History Trivia / FourKidsEntertainment

5th Mar '17 4:41:46 PM TheJayman49
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: During their final years, 4Kids was actively trying to [[TheAtoner undo the damage they did]] by setting up their own legal streaming site with uncut episodes, even partnering with Funimation and Website/{{Crunchyroll}}, as well as proudly referring to their properties as "anime". Had they been able to continue without the legal issues, Toonzai could have very well been a spiritual successor to daytime Toonami, serving as a [[GatewaySeries gateway to anime for children]], while not alienating older fans.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: During their final years, 4Kids was actively trying to [[TheAtoner undo the damage they did]] by setting up their own legal streaming site with uncut episodes, even partnering with Funimation and Website/{{Crunchyroll}}, as well as proudly referring to their properties as "anime". Had they been able to continue without the legal issues, Toonzai could have very well been a spiritual successor to daytime Toonami, serving as a [[GatewaySeries gateway to anime for children]], while not alienating older fans.fans.
* WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings: The ''Anime/ShamanKing'' dub is considered one of 4Kids' better translations because of how little they changed; they ''tried'' to do a CutAndPasteTranslation, but the business about gritty violence, death and souls was woven into the plot so well that they simply ''couldn't''. Unfortunately, all this did was showcase why they go so far into {{Macekre}} territory with their dubs: the MoralGuardians absolutely ''railed'' 4Kids, and it wasn't helped by [=4KidsTV=] [[ScrewedByTheNetwork airing the show at the same timeslot]] as Kids WB's ''Anime/YuGiOh'', their biggest franchise. These things, coupled with 4Kids' less-than-stellar reputation, caused ''Shaman King'' to bomb in the US despite being of passable quality, and 4Kids was back to its usual antics in time for ''Anime/OnePiece''...
4th Mar '17 9:01:25 AM DarkPaladinX
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* HamAndCheese: It's generally agreed that while their localization can be criticized for massive censorship and editing, the voice acting itself in their dubs tend to be top quality. In fact, 4Kids is how Creator/DanGreen got a lot of fan recognition. Also help to note that the voice actors were paid higher than the typical union rates for anime voice work.



** 4Kids was known for paying its actors very well (at least in relation to other dubbing studios). This is why you'll never hear any NYC voice actor express regret for working on a 4Kids series. The scripts may be crap, and the editing jobs may be a joke, but at least you're well-compensated for it.

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** 4Kids was known for paying its actors very well (at least in relation to other dubbing studios).studios, even higher than the typical union-rates for doing anime voice work). This is why you'll never hear any NYC voice actor express regret for working on a 4Kids series. The scripts may be crap, and the editing jobs may be a joke, but at least you're well-compensated for it.
20th Feb '17 12:38:39 AM bwburke94
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* NamesTheSame: One of the executive producers for this show is Tom Kenny. No, [[WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls it's]] [[WesternAnimation/AdventureTime not]] ''[[WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants that]]'' Creator/TomKenny.
16th Jan '17 7:35:04 AM editproboss
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** According to Creator/MaddieBlaustein, 4Kids apparently DID dub the notorious episode of Pokemon with the seizure-inducing flashing lights. However, despite the lights being slowed down to "safe levels," the Japanese government banned the episode internationally, and the dub has never been discovered.

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** According to Creator/MaddieBlaustein, 4Kids apparently DID dub the notorious episode of Pokemon with the seizure-inducing flashing lights. However, despite the lights being slowed down to "safe levels," the Japanese government banned the episode was banned internationally, and the dub has never been discovered.
19th Nov '16 1:53:16 PM TheJayman49
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** Though this likewise seem to be their business philosophy as well. The heads of the company were only interested in how profitable a series could be rather than the quality of their products and the fandom of properties. And that's if they were even interested in the property at all (for example, they actually didn't want ''One Piece'', just ''Tokyo Mew Mew''. But Toei, wanting the anime to be shown in America as soon as possible, forced them to take it as part of the deal. As such even though the series was a major hit in Japan and had more than enough of a sizeable audience in the west the profit from, they put the barest minimum of work into the dub as they truly didn't care about owning the series. Some even speculate that they were purposefully trying to lose the license via self-sabotage).

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** Though this likewise seem to be their business philosophy as well. The heads of the company were only interested in how profitable a series could be rather than the quality of their products and the fandom of properties. And that's if they were even interested in the property at all (for example, they actually didn't want ''One Piece'', just ''Tokyo Mew Mew''. But Toei, wanting the anime to be shown in America as soon as possible, forced them to take it as part of the deal. As such even though the series was a major hit in Japan and had more than enough of a sizeable audience in the west the profit from, they put the barest minimum of work into the dub as they truly didn't care about owning the series. Some even speculate that they were purposefully trying to lose the license via self-sabotage).self-sabotage. If this was the case, then it worked [[GoneHorriblyRight a little too well]], considering the [[CreatorKiller damage]] it did to the company).
9th Oct '16 8:53:44 PM BNSF1995
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** According to Creator/MaddieBlaustein, 4Kids apparently DID dub the notorious episode of Pokemon with the seizure-inducing flashing lights. However, despite the lights being slowed down to "safe levels," the Japanese refused to let them air the episode, and the dub has never been discovered.

