History Trivia / MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater

18th Jul '16 4:02:45 AM PF
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** During the scene where Snake and EVA where hiding in a mountain bolthole, when EVA leaned in to kiss Snake, he pulled back. This was because Snake's motion capture actor for the scene wasn't used to doing love scenes and pulled back because he was nervous. Kojima, believing this was in character for Snake, decided to keep the scene in, and fondly remembers this as one of his favorite touches in the game.

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** During the scene where Snake and EVA where are hiding in a mountain bolthole, when EVA leaned leans in to kiss Snake, he pulled pulls back. This was because Snake's motion capture actor for the scene wasn't used to doing love scenes and pulled back because he was nervous. Kojima, believing this was in character for Snake, decided to keep the scene in, and fondly remembers this as one of his favorite touches in the game.
18th Jul '16 4:00:51 AM PF
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* ThrowItIn: Kojima wanted to use a piece of licensed music for the closing credits, and a colleague of his suggested he listen to the band stellastarr*. He misheard this as "Starsailor", and liked the track "Way to Fall", which ended up being used.

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Kojima wanted to use a piece of licensed music for the closing credits, and a colleague of his suggested he listen to the band stellastarr*. He misheard this as "Starsailor", and liked the track "Way to Fall", which ended up being used.
29th Jun '16 7:57:50 PM sethryan44
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* EnforcedMethodActing: During the scene where Snake and EVA where hiding in a mountain bolthole, when EVA leaned in to kiss Snake, he pulled back. This was because Snake's motion capture actor for the scene wasn't used to doing love scenes and pulled back because he was nervous. Kojima, believing this was in character for Snake, decided to keep the scene in, and fondly remembers this as one of his favorite touches in the game.


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**During the scene where Snake and EVA where hiding in a mountain bolthole, when EVA leaned in to kiss Snake, he pulled back. This was because Snake's motion capture actor for the scene wasn't used to doing love scenes and pulled back because he was nervous. Kojima, believing this was in character for Snake, decided to keep the scene in, and fondly remembers this as one of his favorite touches in the game.
5th Jun '16 3:27:45 AM PF
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** Kojima and Creator/AkioOhtsuka proposed the idea of having the game be voiced in ''Russian''. By the ''Japanese voice cast''. Ohtsuka was so enthusiastic about the idea, he went for Russian lessons. The rest of the cast shot them down. Interestingly, he decided to revisit this idea and use actual Russian in ''Metal Gear Solid V''.

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** Kojima and Creator/AkioOhtsuka Akio Ohtsuka proposed the idea of having the game be voiced in ''Russian''. By the ''Japanese voice cast''. Ohtsuka was so enthusiastic about the idea, he went for Russian lessons. The rest of the cast shot them down. Interestingly, he decided to revisit this idea and use actual Russian in ''Metal Gear Solid V''.''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain''.
5th Jun '16 3:25:27 AM PF
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* IKnewIt: [[spoiler: Why would a hero whose motto is "loyalty to the end" betray her country? She says it herself near the beginning: "I didn't." That she's a FakeDefector never really crosses Snake's mind, but everyone playing the game expected that to be the case. That it doesn't turn out okay for The Boss in the end... that's the ''real'' nasty twist.]]
4th Jun '16 5:35:34 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ArtisticLicenseBiology:
** The Pain doesn't seem that sure if his pets are bees or hornets. The two species don't exactly get along. Unless the strangled cry of "my HORNETS!" [[UnusualEuphemism refers to something else altogether]].
** There's also plenty of made up plants and animals: For example, there's no such thing as a Baltic Hornet (hornets can't make honey) and there is no golova fruit (although, it's based off of a real fruit called a jackfruit).
* ArtisticLicenseGeography:
** Good luck finding any tropical jungles ''anywhere'' in the former Soviet Union, not to mention the ludicrous variety of animals housed in it. The [[JustifiedTrope justification]] is that the animals were brought into the jungle from other regions by the scientists for research purposes, and the jungle setting is there mostly to trick people playing the pre-release demo.
** Despite the game saying it's a "jungle", it looks more like what's called a ''mixed forest'', which the Soviet Union did have, for instance the Caspian Hyrcanian zone in Azerbaijan. Also, there actually are pockets of lush forest right next to arid mountain regions in areas of Tajikistan (where the game is suggested to take place) like the Varzob region. The mountainous areas later in the game also resemble the lower ranges of the Tian Shan mountains in Krygyzistan.
* ArtisticLicenseEconomics: The Philosophers' Legacy consists of enough money to fight the Second World War ''five times over''. The economic repercussions of putting this much money aside and then ''losing'' it would have been huge. The next game does somewhat deals with the economic repercussions.




