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* OfficialFanSubmittedContent: Readers voted in a poll to choose Darth Caedus's Sith name, with the others being Darth Acheron, Darth Judicar, Darth Paxis, and Darth Taral.

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* OfficialFanSubmittedContent: Readers submitted suggestions and then voted in a poll to choose Darth Caedus's Sith name, with the others runner ups being Darth Acheron, Darth Judicar, Darth Paxis, and Darth Taral.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The ending to the series is very straightforward with Jaina killing Caedus in one-on-one combat. Dennings' original idea was ''much'' weirder. Jacen's flow-walking would eventually caused him to [[FreakyFridayFlip switch bodies]] with his brother, a disguised Jacen fulfilling Anakin's sacrifice in the past and Anakin being resuscitated by Jaina in the present. Nothing came of this beyond suggestion.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The ending to the series is very straightforward with Jaina killing Caedus in one-on-one combat. Dennings' original idea was ''much'' weirder. Jacen's flow-walking would eventually caused cause him to [[FreakyFridayFlip switch bodies]] with his brother, a disguised Jacen fulfilling Anakin's sacrifice in the past and Anakin being resuscitated by Jaina in the present. Nothing came of this beyond suggestion.

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* RealitySubtext: Released in 2006, this series owes a lot, thematically, to the War on Terror, what with Jacen ranting against his parents' support of a totalitarian government and the terrorists that work for them (which is true), while his family is dismayed at his curtailing of democracy and personal liberties in his struggle to defeat them (also true).



* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Released in 2006, this series owes a lot, thematically, to the War on Terror, what with Jacen ranting against his parents' support of a totalitarian government and the terrorists that work for them (which is true), while his family is dismayed at his curtailing of democracy and personal liberties in his struggle to defeat them (also true).
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* FanNickname:
** Jacen In Name Only.
** Gaydalorians, or [[Music/{{Rammstein}} Mann Gegen Mann]]dalorians.
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* FlipFlopOfGod: According to Karen Traviss, she proposed [[spoiler:killing off Mara Jade]], though she apparently later stated in a now-deleted tweet that it was ExecutiveMeddling.

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* CreatorBacklash: [[http://www.theforce.net/jedicouncil/interview/timothyzahn.asp Timothy Zahn has said in an interview with Jedi Council]] that he wasn't happy when he found out that [[spoiler:Mara Jade]] was getting killed off, feeling that there was more that could've been done for [[spoiler:her]]. The interviewer also asked him about how he felt about [[spoiler:Pellaeon]]'s death, though Zahn focused more on [[spoiler:Mara]], so whatever he feels about [[spoiler:Pellaeon]], though suggests that he's more concerned about how [[spoiler:Mara]] died.

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[[http://www.theforce.net/jedicouncil/interview/timothyzahn.asp Timothy Zahn has said in an interview with Jedi Council]] that he wasn't happy when he found out that [[spoiler:Mara Jade]] was getting killed off, feeling that there was more that could've been done for [[spoiler:her]]. The interviewer also asked him about how he felt about [[spoiler:Pellaeon]]'s death, though Zahn focused more on [[spoiler:Mara]], so whatever he feels about [[spoiler:Pellaeon]], though suggests that he's more concerned about how [[spoiler:Mara]] died.died.
** Likewise, [[spoiler:Shannon [=McCrandle=], the art model of Mara Jade, was also not happy about Mara's death and how it happened]].
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With how much the post-NJO timeline was still continuing with FOTJ and the Legacy comics after LOTF, the first example feels shoehorned at best. On the second example, I don’t think a niche book series was really enough to prompt the reboot: Leland’s noted that the death of Chewbacca in NJO was more of a reason for the reboot than anything.


* FranchiseKiller: The negative reception for the series has stopped any potential post-''New Jedi Order'' stories from being made, aside from the ''Fate Of The Jedi'' series that is considered to be an AuthorsSavingThrow.
** While the Expanded Universe was always iffy on if it was in terms of continuity with the movies and ''WesternAnimation/TheCloneWars'', it was pretty much accepted that they still took place in the same universe, with elements from the novels being incorporated into the show and movies. ''Legacy of the Force'' was so poorly done that it might just be one of the leading causes for the EU getting rebooted when the Disney era came around.
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The Last Jedi's reception doesn't really disprove this example, it only applies to the old EU

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* FranchiseKiller: The negative reception for the series has stopped any potential post-''New Jedi Order'' stories from being made, aside from the ''Fate Of The Jedi'' series that is considered to be an AuthorsSavingThrow.
** While the Expanded Universe was always iffy on if it was in terms of continuity with the movies and ''WesternAnimation/TheCloneWars'', it was pretty much accepted that they still took place in the same universe, with elements from the novels being incorporated into the show and movies. ''Legacy of the Force'' was so poorly done that it might just be one of the leading causes for the EU getting rebooted when the Disney era came around.

