History Trivia / LoveNeverDies

* GeniusBonus: To those familiar with the [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/ThePhantomOfTheOpera2004 2004 movie]] or have heard his name mentioned briefly in a few performances of the musical, Christine's father was named 'Gustave', [[DeadGuyJunior hence the name of her son]].

* GeniusBonus: To those familiar with the [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/ThePhantomOfTheOpera2004 2004 movie]] or have heard his name mentioned briefly in a few performances of the musical, Christine's father was named 'Gustave', hence the name of her son.

* {{Earworm}}: Most people found "Bathing Beauty" to be the most gratingly repetitive and irritating in the show, which had the unintended side-effect of making it ''extremely'' memorable. It's supposed to a pastiche of brainless, throwaway vaudeville songs of the era, in contrast to the lush arias the Phantom composes for Christine. The trouble is that even if it was intended as a parody, in practice it's ''just as annoying'' as the genuine article.

* {{Earworm}}: Most people found "Bathing Beauty" to be the most gratingly repetitive and irritating in the show, which had the unintended side-effect of making it ''extremely'' memorable. It's supposed to a pastiche of brainless, throwaway vaudeville songs of the era, in contrast to the lush arias the Phantom composes for Christine. The trouble is that even if it was intended as a parody, in practice it's ''just as annoying'' as the real thing.

** At this point, the Broadway production is this, much as Andrew Lloyd Webber wants to see it happen; despite international productions seeing some success, there isn't a lot of demand from the North American ''Phantom'' fanbase for their own staging.

** At this point, the Broadway production is this, much as Andrew Lloyd Webber wants to see it happen; despite international productions seeing some success, there isn't a lot of demand from the North American ''Phantom'' fanbase for their own staging.

** At this point, the Broadway production is this, much as Andrew Lloyd Webber wants to see it happen; despite international productions seeing some success, there isn't a lot of demand from the North American ''Phantom'' fanbase for their own staging.

** At this point, the Broadway version is this, much as Andrew Lloyd Webber wants to see it happen.

* DevelopmentHell: The Broadway version was supposed to open November 2010, and was then pushed back to spring 2011, then indefinitely.

** Webber had gotten halfway through writing the show when his cat jumped on his computer and erased it. He had to reconstruct the whole thing from memory, and doubts he got it the same.

** When the sequel was first announced in the late 1990s, novellist Frederick Forsyth worked on the story with Lloyd Webber, and his subsequent novel ''ThePhantomOfManhattan'' is a giant What Could Have Been for the plot.

* FakeAmerican: Most of the ensemble on the cast album, due to the setting.

* ScheduleSlip: The Broadway version was supposed to open November 2010, and was then pushed back to spring 2011, then indefinitely. It will likely remain in DevelopmentHell.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The original plan was to open the show in London, New York City, and Shanghai ''at the same time''.

* ScheduleSlip: The Broadway version was supposed to open November 2010, and was then pushed back to spring 2011...and as of 2012, there are no plans for an American staging.

** When the sequel was first announced in the late 1990s, novellist Frederick Forsyth worked on the story with Lloyd Webber, and his subsequent novel ''ThePhantomOfManhattan'' is a giant What Could Have Been for the plot.

** When the sequel was first announced in the late 1990s, novellist Frederick Forsyth worked on the story with Lloyd Webber, and his subsequent novel ''The Phantom of Manhattan'' is a giant What Could Have Been for the plot. While some elements -- TheEdwardianEra, Coney Island as a key setting, the Phantom taking an interest in Christine's son (called Phillipe in the book), the premise of him hiring her to perform for him once more, [[spoiler: Christine's death]], etc. -- carried over into ''Love Never Dies'', most of the rest did not. The villain turned out to be the Phantom's ''literally'' money-worshipping business partner, and key new characters included a newspaper reporter and a Catholic priest who served as Phillipe's tutor. The Phantom wrote a whole opera (set during the American Civil War) for Christine to play the lead role in, and as in the original show he took the place of the male lead during the performance. The CharacterDerailment of the returning characters was absent (save, perhaps, for the revelation that Madame Giry was responsible for the Phantom living in the Opera House to begin with and helped him escape authorities afterward). As for [[spoiler: the child's conception]], it was explained as [[spoiler: taking place in the Phantom's lair after he kidnapped Christine during ''Don Juan Triumphant'' but before Raoul arrived to save her; it's not clear whether it was consensual]].

* DevelopmentHell: The project was first conceived in the late 1990s, as noted under CanonDiscontinuity in the Main tab.

** When the sequel was first announced in the late 1990s, novellist Frederick Forsyth worked on the story with Lloyd Webber, and his subsequent novel ''The Phantom of Manhattan'' is a giant What Could Have Been for the plot. While the basic plot elements -- TheEdwardianEra, Coney Island as a key setting, the Phantom taking an interest in Christine's son (called Phillipe in the book), the premise of him hiring her to perform for him once more, and [[spoiler: Christine's death]] -- carried over into ''Love Never Dies'', most of the rest did not. The villain turned out to be the Phantom's ''literally'' money-worshipping business partner, and key new characters included a newspaper reporter and a Catholic priest who served as Phillipe's tutor. The Phantom wrote a whole opera (set during the American Civil War) for Christine to play the lead role in, and as in the original show he took the place of the male lead during the performance. The CharacterDerailment of the returning characters was absent (save, perhaps, for the revelation that Madame Giry was responsible for the Phantom living in the Opera House to begin with and helped him escape authorities afterward). As for [[spoiler: the child's conception]], it was explained as [[spoiler: taking place sometime during the climax of the first show]].

