History Trivia / DisneyAnimatedCanon

14th Nov '16 8:09:31 AM Prinzenick
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** The son of Carlo Collodi, the author of the original ''Literature/TheAdventuresOfPinocchio'' book, hated the [[Disney/{{Pinocchio}} Disney adaptation]] for playing fast and loose with his dads story, and even unsuccessfully tried to sue the studio for misrepresenting his fathers work.



** The descendants of Creator/VictorHugo bashed Disney in an open letter to the Libération newspaper for their ancestor getting no mention on the advertisement posters for [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame the Disney adaptation]] of ''Literature/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'', and they harsly criticized the film itself as a vulgar commercialization of Victor Hugo's story.

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** The descendants of Creator/VictorHugo bashed Disney in an open letter to the Libération newspaper for their ancestor getting no mention on the advertisement posters for [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame the Disney adaptation]] of ''Literature/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'', and they harsly harshly criticized the film itself as a vulgar commercialization of Victor Hugo's story.
6th Nov '16 10:07:48 AM mlsmithca
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* CanonForeigner: ''Disney/{{Dinosaur}}'' is the only entry in the canon that was not made by Feature Animation - they produced the film, but it was animated by Disney's Secret Lab (formerly Creator/DreamQuestImages), a short-lived special effects department that worked on CG imagery and was intended to be a sort-of cross between Creator/{{Pixar}} and Creator/IndustrialLightAndMagic. Secret Lab was shut down long before [[HilariousInHindsight Disney bought both of those companies]], and ''Dinosaur'' was the only animated film they ever worked on.

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''Disney/{{Dinosaur}}'' is the only entry in the canon that was not made by Feature Animation - they produced the film, but it was animated by Disney's Secret Lab (formerly Creator/DreamQuestImages), a short-lived special effects department that worked on CG imagery and was intended to be a sort-of cross between Creator/{{Pixar}} and Creator/IndustrialLightAndMagic. Secret Lab was shut down long before [[HilariousInHindsight Disney bought both of those companies]], and ''Dinosaur'' was the only animated film they ever worked on.



-->''"I think Alice got what she deserved. I never wanted to make it in the first place, but everybody said I should. I tried to introduce a little sentiment into it by getting Alice involved with the White Knight, but they said we couldn't tamper with a classic. So we just kept moving it at circus pace."''

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-->''"I --->"I think Alice got what she deserved. I never wanted to make it in the first place, but everybody said I should. I tried to introduce a little sentiment into it by getting Alice involved with the White Knight, but they said we couldn't tamper with a classic. So we just kept moving it at circus pace."''"



-->"I drew with great excitement, thinking how good it was to work on a Disney feature. When Robin Hood was completed I decided it did not look the greatest of films. The heart wasn’t in it. It had technique, the characters were well drawn, the Xerox process retained the fine lines so I could see all of the self indulgence of the animators, each one saying, “Look how great I am,” but the story itself had no soul."

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-->"I --->"I drew with great excitement, thinking how good it was to work on a Disney feature. When Robin Hood was completed I decided it did not look the greatest of films. The heart wasn’t wasn't in it. It had technique, the characters were well drawn, the Xerox process retained the fine lines so I could see all of the self indulgence of the animators, each one saying, “Look how great I am,” but the story itself had no soul."



** Per word of Creator/ChuckJones in his book ''Chuck Jones Conversations'' (who did his own animated adaptations of Kipling's stories), Kipling's daughter hated [[Disney/TheJungleBook the Disney adaptation]] of [[Literature/TheJungleBook The Jungle Book]] for being an InNameOnly adaptation of her father's work.
-->"Before we started our film, I discovered that Kipling's daughter was still alive and called her. In an elegant, British Dowager-like voice, she confirmed my pronunciation (of Mowgli's name) and added "and, I hate Walter Disney." It was the only time I ever heard anybody call him Walter. In her lifetime, she said nobody ever pronounced anything but Mauwgli."

