History Trivia / Se7en

15th Nov '17 3:57:00 PM smasll_lordvoice
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** The man who was forced by John Doe at gunpoint to rape the Lust victim to death is disturbed to the point of hyperventilating. The actor who played him, Creator/LelandOrser, sat himself in a corner, breathing very quickly in order to induce hyperventilation in himself to keep his performance authentic.

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** The man who was forced by John Doe at gunpoint to rape the Lust victim to death is disturbed to the point of hyperventilating. The actor who played him, Creator/LelandOrser, sat himself in a corner, breathing very quickly in order to induce hyperventilation in himself to keep his performance authentic. He also stayed up for two straight nights before filming in order to seem believably exhausted and stressed out.


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* SerendipityWritesThePlot: Originally, New Line Cinema [[ExecutiveMeddling had no intention of using]] Andrew Kevin Walker's first draft the infamous DownerEnding originated, and Walker reluctantly went along with it. However, when contacting David Fincher, they actually sent him the wrong version of the script - i.e., Walker's original vision. which was faithfully adapted into the film itself. Fincher read it, loved it, and joined the production, and then refused to change the ending when the executives objected.
20th Oct '17 10:54:50 AM ClintEastwood
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** Andrew Kevin Walker wrote the screenplay with Creator/WilliamHurt as Somerset in mind. Creator/AlPacino was offered the role, but he was busy with ''City Hall''.

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** Andrew Kevin Walker wrote the screenplay with Creator/WilliamHurt as Somerset in mind. Creator/AlPacino was offered the role, but he was busy with ''City Hall''. Creator/GeneHackman turned it down because of the night shoots involved. Creator/HarrisonFord was also considered.
9th Oct '17 7:19:16 AM ClintEastwood
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* DyeingForYourArt: Creator/KevinSpacey shaved his head to play John Doe. On the condition that Creator/DavidFincher do so as well.



** Andrew Kevin Walker wrote the screenplay with Creator/WilliamHurt as Somerset in mind. Creator/DenzelWashington, Creator/KevinCostner, Creator/SylvesterStallone and Creator/NicolasCage were all considered to play David Mills (Washington refused the role, finding the content of the screenplay too disturbing, and specifically expressed regret at not accepting the role after attending a screening). RLeeErmey originally auditioned for the part of John Doe and R.E.M.'s frontman Michael Stipe was also considered for the role.

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** Andrew Kevin Walker wrote the screenplay with Creator/WilliamHurt as Somerset in mind. Creator/AlPacino was offered the role, but he was busy with ''City Hall''.
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Creator/DenzelWashington, Creator/KevinCostner, Creator/SylvesterStallone and Creator/NicolasCage were all considered to play David Mills (Washington refused the role, finding the content of the screenplay too disturbing, and specifically expressed regret at not accepting the role after attending a screening). RLeeErmey screening).
** Creator/RLeeErmey
originally auditioned for the part of John Doe and R.E.M.'s frontman [[Music/{{REM}} Michael Stipe Stipe]] was also considered for the role.role. Creator/ValKilmer was also offered the role, and he recommended Creator/KevinSpacey.
8th Aug '17 3:01:51 PM mouschilight
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* ExecutiveMeddling: Somerset's Hemingway quote at the end of the film was a sop to producers complaining about the film's extremely dark ending. Fincher's original plan was to have the film cut or fade to black immediately after Mills shoots Doe in the head.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: Somerset's Hemingway Creator/ErnestHemingway quote at the end of the film was a sop to producers complaining about the film's extremely dark ending. Fincher's Creator/DavidFincher's original plan was to have the film cut or fade to black immediately after Mills shoots Doe in the head.



** The actor who played the Sloth victim weighed 96 pounds at his audition, and the director joked that he could have the part if he dropped another ten. Much to the director's surprise--and horror--he dropped six.
** The man who was forced by John Doe at gunpoint to rape the Lust victim to death is disturbed to the point of hyperventilating; the actor sat himself in a corner, breathing very quickly in order to induce hyperventilation in himself to keep his performance authentic.

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** The actor who played the Sloth victim (Michael Reid [=MacKay=]) weighed 96 pounds lbs. at his audition, and the director Creator/DavidFincher joked that he could have the part if he dropped another ten. Much to the director's surprise--and horror--he Fincher's surprise and horror, [=MacKay=] dropped six.
** The man who was forced by John Doe at gunpoint to rape the Lust victim to death is disturbed to the point of hyperventilating; the hyperventilating. The actor who played him, Creator/LelandOrser, sat himself in a corner, breathing very quickly in order to induce hyperventilation in himself to keep his performance authentic.



* RealLifeRelative: Morgan Freeman's son Alonso has a small cameo as the fingerprint technician.

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* RealLifeRelative: Morgan Freeman's Creator/MorganFreeman's son Alonso Alfonso has a small cameo as the fingerprint technician.



** Brad Pitt broke his arm filming the scene in which he chases John Doe. Although [[{{Irony}} the script required a (probably minor) injury]], the cast and such were written into the film.
** Mills' mispronounciation of the Creator/MarquisDeSade's name (see ItsPronouncedTropay on the Film page) was an ad-lib by Brad Pitt. The first time he did it, Morgan Freeman laughed out loud and said "Even Mills isn't ''that'' stupid!" Clearly, Fincher disagreed.