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** Early press releases stated that the player would be able to set traps for enemy soldiers, similar to the traps that the player must negotiate in the game. Also, there wouldn't be prescribed paths through the jungle, allowing for more freedom in navigation. These features were cut when the [=PS2=] was found to be unable to process these.
26th Apr '16 9:09:23 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* HeyItsThatVoice:
** It seems [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Diane Simmons]] decided to become a reporter in Quahog after Big Boss killed her. Also, Volgin's Japanese voice actor, Creator/KenjiUtsumi, previously voiced Commander Red in ''Manga/DragonBall'' and Raoh in ''[[Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar Hokuto no Ken]]'', making it his third role as a military despot. EVA's voice actress, although her alias names her as Suzetta Miñet, sounds a bit too similar to the voice actress of [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid a certain redhead mermaid in a Disney film]], although some fans think she may have also been Creator/DebiMaeWest even after an in-house interview confirmed that she wasn't Miñet.
** Colonel Volgin, The Fear, and The Pain are voiced by ''G.I. Joe'' veterans Neil Ross, Creator/MichaelBell, and Creator/GreggBerger, respectively.
** Colonel Campbell's seiyuu provided Dr. Emmett Brown's voice in the Japanese dub of ''Franchise/BackToTheFuture'', [[ActorAllusion Time Paradox]] indeed.
** The Boss voiced [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory3 Bonnie's mom]] as well.
** Creator/JimWard ([[VideoGame/ResidentEvil4 Jack Krauser]]) may have had a brief stint as a Soviet researcher who developed the Metal Gear weapons line.
** In Japan, [[Creator/KikukoInoue The Boss]] is basically what happens when [[Manga/AhMyGoddess Belldandy]] [[TookALevelInBadass takes massive levels in badass]].
** [[WesternAnimation/AaahhRealMonsters The Gromble]] and [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX Jecht]] voice The Pain here in English.
** Raikov in English is Franchise/TheFlash, and likewise Ocelot in English is [[WesternAnimation/GreenLanternTheAnimatedSeries Hal Jordan]].
** ''The Fury'' attacks someone he'll ''become'' about [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots fifty years down the line]]. Talk about a mind screw.
** Seems like after he reunited the two worlds, [[Creator/ScottMenville Lloyd]] [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia Irving]] defected to the Soviet Union and became an Ocelot soldier, a scientist ''and'' a radio operator who calls off the [=MiGs=] at the end.
26th Mar '16 3:20:58 PM PF
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** Likewise, Volgin shares some traits with Raoh, including unusual powers and being military dictators. Both Volgin and Raoh were voiced by Creator/KenjiUtsumi. Also, this wasn't the only time Utsumi played [[Manga/DragonBall a tyrannical leader of an army with the word "Red" and "Army" in it.]]
** And furthermore, for the Japanese version of the game at least, the comical NonStandardGameOver messages from Colonel Campbell (when he berates you for creating a TimeParadox via killing Ocelot, EVA or Sokolov) is an allusion to Creator/TakeshiAono voicing Doc Emmett Brown in the Japanese dub of the ''Franchise/BackToTheFuture'' movies.

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** Likewise, Volgin shares some traits with Raoh, including unusual powers and being military dictators. Both Volgin and Raoh were voiced by Creator/KenjiUtsumi. Also, this wasn't the only time Utsumi played [[Manga/DragonBall a tyrannical leader of an army with the word "Red" and "Army" in it.]]
** And furthermore, for In the Japanese version of the game at least, game, the comical NonStandardGameOver messages from Colonel Campbell (when he berates you for creating a TimeParadox via killing Ocelot, EVA or Sokolov) is an allusion to Creator/TakeshiAono voicing Doc Emmett Brown in the Japanese dub of the ''Franchise/BackToTheFuture'' movies.



** The ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots Metal Gear Solid 4]]'' trailer also takes a potshot at Raiden, with the crowd booing heavily when he unmasks himself and his getting royally creamed by Snake during their fight for the main character chair.

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** The ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots Metal ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 4]]'' 4|GunsOfThePatriots}}'' trailer also takes a potshot at Raiden, with the crowd booing heavily when he unmasks himself and his getting royally creamed by Snake during their fight for the main character chair.



