History Trivia / SherlockHolmes

17th Jan '17 6:47:45 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* BeamMeUpScotty: Subverted quite nicely - you really have to hand it to Granada for their cleverness.
** Holmes never once says "Elementary, my dear Watson." Instead, ''Watson'' says "Elementary, my dear ''Holmes''" teasingly at the end of "The Crooked Man".
** Jeremy Brett smokes the non-canonical calabash pipe ''only'' on the trek through the Swiss Alps. Remember that the duo left their luggage on the boat train in England, so Holmes was probably happy to take whatever pipe he could get.
** The deerstalker cap is only semi-canonical, as Sidney Paget was taking a bit of artistic liberty with Doyle's description of a country-bound Holmes. For the first time in the history of Sherlockian film and television, Sherlock Holmes did ''not'' wear a deerstalker in London - only a topper or homburg. Brett's Holmes wore the deerstalker in the country ONLY, but, even then, the solid grey cap looks more stylish than practical (considering the original use for the design).
** Entirely averted with the Inverness - Jeremy Brett never wore it on-screen. He wore frock coats and greatcoats, and, when he was in the country, he wore a [[BadassLongcoat light grey longcoat]].




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* WagTheDirector: Holmes kicks his cocaine habit in "The Devil's Foot" because Creator/JeremyBrett became concerned about the example the character was setting for younger viewers.[[note]]Instead Holmes buries a used cocaine syringe about an inch deep in the sands of a public beach.[[/note]] Though it should be noted that Holmes ''did'' eventually give up cocaine in the original stories, in ''The Missing Three-Quarter'', which this series did not adapt.
16th Jan '17 8:58:45 AM Ball7
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** In the adaption of ''The Eligible Bachelor'', the role of Lady Helene is played by Anna Calder-Marshall, the wife of David Burke. Unfortanly, the episode is filmed after Burke left the role of Watson.
14th Jan '17 8:58:55 PM SwampAdder
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** Nor did he ever cry, "Quick, Watson, the needle!" That phrase originates in Victor Herbert's comic operetta ''The Red Mill'', where it's used by a character who's ''impersonating'' Holmes.

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** Nor did he ever cry, "Quick, Watson, the needle!" That phrase originates in Victor Herbert's comic operetta ''The Red Mill'', where it's used by a character who's ''impersonating'' Holmes.probably comes from parodies of Gillette's 1899 stage play.



** Parodies of Sherlock Holmes stories often begin with "TheCaseOf...", but the titles of (most of) the original stories begin with "The Adventure Of..." instead. Only one story title ("A Case of Identity") even uses the word "case".

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** Parodies of Sherlock Holmes stories often begin with have titles in the form "TheCaseOf...", but the titles of (most of) the original actual stories begin with are in the form "The Adventure Of..." instead.". Only one story title ("A Case of Identity") even uses the word "case".
11th Jan '17 11:29:09 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* AwesomeDearBoy: Basil Rathbone on playing Sherlock Holmes:
-->"Ever since I was a boy and first got acquainted with the great detective I wanted to be like him ... To play such a character means as much to me as ten 'Hamlets'!"




