History Trivia / FinalFantasyXII

16th Jul '16 5:09:08 PM wehrmacht
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* GodNeverSaidThat: It is a widely spread misconception that at some point, someone from Square-Enix said that Basch was supposed to be the original protagonist of the game, but was replaced with Vaan due to the ExecutiveMeddling. In reality, nothing of the sort has ever been said. There is some degree of truth to it however, since as the above entry notes, Vaan was originally conceived as an older and more rugged protagonist, but was changed due to genre expectations, and some of those early ideas seem to have influenced Basch's character.
16th Jul '16 5:04:52 PM wehrmacht
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* ExecutiveMeddling: Why Vaan and Penelo exist--the original protagonist was going to be Basch, but the developers were concerned that an older hero wouldn't go over well with Japanese audiences, since [=JRPGs=] usually have younger, {{Bishonen}} heroes. They become proper characters in their own right in the {{Gaiden Game}}s. This trope, combined with tightening the loose ends that come with six years of DevelopmentHell is why the International version of the game is markedly different from the original game.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: Why Vaan and Penelo exist--the original protagonist exist the way they do--Vaan was going to be Basch, originally conceived as a more rugged, world-weary and cynical character, but the developers were concerned that an older hero wouldn't go over well with Japanese audiences, since [=JRPGs=] usually have younger, {{Bishonen}} heroes. They become proper characters in their own right in the {{Gaiden Game}}s. This trope, combined with tightening the loose ends that come with six years of DevelopmentHell is why the International version of the game is markedly different from the original game.
17th May '16 10:45:26 PM TatsuyaSuou
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* TroubledProduction: ''XII'' has the rockiest development of any ''FF'' game to date, thanks to the collapse of Squaresoft (courtesy of ''Anime/FinalFantasyTheSpiritsWithin'') and its merger with Enix, creative differences with series creator Hironobu Sakaguchi (who resigned and was replaced by Akitoshi Kawazu), and the rough equivalent of $35,000,000 US spent to make the game happen. Five years is a preposterously long time considering how Square had been producing main series ''FF'' games at a steady clip of every two years. To put it in perspective, ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' was released in 2001, the first year of the [=PS2=]'s life cycle, whilst the much-promised ''XII'' was released in the run-up to the [=PS3=]'s launch and (At least outside of Japan) ''after'' the announcements of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'' & ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV'' (Then ''Versus XIII''). In fact, ''Final Fantasy XV'' is the only game in the series to have been in deveopment for longer than ''XII'', at seven years & counting as of 2013.

