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21st May '16 3:06:28 AM erforce
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** Director Allusion: this is another Renny Harlin film where a character keeps a gun [[Film/TheLongKissGoodnight stored between his legs]].

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** Director Allusion: this is another Renny Harlin Creator/RennyHarlin film where a character keeps a gun [[Film/TheLongKissGoodnight stored between his legs]].



* CreatorCameo: Renny Harlin as a mannequin in a phone booth later in the film. Also the people on the Wanted posters are members of the film's art department.
* CreatorKiller: This and ''Film/ExorcistTheBeginning'' both bombed to kill Renny Harlin's career as a mainstream director. He would not make another film for two years until ''Film/TheCovenant'', which only pushed him further to directing B-movies that did middling business.

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* CreatorCameo: Renny Harlin as a mannequin in a phone booth later in the film. Also the people on the Wanted posters are members of the film's art department.
* CreatorKiller: This and ''Film/ExorcistTheBeginning'' both bombed to kill Renny Harlin's Creator/RennyHarlin's career as a mainstream director. He would not make another film for two years until ''Film/TheCovenant'', which only pushed him further to directing B-movies that did middling business.



** Renny Harlin edited down much of the violence and gore in order to get a PG-13 rating. The film was still rated R anyway, so he re-inserted the scenes that had been censored.

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** Renny Harlin Creator/RennyHarlin edited down much of the violence and gore in order to get a PG-13 rating. The film was still rated R anyway, so he re-inserted the scenes that had been censored.
14th May '16 4:30:30 PM fearlessnikki
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* ActorAllusion: Christian Slater previously played a JD in ''{{Film/Heathers}}''.

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Christian Slater previously played a JD in ''{{Film/Heathers}}''.''{{Film/Heathers}}''.
** Director Allusion: this is another Renny Harlin film where a character keeps a gun [[Film/TheLongKissGoodnight stored between his legs]].


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* ChannelHop: The movie's distribution rights changed from 20th Century Fox to Dimension Films, resulting in America being the last country to receive it - several months after it had been released everywhere.


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* CreatorKiller: This and ''Film/ExorcistTheBeginning'' both bombed to kill Renny Harlin's career as a mainstream director. He would not make another film for two years until ''Film/TheCovenant'', which only pushed him further to directing B-movies that did middling business.


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* FakeAmerican: Lucas is an American, played by British Jonny Lee Miller. Elsewhere averted, with the rest of the non-Americans playing characters their own nationality - British for Will Kemp and Venezuelan for Patricia Velasquez.


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** Renny Harlin edited down much of the violence and gore in order to get a PG-13 rating. The film was still rated R anyway, so he re-inserted the scenes that had been censored.
28th Apr '16 12:24:23 AM Morgenthaler
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* [[HeyItsThatGuy Hey It's That Guy]]: All over the place--
** [[Film/BatmanForever Batman]] is training profilers for the FBI.
** [[NamesTheSame J.D.]] is now trying to solve crimes [[Film/{{Heathers}} rather than committing them]]. [[spoiler:He dies first.]]
** [[Series/{{Dexter}} Jordan Chase]]/[[Literature/{{Trainspotting}} Sick Boy]] is [[spoiler:the killer.]]
** [[Film/{{Capote}} Perry Smith]] is still very fond of guns.
** [[Series/BandOfBrothers Private David Webster]] is once again one of the smart ones.
** [[Series/ColdCase Lily Rush]] actually [[spoiler:gets to live]].
** [[Film/VanHelsing The Wolfman]] is the sole Brit.
** [[Film/TheMummyTrilogy Ankh Su Namun]] is reincarnated yet again. [[spoiler: The God Anubis was (''again'') not smiling upon her.]]
1st Mar '16 3:08:59 AM fearlessnikki
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Budget? $27 million. Worldwide gross? $21 million.



* CreatorCameo: Renny Harlin as a mannequin in a phone booth later in the film.

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* CreatorCameo: Renny Harlin as a mannequin in a phone booth later in the film. Also the people on the Wanted posters are members of the film's art department.



* DyeingForYourArt: LL Cool J dropped 40 pounds to star in this film. Val Kilmer is a strange case. He was to star in ''Wonderland'' next and required to have his hair long. He agreed to do this film if he could grow his hair for it. Cliffton Collins Jr spent ages in a wheelchair and working with a doctor to accurately portray someone with a disability.

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* DyeingForYourArt: LL Cool J dropped 40 pounds to star in this film. Val Kilmer is a strange case. He was to star in ''Wonderland'' next and required to have his hair long. He agreed to do this film if he could grow his hair for it. Cliffton Collins Jr spent ages in a wheelchair and working with a doctor to accurately portray someone with a disability. All the cast also went through training with FBI and military personnel to prepare.
* FunnyCharacterBoringActor: Bobby is the DeadpanSnarker of the group. Creator/EionBailey is usually very quiet and reserved in interviews.



* ManipulativeEditing: In the scene where Gabe describes each character - where Bobby is playing with the Rubik's Cube - Sarah was originally filmed sitting outside by the pool. Notice how close-ups are only used of Sarah in the scene - showing she was added in later.