* EnforcedMethodActing: During the scene where Snake and EVA where hiding in a mountain bolthole, when EVA leaned in to kiss Snake, he pulled back. This was because Snake's motion actor for the scene was unusued to love scenes and pulled back because he was nervous. Kojima, believing this was in character for Snake, decided to keep the scene in, and fondly remembers this as one of his favorite touches in the game.

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* EnforcedMethodActing: During the scene where Snake and EVA where hiding in a mountain bolthole, when EVA leaned in to kiss Snake, he pulled back. This was because Snake's motion capture actor for the scene was unusued wasn't used to doing love scenes and pulled back because he was nervous. Kojima, believing this was in character for Snake, decided to keep the scene in, and fondly remembers this as one of his favorite touches in the game.



* ScrewedByTheLawyers: Why the [[VideoGame/ApeEscape Snake vs. Monkey]] minigame isn't in the 3DS and HD versions. Sony Computer Entertainment created, and owns the rights to ''Ape Escape'', killing any chance the minigame has of being on other consoles by default.[[note]]Though that doesn't quite explain its absence in the UsefulNotes/PlayStation3 and [[UsefulNotes/PlayStationVita Vita]] versions, except [[TheyJustDidntCare not wanting to bother putting extra effort into one version]].[[/note]]

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* ScrewedByTheLawyers: Why the [[VideoGame/ApeEscape Snake vs. Monkey]] minigame isn't in the 3DS and HD versions. Sony Computer Entertainment created, created and owns the rights to ''Ape Escape'', killing any chance the minigame has of being on other consoles by default.[[note]]Though that doesn't quite explain its absence in the UsefulNotes/PlayStation3 and [[UsefulNotes/PlayStationVita Vita]] versions, except [[TheyJustDidntCare not wanting to bother putting extra effort into one version]].[[/note]]



** Related to the above, the credits theme was originally planned to be Music/DavidBowie's "Space Oddity" and "Ashes to Ashes" when space development was originally one of the game's main themes.

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** Related to the above, the The credits theme was originally planned to be Music/DavidBowie's "Space Oddity" and "Ashes to Ashes" when space development was originally one of the game's main themes.



** Kojima and Creator/AkioOhtsuka proposed the idea of having the game be voiced in ''Russian''. By the ''Japanese voice cast''. Ohtsuka was so enthusiastic about the idea, he went for Russian lessons. The rest of the cast shot them down. Interestingly, he decided to revisit this idea and use actual Russian in Metal Gear Solid V.

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** Kojima and Creator/AkioOhtsuka proposed the idea of having the game be voiced in ''Russian''. By the ''Japanese voice cast''. Ohtsuka was so enthusiastic about the idea, he went for Russian lessons. The rest of the cast shot them down. Interestingly, he decided to revisit this idea and use actual Russian in Metal ''Metal Gear Solid V.V''.
26th Mar '16 5:41:32 AM Inertial_mass
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** Kojima looked at replacing Creator/DavidHayter as Snake with Creator/KurtRussell, who ultimately passed. Interestingly, Solid Snake was original based on Russel's character from Film/EscapeFromNewYork.

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** Kojima looked at replacing Creator/DavidHayter as Snake with Creator/KurtRussell, who ultimately passed. Interestingly, Solid Snake was original based on Russel's Russell's character from Film/EscapeFromNewYork.
''Film/EscapeFromNewYork''.
26th Mar '16 5:39:33 AM Inertial_mass
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* It was originally intended that Colonel Volgin actually ''murdered'' his father which resulted in his inheriting the Philosophers' Legacy by consequence (thus making him a SelfMadeOrphan). However, the still that had him murdering his father was cut from the final version. Had it been kept, it should be noted that his reasons for murdering his dad most likely had nothing to do with the Legacy, as he himself admitted that he didn't even know about the Legacy's existence, or even that his father had it, until after his father's demise.

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* ** It was originally intended that Colonel Volgin actually ''murdered'' his father which resulted in his inheriting the Philosophers' Legacy by consequence (thus making him a SelfMadeOrphan). However, the still that had him murdering his father was cut from the final version. Had it been kept, it should be noted that his reasons for murdering his dad most likely had nothing to do with the Legacy, as he himself admitted that he didn't even know about the Legacy's existence, or even that his father had it, until after his father's demise.
** Kojima looked at replacing Creator/DavidHayter as Snake with Creator/KurtRussell, who ultimately passed. Interestingly, Solid Snake was original based on Russel's character from Film/EscapeFromNewYork.
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