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* PromotedFanboy: Basil Rathbone was a big fan of Holmes.
30th Nov '16 7:02:58 AM Morgenthaler
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!!The 2009 film
* AbilityOverAppearance: Robert Downey Jr. being cast as Holmes despite looking completely different from his descriptions in the stories.
* AuthorAppeal: Holmes and Watson manage to subdue Dredger with an arm bar and rear-naked choke, as director Guy Ritchie is a fan of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
* CastingGag: Geraldine James, who plays Mrs Hudson, had previously starred in an adaptation of ''Literature/TheHoundOfTheBaskervilles''.
* CreatorInJoke: A brief shot of an inn called 'The Punch Bowl' is visible. Guy Ritchie owns a pub called The Punch Bowl in Mayfair.
* CreditsGag: There are a couple, mostly in the juxtaposition of assorted credits with images from the film. The best of these is that the Costume Designer's credit appears with an image of the naked Holmes tied to a bed.
* DeletedScene: So, Irene never got around to trying to stab Holmes with a hair pin or kneeing him in the... meerschaum, eh?
* DyeingForYourArt: Downey did this movie in between the first two ''Film/IronMan'' movies. Look at how beefy Tony Stark is compared to how wire-thin Holmes is. That takes ''dedication''.
** Rob also was meticulous in making sure his accent was perfect for the character and historical period. As per Guy Ritchie's interview on ''Series/TopGear'', he succeeded.
*** It was perfect for modern perceptions, but it wasn't historically accurate. Historical British sounded much closer to modern Americans than modern Britons. It mainly revolves around [[http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/2047-americans-brits-accents.html rhotic speech]].
* FakeNationality: Quite a few examples.
** Holmes himself is played by Robert Downey Jr., making him a FakeBrit.
** Canadian actress Rachel [=McAdams=] plays the [[FakeAmerican American]] Irene Adler.
** Dredger, the large French man from the first movie, is actually French-Canadian.
** William Hope, a Canadian actor, played Standish, the American ambassador in the first film.
** Noomi Rapace, a Swedish actress, plays Simza, a French gypsy, though Rapace might have some Roma ancestry.
* FanNickname: Watson, due to being taller, thinner, younger and [[ShapedLikeItself more Jude Law]] than some previous portrayals, quickly became known as Hotson.
** Stephen Fry's version of Mycroft Holmes quickly took on the nickname "Frycroft".
* FandomNod: In the extended preview (aired during the ''Series/{{Monk}}'' series finale), there's yet another clip of the Holmes-Watson VitriolicBestBuds routine, then a cut to Adler going "They've been flirting like this for ''hours''." To the general public, a funny joke. To those aware of the Holmes/Watson-shipping fanbase, ''bloody hilarious''. As it happened, [[spoiler:this seems to have been a deleted scene referring to Watson's bickering with a boat captain.]]
* {{Jossed}}: Rumours circulated that Brad Pitt was in the running to play Moriarty in the second film. These were quickly denied, saying Pitt had never been considered.
* TheOtherDarrin: Jared Harris as Moriarty, in a way. Since, technically, he appeared always in shadow in the first movie and was played by Ed Tolputt in an uncredited role. In subsequent TV airings of the first film, as Jared Harris was brought in to re-dub Tolputt's lines to give it continuity with the second film.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Sienna Miller was in talks to star in the film, possibly as Mary. But when Jude Law was cast as Watson, this was quietly dropped - due to the couple's very public break-up when Law had an affair with their nanny.
** Sam Worthington and Colin Farrell were in talks to play Watson before Jude Law was cast.
17th Jun '16 5:39:42 PM jormis29
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* WordOfDante: Holmesian fanon (known amongst fans as The Game, since long before the existance of the internet) is varied and has many varied sources from many mediums. The three main sources, however, are William Stuart Baring-Gould's ''The annotated Sherlock Holmes'' and ''Sherlock Holmes of Baker Street'', and Leslie Klinger's ''The New Annotated Sherlock Holmes''.

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* WordOfDante: Holmesian fanon (known amongst fans as The Game, since long before the existance of the internet) is varied and has many varied sources from many mediums. The three main sources, however, are William Stuart Baring-Gould's ''The annotated Sherlock Holmes'' and ''Sherlock Holmes of Baker Street'', ''Literature/SherlockHolmesOfBakerStreet'', and Leslie Klinger's ''The New Annotated Sherlock Holmes''.
28th Apr '16 11:30:31 AM Morgenthaler
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* HeyItsThatGuy:
** [[Film/IronMan Tony Stark]] and [[Film/SkyCaptainAndTheWorldOfTomorrow Sky Captain]] team up to fight against the nefarious [[RocknRolla Archy]]. [[Film/MeanGirls Regina George]] guest stars.
*** Dredger is played Robert Maillet, who wrestled in WWE as the Interrogator and as Wrestling/{{Kurrgan}} from mid-1997 to early 1999.
*** Fans of ''TheTudors'' will recognise Lord Coward as Thomas Cranmner.
*** Essentially, [[Film/IronMan Tony Stark]] and [[Literature/ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents Lemony Snicket]] try to stop Mr. [[Series/{{Fringe}} David Robert Jones]] with the help of [[Film/WeddingCrashers Claire Cleary]].
*** Also, Flora, Holmes's fake fortune teller, is [[Film/PulpFiction Trudi]].
*** And [[Creator/StephenFry Mycroft Holmes]] is [[Series/{{Bones}} Gordon Gordon Wyatt]]
*** Moriarty is [[Series/MadMen Lane Pryce]].
*** [[Film/{{Aliens}} Lt. Gorman]] is the American ambassador.
*** One of the people who worked on the {{Overcrank}} in ''A Game of Shadows'' is Gavin Free, who is more well known with ''WebVideo/TheSlowMoGuys'' and Creator/RoosterTeeth's Creator/AchievementHunter.
*** Dr. Hoffmanstahl in ''Game of Shadows'' is played by [[RaidersOfTheLostArk Col. Dietrich]].



