History Trivia / DisneyAnimatedCanon

5th Nov '17 4:23:56 AM 123456789
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** The canon attempted to un-kill the art form several years later, but only got as far as ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'' and ''Disney/WinnieThePooh'' before deciding that yes, traditional animation was dead. As a rather bitter Creator/JimCummings pointed out, [[ScrewedByTheNetwork they brought the revival's death on themselves]] by putting the new traditionally-animated movies into duels they couldn't possibly win with ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' and ''Film/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallowsPart2''.

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** The canon attempted to un-kill the art form several years later, but only got as far as ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'' and ''Disney/WinnieThePooh'' before deciding that yes, traditional animation was dead. As a rather bitter Creator/JimCummings pointed out, [[ScrewedByTheNetwork they brought the revival's death on themselves]] by putting the new traditionally-animated movies into duels [[CurbStompBattle they couldn't possibly win win]] with ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' and ''Film/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallowsPart2''.''Film/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallowsPart2''. Some even think that the canon already believes that traditional animation was dead and decided to duel with those films.
29th Oct '17 4:41:57 AM jormis29
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* AllStarCast: Although not as blatantly advertized and abused as Creator/DreamWorksAnimation, the movies in the canon will occasionally have a staggering roster of A-list celebrities lending their vocal talent. Before 1992's ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'' introduced Robin Williams as the Genie, Disney preferred actual voice actors, with the oldest films having actors who were theater mainstays or those who were experienced with singing and providing voice work on radio shows. After that, they started to increasingly advertise celebrity roles. Some of the more blatant examples: Mandy Moore and Zachary Levi as the leads in ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'', Music/MileyCyrus in ''Disney/{{Bolt}}'' (particularly egregious because she replaced [[Creator/ChloeMoretz a voice actor]] who had already recorded most of her lines) and perhaps Creator/MelGibson in ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}''.

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* AllStarCast: Although not as blatantly advertized and abused as Creator/DreamWorksAnimation, the movies in the canon will occasionally have a staggering roster of A-list celebrities lending their vocal talent. Before 1992's ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'' introduced Robin Williams as the Genie, Disney preferred actual voice actors, with the oldest films having actors who were theater mainstays or those who were experienced with singing and providing voice work on radio shows. After that, they started to increasingly advertise celebrity roles. Some of the more blatant examples: Mandy Moore Music/MandyMoore and Zachary Levi Creator/ZacharyLevi as the leads in ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'', Music/MileyCyrus in ''Disney/{{Bolt}}'' (particularly egregious because she replaced [[Creator/ChloeMoretz a voice actor]] who had already recorded most of her lines) and perhaps Creator/MelGibson in ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}''.
28th Sep '17 6:56:07 AM 123456789
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** The fifth wasn't a single film but the large amount of commercial and/or critical disappointments that lasted for years after Jeffrey Katzenberg left. [[http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/business/media/at-disney-a-celebration-that-was-a-long-time-coming.html?hpw&rref=movies&_r=0 Once Pixar was officially integrated into Disney, there were once again talks of permanently shutting down the studios]]. Thankfully, [[Creator/{{ABC}} Bob Iger]], [[Creator/PixarRegulars John Lasseter, and Ed Catmull]] decided to work on reviving the studios instead of killing it. Years later, ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'', ''Disney/WreckItRalph'', ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', ''Disney/BigHero6'', and ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' were released, showing that the studios was once again at the top of their game.

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** The fifth wasn't a single film but the large amount of commercial and/or critical disappointments that lasted for years after Jeffrey Katzenberg left.left Disney and started Creator/DreamWorks. [[http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/business/media/at-disney-a-celebration-that-was-a-long-time-coming.html?hpw&rref=movies&_r=0 Once Pixar was officially integrated into Disney, there were once again talks of permanently shutting down the studios]]. Thankfully, [[Creator/{{ABC}} Bob Iger]], [[Creator/PixarRegulars John Lasseter, and Ed Catmull]] decided to work on reviving the studios with the Pixar charm instead of killing it.shutting it down [[ToughActToFollow out of being ]] [[OvershadowedByAwesome overshadowed by Pixar]]. Years later, ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'', ''Disney/WreckItRalph'', ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', ''Disney/BigHero6'', and ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' were released, showing that the studios was once again at the top of their game.
16th Aug '17 10:41:44 AM Folamh3
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* UncreditedRole: Until 1984, there was a rule that animators had to draw at least 100 feet of film (roughly 68 seconds) in order to be credited. There are other specific examples on their own work pages.
28th Jul '17 9:45:50 PM RisefromYourGrave
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** A meta-example. The Disney Revival films "Disney/{{Zootopia}}" and "Disney/{{Moana}}" are an interesting mirror of the Disney Renaissance films "Disney/TheLionKing" and "Disney/{{Pocahontas}}". Each set of films had the situation where a "talking animals" film was released and only expected to be a "filler" film that came before the next highly anticipated "princess" film. In each case, the "talking animals" film became a massively successful SleeperHit that surpassed its respective "princess" film. "Moana" took in a very respectful $640 million worldwide but was outdone by "Zootopia" which took in $1.02 billion. "Pocahontas" was a moderate success with $346 million and was eclipsed by "Lion King's" $968 million.
** A meta example: The last time Disney Animation Studios had two of its films nominated for "Best Animated Feature" in the same year was back in 2002 with ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'' and ''Disney/TreasurePlanet''. In 2016, almost 15 years later, they had ''Disney/{{Moana}}'' and ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}''. Both times, Disney had a film in the running with a Polynesian protagonist and a strong Polynesian influence. Bonus points for Ron Clement who was a director for both ''Treasure Planet'' and ''Moana''.

