History Trivia / KingdomOfHeaven

3rd Jul '15 1:03:00 AM erforce
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The reason the theatrical cut was so much shorter than the Director's Cut. Fox wanted a ''Film/{{Gladiator}}'' style action movie with a romance subplot, rather than the political drama Scott and co created. On top of that, they thought audiences wouldn't be able to handle a 3 hour film, disregarding high grossing films like ''Film/{{Titanic}}'' and ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings''. The theater-released version was panned, yet the Director's Cut was critically acclaimed as one of the best movies of the year.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The reason the theatrical cut was so much shorter than the Director's Cut. Fox wanted a ''Film/{{Gladiator}}'' style action movie with a romance subplot, rather than the political drama Scott and co created. On top of that, they thought audiences wouldn't be able to handle a 3 hour film, disregarding high grossing films like ''Film/{{Titanic}}'' ''Film/{{Titanic 1997}}'' and ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings''. The theater-released version was panned, yet the Director's Cut was critically acclaimed as one of the best movies of the year.

** When filming wrapped up, Fox was bothered by the length of the cut that Scott had presented them (around 186 minutes) and forced him to cut the film down to a measly 145 running time, exercising the plot about Sybilla’s kid, among many other scenes. Their reasoning was that audiences couldn't handle a three hour film, disregarding successful long movies such as the studio’s own ''Film/{{Titanic}}'' and ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings''. They also [[MisaimedMarketing mismarketed the film]], making it seem more like ''Film/{{Gladiator}}'' [[RecycledInSpace set in the Crusades]], rather than the Drama that was made. This backfired, resulting in poor box office returns and mediocre reviews (though it did fare better in international markets).
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** When filming wrapped up, Fox was bothered by the length of the cut that Scott had presented them (around 186 minutes) and forced him to cut the film down to a measly 145 running time, exercising the plot about Sybilla’s kid, among many other scenes. Their reasoning was that audiences couldn't handle a three hour film, disregarding successful long movies such as the studio’s own ''Film/{{Titanic}}'' ''Film/{{Titanic 1997}}'' and ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings''. They also [[MisaimedMarketing mismarketed the film]], making it seem more like ''Film/{{Gladiator}}'' [[RecycledInSpace set in the Crusades]], rather than the Drama that was made. This backfired, resulting in poor box office returns and mediocre reviews (though it did fare better in international markets).
24th Nov '14 8:59:45 PM The_J_Hat
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*** King Richard is Ser Jorah.
2nd Sep '14 2:07:21 PM TheBateman
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** The man who leads the company to capture Balian after he leaves the village (his cousin, in the Director's Cut) is Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, none other than [[GameOfThrones Jaime Lannister]]. *** Also in the Director's Cut, the Lord of the village is Robert Pugh, aka Craster.
10th Aug '14 3:43:37 PM Infection
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** At the start of the project, ''[=KOH=]'' originally began as a Creator/RussellCrowe vehicle called ''Tripoli'', Screenwriter William Monahan (''Film/TheDeparted'') had a script written, Scott signed on to direct, 20th Century Fox greenlit it, sets and art assets were being made and then things went nowhere. After two tries of getting it off the ground, Monahan began writing ''Heaven'' after ''Tripoli'' fell apart and Scott always wanted to do a movie about the Crusades.
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** At the start of the project, ''[=KOH=]'' originally began as a Creator/RussellCrowe vehicle called ''Tripoli'', ''Tripoli''. Screenwriter William Monahan (''Film/TheDeparted'') had a script written, Scott signed on to direct, 20th Century Fox greenlit it, sets and art assets were being made and then things went nowhere. After two tries of getting it off the ground, Monahan began writing ''Heaven'' after ''Tripoli'' fell apart and Scott always wanted to do a movie about the Crusades.
10th Aug '14 3:42:33 PM Infection
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* Troubled Production: It got its fair share of issues behind the scenes. ** At the start of the project, it originally began as a Creator/RussellCrowe vehicle called ''Tripoli'', Screenwriter William Monahan (''Film/TheDeparted'') had a script written, Scott signed on to direct, 20th Century Fox greenlit it, sets and art assets were being made and then things went nowhere. After two tries of getting it off the ground, Monahan began writing ''Heaven'' after ''Tripoli'' fell apart and Scott always wanted to do a movie about the Crusades.
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* Troubled Production: It got its fair share of issues behind the scenes. TroubledProduction: ** At the start of the project, it ''[=KOH=]'' originally began as a Creator/RussellCrowe vehicle called ''Tripoli'', Screenwriter William Monahan (''Film/TheDeparted'') had a script written, Scott signed on to direct, 20th Century Fox greenlit it, sets and art assets were being made and then things went nowhere. After two tries of getting it off the ground, Monahan began writing ''Heaven'' after ''Tripoli'' fell apart and Scott always wanted to do a movie about the Crusades.
