History Trivia / LinkinPark

19th Sep '17 11:58:29 PM Corvatis
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* AuthorExistenceFailure: Chester Bennington's suicide occurred a week before the band was to start a North American tour. They have since cancelled the tour, but have yet to announce anything else yet.

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* AuthorExistenceFailure: Chester Bennington's suicide occurred a week before the band was to start a North American tour. They have since immediately cancelled the tour, but have yet plan to announce anything else yet.play a memorial show in Los Angeles in October 2017.



** A specific example lies in "Bleed it Out": the lyrics were rewritten over and over, much to Mike and Chester's frustration, resulting in the opening line "[[OhNoNotAgain Yeah, here we go for the hundredth time…]]"

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** A specific example lies in "Bleed it It Out": the lyrics were rewritten sent back for rewrites over and over, much to Mike and Chester's frustration, resulting in the opening line "[[OhNoNotAgain Yeah, here we go for the hundredth time…]]"



** Chester revealed in a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UTX_GgNzEY Scuzz TV]] interview that, while recording ''Hybrid Theory'', Warner Bros. execs wanted to either demote Mike to a keyboardist or fire him, despite him being the primary songwriter and producer. [[TrueCompanions The rest of the band]] threatened to quit in protest. Then when the album was released and became a hit, Warner Bros. claimed that they were a fabricated act. This was briefly chronicled later by Mike in the Music/FortMinor song "Get Me Gone".

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** Chester revealed in a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UTX_GgNzEY Scuzz TV]] interview that, while recording ''Hybrid Theory'', Warner Bros. execs wanted to either demote Mike to a keyboardist or fire him, despite him being the primary songwriter and producer. [[TrueCompanions The rest of the band]] threatened to quit in protest. Then when the album was released and became a hit, Warner Bros. claimed that they were a fabricated act. This was briefly chronicled later by Mike in the Music/FortMinor song "Get Me Gone".



** Mike has said he's embarrassed by the "One Step Closer" video and refuses to even show his own kids that video.

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** Mike has said he's so embarrassed by the "One Step Closer" video and video, he refuses to even show it to his own kids that video.kids.



** Don Gilmore (producer of ''Hybrid Theory'') got in on this a little bit with idiotic record executives. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UTX_GgNzEY Chester told a story]] about an exec listening to a track, and saying he didn't like it. Gilmore replied "Wait, let me do something" and turn one of the knobs slightly up. The exec said "That's much better! The track is great!" [[EpicFail All Gilmore did was turn the volume up slightly]].

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** Don Gilmore (producer of ''Hybrid Theory'') got in on this a little bit with idiotic record executives. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UTX_GgNzEY Chester told a story]] about an exec listening to a track, and saying he didn't like it. Gilmore replied "Wait, let me do something" and turn one of the knobs slightly up. The exec said "That's much better! The track is great!" [[EpicFail All Gilmore did was turn the volume up slightly]].slightly.]]
11th Sep '17 4:48:42 PM NWolfman
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The band wanted to shift styles more drastically for ''Meteora'' (as evidenced by the many electronic demos from that period released on Underground volumes), but the record company wanted more nu-metal. As a result, the album was something of an compromise between the two styles. This seems to have been a good thing - the album's most acclaimed track is "Breaking The Habit", a track based on an electronic instrumental Shinoda had put a lot of effort into. Had they made the whole album in this style, they would have alienated older fans, and had they not included it, might not have convinced the record company they could be successful with more like it.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: The band wanted to shift styles more drastically for ''Meteora'' (as evidenced by the many electronic demos from that period released on Underground volumes), but the record company wanted more nu-metal. As a result, the album was something of an compromise between the two styles. This seems to have been a good thing - the album's most acclaimed track is "Breaking The Habit", a track based on an electronic instrumental Shinoda had put a lot of effort into. Had It's food for thought what might have happened had they made the whole album in this style, they would have alienated older fans, and had they not included it, might not have convinced the record company they could be successful with more like it.their drastic shift away from their SignatureStyle as early as their second album.
27th Aug '17 1:41:53 PM Corvatis
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* RagsToRiches: Chester was so poor before he joined the band, he and his first wife tattooed wedding rings on their fingers instead of buying them.
* RealPersonFic: Chester Bennington and Mike Shinoda had a very close friendship and, as a result, many a fanfic written about them. They even have a PortmanteauCoupleName of "Bennoda."
25th Aug '17 10:44:57 PM KingLyger
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* LoonyFan / StalkerWithACrush: Chester and his wife Talinda had one of these for about a year, who managed to [[TheCracker hack their emails]] and steal / taunt them with personal information after Chester inadvertently published his personal email address. The hacker, Devon Townsend, happened to be employed by a subcontractor for the US Department of Energy's nuclear security and research program, with [[OhCrap access to nuclear materials]] – and spent most of her work days messing with the Benningtons' data from an unmonitored workstation. The breach exposed massive gaps in her employer's security standards,
resulting in [[https://www.wired.com/2007/05/ff-linkinpark-2/amp a federal investigation]]. Townsend was eventually caught and jailed for two years.