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** Per word of Creator/ChuckJones in his book ''Chuck Jones Conversations'' (who did his own animated adaptations of Kipling's stories), stories) in his book ''Chuck Jones Conversations'', Kipling's daughter hated [[Disney/TheJungleBook the Disney adaptation]] of [[Literature/TheJungleBook The Jungle Book]] for being an InNameOnly adaptation of her father's work.
-->"Before --->"Before we started our film, I discovered that Kipling's daughter was still alive and called her. In an elegant, British Dowager-like voice, she confirmed my pronunciation (of Mowgli's name) and added "and, I hate Walter Disney." It was the only time I ever heard anybody call him Walter. In her lifetime, she said nobody ever pronounced anything but Mauwgli."
6th Nov '16 8:09:11 AM Prinzenick
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** Animator Will Finn enjoyed working on Disney/TheLittleMermaid, but he stated on his Small Room blog that he was not happy with his animation of Grimbsy, saying there are only one or two scenes he did that don't make him cringe today.
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** Per word of Creator/ChuckJones in his book ''Chuck Jones Conversations'' (who did his own animated adaptations of Kipling's stories), Kipling's daughter hated [[Disney/TheJungleBook the Disney adaptation]] of [[Literature/TheJungleBook The Jungle Book]] for being an InNameOnly adaptation of her father's work.
-->"Before we started our film, I discovered that Kipling's daughter was still alive and called her. In an elegant, British Dowager-like voice, she confirmed my pronunciation (of Mowgli's name) and added "and, I hate Walter Disney." It was the only time I ever heard anybody call him Walter. In her lifetime, she said nobody ever pronounced anything but Mauwgli."
** The descendants of Creator/VictorHugo bashed Disney in an open letter to the Libération newspaper for their ancestor getting no mention on the advertisement posters for [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame the Disney adaptation]] of ''Literature/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'', and they harsly criticized the film itself as a vulgar commercialization of Victor Hugo's story.
11th Oct '16 3:57:28 PM jameygamer
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** [[Disney/SaludosAmigos The]] [[Disney/TheThreeCaballeros package]] [[Disney/MakeMineMusic movies]]. [[Disney/FunAndFancyFree All]] [[Disney/MelodyTime of]] [[Disney/TheAdventuresOfIchabodAndMrToad them]]. With the exception of the ''Caballeros'' films (which were released together on 1 DVD in 2008 with minimal advertising), the last home video release of these movies is 2000, as a part of the WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyGoldClassicCollection VHS & DVD line, and Disney did not promote any of these releases, hence the movies are only known by animation enthusiasts and collectors nowadays. It's becoming rather odd since various characters from the package movies are represented at the Disney theme parks and ''The Three Caballeros'' is actually an EnsembleDarkhorse in the canon. [[note]]The infamous Mr. Toad ride in Disneyland is a good example, but coming across face characters of the ''Three Caballeros'' while visiting Disney World is also not out of the question.[[/note]]

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** [[Disney/SaludosAmigos The]] [[Disney/TheThreeCaballeros package]] [[Disney/MakeMineMusic movies]]. [[Disney/FunAndFancyFree All]] [[Disney/MelodyTime of]] [[Disney/TheAdventuresOfIchabodAndMrToad them]]. With the exception of the ''Caballeros'' films (which were released together on 1 DVD in 2008 with minimal advertising), the last home video release of most of these movies is 2000, as a part of the WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyGoldClassicCollection VHS & DVD line, and Disney did not promote any of these releases, hence the movies are only known by animation enthusiasts and collectors nowadays. ''Fun and Fancy Free'' and ''TAOIAMT'' were, however, finally released in 2014 as the first package films to reach BluRay. It's becoming rather odd since various characters from the package movies are represented at the Disney theme parks and ''The Three Caballeros'' is actually an EnsembleDarkhorse in the canon.canon, being the only one that had a theatrical reissue schedule like the primary Disney films. [[note]]The infamous Mr. Toad ride in Disneyland is a good example, but coming across face characters of the ''Three Caballeros'' while visiting Disney World is also not out of the question.[[/note]]
11th Oct '16 3:53:28 PM jameygamer
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* CanonForeigner: ''Disney/{{Dinosaur}}'' is the only entry in the canon that was not made by Feature Animation - they produced the film, but it was animated by Disney's Secret Lab (formerly Creator/DreamQuestImages), a short-lived special effects department that worked on CG imagery and was intended to be a sort-of cross between Creator/{{Pixar}} and Creator/IndustrialLightAndMagic. Secret Lab was shut down long before [[HilariousInHindsight Disney bought both of those companies]], and ''Dinosaur'' was they only animated film they ever worked on.