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** According to Creator/MaddieBlaustein, 4Kids apparently DID dub the notorious episode of Pokemon with the seizure-inducing flashing lights. However, despite the lights being slowed down to "safe levels," the Japanese refused to let them air government banned the episode, episode internationally, and the dub has never been discovered.
7th Sep '16 9:33:53 PM Isaac_Heller
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* MissingEpisode: They did this to some of their dubbed anime. ''Anime/YuGiOh'' and the subsequent SequelSeries had a few, but ther dub of ''Manga/OnePiece'' is infamous for throwing out entire ''story arcs''. This, combined with 4kids' refusal to release uncut versions of their shows (for the most part), not only created {{Plot Hole}}s, but made it so that these episodes would only stop being missing once Creator/{{Funimation}} got the rights.

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* MissingEpisode: They did this to some of their dubbed anime. The various ''Anime/YuGiOh'' and the subsequent SequelSeries had a few, but ther and their dub of ''Manga/OnePiece'' is infamous for throwing out entire ''story arcs''. This, combined with 4kids' refusal to release uncut versions of their shows (for the most part), not only created {{Plot Hole}}s, but made it so that these episodes would only stop being missing once Creator/{{Funimation}} got the rights.
2nd Sep '16 1:02:09 PM PrincessGwen
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** Though this likewise seem to be their business philosophy as well. The heads of the company were only interested in how profitable a series could be rather then the quality of their products and the fandom of properties. And that's if they were even interested in the property at all (for example, they actually didn't want ''One Piece'', just ''Tokyo Mew Mew''. But Toei, wanting the anime to be shown in America as soon as possible, forced them to take it as part of the deal. As such even though the series was a major hit in Japan and had more then enough of a sizeable audiene in the west the profit from. They put the barest minimum of work into the dub as they truly didn't care about owning the series. Some even speculate that they were purposefully trying to lose the license via self-sabotage).

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** Though this likewise seem to be their business philosophy as well. The heads of the company were only interested in how profitable a series could be rather then than the quality of their products and the fandom of properties. And that's if they were even interested in the property at all (for example, they actually didn't want ''One Piece'', just ''Tokyo Mew Mew''. But Toei, wanting the anime to be shown in America as soon as possible, forced them to take it as part of the deal. As such even though the series was a major hit in Japan and had more then than enough of a sizeable audiene audience in the west the profit from. They from, they put the barest minimum of work into the dub as they truly didn't care about owning the series. Some even speculate that they were purposefully trying to lose the license via self-sabotage).
10th Aug '16 10:49:06 PM rjd1922
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: During their final years, 4Kids was actively trying to [[TheAtoner undo the damage they did]] by setting up their own legal streaming site with uncut episodes, even partnering with Funimation and Crunchyroll, as well as proudly referring to their properties as "anime". Had they been able to continue without the legal issues, Toonzai could have very well been a spiritual successor to daytime Toonami, serving as a [[GatewaySeries gateway to anime for children]], while not alienating older fans.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: During their final years, 4Kids was actively trying to [[TheAtoner undo the damage they did]] by setting up their own legal streaming site with uncut episodes, even partnering with Funimation and Crunchyroll, Website/{{Crunchyroll}}, as well as proudly referring to their properties as "anime". Had they been able to continue without the legal issues, Toonzai could have very well been a spiritual successor to daytime Toonami, serving as a [[GatewaySeries gateway to anime for children]], while not alienating older fans.
10th Aug '16 10:46:31 PM rjd1922
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* ContractualPurity: Averted. Andrew Rannells currently stars in ''Series/TheNewNormal'' and previously ''Theatre/TheBookOfMormon'', some of their [=VAs=] have done hentai (Dan Green, for example), and Jason Griffith did a condom commercial.
** People more savvy of the industry may realize that most of the company's current VA's have worked at CentralParkMedia before (and this includes Dan Green as well); CPM distributed uncut productions mostly for pre-teen to older audiences, such as ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena'' among others.
* CreatorKiller: [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-12-31/4kids-yu-gi-oh-license-is-still-in-force-court-rules Almost subverted by]] ''Anime/YuGiOh''; TV Tokyo and NAS tried to yank the license, and 4Kids ultimately prevailed within the year, but the damage had been done, and they still ended up selling the rights to Konami for all Franchise/YuGiOh-related merchandise. While the production unit was reformed by Konami as [=4K Media=], the main company was reformed as [=4Licensing Corporation=] and plenty of their assets were sold to Saban, many of their units were shut down and the company is now a shell of its former self. Played straight with their dub of ''Manga/OnePiece'', which effectively solidified the company's then-brewing {{hatedom}}.
---> "[[http://www.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=16882 In the end, they were trying to make some money off a popular kids' show in Japan, but just ended up wasting their time and pissing off a well-sized community of people. Not that they really care.]]"