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* LoonyFan / StalkerWithACrush: Chester and his wife Talinda had one of these for about a year, who managed to [[TheCracker hack their emails]] and steal / taunt them with personal information after Chester inadvertently published his personal email address. The hacker, Devon Townsend, happened to be employed by a subcontractor for the US Department of Energy's nuclear security and research program, with [[OhCrap access to nuclear materials]] – and spent most of her work days messing with the Benningtons' data from an unmonitored workstation. The breach exposed massive gaps in her employer's security standards,
standards, resulting in [[https://www.wired.com/2007/05/ff-linkinpark-2/amp a federal investigation]]. Townsend was eventually caught and jailed for two years.
24th Aug '17 10:26:31 PM Corvatis
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* CreatorBreakdown: Chester Bennington's. Sexual abuse, divorced parents, and drug addiction, [[DarkAndTroubledPast all before he was eighteen]]. The trauma stayed with him his entire life until [[DrivenToSuicide he took it]].
** Coupled with ManlyTears: On several occasions, when they attempted to play "Breaking the Habit" live, he broke down and cried. However, while the song's subject matter fits with Chester's past, the lyrics were penned by Mike without Chester's input.
*** Happened again during a [[https://youtu.be/CgwL14IDDJY live performance]] of "One More Light" in May 2017, the morning of Music/ChrisCornell's suicide. Chester, who was close friends with Cornell, almost didn't finish the song. He eventually committed suicide himself on Cornell's birthday two months later, although no one has officially said the events were related.
** A specific example lies in "Bleed it Out": the lyrics were rewritten numerous times, resulting in the opening line "[[LampshadeHanging Here we go for the hundredth time…]]"

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* CreatorBreakdown: Chester Bennington's. Sexual abuse, divorced parents, and drug addiction, [[DarkAndTroubledPast all before he was eighteen]]. The trauma stayed with him his entire life until [[DrivenToSuicide he took it]].
** Coupled with ManlyTears: On several occasions, when they attempted to play "Breaking the Habit" live, he broke down and cried. However, while the song's subject matter fits with Chester's past, the lyrics were penned by Mike without Chester's input.
*** Happened again during a [[https://youtu.be/CgwL14IDDJY live performance]] of "One More Light" in May 2017, the morning of Music/ChrisCornell's suicide. Chester, who was close friends with Cornell, almost didn't finish the song. He eventually committed suicide himself on Cornell's birthday two months later, although no one has officially said the events were related.
** A specific example lies in "Bleed it Out": the lyrics were rewritten numerous times, over and over, much to Mike and Chester's frustration, resulting in the opening line "[[LampshadeHanging Here "[[OhNoNotAgain Yeah, here we go for the hundredth time…]]"



* DarkAndTroubledPast: Chester Bennington's. Sexual abuse, divorced parents, and drug addiction, all before he was eighteen. The trauma stayed with him his entire life [[DrivenToSuicide until he took it]].