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** A meta-example. The Disney Revival films "Disney/{{Zootopia}}" ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' and "Disney/{{Moana}}" ''Disney/{{Moana}}'' are an interesting mirror of the Disney Renaissance films "Disney/TheLionKing" ''Disney/TheLionKing'' and "Disney/{{Pocahontas}}".''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}''. Each set of films had the situation where a "talking animals" film was released and only expected to be a "filler" film that came before the next highly anticipated "princess" film. In each case, the "talking animals" film became a massively successful SleeperHit that surpassed its respective "princess" film. "Moana" ''Moana'' took in a very respectful $640 million worldwide but was outdone by "Zootopia" which took in $1.02 billion. "Pocahontas" ''Pocahontas'' was a moderate success with $346 million and was eclipsed by "Lion King's" ''Lion King''[='=]s $968 million.
** A meta example: The last time Disney Animation Studios had two of its films nominated for "Best Animated Feature" in the same year was back in 2002 with ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'' and ''Disney/TreasurePlanet''. In 2016, almost 15 years later, they had ''Disney/{{Moana}}'' and ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}''. Both times, Disney had a film in the running with a Polynesian protagonist and a strong Polynesian influence. Bonus points for Ron Clement Clements who was a director for both ''Treasure Planet'' and ''Moana''. ''Moana'' (both of which included a reference to ''Lilo & Stitch'' in the beginning of their films with their protagonists in their youth).
25th Jul '17 4:44:35 PM QueenBEAUTY
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* AllStarCast: Although not as blatantly advertized and abused as Creator/DreamWorksAnimation, the movies in the canon will occasionally have a staggering roster of A-list celebrities lending their vocal talent. Before 1992's ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'' introduced Robin Williams as the Genie, Disney preferred actual voice actors. After that, they started to increasingly advertise celebrity roles. Some of the more blatant examples: Mandy Moore and Zachary Levi as the leads in ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'', Music/MileyCyrus in ''Disney/{{Bolt}}'' (particularly egregious because she replaced [[Creator/ChloeMoretz a voice actor]] who had already recorded most of her lines) and perhaps Creator/MelGibson in ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}''.

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* AllStarCast: Although not as blatantly advertized and abused as Creator/DreamWorksAnimation, the movies in the canon will occasionally have a staggering roster of A-list celebrities lending their vocal talent. Before 1992's ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'' introduced Robin Williams as the Genie, Disney preferred actual voice actors.actors, with the oldest films having actors who were theater mainstays or those who were experienced with singing and providing voice work on radio shows. After that, they started to increasingly advertise celebrity roles. Some of the more blatant examples: Mandy Moore and Zachary Levi as the leads in ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'', Music/MileyCyrus in ''Disney/{{Bolt}}'' (particularly egregious because she replaced [[Creator/ChloeMoretz a voice actor]] who had already recorded most of her lines) and perhaps Creator/MelGibson in ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}''.
17th Jul '17 3:08:04 PM StFan
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** [[Disney/SaludosAmigos The]] [[Disney/TheThreeCaballeros package]] [[Disney/MakeMineMusic movies]]. [[Disney/FunAndFancyFree All]] [[Disney/MelodyTime of]] [[Disney/TheAdventuresOfIchabodAndMrToad them]]. Most of them didn't receive wide theatrical re-releases, and most of their home video releases didn't receive large advertising campaigns. It's becoming rather odd since various characters from the package movies are represented at the Ride/DisneyThemeParks, most notably through the rides Mr. Toad's Wild Ride and Gran Fiesta Tour Starring the Three Caballeros. ''The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad'' [=DVDs=] are a common sight in stores around Halloween and they get a special packaging with a jack-o-lantern stencil or trick or treat bag included,[[note]]and these apparently sold well enough for Disney to select ''Ichabod and Mr. Toad'' as the first package film to release on Blu-ray twice, once by itself, and again bundled with ''Fun and Fancy Free'' and ''Disney/TheReluctantDragon''[[/note]] further demonstrating it as not always an example.