* HeyItsThatGuy: Both Creator/PeterCushing and Creator/ChristopherLee have portrayed the great detective with great acclaim in two separate occasions. Peter Cushing in particular has been considered amongst the best out of the more than 75 actors to have portrayed the character, which include the likes of Jeremy Brett, Basil Rathbone and Vasily Livanov, and was known to have an encyclopedic amount of Holmesian knowledge.
*** In the 2010 TheAsylum film, [[Series/{{Torchwood}} Ianto Jones]] is Holmes' faithful friend, biographer, and personal physician.
25th Apr '16 3:31:07 PM fearlessnikki
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* AuthorAppeal: Holmes and Watson manage to subdue Dredger with an arm bar and rear-naked choke, as director Guy Ritchie is a fan of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
* CastingGag: Geraldine James, who plays Mrs Hudson, had previously starred in an adaptation of ''Literature/TheHoundOfTheBaskervilles''.
* CreatorInJoke: A brief shot of an inn called 'The Punch Bowl' is visible. Guy Ritchie owns a pub called The Punch Bowl in Mayfair.



* HilariousInHindsight: Stephen Fry flirted with Hugh Laurie on ''Series/ABitOfFryAndLaurie''. Laurie went on to play Series/{{House}} (who was based very heavily on Holmes), and Stephen Fry went on to play Mycroft. [[{{Squick}} Does that make it incest?]]
* TheOtherDarrin: Jared Harris as Moriarty, in a way. Since, technically, he appeared always in shadow in the first movie and was played by Ed Tolputt in an uncredited role.
** Averted in subsequent TV airings of the first film, as it seems Jared Harris was brought in to re-dub Tolputt's lines to give it continuity with the second film.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Stephen Fry flirted with Hugh Laurie on ''Series/ABitOfFryAndLaurie''. Laurie went on {{Jossed}}: Rumours circulated that Brad Pitt was in the running to play Series/{{House}} (who was based very heavily on Holmes), and Stephen Fry went on to play Mycroft. [[{{Squick}} Does that make it incest?]]
Moriarty in the second film. These were quickly denied, saying Pitt had never been considered.
* TheOtherDarrin: Jared Harris as Moriarty, in a way. Since, technically, he appeared always in shadow in the first movie and was played by Ed Tolputt in an uncredited role.
** Averted in
role. In subsequent TV airings of the first film, as it seems Jared Harris was brought in to re-dub Tolputt's lines to give it continuity with the second film.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Sienna Miller was in talks to star in the film, possibly as Mary. But when Jude Law was cast as Watson, this was quietly dropped - due to the couple's very public break-up when Law had an affair with their nanny.
** Sam Worthington and Colin Farrell were in talks to play Watson before Jude Law was cast.
22nd Jan '16 10:28:16 PM nombretomado
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*** And [[StephenFry Mycroft Holmes]] is [[Series/{{Bones}} Gordon Gordon Wyatt]]

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*** And [[StephenFry [[Creator/StephenFry Mycroft Holmes]] is [[Series/{{Bones}} Gordon Gordon Wyatt]]
9th Dec '15 10:23:44 AM Berrenta
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* InternetCounterattack: ''Holy damn'', the reactions to Holmes's death in "The Final Problem." The Strand's subscription rate dropping tremendously, thousands and thousands of hate mail for Doyle, Doyle getting attacked in the street numerous times, young women wearing black, men wearing black armbands, Prince Bertie expressing outrage, Conan Doyle's mother complaning and there were even rumors of ''Queen Victoria'' herself among the people who disliked Doyle's decision.
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