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** Brad Pitt Creator/BradPitt broke his arm filming the scene in which he chases John Doe. Although [[{{Irony}} the script required a (probably minor) injury]], the cast and such were written into the film.
** Mills' mispronounciation of the Creator/MarquisDeSade's name (see ItsPronouncedTropay ItIsPronouncedTroPAY on the Film page) was an ad-lib by Brad Pitt. Creator/BradPitt. The first time he did it, Morgan Freeman Creator/MorganFreeman laughed out loud and said "Even Mills isn't ''that'' that stupid!" Clearly, Fincher Creator/DavidFincher disagreed.



** When the movie was first pitched to execs, they had the screenwriter revise the film so it would be more marketable (happier ending, not as bleak etc.). But when they sent the script to David Fincher, they accidentally sent him the original script instead of the revised one. Before they could correct their mistake, David Fincher refused to make this film if the revised script was used.
* WrittenInInfirmity: After Brad Pitt severed a tendon in his hand, scenes were added to show why his character was wearing a cast.

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** When the movie was first pitched to execs, they had the screenwriter revise the film so it would be more marketable (happier ending, not as bleak etc.). But when they sent the script to David Fincher, Creator/DavidFincher, they accidentally sent him the original script instead of the revised one. Before they could correct their mistake, David Fincher refused to make this film if the revised script was used.
* WrittenInInfirmity: After Brad Pitt Creator/BradPitt severed a tendon in his hand, scenes were added to show why his character was wearing a cast.
27th Jul '17 7:36:51 AM Morgenthaler
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* PlayingAgainstType: RLeeErmey, the DrillSergeantNasty ''par excellence'', plays a mellow and soft-spoken police captain.

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* PlayingAgainstType: RLeeErmey, Creator/RLeeErmey, the DrillSergeantNasty ''par excellence'', plays a mellow and soft-spoken police captain.
27th Jul '17 7:36:40 AM Morgenthaler
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* ThrowItIn: Brad Pitt broke his arm filming the scene in which he chases John Doe. Although [[{{Irony}} the script required a (probably minor) injury]], the cast and such were written into the film.

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Brad Pitt broke his arm filming the scene in which he chases John Doe. Although [[{{Irony}} the script required a (probably minor) injury]], the cast and such were written into the film.
27th Jul '17 7:34:22 AM Morgenthaler
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* FollowTheLeader: Compare it with later ThemeSerialKiller flicks like ''Resurrection''[[note]]A ''blatant'' rip-off starring Christopher Lambert and Leland Orser (who also played the man forced by John Doe at gunpoint to rape the Lust victim to death)[[/note]], ''Film/TakingLives'', ''Film/{{Anamorph}}'', ''Film/{{Horsemen}}'', ''WΔZ'', ''Film/SuspectZero'' or ''Franchise/{{Saw}}''. Of course that's not to say ''[=Se7en=]'' didn't borrow some elements from ''Film/TheSilenceOfTheLambs'' (and, for that matter, ''Film/TheAbominableDrPhibes''...).

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* FollowTheLeader: Compare it with later ThemeSerialKiller flicks like ''Resurrection''[[note]]A ''Film/{{Resurrection}}''[[note]]A ''blatant'' rip-off starring Christopher Lambert Creator/ChristopherLambert and Leland Orser (who also played the man forced by John Doe at gunpoint to rape the Lust victim to death)[[/note]], ''Film/TakingLives'', ''Film/{{Anamorph}}'', ''Film/{{Horsemen}}'', ''WΔZ'', ''Film/SuspectZero'' or ''Franchise/{{Saw}}''. Of course that's not to say ''[=Se7en=]'' didn't borrow some elements from ''Film/TheSilenceOfTheLambs'' (and, for that matter, ''Film/TheAbominableDrPhibes''...).
17th Feb '17 3:22:55 PM thevideogameempire
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* DoingItForTheArt: All of the books in John Doe's apartment? They're ''all real.'' One of the special effects companies hired for the film spent two months ''hand-writing every single one of them''. Mostly by [[CrazyAwesome one guy]] who showed exceptional talent at writing journals like a crazy insane sociopath. He even included an authentic suicide note..

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* DoingItForTheArt: All of the books in John Doe's apartment? They're ''all real.'' One of the special effects companies hired for the film spent two months ''hand-writing every single one of them''. Mostly by [[CrazyAwesome one guy]] who showed exceptional talent at writing journals like a crazy insane sociopath. He even included an authentic suicide note..note.
23rd Jan '17 9:34:38 PM creader
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* FollowTheLeader: Compare it with later ThemeSerialKiller flicks like ''Resurrection''[[note]]A ''blatant'' rip-off starring Christopher Lambert and Leland Orser (who also played the man forced by John Doe at gunpoint to rape the Lust victim to death)[[/note]], ''Film/TakingLives'', ''Film/{{Anamorph}}'', ''Film/{{Horsemen}}'', ''WΔZ'', ''Film/SuspectZero'' or ''Franchise/{{Saw}}''. Of course that's not to say ''[=Se7en=]'' didn't borrow some elements from ''Film/TheSilenceOfTheLambs'' (and, for that matter, ''Film/TheAbominableDrPhibes''...).
24th Aug '16 3:37:45 AM Morgenthaler
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* HeyItsThatGuy: The Sloth victim is also [[Film/BatmanAndRobin Bane]] (without drugs) and [[Film/XMen2 Jason Stryker]]. Also the Mummy in ''Film/TheMonsterSquad''.
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