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** [[Disney/SaludosAmigos The]] [[Disney/TheThreeCaballeros package]] [[Disney/MakeMineMusic movies]]. [[Disney/FunAndFancyFree All]] [[Disney/MelodyTime of]] [[Disney/TheAdventuresOfIchabodAndMrToad them]]. Most of them didn't receive wide theatrical re-releases, and most of their home video releases didn't receive large advertising campaigns. It's becoming rather odd since various characters from the package movies are represented at the Ride/DisneyThemeParks, most notably through the rides Mr. Toad's Wild Ride and Gran Fiesta Tour Starring the Three Caballeros. ''The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad'' [=DVDs=] are a common sight in stores around Halloween and they get a special packaging with a jack-o-lantern stencil or trick or treat bag included,[[note]]and these apparently sold well enough for Disney to select ''Ichabod and Mr. Toad'' as the first package film to release on Blu-ray twice, once by itself, and again bundled with ''Fun and Fancy Free'' and ''Disney/TheReluctantDragon''[[/note]] ''Film/TheReluctantDragon''[[/note]] further demonstrating it as not always an example.
12th Jul '17 11:11:52 AM mlsmithca
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** Of course, the pre-''Aladdin'' films weren't safe from this either. We have Mickey Rooney, Creator/KurtRussell and Sandy Duncan in ''Disney/TheFoxAndTheHound'', Creator/VincentPrice in ''Disney/TheGreatMouseDetective'', and Music/BillyJoel and Music/BetteMidler in ''Disney/OliverAndCompany''.

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** Of course, the The pre-''Aladdin'' films weren't safe from this either. We have Mickey Rooney, Creator/KurtRussell and Sandy Duncan in ''Disney/TheFoxAndTheHound'', Creator/VincentPrice in ''Disney/TheGreatMouseDetective'', and Music/BillyJoel and Music/BetteMidler in ''Disney/OliverAndCompany''.



* AvoidTheDreadedGRating: Averted until ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron'' came along in 1985. Since then there have been a fair few other PG-rated canon entries, such as ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'', ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'', etc. though the vast majority of the canon remains G-rated.
** This is becoming more and more common, though, as the G rating is increasingly seen as unprofitable.

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* AvoidTheDreadedGRating: Averted until ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron'' came along in 1985. Since then there have been a fair few other PG-rated canon entries, such as ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'', ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'', etc. though the vast majority of the canon remains G-rated.
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G-rated. This is becoming more and more common, though, as the G rating is increasingly seen as unprofitable.



** The son of Carlo Collodi, the author of the original ''Literature/TheAdventuresOfPinocchio'' book, hated the [[Disney/{{Pinocchio}} Disney adaptation]] for playing fast and loose with his dads story, and even unsuccessfully tried to sue the studio for misrepresenting his fathers work.
** Per word of Creator/ChuckJones (who did his own animated adaptations of Kipling's stories) in his book ''Chuck Jones Conversations'', Kipling's daughter hated [[Disney/TheJungleBook the Disney adaptation]] of [[Literature/TheJungleBook The Jungle Book]] for being an InNameOnly adaptation of her father's work.

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** The son of Carlo Collodi, the author of the original ''Literature/TheAdventuresOfPinocchio'' book, hated the [[Disney/{{Pinocchio}} Disney adaptation]] for playing fast and loose with his dads dad's story, and even unsuccessfully tried to sue the studio for misrepresenting his fathers father's work.
** Per word of Creator/ChuckJones (who did his own animated adaptations of Kipling's stories) in his book ''Chuck Jones Conversations'', Kipling's daughter hated [[Disney/TheJungleBook the Disney adaptation]] of [[Literature/TheJungleBook The Jungle Book]] ''Literature/TheJungleBook'' for being an InNameOnly adaptation of her father's work.



* HistoryRepeats:
** A meta-example. The Disney Revival films "Disney/{{Zootopia}}" and "Disney/{{Moana}}" are an interesting mirror of the Disney Renaissance films "Disney/TheLionKing" and "Disney/{{Pocahontas}}". Each set of films had the situation where a "talking animals" film was released and only expected to be a "filler" film that came before the next highly anticipated "princess" film. In each case, the "talking animals" film became a massively successful SleeperHit that surpassed its respective "princess" film. "Moana" took in a very respectful $640 million worldwide but was outdone by "Zootopia" which took in $1.02 billion. "Pocahontas" was a moderate success with $346 million and was eclipsed by "Lion King's" $968 million.
** A meta example: The last time Disney Animation Studios had two of its films nominated for "Best Animated Feature" in the same year was back in 2002 with ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'' and ''Disney/TreasurePlanet''. In 2016, almost 15 years later, they had ''Disney/{{Moana}}'' and ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}''. Both times, Disney had a film in the running with a Polynesian protagonist and a strong Polynesian influence. Bonus points for Ron Clement who was a director for both ''Treasure Planet'' and ''Moana''.