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* CanonForeigner: ''Disney/{{Dinosaur}}'' is the only entry in the canon that was not made by Feature Animation - they produced the film, but it was animated by Disney's Secret Lab (formerly Creator/DreamQuestImages), a short-lived special effects department that worked on CG imagery and was intended to be a sort-of cross between Creator/{{Pixar}} and Creator/IndustrialLightAndMagic. Secret Lab was shut down long before [[HilariousInHindsight Disney bought both of those companies]], and ''Dinosaur'' was they the only animated film they ever worked on.



** Creator/WaltDisney didn't think much of ''Disney/{{Dumbo}}'', seeing it as a filler feature to make up for the losses of Pinocchio and Fantasia and to get the money to allow what he considered his MagnumOpus, ''Disney/{{Bambi}}'', to be completed. That he was very hands off with it compared to his other films, combined with it being made during the devasting 1941 studio strike didn't help either.

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** Creator/WaltDisney didn't think much of ''Disney/{{Dumbo}}'', seeing it as a filler feature to make up for the losses of Pinocchio ''Pinocchio'' and Fantasia ''Fantasia'' and to get the money to allow what he considered his MagnumOpus, ''Disney/{{Bambi}}'', to be completed. That he was very hands off with it compared to his other films, combined with it being made during the devasting devastating 1941 studio strike didn't help either.



** ''Disney/TheFoxAndTheHound'': Several notable animators, including [[Creator/{{Pixar}} John Lasseter]], Creator/DonBluth and Creator/TimBurton, rarely speak kindly of this film, citing its tight-budgeted animation, which all but did away with the innovative technology the company had invented, as the final sign that Disney had become a [[{{Flanderization}} shell of its former self]]. Bluth, in particular, took it the hardest by leading a walk-out of several other animators who followed him to work on ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'' during this film's production, beginning a long and bitter rivalry between him and the studio which went on until he retired in 2000.
** ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron'' is not held in high regard by either its staff or the company as a whole, not helping that it was one of the biggest flops that Disney ever experienced.

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** ''Disney/TheFoxAndTheHound'': Several notable animators, including [[Creator/{{Pixar}} John Lasseter]], Creator/DonBluth and Creator/TimBurton, rarely speak kindly of this film, citing its tight-budgeted animation, which all but did away with the innovative technology the company had invented, as the final sign that Disney had become a [[{{Flanderization}} shell of its former self]]. Bluth, in particular, took it the hardest by leading a walk-out of several other animators who followed him to work on ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'' during this film's production, beginning a long and bitter rivalry between him and the studio which went on until he retired in 2000.
2000. Burton also bailed during production of this film, which is the last one made before the 1984 management shift
** ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron'' is not held in high regard by either its staff or the company as a whole, not helping that it was one of the biggest flops that Disney ever experienced.experienced and destroyed the careers of its producer, Joe Hale (who had an editing run-in with Jeffrey Katzenberg that didn't help his chances), and co-directors Ted Berman and Richard Rich.
29th Sep '16 6:23:36 AM mlsmithca
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** Creator/WaltDisney didn't think much of Disney/{{Dumbo}}, seeing it as a filler feature to make up for the losses of Pinocchio and Fantasia and to get the money to allow what he considered his MagnumOpus, Disney/{{Bambi}}, to be completed. That he was very hands off with it compared to his other films, combined with it being made during the devasting 1941 studio strike didn't help either.
** Disney/AliceInWonderland was another film Walt was dissatisfied with, feeling the film was cold. He even said he was glad it failed at the box office.