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* ContractualPurity: Averted. Andrew Rannells currently stars in ''Series/TheNewNormal'' and previously ''Theatre/TheBookOfMormon'', some of their [=VAs=] have done hentai (Dan Green, (Creator/DanGreen, for example), and Jason Griffith Creator/JasonGriffith did a condom commercial.
** People more savvy of the industry may realize that most of the company's current VA's have worked at CentralParkMedia Creator/CentralParkMedia before (and this includes Dan Green as well); CPM distributed uncut productions mostly for pre-teen to older audiences, such as ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena'' among others.
* CreatorKiller: [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-12-31/4kids-yu-gi-oh-license-is-still-in-force-court-rules Almost subverted by]] ''Anime/YuGiOh''; TV Tokyo and NAS tried to yank the license, and 4Kids ultimately prevailed within the year, but the damage had been done, and they still ended up selling the rights to Konami for all Franchise/YuGiOh-related ''Franchise/YuGiOh''-related merchandise. While the production unit was reformed by Konami as [=4K Media=], the main company was reformed as [=4Licensing Corporation=] and plenty of their assets were sold to Saban, many of their units were shut down and the company is now a shell of its former self. Played straight with their dub of ''Manga/OnePiece'', which effectively solidified the company's then-brewing {{hatedom}}.
---> --> "[[http://www.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=16882 In the end, they were trying to make some money off a popular kids' show in Japan, but just ended up wasting their time and pissing off a well-sized community of people. Not that they really care.]]"



** 4Kids went back and dubbed the previously skipped "Beauty and the Beach" episode of Pokemon (the one featuring James cross-dressing with inflatable boobs) with the Orange Islands episodes (with the aforementioned scene cut). However, it only aired once, and is not on DVD. TV rips can be found fairly easily online though.

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** 4Kids went back and dubbed the previously skipped "Beauty and the Beach" episode of Pokemon ''Pokémon'' (the one featuring James cross-dressing with inflatable boobs) with the Orange Islands episodes (with the aforementioned scene cut). However, it only aired once, and is not on DVD. TV rips can be found fairly easily online though.



** Though this likewise seem to be their business philosophy as well. The heads of the company were only interested in how profitable a series could be rather then the quality of their products and the fandom of properties. And that's if they were even interested in the property at all (for example, they actually didn't want ''One Piece'', just ''Tokyo Mew Mew''. But Toei, wanting the anime to be shown in America as soon as possible, forced them to take it as part of the deal. As such even though the series was a major hit in Japan and had more then enough of a sizeable audiene in the west the profit from. They put the barest minimum of work into the dub as they truly didn't care about owning the series. Some even speculate that they were purposefully trying to lose the license via self sabotage.).

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** Though this likewise seem to be their business philosophy as well. The heads of the company were only interested in how profitable a series could be rather then the quality of their products and the fandom of properties. And that's if they were even interested in the property at all (for example, they actually didn't want ''One Piece'', just ''Tokyo Mew Mew''. But Toei, wanting the anime to be shown in America as soon as possible, forced them to take it as part of the deal. As such even though the series was a major hit in Japan and had more then enough of a sizeable audiene in the west the profit from. They put the barest minimum of work into the dub as they truly didn't care about owning the series. Some even speculate that they were purposefully trying to lose the license via self sabotage.). self-sabotage).



* NoExportForYou: Due to their practice of making Youtube block certain videos from being played outside the U.S & Puerto Rico.

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* NoExportForYou: Due to their practice of making Youtube [=YouTube=] block certain videos from being played outside the U.S & Puerto Rico.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: During their final years, 4kids was actively trying to [[TheAtoner undo the damage they did]] by setting up their own legal streaming site with uncut episodes, even partnering with Funimation and Crunchyroll, as well as proudly referring to their properties as "anime". Had they been able to continue without the legal issues, Toonzai could have very well been a spiritual successor to daytime Toonami, serving as a [[GatewaySeries gateway to anime for children]], while not alienating older fans.

to:

* WhatCouldHaveBeen: During their final years, 4kids 4Kids was actively trying to [[TheAtoner undo the damage they did]] by setting up their own legal streaming site with uncut episodes, even partnering with Funimation and Crunchyroll, as well as proudly referring to their properties as "anime". Had they been able to continue without the legal issues, Toonzai could have very well been a spiritual successor to daytime Toonami, serving as a [[GatewaySeries gateway to anime for children]], while not alienating older fans.
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