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* ManipulativeEditing: In the Gabe's EstablishingCharacterMoment scene where Gabe describes each character - where Bobby is playing with everyone on the Rubik's Cube - island. Note how Sarah only appears in close-ups? The scene was originally filmed with her outside, sitting outside by the pool. Notice how close-ups are only used of Sarah in the scene - showing But she was added in later. later, with a couple of close-ups to pretend she was in the room with the others.
* MissingTrailerScene: Done intentionally. In the trailer the threatening voice over that plays is distorted. This was to preserve the twist [[spoiler: that Harris appears to be the killer. Val Kilmer's voice is heard in the final film]].


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* VacationDearBoy: The film was made in Amsterdam, and the director joked that it was hard to make sure the cast all showed up for work - as they were having rather a lot of fun in the city.
18th Dec '15 1:41:08 PM fearlessnikki
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* CreatorCameo: Renny Harlin as a mannequin in a phone booth later in the film.
* DeletedScene:
** One playing up Sarah's vulnerability much more - where she'd be seen behind a desk, after cracking under pressure during a field assignment.
** A scene in Harris's office where he chews out Sarah and JD for their bad performances. It helps foreshadow Sarah's possible motive to be the killer.
** At dawn a helicopter begins circling an FBI facility aggressively, before Gabe and Harris begin speaking. Also the students rappel out of the copter to get onto the island.


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* ManipulativeEditing: In the scene where Gabe describes each character - where Bobby is playing with the Rubik's Cube - Sarah was originally filmed sitting outside by the pool. Notice how close-ups are only used of Sarah in the scene - showing she was added in later.


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** The water title sequence was filmed to be used as a flashback to Sarah's near-drowning experience. After production was over, it was re-edited to serve as the opening titles.
** Several different endings were filmed, including [[spoiler: Harris turning up alive and Gabe killing Lucas instead of Sarah]].
* WordOfGod: Rafe Perry, the coffee junkie, was an "English lend-out to the FBI" according to the director.
18th Dec '15 6:21:11 AM fearlessnikki
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* ActorAllusion: Christian Slater previously played a JD in ''{{Film/Heathers}}''.
* CaliforniaDoubling: Filmed in the Netherlands of all places.
* DisabledCharacterDisabledActor: Averted with Vince. See below.
* DyeingForYourArt: LL Cool J dropped 40 pounds to star in this film. Val Kilmer is a strange case. He was to star in ''Wonderland'' next and required to have his hair long. He agreed to do this film if he could grow his hair for it. Cliffton Collins Jr spent ages in a wheelchair and working with a doctor to accurately portray someone with a disability.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Creator/RyanPhillippe was also considered to play Lucas. Phillippe's then-wife Creator/ReeseWitherspoon was offered the role of Sara Moore, while Creator/ChristopherWalken, Creator/MartinSheen and Creator/GaryBusey passed on the part of Jake Harris.

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Creator/RyanPhillippe was also considered to play Lucas. Phillippe's then-wife Creator/ReeseWitherspoon was offered the role of Sara Moore, while Creator/ChristopherWalken, Creator/MartinSheen and Creator/GaryBusey passed on the part of Jake Harris.Harris.
** The film's original title was 'Unsub' - after a term used by FBI agents referring to an unknown subject (which is spoken a few times in the film). The studio wasn't happy with the title and changed it. The screenwriter was never happy with the change, given that there was already a book called ''Mind Hunter''.
22nd May '15 2:46:54 PM Morgenthaler
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** [[{{Capote}} Perry Smith]] is still very fond of guns.

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** [[{{Capote}} [[Film/{{Capote}} Perry Smith]] is still very fond of guns.
25th Sep '14 8:15:51 PM Dancedom
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* TheOtherMarty: Creator/GerardButler was going to play Lucas Harper, but dropped out to do ''Literature/{{Timeline}}''. Jonny Lee Miller was then cast in his place.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Creator/RyanPhillippe was also considered to play Lucas. Phillippe's then-wife Creator/ReeseWitherspoon was offered the role of Sara Moore, while Creator/ChristopherWalken, Creator/MartinSheen and Creator/GaryBusey passed on the part of Jake Harris.
4th Sep '13 4:45:45 PM W43
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** [[Film/TheMummyTrilogy Ankh Su Namun]] is reincarnated yet again. [[spoiler: The God Anubis was not smiling upon her.]]

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** [[Film/TheMummyTrilogy Ankh Su Namun]] is reincarnated yet again. [[spoiler: The God Anubis was (''again'') not smiling upon her.]]
26th Mar '13 8:00:50 PM Morgenthaler
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** [[NamesTheSame J.D.]] is now trying to solve crimes [[{{Heathers}} rather than committing them]]. [[spoiler:He dies first.]]
** [[{{Dexter}} Jordan Chase]]/[[Literature/{{Trainspotting}} Sick Boy]] is [[spoiler:the killer.]]

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** [[NamesTheSame J.D.]] is now trying to solve crimes [[{{Heathers}} [[Film/{{Heathers}} rather than committing them]]. [[spoiler:He dies first.]]
** [[{{Dexter}} [[Series/{{Dexter}} Jordan Chase]]/[[Literature/{{Trainspotting}} Sick Boy]] is [[spoiler:the killer.]]
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