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** Creator/WaltDisney didn't think much of Disney/{{Dumbo}}, ''Disney/{{Dumbo}}'', seeing it as a filler feature to make up for the losses of Pinocchio and Fantasia and to get the money to allow what he considered his MagnumOpus, Disney/{{Bambi}}, ''Disney/{{Bambi}}'', to be completed. That he was very hands off with it compared to his other films, combined with it being made during the devasting 1941 studio strike didn't help either.
** Disney/AliceInWonderland ''Disney/AliceInWonderland'' was another film Walt was dissatisfied with, feeling the film was cold. He even said he was glad it failed at the box office.



** Disney/PeterPan was another one he didn't care for, mainly because he felt Peter was a cold and unlikable character. Disney animator Marc Davis said in an interview that he feels this way toward the Indians in the film, saying that they would have portrayed them differently if the film were made today.
** According to "Before the Animation Begins", Walt absolutely hated the Xerox process and art direction of 101 Dalmatians, mainly because he felt it went against one of his goals--to convince the audience they aren't seeing drawings on screen.
** In [[http://www.animatormag.com/archive/issue-26/issue-26-page-24/ issue 26]] of the magazine "Animator", Creator/DonBluth expressed dissatisfaction with working on Disney's ''[[Disney/RobinHood Robin Hood]]'';

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** Disney/PeterPan ''Disney/PeterPan'' was another one he didn't care for, mainly because he felt Peter was a cold and unlikable character. Disney animator Marc Davis said in an interview that he feels this way toward the Indians in the film, saying that they would have portrayed them differently if the film were made today.
** According to "Before the Animation Begins", Walt absolutely hated the Xerox process and art direction of 101 Dalmatians, ''101 Dalmatians'', mainly because he felt it went against one of his goals--to convince the audience they aren't seeing drawings on screen.
** In [[http://www.animatormag.com/archive/issue-26/issue-26-page-24/ issue 26]] of the magazine "Animator", Creator/DonBluth expressed dissatisfaction with working on Disney's ''[[Disney/RobinHood Robin Hood]]'';''Disney/RobinHood'';



** Disney/TheFoxAndTheHound: Several notable animators, including [[Creator/{{Pixar}} John Lasseter]], Creator/DonBluth and Creator/TimBurton, rarely speak kindly of this film, citing its tight-budgeted animation, which all but did away with the innovative technology the company had invented, as the final sign that Disney had become a [[{{Flanderization}} shell of its former self]]. Bluth, in particular, took it the hardest by leading a walk-out of several other animators who followed him to work on ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'' during this film's production, beginning a long and bitter rivalry between him and the studio which went on until he retired in 2000.
** Disney/TheBlackCauldron is not held in high regard by either its staff or the company as a whole, not helping that it was one of the biggest flops that Disney ever experienced.

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** Disney/TheFoxAndTheHound: ''Disney/TheFoxAndTheHound'': Several notable animators, including [[Creator/{{Pixar}} John Lasseter]], Creator/DonBluth and Creator/TimBurton, rarely speak kindly of this film, citing its tight-budgeted animation, which all but did away with the innovative technology the company had invented, as the final sign that Disney had become a [[{{Flanderization}} shell of its former self]]. Bluth, in particular, took it the hardest by leading a walk-out of several other animators who followed him to work on ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'' during this film's production, beginning a long and bitter rivalry between him and the studio which went on until he retired in 2000.
** Disney/TheBlackCauldron ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron'' is not held in high regard by either its staff or the company as a whole, not helping that it was one of the biggest flops that Disney ever experienced.
8th Sep '16 9:09:27 AM Prinzenick
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->''"I think Alice got what she deserved. I never wanted to make it in the first place, but everybody said I should. I tried to introduce a little sentiment into it by getting Alice involved with the White Knight, but they said we couldn't tamper with a classic. So we just kept moving it at circus pace."''