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Then Rian subverted our expectations.


* FranchiseKiller: The negative reception for the series has stopped any potential post-''New Jedi Order'' stories from being made, aside from the ''Fate Of The Jedi'' series that is considered to be an AuthorsSavingThrow.
** While the Expanded Universe was always iffy on if it was in terms of continuity with the movies and ''WesternAnimation/TheCloneWars'', it was pretty much accepted that they still took place in the same universe, with elements from the novels being incorporated into the show and movies. ''Legacy of the Force'' was so poorly done that it might just be one of the leading causes for the EU getting rebooted when the Disney era came around.



* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Released in 2006, this series owes a lot, thematically, to the War on Terror, what with Jacen ranting against his parents' support of a totalitarian government and the terrorists that work for them (which is true), while his family is dismayed at his curtailing of democracy and personal liberties in his struggle to defeat them (also true). In general, tastes-like-dirt cynicism that imbues the work is pretty emblematic of the American zeitgeist in 2007, and it's something that the series has consciously avoided ever since.

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Released in 2006, this series owes a lot, thematically, to the War on Terror, what with Jacen ranting against his parents' support of a totalitarian government and the terrorists that work for them (which is true), while his family is dismayed at his curtailing of democracy and personal liberties in his struggle to defeat them (also true). In general, tastes-like-dirt cynicism that imbues the work is pretty emblematic of the American zeitgeist in 2007, and it's something that the series has consciously avoided ever since.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The ending to the series is very straightforward with Jaina killing Caedus in one-on-one combat. Dennings' original idea was ''much'' weirder. Jacen's flow-walking would eventually caused him to [[FreakyFridayFlip switch bodies]] with his brother, a disguised Jacen fulfilling Anakin's sacrifice in the past and Anakin being resuscitated by Jaina in the present. Nothing came of this beyond suggestion.
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* TroubledProduction: The series ran into this due to growing animosity between the authors. Karen Traviss was well known for a series of side stories at the time that she had worked on exclusively and thus was never part of a rotating series like Troy Denning and Aaron Allston had been. She was also notorious for never reading other people's works within the franchise, often causing huge ContinuitySnarls within a franchise that tried hard to keep things consistent. She was also difficult to work with, as Allston once mentioned how he had wanted to tie the Mandalorians into ''Fury'' better, but Traviss outright refused to divulge her plans for them to him. Denning also made various snipes at her as a result and outright ignored much of ''Revelations'' when it came time to write ''Invincible''. Traviss had also suggested various unpopular decisions [[spoiler: like Mara's death]] and never bothered consulting the other writers about if they had plans for the characters, an act that is considered very unprofessional to other SW writers at best and downright insulting at worse. Given this bad blood, it's no wonder the series ended up how it did.

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* TroubledProduction: The series ran into this due to growing animosity between the authors. Karen Traviss was well known for a series of side stories at the time that she had worked on exclusively and thus was never part of a rotating series like Troy Denning and Aaron Allston had been. She was also notorious for never reading other people's works within the franchise, often causing huge ContinuitySnarls {{Continuity Snarl}}s within a franchise that tried hard to keep things consistent. She was also difficult to work with, as Allston once mentioned how he had wanted to tie the Mandalorians into ''Fury'' better, but Traviss outright refused to divulge her plans for them to him. Denning also made various snipes at her as a result and outright ignored much of ''Revelations'' when it came time to write ''Invincible''. Traviss had also suggested various unpopular decisions [[spoiler: like Mara's death]] and never bothered consulting the other writers about if they had plans for the characters, an act that is considered very unprofessional to other SW writers at best and downright insulting at worse. Given this bad blood, it's no wonder the series ended up how it did.
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* CreatorBacklash: [[http://www.theforce.net/jedicouncil/interview/timothyzahn.asp Timothy Zahn has said in an interview with Jedi Council]] that he wasn't happy when he found out that [[spoiler:Mara Jade]] was getting killed off, feeling that there was more that could've been done for [[spoiler:her]]. The interviewer also asked him about how he felt about [[spoiler:Pellaeon]]'s death, though Zahn focused more on [[spoiler:Mara]], so whatever he feels about [[spoiler:Pellaeon]], though suggests that he's more concerned about how [[spoiler:Mara]] died.
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* TroubledProduction: The series ran into this due to growing animosity between the authors. Karen Traviss was well known for a series of side stories at the time that she had worked on exclusively and thus was never part of a rotating series like Troy Denning and Aaron Allston had been. She was also notorious for never reading other people's works within the franchise, often causing huge ContinuitySnarls within a franchise that tried hard to keep things consistent. She was also difficult to work with, as Allston once mentioned how he had wanted to tie the Mandalorians into ''Fury'' better, but Traviss outright refused to divulge her plans for them to him. Denning also made various snipes at her as a result and outright ignored much of ''Revelations'' when it came time to write ''Invincible''. Traviss had also suggested various unpopular decisions [[spoiler: like Mara's death]] and never bothered consulting the other writers about if they had plans for the characters, an act that is considered very unprofessional to other SW writers at best and downright insulting at worse. Given this bad blood, it's no wonder the series ended up how it did.
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I voted Acheron.