* LoonyFan / StalkerWithACrush: Chester and his wife Talinda had one of these for about a year, who managed to [[TheCracker hack their emails]] and steal / taunt them with personal information after Chester inadvertently published his personal email address. The hacker, Devon Townsend, happened to be employed by a subcontractor for the US Department of Energy's nuclear security and research program, with [[OhCrap access to nuclear materials]] – and spent most of her work days messing with the Benningtons' data from an unmonitored workstation. The breach exposed massive gaps in her employer's security standards,
resulting in [[https://www.wired.com/2007/05/ff-linkinpark-2/amp a federal investigation]]. Townsend was eventually caught and jailed for two years.
* ManlyTears: On several occasions, when they attempted to play "Breaking the Habit" live, he broke down and cried. However, while the song's subject matter fits with Chester's past, the lyrics were penned by Mike without Chester's input.
** Happened again during a [[https://youtu.be/CgwL14IDDJY live performance]] of "One More Light" in May 2017, the morning of Music/ChrisCornell's suicide. Chester, who was close friends with Cornell, almost didn't finish the song. He eventually committed suicide himself on Cornell's birthday two months later, although no one has officially said the events were related.



* ProductPlacement: The music videos for "Heavy" and Good Goodbye" both prominently feature Mercedes Benz vehicles.

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* ProductPlacement: The music videos for "Heavy" and Good "Good Goodbye" both prominently feature Mercedes Benz vehicles.



* StalkerWithACrush: Chester and his wife Talinda had one of these for about a year, who managed to [[TheCracker hack into their emails]] and steal / taunt them with personal information after Chester inadvertently published his personal email address. The hacker, Devon Townsend, not only used her work computer to stalk them, but she happened to be employed by a subcontractor for the US Department of Energy's nuclear security and research program, turning the breach into [[https://www.wired.com/2007/05/ff-linkinpark-2/amp a matter of national security.]] Townsend was eventually caught and jailed for two years.
24th Aug '17 10:26:34 AM Corvatis
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* StalkerWithACrush: Chester and his wife Talinda had one of these for about a year, who managed to [[TheCracker hack into their emails]] and steal / taunt them with personal information after Chester inadvertently published his personal email address. The hacker, Devon Townsend, not only used her work computer to stalk them, but she happened to be employed by a subcontractor for the US Department of Energy's nuclear security and research program, turning the breach into [[https://www.wired.com/2007/05/ff-linkinpark-2/amp a matter of national security.]] Townsend was eventually caught and jailed for two years.
24th Aug '17 1:25:57 AM Corvatis
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* ProductPlacement: The music videos for "Heavy" and Good Goodbye" both prominently feature Mercedes Benz vehicles.
23rd Aug '17 11:30:36 PM Corvatis
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** Happened again during a [[https://youtu.be/CgwL14IDDJY live performance]] of "One More Light" in May 2017, the morning of Music/ChrisCornell's suicide. Chester, who was close friends with Cornell, almost didn't finish the song. He eventually committed suicide himself on Cornell's birthday two months later, although no one has officially said the events were related.

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** *** Happened again during a [[https://youtu.be/CgwL14IDDJY live performance]] of "One More Light" in May 2017, the morning of Music/ChrisCornell's suicide. Chester, who was close friends with Cornell, almost didn't finish the song. He eventually committed suicide himself on Cornell's birthday two months later, although no one has officially said the events were related.



** Chester revealed in a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UTX_GgNzEY Scuzz TV]] interview that, while recording ''Hybrid Theory'', Warner Bros. execs wanted to either demote Mike to a keyboardist or fire him, despite him being the primary songwriter and producer. [[TrueCompanions The rest of the band]] threatened to quit in protest. Then when the album was released and became a hit, Warner Bros. claimed that they were a fabricated act. This was briefly chronicled later by Mike in the Music/FortMinor song "Get me Gone".