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->''"I -->''"I think Alice got what she deserved. I never wanted to make it in the first place, but everybody said I should. I tried to introduce a little sentiment into it by getting Alice involved with the White Knight, but they said we couldn't tamper with a classic. So we just kept moving it at circus pace."''
8th Sep '16 9:09:13 AM Prinzenick
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** In [[http://www.animatormag.com/archive/issue-26/issue-26-page-24/ issue 26]] of the magazine "Animator", Creator/DonBluth expressed dissatisfaction with working on Disney's ''[[Disney/RobinHood Robin Hood]]'';
-->"I drew with great excitement, thinking how good it was to work on a Disney feature. When Robin Hood was completed I decided it did not look the greatest of films. The heart wasn’t in it. It had technique, the characters were well drawn, the Xerox process retained the fine lines so I could see all of the self indulgence of the animators, each one saying, “Look how great I am,” but the story itself had no soul."
** Disney/TheFoxAndTheHound: Several notable animators, including [[Creator/{{Pixar}} John Lasseter]], Creator/DonBluth and Creator/TimBurton, rarely speak kindly of this film, citing its tight-budgeted animation, which all but did away with the innovative technology the company had invented, as the final sign that Disney had become a [[{{Flanderization}} shell of its former self]]. Bluth, in particular, took it the hardest by leading a walk-out of several other animators who followed him to work on ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'' during this film's production, beginning a long and bitter rivalry between him and the studio which went on until he retired in 2000.
8th Sep '16 9:05:35 AM Prinzenick
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** Creator/WaltDisney didn't think much of Disney/{{Dumbo}}, seeing it as a filler feature to make up for the losses of Pinocchio and Fantasia and to get the money to allow what he considered his MagnumOpus, Disney/{{Bambi}}, to be completed.

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** Creator/WaltDisney didn't think much of Disney/{{Dumbo}}, seeing it as a filler feature to make up for the losses of Pinocchio and Fantasia and to get the money to allow what he considered his MagnumOpus, Disney/{{Bambi}}, to be completed. That he was very hands off with it compared to his other films, combined with it being made during the devasting 1941 studio strike didn't help either.



** Disney/PeterPan was another one he didn't care for, mainly because he felt Peter was an unlikable character.
** According to "Before the Animation Begins", Walt absolutely hated the Xerox process and art direction of Disney/101Dalmatians, mainly because he felt it went against one of his goals--to convince the audience they aren't seeing drawings on screen.

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->''"I think Alice got what she deserved. I never wanted to make it in the first place, but everybody said I should. I tried to introduce a little sentiment into it by getting Alice involved with the White Knight, but they said we couldn't tamper with a classic. So we just kept moving it at circus pace."''
** Disney/PeterPan was another one he didn't care for, mainly because he felt Peter was an a cold and unlikable character.
character. Disney animator Marc Davis said in an interview that he feels this way toward the Indians in the film, saying that they would have portrayed them differently if the film were made today.
** According to "Before the Animation Begins", Walt absolutely hated the Xerox process and art direction of Disney/101Dalmatians, 101 Dalmatians, mainly because he felt it went against one of his goals--to convince the audience they aren't seeing drawings on screen.
8th Sep '16 9:02:44 AM Prinzenick
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* CreatorBacklash: Several of the films have gotten this.
** Creator/WaltDisney didn't think much of Disney/{{Dumbo}}, seeing it as a filler feature to make up for the losses of Pinocchio and Fantasia and to get the money to allow what he considered his MagnumOpus, Disney/{{Bambi}}, to be completed.
** Disney/AliceInWonderland was another film Walt was dissatisfied with, feeling the film was cold. He even said he was glad it failed at the box office.
** Disney/PeterPan was another one he didn't care for, mainly because he felt Peter was an unlikable character.
** According to "Before the Animation Begins", Walt absolutely hated the Xerox process and art direction of Disney/101Dalmatians, mainly because he felt it went against one of his goals--to convince the audience they aren't seeing drawings on screen.
** Disney/TheBlackCauldron is not held in high regard by either its staff or the company as a whole, not helping that it was one of the biggest flops that Disney ever experienced.
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