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* OfficialFanSubmittedContent: Readers voted in a poll to choose Darth Caedus's Sith name, with the others being Darth Acheron, Darth Judicar, Darth Paxis, and Darth Taral.
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** While the Expanded Universe was always iffy on if it was in terms of continuity with the movies and TheCloneWars, it was pretty much accepted that they still took place in the same universe, with elements from the novels being incorporated into the show and movies. ''Legacy of the Force'' was so poorly done that it might just be one of the leading causes for the EU getting rebooted when the Disney era came around.

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** While the Expanded Universe was always iffy on if it was in terms of continuity with the movies and TheCloneWars, ''WesternAnimation/TheCloneWars'', it was pretty much accepted that they still took place in the same universe, with elements from the novels being incorporated into the show and movies. ''Legacy of the Force'' was so poorly done that it might just be one of the leading causes for the EU getting rebooted when the Disney era came around.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Released in 2006, this series owes a lot, thematically, to the War on Terror, what with Jacen ranting against his parents' support of a totalitarian government and the terrorists that work for them (which is true), while his family is dismayed at his curtailing of democracy and personal liberties in his struggle to defeat them (also true).

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Released in 2006, this series owes a lot, thematically, to the War on Terror, what with Jacen ranting against his parents' support of a totalitarian government and the terrorists that work for them (which is true), while his family is dismayed at his curtailing of democracy and personal liberties in his struggle to defeat them (also true). In general, tastes-like-dirt cynicism that imbues the work is pretty emblematic of the American zeitgeist in 2007, and it's something that the series has consciously avoided ever since.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Released in 2006, this series owes a lot, thematically, to the War on Terror, what with Jacen ranting against his parents' support of a totalitarian government and the terrorists that work for them (which is true), while his family is dismayed at his curtailing of democracy and personal liberties in his struggle to defeat them (also true).
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** While the Expanded Universe was always iffy on if it was in terms of continuity with the movies and TheCloneWars, it was pretty much accepted that they still took place in the same universe, with elements from the novels being incorporated into the show and movies. ''Legacy of the Force'' was so poorly done that it might just be one of the leading causes for the EU getting rebooted when the Disney era came around.
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* FranchiseKiller: The negative reception for the series has stopped any potential post-''New Jedi Order'' stories from being made, aside from the ''Fate Of The Jedi'' series that is considered to be an AuthorsSavingThrow. The development of a Sequel Trilogy also ensures that the plot of this series will fall into CanonDiscontinuity, given that the actors from the original film will be about as old as their characters in these books.

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* FranchiseKiller: The negative reception for the series has stopped any potential post-''New Jedi Order'' stories from being made, aside from the ''Fate Of The Jedi'' series that is considered to be an AuthorsSavingThrow. The development of a Sequel Trilogy also ensures that the plot of this series will fall into CanonDiscontinuity, given that the actors from the original film will be about as old as their characters in these books.

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** Gaydalorians, or [[Music/{{Rammstein}} Mann gegen Mann]]dalorians

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** Gaydalorians, or [[Music/{{Rammstein}} Mann gegen Mann]]daloriansGegen Mann]]dalorians.
* FranchiseKiller: The negative reception for the series has stopped any potential post-''New Jedi Order'' stories from being made, aside from the ''Fate Of The Jedi'' series that is considered to be an AuthorsSavingThrow. The development of a Sequel Trilogy also ensures that the plot of this series will fall into CanonDiscontinuity, given that the actors from the original film will be about as old as their characters in these books.
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* FanNickname:
** Jacen In Name Only.
** Gaydalorians, or [[Music/{{Rammstein}} Mann gegen Mann]]dalorians

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