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** Chester revealed in a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UTX_GgNzEY Scuzz TV]] interview that, while recording ''Hybrid Theory'', Warner Bros. execs wanted to either demote Mike to a keyboardist or fire him, despite him being the primary songwriter and producer. [[TrueCompanions The rest of the band]] threatened to quit in protest. Then when the album was released and became a hit, Warner Bros. claimed that they were a fabricated act. This was briefly chronicled later by Mike in the Music/FortMinor song "Get me Me Gone".
23rd Aug '17 11:27:45 PM Corvatis
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* BlackSheepHit: "Breaking The Habit", an electronic song without distorted guitars in it, and "Numb", a ballad. Both from their album Meteora, and both would substantially influence the direction they would take afterwards. Notably, neither song features Mike Shinoda on lead vocals, and it contributed to the perception of Chester as the frontman.

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* BlackSheepHit: "Breaking The Habit", an electronic song without distorted guitars in it, and "Numb", a ballad. Both from their album Meteora, ''Meteora'', and both would substantially influence the direction they would take afterwards. Notably, neither song features Mike Shinoda on lead vocals, and it contributed to the perception of Chester as the frontman.



* ContestWinnerCameo: [=NoBraiN=], the winner of Linkin Park's remix contest, got his remix featured on ''A Thousand Suns''. He also makes an appearance on the outro to "When They Come for Me."

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* ContestWinnerCameo: [=NoBraiN=], the winner of Linkin Park's remix contest, got his remix featured on ''A Thousand Suns''. He also makes an appearance on the outro to "When They Come for Me."Me".



* CreatorBreakdown: Chester Bennington's. Sexual abuse, divorced parents, and drug addiction, all before he was eighteen, and the trauma stayed with him his entire life until [[DrivenToSuicide he took it]].
** Coupled with ManlyTears: On several occasions, when they attempted to play "Breaking the Habit" live, he broke down and cried. However, it's interesting to note that while the song's subject matter fits in line with Chester's past, the lyrics were penned by Mike without Chester's input.
** A specific example lies in "Bleed it Out": the lyrics were rewritten numerous times, resulting in the opening line "[[LampshadeHanging Here we go for the hundredth time...]]"
* DearNegativeReader: Chester outright [[http://www.nme.com/news/music/linkin-park-hybrid-theory-chester-bennington-2068551 said]] he didn't really care if people liked ''One More Light'' or not and told naysayers that accused the band of being sell-outs to stab themselves in the face (the article makes a note that Chester laughed when he said this). He also demanded that those still hung up on ''Hybrid Theory'' to "move the [[PrecisionFStrike fuck]] on."

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* CreatorBreakdown: Chester Bennington's. Sexual abuse, divorced parents, and drug addiction, [[DarkAndTroubledPast all before he was eighteen, and the eighteen]]. The trauma stayed with him his entire life until [[DrivenToSuicide he took it]].
** Coupled with ManlyTears: On several occasions, when they attempted to play "Breaking the Habit" live, he broke down and cried. However, it's interesting to note that while the song's subject matter fits in line with Chester's past, the lyrics were penned by Mike without Chester's input.
** Happened again during a [[https://youtu.be/CgwL14IDDJY live performance]] of "One More Light" in May 2017, the morning of Music/ChrisCornell's suicide. Chester, who was close friends with Cornell, almost didn't finish the song. He eventually committed suicide himself on Cornell's birthday two months later, although no one has officially said the events were related.
** A specific example lies in "Bleed it Out": the lyrics were rewritten numerous times, resulting in the opening line "[[LampshadeHanging Here we go for the hundredth time...]]"
time…]]"
*** On the ''Minutes to Midnight'' DVDCommentary, one of the many, many rewrites can be seen titled [[https://youtu.be/tbxVt27GakY#t=26m38s "REFUCKINGWRITE version.838458503"]].
* DearNegativeReader: Chester outright [[http://www.nme.com/news/music/linkin-park-hybrid-theory-chester-bennington-2068551 said]] he didn't really care if people liked ''One More Light'' or not and not, then told naysayers that accused the band of being sell-outs to stab themselves in the face (the article makes a note that Chester laughed when he said this). He also demanded that those told fans still hung up on ''Hybrid Theory'' to "move the [[PrecisionFStrike fuck]] on."