10th Aug '14 3:42:01 PM Infection
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* Troubled Production: It got its fair share of issues behind the scenes. ** At the start of the project, it originally began as a Creator/RussellCrowe vehicle called ''Tripoli'', Screenwriter William Monahan (''Film/TheDeparted'') had a script written, Scott signed on to direct, 20th Century Fox greenlit it, sets and art assets were being made and then things went nowhere. After two tries of getting it off the ground, Monahan began writing ''Heaven'' after ''Tripoli'' fell apart and Scott always wanted to do a movie about the Crusades. ** The film was pretty much it with ExecutiveMeddling from the start, with the execs being very uncomfortable with the length of the script and the subplot of [[Creator/EvaGreen Eva Green’s]] Princess Sybilla’s son, who briefly ruled Jerusalem after King Baldwin (Creator/EdwardNorton) dies. In Scott’s words on the 4 disc DVD set, he mentioned that studio heads said that the plot “went off on a tangent”. The studio demanded Monahan to write two different versions of the script: One with and without the kid. Scott and co. shot the former. ** Filming was actually pretty smooth, save for an instance in which Creator/OrlandoBloom came down with the flu and suffered some hand injuries. ** JeremyIrons character’s name from Raymond to Tiberius to avoid confusion with Brendan Gleeson’s Reynauld, [[TropesAreNotBad which may not have been a bad thing]]. ** When filming wrapped up, Fox was bothered by the length of the cut that Scott had presented them (around 186 minutes) and forced him to cut the film down to a measly 145 running time, exercising the plot about Sybilla’s kid, among many other scenes. Their reasoning was that audiences couldn't handle a three hour film, disregarding successful long movies such as the studio’s own ''Film/{{Titanic}}'' and ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings''. They also [[MisaimedMarketing mismarketed the film]], making it seem more like ''Film/{{Gladiator}}'' [[RecycledInSpace set in the Crusades]], rather than the Drama that was made. This backfired, resulting in poor box office returns and mediocre reviews (though it did fare better in international markets). ** Luckily, the film found new life on video in the form of the Director's Cut, which restored the original running time and as a result, received much better reviews than its theatrical version.
17th Jul '14 11:24:33 AM Griff4
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* HeyItsThatGuy: The gravedigger at the start of the film is played by Martin Hancock, better known as Geoffrey "Spider" Nugent from [[Series/Coronation Street]] from 1997-2003.
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* HeyItsThatGuy: The gravedigger at the start of the film is played by Martin Hancock, better known as Geoffrey "Spider" Nugent from [[Series/Coronation Street]] ''Series/CoronationStreet'' from 1997-2003.
17th Jul '14 11:21:43 AM Griff4
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* HeyItsThatGuy: The gravedigger at the start of the film is played by Martin Hancock, better known as Geoffrey "Spider" Nugent from [[Series/Coronation Street]] from 1997-2003.
9th Jul '14 5:47:49 AM blueranger
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** Ridley Scott wanted the character of Sibylla to become a nun at the end of the film but the studio insisted it end with her and Balian ending up together. * PlayingAgainstType: Eva Green at the time had played mostly FemmeFatale characters in French films - something which she was reportedly not happy about. Thus DefrostingIceQueen became one of her character types. * PlayingWithCharacterType: Orlando Bloom as an action hero [[{{Film/Troy}} was]] [[Film/LordOfTheRings nothing]] [[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbean new]]. Here however his character is not happy-go-lucky and is deeply damaged. * StarMakingRole: The film that brought Eva Green to the attention of Hollywood.
8th Jul '14 5:45:55 AM SeptimusHeap
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Role Association is no longer a trope. Feel free to readd under a better trope if such can be found.
* RoleAssociation: [[Film/LordOfTheRings Legolas]] goes to fight in the Crusades with his dad [[Creator/LiamNeeson Qui-gon Jinn]] and [[Film/HarryPotter Professor Lupin]]. Along the way he'll fall in love with [[Film/CasinoRoyale Vesper Lynd]], who is unhappily married to [[Film/TheLordOfTheRings Celeborn]], and try to protect her brother Film/TheIncredibleHulk While sparing [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Dr. Julian Bashir]] at one point. And he [[spoiler: kills]] his brother [[Film/{{Underworld}} Lucien]]. And [[Series/GameOfThrones Ser Jaime Lannister]] is the sheriff.
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