** When the sequel was first announced in the late 1990s, novellist Frederick Forsyth worked on the story with Lloyd Webber, and his subsequent novel ''The Phantom of Manhattan'' is effectively a giant What Could Have Been for this show's plot. While the basic plot elements -- TheEdwardianEra, Coney Island as a key setting, the Phantom taking an interest in Christine's son (called Phillipe in the book), the premise of him hiring her to perform for him once more, and [[spoiler: Christine's death]] -- carried over into ''Love Never Dies'', most of the rest did not. The villain turned out to be the Phantom's ''literally'' money-worshipping business partner, and key new characters included a newspaper reporter and a Catholic priest who served as Phillipe's tutor. The Phantom wrote a whole opera (set during the American Civil War) for Christine to play the lead role in, and as in the original show he took the place of the male lead during the performance. The CharacterDerailment of the returning characters was absent (save, perhaps, for the revelation that Madame Giry was responsible for the Phantom living in the Opera House to begin with and helped him escape authorities afterward). As for [[spoiler: the child's conception]], it was explained as [[spoiler: taking place sometime during the climax of the first show]].

** When the sequel was first announced in the late 1990s, novellist Frederick Forsyth worked on the story with Lloyd Webber, and his subsequent novel ''The Phantom of Manhattan'' is effectively a giant What Could Have Been for this show's plot. While the basic plot elements -- TheEdwardianEra, Coney Island as a key setting, the Phantom taking an interest in Christine's son (called Phillipe in the book), and the premise of him hiring her to perform for him once more -- carried over into ''Love Never Dies'', most of the rest did not. The villain turned out to be the Phantom's ''literally'' money-worshipping business partner, and key new characters included a newspaper reporter and a Catholic priest who served as Phillipe's tutor. The Phantom wrote a whole opera (set during the American Civil War) for Christine to play the lead role in, and as in the original show he took the place of the male lead during the performance. The CharacterDerailment of the returning characters was absent (save, perhaps, for the revelation that Madame Giry was responsible for the Phantom living in the Opera House to begin with and helped him escape authorities afterward). As for [[spoiler: the child's conception]], it was explained as [[spoiler: taking place sometime during the climax of the first show]].

** When the sequel was first announced in the late 1990s, novellist Frederick Forsyth worked on the story with Lloyd Webber, and his subsequent novel ''The Phantom of Manhattan'' is effectively a giant What Could Have Been for this show's plot. While the basic plot elements -- TheEdwardianEra, Coney Island as a key setting, the Phantom taking an interest in Christine's son (called Phillipe in the book), and the premise of him hiring her to perform for him once more -- carried over into ''Love Never Dies'', most of the rest did not. The villain turned out to be the Phantom's ''literally'' money-worshipping business partner, and key new characters included a newspaper reporter and a Catholic priest who served as Phillipe's tutor. The Phantom wrote a whole opera (set during the American Civil War) for Christine to play the lead role in, and as in the original show he takes the place of the male lead during the performance. The CharacterDerailment of the returning characters was absent (save, perhaps, for the revelation that Madame Giry was responsible for the Phantom living in the Opera House to begin with and helped him escape authorities afterward). As for [[spoiler: the child's conception]], it was explained as [[spoiler: taking place sometime during the climax of the first show]].

** When the sequel was first announced in the late 1990s, novellist Frederick Forsyth worked on the story with Lloyd Webber, and his subsequent novel ''The Phantom of Manhattan'' is effectively a giant What Could Have Been for this show's plot. While the basic plot elements -- TheEdwardianEra, Coney Island as a key setting, the Phantom taking an interest in Christine's son (called Phillipe in the book), and the premise of him hiring her to perform for him once more -- carried over into ''Love Never Dies'', most of the rest did not. The villain turned out to be the Phantom's ''literally'' money-worshipping business partner, and key new characters included a newspaper reporter and a Catholic priest who served as Phillipe's tutor. The Phantom wrote a whole opera (set during TheCivilWar) for Christine to play the lead role in, and as in the original show he takes the place of the male lead during the performance. The CharacterDerailment of the returning characters was absent (save, perhaps, for the revelation that Madame Giry was responsible for the Phantom living in the Opera House to begin with and helped him escape authorities afterward). As for [[spoiler: the child's conception]], it was explained as [[spoiler: taking place sometime during the climax of the first show]].

* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The original plan was to open the show in London, New York City, and Shanghai ''at the same time''.

* ScheduleSlip: The Broadway version was supposed to open November 2010, but was pushed back to spring 2011. Rumors are starting to fly that it may ''never'' come to New York City.