** The last two albums did have a version with a DVD, even though the one for Living Things came out roughly a year after the original album was released. These differ though in that they only feature live concert footage.
* DyeingForYourArt: During the Hybrid Theory period, Mike would often dye his hair red or blue. Less obvious to people was the fact that Chester dyed his hair blond during that period. Both of them reverted to their natural colors, black and dark brown respectively from Meteora onwards.
* ExecutiveMeddling: The band wanted to shift styles more drastically for Meteora (as evidenced by the many electronic demos from that period released on Underground volumes) but the record company wanted more nu-metal. As a result, the album was something of an compromise between the two styles. This seems to have been a good thing - the album's most acclaimed track is "Breaking The Habit", a track based on an electronic instrumental Shinoda had put a lot of effort into. Had they made the whole album in this style, they would have alienated older fans, and had they not included it, might not have convinced the record company they could be successful with more like it.
** There are hints that "What I've Done" was written purely because the record company didn't see a suitable single on "Minutes To Midnight". The fact the band had written almost 150 songs before this means this could be likely. In the documentary "Meeting Of A Thousand Suns", Shinoda says that the album's first single 'doesn't have to be some 'What I've Done shit'.
** Actively [[DiscussedTrope discussed]] by guest artist Rakim in the bridge of ''Guilty All the Same'', explaining how much the trope has ruined the Rock and Rap music scene in the past few years.
** Chester revealed in a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UTX_GgNzEY Scuzz TV]] interview that, while recording "Hybrid Theory", execs wanted to either demote Mike to a keyboardist or fire him, despite him being the primary songwriter and producer. The rest of the band threatened to quit in protest. Then when the album was released and became a hit, Warner Bros. claimed that they were a fabricated act. This was briefly chronicled later by Mike in the Music/FortMinor song "Get me Gone".
** Mike discusses it at length in an [=LPAssociation=]-sponsored [[https://youtu.be/kXVEzC6PiBY Podcast]]. He notes that the band have often had conflicts with the label, but made it very clear when recording their first album that they wanted creative autonomy. He notes that they are to make the music they want and cannot be bothered about making money. On the other hand, he believes that going back to a Hybrid Theory-era Nu Metal style would be truly selling out as his musical interests have expanded a lot since then.

