songs from their respective discographies, the latter is the most likely. \\
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* ScrewedByTheLawyers: According to Cirocco Jones (mistakenly credited as Scirocco in the ''Sonic 3'' credits), there's a ''huge'' legal mess concerning the music used in the games, likely due to unpaid royalties, improperly crediting the musicians, or (as was the case with Dreams Come true), licensing issues. Considering that two of the music composers (MichaelJackson (Music/MichaelJackson and Brad Buxer) directly sampled songs from their respective discographies, the latter is the most likely. \\
4th May '15 10:39:25 PM WaxingName
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* ScrewedByTheLawyers: According to Cirocco Jones (mistakenly credited as Scirocco in the ''Sonic 3'' credits), there's a ''huge'' legal mess concerning the music used in the games, likely due to unpaid royalties, improperly crediting the musicians, or (as was the case with Dreams Come true), licensing issues. Considering that two of the music composers (MichaelJackson and Brad Buxer) directly sampled songs from their respective discographies, the latter is the most likely. Some believe this is the reason why a Taxman[=/=]Stealth remaster seems unlikely, as Sega has only been able to release direct emulations of the original game or recoded versions with different music (as seen in the PC version).
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* ScrewedByTheLawyers: According to Cirocco Jones (mistakenly credited as Scirocco in the ''Sonic 3'' credits), there's a ''huge'' legal mess concerning the music used in the games, likely due to unpaid royalties, improperly crediting the musicians, or (as was the case with Dreams Come true), licensing issues. Considering that two of the music composers (MichaelJackson and Brad Buxer) directly sampled songs from their respective discographies, the latter is the most likely. Some believe \\ \\ It's generally believed this is the reason why a Taxman[=/=]Stealth remaster seems like the first two ''Genesis'' games is unlikely, as Sega has only been able to release direct emulations of the original game or recoded versions with different music (as seen in the PC version).
8th Apr '15 2:19:39 AM KarjamP
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** There tends to be confusion as to why the original ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'' could not be locked in with ''Sonic & Knuckles''. The two most popular explanations are Knuckles would have dramatically altered the color pallet or that Knuckles gliding on conveyor belts in Scrap Brain Zone would cause the game to [[GameBreakingBug crash]]. Both of which were solved by the famous rom hack ''Knuckles in Sonic the Hedgehog 1''.
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** There tends to be confusion as to why the original ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'' could not be locked in with ''Sonic & Knuckles''. The two most popular explanations are Knuckles would have dramatically altered the color pallet or that Knuckles gliding on conveyor belts in Scrap Brain Zone would cause the game to [[GameBreakingBug crash]]. Both of which were solved by the famous rom ROM hack ''Knuckles in Sonic the Hedgehog 1''.1'' as well as any future ROM hacks starring characters other than Sonic.
27th Mar '15 10:52:01 AM WaxingName
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* FanRemake: ''Sonic 3 Complete'' is a fairly well-known hack that polishes the game in areas that the official ''Sonic 3 & Knuckles'' didn't (fixing glitches, giving Super Sonic actual sprites for certain things) as well as allowing several option like choosing the different tracks between ''Sonic 3'' or ''Sonic & Knuckles'' and allowing the ability to play ''Sonic 3'' or ''Sonic & Knuckles'' standalone in the same game. It also added some goodies like restoring the original level order (Flying Battery after Carnival Night), and the option to do the Super Peel-Out from ''Sonic CD''. For more extras, you can even create IPS patches that change the game even further, such as changing Sonic back to his ''Sonic 1'' and ''Sonic 2'' sprites, with new sprites to accommodate them for all of the actions he could only do in ''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''.
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* FanRemake: ''Sonic 3 Complete'' is a fairly well-known hack that polishes the game in areas that the official ''Sonic 3 & Knuckles'' didn't (fixing glitches, giving Super Sonic actual sprites for certain things) as well as allowing several option like choosing the different tracks between ''Sonic 3'' or ''Sonic & Knuckles'' and allowing the ability to play ''Sonic 3'' or ''Sonic & Knuckles'' standalone in the same game. It also added some goodies like restoring the original beta level order (Flying Battery after Carnival Night), and the option to do the Super Peel-Out from ''Sonic CD''. For more extras, you can even create IPS patches that change the game even further, such as changing Sonic back to his ''Sonic 1'' and ''Sonic 2'' sprites, with new sprites to accommodate them for all of the actions he could only do in ''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''.
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