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* TroubledProduction: ''XII'' has the rockiest development of any ''FF'' game to date, thanks to the collapse of Squaresoft (courtesy of ''Anime/FinalFantasyTheSpiritsWithin'') and its merger with Enix, creative differences with series creator Hironobu Sakaguchi (who resigned and was replaced by Akitoshi Kawazu), and the rough equivalent of $35,000,000 US spent to make the game happen. Five years is a preposterously long time considering how Square had been producing main series ''FF'' games at a steady clip of every two years. To put it in perspective, ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' was released in 2001, the first year of the [=PS2=]'s life cycle, whilst the much-promised ''XII'' was released in the run-up to the [=PS3=]'s launch and (At least outside of Japan) ''after'' the announcements of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'' & ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV'' (Then ''Versus XIII''). In fact, ''Final Fantasy XV'' is the only game in the series to have been in deveopment development for longer than ''XII'', at seven ten years & counting as of 2013.2016.
12th Apr '16 4:55:15 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* HeyItsThatVoice:
** English
*** Gilgamesh is [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} Bender]] and it's ''really'' obvious. And [[RuleOfCool totally awesome.]]
*** [[JohnDiMaggio Dimaggio]] also voiced Migelo, likely making him a closeted {{Badass}}.
*** Also, Reddas is [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} Hermes Conrad]].
*** Basch is Bloo from ''WesternAnimation/FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends''.
*** Ashe is [[JeanneDArc Joan of Arc]], [[Anime/LastExile Vanship mechanic]], [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia Raine]], [[VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins Elora]], [[Ben10UltimateAlien Charmcaster]] and also [[Anime/{{FLCL}} could easily kick your ass with a guitar.]]
*** Judge Zargabaath is [[VideoGame/LegacyOfKain Kain]] and [[VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins Loghain]].
*** Judge Ghis is Galactic President [[Radio/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy Zaphod Beeblebrox]]
*** Judge Bergan is [[WesternAnimation/{{TheDreamstone}} Zordrak, Lord of Nightmares]].
*** {{Toku}} fans might recognize Vaan better if he [[Series/KamenRiderKiva carried a violin and hit on every woman he met]].
*** This is a bit out of order release date wise, but Balthier is [[VideoGame/DragonAgeII Fenris]]. [[spoiler:Fleeing from a traumatic past]] seems to be Gideon Emery's thing. He's also [[VideoGame/GodOfWar Poseidon]] and [[Videogame/DynastyWarriors Sun Quan]]
*** [[Creator/TomKane Marquis Ondore]] is...[[WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls Professor Utonium.]] Seriously.
*** A long time ago in a galaxy far, far way, Penelo was [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Mission Vao]], another perky street urchin.
*** [[Creator/YuriLowenthal Reks]] just so happened to be [[VideoGame/SlyCooperThievesInTime a medieval raccoon thief]] going after a BlackKnight [[spoiler: who shares her name with Penelo]].
** Japanese
*** Vaan was once a professional violinist [[Series/KamenRiderKiva who battled the Fangire menace years past]].
*** [[Creator/HiroakiHirata Balthier]] is also a Sky Pirate in a [[Franchise/JakAndDaxter different universe]], and another suave pirate in [[Manga/OnePiece another universe]]. He's also a [[Anime/TigerAndBunny a veteran superhero who's past his prime]]. Still the cool leading man all the way.
*** [[Creator/MieSonozaki Ashe]] is known to [[Franchise/SlyCooper chase raccoon thieves across the globe]]. She is also known as [[Manga/{{Bleach}} the most beautiful zanpakuto in Soul Society]].
*** [[Creator/RikiyaKoyama Basch]] is a [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight guilt-ridden sorcerer]] who redeems himself by sparking in his son ideals of becoming a hero of justice.
*** [[Creator/RikaFukami Fran]], the [[Anime/SailorMoon Agent of Love and Beauty]], will punish you in the name of Love!
*** [[Creator/AkioOhtsuka Gabranth]] enjoys spending his days [[Manga/{{Bleach}} flirting with the ladies in the Eighth Division barracks]], but can definitely be serious when the situation calls for it.
*** [[Creator/YukaImai Larsa]] might not have shown his grief outwardly at his brother's death, but [[Manga/PeacemakerKurogane show him his highly-regarded and idolized master murdered and he goes insane]].
1st Feb '16 2:08:38 PM frogwidget
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** Somewhat VindicatedByHistory as Vaan became popular enough in his native Japan to be the game's representative in the Versus series and later, Final Fantasy Explorers.
18th Oct '15 1:08:38 PM nombretomado
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*** [[Creator/TomKane Marquis Ondore]] is...[[ThePowerpuffGirls Professor Utonium.]] Seriously.

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*** [[Creator/TomKane Marquis Ondore]] is...[[ThePowerpuffGirls [[WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls Professor Utonium.]] Seriously.
3rd Jul '15 5:13:20 PM nombretomado
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*** Ashe is [[JeanneDArc Joan of Arc]], [[LastExile Vanship mechanic]], [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia Raine]], [[VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins Elora]], [[Ben10UltimateAlien Charmcaster]] and also [[Anime/{{FLCL}} could easily kick your ass with a guitar.]]

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*** Ashe is [[JeanneDArc Joan of Arc]], [[LastExile [[Anime/LastExile Vanship mechanic]], [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia Raine]], [[VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins Elora]], [[Ben10UltimateAlien Charmcaster]] and also [[Anime/{{FLCL}} could easily kick your ass with a guitar.]]
18th Mar '15 7:40:35 PM nombretomado
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*** Basch is Bloo from ''FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends''.

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*** Basch is Bloo from ''FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends''.''WesternAnimation/FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends''.
24th Dec '14 8:26:33 PM MissHimitsu
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*** [[[[Creator/AkioOhtsuka Gabranth]] enjoys spending his days [[Manga/{{Bleach}} flirting with the ladies in the Eighth Division barracks]], but can definitely be serious when the situation calls for it.
*** [[Creator/YukaImai Larsa]] might not have shown his grief outwardly at his brother's death, but [[Manga/PeacemakerKurogane show him his highly-regarded and idolized master murdered and he goes insane]].
24th Dec '14 8:09:30 PM MissHimitsu
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*** Vaan was once a professional violinist [[Series/KamenRiderKiva who battled the Fangire menace years past]].



*** [[Creator/MieSonozaki Ashe]] is known to [[Franchise/SlyCooper chase raccoon thieves across the globe]]. She is also known as [[Manga/Bleach the most beautiful zanpakuto in Soul Society]].

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*** [[Creator/MieSonozaki Ashe]] is known to [[Franchise/SlyCooper chase raccoon thieves across the globe]]. She is also known as [[Manga/Bleach [[Manga/{{Bleach}} the most beautiful zanpakuto in Soul Society]].


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*** [[Creator/RikaFukami Fran]], the [[Anime/SailorMoon Agent of Love and Beauty]], will punish you in the name of Love!
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