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** The last two albums did have a version with a DVD, even though the one for Living Things ''Living Things'' came out roughly a year after the original album was released. These differ though in that they only feature live concert footage.
* DyeingForYourArt: During the Hybrid Theory ''Hybrid Theory'' period, Mike would often dye his hair red or blue. Less obvious to people was the fact that conspicuously, Chester dyed bleached his hair blond during that period. Both of them reverted to their natural colors, black colors (black and dark brown respectively brown, respectively) from Meteora ''Meteora'' onwards.
* ExecutiveMeddling: The band wanted to shift styles more drastically for Meteora ''Meteora'' (as evidenced by the many electronic demos from that period released on Underground volumes) volumes), but the record company wanted more nu-metal. As a result, the album was something of an compromise between the two styles. This seems to have been a good thing - the album's most acclaimed track is "Breaking The Habit", a track based on an electronic instrumental Shinoda had put a lot of effort into. Had they made the whole album in this style, they would have alienated older fans, and had they not included it, might not have convinced the record company they could be successful with more like it.
** There are hints that "What I've Done" was written purely because the record company didn't see a suitable single on "Minutes ''Minutes To Midnight".Midnight''. The fact the band had written almost 150 songs before this means this could be likely. In the documentary "Meeting [[DVDCommentary documentary]] ''Meeting Of A Thousand Suns", Suns'', Shinoda says that the album's first single 'doesn't have to be some 'What "What I've Done Done" shit'.
** Actively [[DiscussedTrope discussed]] by guest artist Rakim in the bridge of ''Guilty "Guilty All the Same'', Same", explaining how much the trope has ruined the Rock rock and Rap rap music scene in the past few years.
** Chester revealed in a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UTX_GgNzEY Scuzz TV]] interview that, while recording "Hybrid Theory", ''Hybrid Theory'', Warner Bros. execs wanted to either demote Mike to a keyboardist or fire him, despite him being the primary songwriter and producer. [[TrueCompanions The rest of the band band]] threatened to quit in protest. Then when the album was released and became a hit, Warner Bros. claimed that they were a fabricated act. This was briefly chronicled later by Mike in the Music/FortMinor song "Get me Gone".
** Mike discusses it at length in an [=LPAssociation=]-sponsored [[https://youtu.be/kXVEzC6PiBY Podcast]]. He notes that the band have often had conflicts with the label, but made it very clear when recording their first album that they wanted creative autonomy. He notes that they are to make the music they want and cannot be bothered about making money. On the other hand, he believes that going back to a Hybrid Theory-era Nu Metal ''Hybrid Theory''-era NuMetal style would be truly selling out out, as his musical interests have expanded a lot since then.



* GenreAdultery: Leave Out All The Rest and Shadow Of The Day are soft-rock radio ballads that the band were once considered the alternative to. These tracks are the main reason for the disappointed reception of Minutes To Midnight by older fans.

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* GenreAdultery: Leave "Leave Out All The Rest the Rest" and Shadow Of The Day "Shadow of the Day" are soft-rock radio ballads that the band were once considered the alternative to. These tracks are the main reason for the disappointed reception of Minutes ''Minutes To Midnight Midnight'' by older fans.



* TrollingCreator: The band's co-vocalist Mike Shinoda has had shades of this in the last few years. Teasing snippets of new songs only leading to unrelated Website/YouTube videos or claiming that a band member had quit. Recently Mike sent a link out on Twitter touting new pictures from the upcoming fifth album. When clicked, the link sends fans to a picture of a [[VisualPun Troll]] [[LampshadeHanging doll]].
** Don Gilmore (producer of "Hybrid Theory") got in on this a little bit with idiotic record executives. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UTX_GgNzEY Chester told a story]] about an exec listening to a track, and saying he didn't like it. Gilmore replied "Wait, let me do something" and turn one of the knobs slightly up. The exec said "That's much better! The track is great!" [[EpicFail All Gilmore did was turn the volume up slightly]].

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* TrollingCreator: The band's co-vocalist Mike Shinoda has had shades of this in the last few years. Teasing snippets of new songs only leading to unrelated Website/YouTube videos or claiming that a band member had quit. Recently In the run-up to the release of ''Living Things'', Mike sent a link out on Twitter touting new pictures from the upcoming fifth album. When clicked, the link sends sent fans to a picture of a [[VisualPun Troll]] [[LampshadeHanging doll]].
** Don Gilmore (producer of "Hybrid Theory") ''Hybrid Theory'') got in on this a little bit with idiotic record executives. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UTX_GgNzEY Chester told a story]] about an exec listening to a track, and saying he didn't like it. Gilmore replied "Wait, let me do something" and turn one of the knobs slightly up. The exec said "That's much better! The track is great!" [[EpicFail All Gilmore did was turn the volume up slightly]].
18th Aug '17 6:07:59 PM FALLOFALL
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*** Notably, the "One Step Closer" video is the only Linkin Park video that had Mike with [FieryRedhead red hair], which is another OldShame of his.

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*** Notably, the "One Step Closer" video is the only Linkin Park video that had Mike with [FieryRedhead [[FieryRedhead red hair], hair]], which is another OldShame of his.
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