* HistoryRepeats:
** A meta-example. The Disney Revival films "Disney/{{Zootopia}}" and "Disney/{{Moana}}" are an interesting mirror of the Disney Renaissance films "Disney/TheLionKing" and "Disney/{{Pocahontas}}". Each set of films had the situation where a "talking animals" film was released and only expected to be a "filler" film that came before the next highly anticipated "princess" film. In each case, the "talking animals" film became a massively successful SleeperHit that surpassed its respective "princess" film. "Moana" took in a very respectful $640 million worldwide but was outdone by "Zootopia" which took in $1.02 billion. "Pocahontas" was a moderate success with $346 million and was eclipsed by "Lion King's" $968 million.
** A meta example: The last time Disney Animation Studios had two of its films nominated for "Best Animated Feature" in the same year was back in 2002 with ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'' and ''Disney/TreasurePlanet''. In 2016, almost 15 years later, they had ''Disney/{{Moana}}'' and ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}''. Both times, Disney had a film in the running with a Polynesian protagonist and a strong Polynesian influence. Bonus points for Ron Clement who was a director for both ''Treasure Planet'' and ''Moana''.



* ReferencedBy:
** ''Webcomic/KnightsOfBuenaVista'' is a CampaignComic using the animated films (and others) as source material.

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ReferencedBy: ''Webcomic/KnightsOfBuenaVista'' is a CampaignComic using the animated films (and others) as source material.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Two books have been written on the subject, ''The Disney [[StealthPun That]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII Never Was]]'' and ''Disney Lost and Found'' (focusing on My Peoples and Wild Life specifically alongside deleted segments from completed works.)
** Also, ''WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas'' was apparently supposed to be Disney's 32nd animated film, to have been released during the 1993 holiday season, with ''Disney/TheLionKing'', then Disney's 33rd animated film, being scheduled for the 1994 holiday season. Then ''Nightmare'' was rebranded as a Touchstone film due to being DarkerAndEdgier even by Disney's standards (and some of the animated canon's entries are more mature than others) and ''Lion King'' found itself pushed forward to summer 1994 and directly replacing ''Nightmare'' as Disney's 32nd as a direct result of said rebranding. Had things gone as planned, ''Nightmare'' would've been Disney's first non-hand-drawn film, as well as the first and so far only stop-motion entry, in the animated canon.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: WhatCouldHaveBeen:
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Two books have been written on the subject, ''The Disney [[StealthPun That]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII Never Was]]'' and ''Disney Lost and Found'' (focusing on My Peoples and Wild Life specifically alongside deleted segments from completed works.)
works).
** Also, ''WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas'' was apparently supposed to be Disney's 32nd animated film, to have been released during the 1993 holiday season, with ''Disney/TheLionKing'', then Disney's 33rd animated film, being scheduled for the 1994 holiday season. Then ''Nightmare'' was rebranded as a Touchstone film due to being DarkerAndEdgier even by Disney's standards (and some of the animated canon's entries are more mature than others) and ''Lion King'' found itself pushed forward to summer 1994 and directly replacing ''Nightmare'' as Disney's 32nd as a direct result of said rebranding. Had things gone as planned, ''Nightmare'' would've been Disney's first non-hand-drawn film, as well as the first and so far only stop-motion entry, in the animated canon.
4th Jul '17 2:29:12 PM rva98014
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* HistoryRepeats:
** A meta-example. The Disney Revival films "Disney/{{Zootopia}}" and "Disney/{{Moana}}" are an interesting mirror of the Disney Renaissance films "Disney/TheLionKing" and "Disney/{{Pocahontas}}". Each set of films had the situation where a "talking animals" film was released and only expected to be a "filler" film that came before the next highly anticipated "princess" film. In each case, the "talking animals" film became a massively successful SleeperHit that surpassed its respective "princess" film. "Moana" took in a very respectful $640 million worldwide but was outdone by "Zootopia" which took in $1.02 billion. "Pocahontas" was a moderate success with $346 million and was eclipsed by "Lion King's" $968 million.
** A meta example: The last time Disney Animation Studios had two of its films nominated for "Best Animated Feature" in the same year was back in 2002 with ''Disney/LiloAndStitch'' and ''Disney/TreasurePlanet''. In 2016, almost 15 years later, they had ''Disney/{{Moana}}'' and ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}''. Both times, Disney had a film in the running with a Polynesian protagonist and a strong Polynesian influence. Bonus points for Ron Clement who was a director for both ''Treasure Planet'' and ''Moana''.
15th Jun '17 12:34:36 PM 123456789
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** The fifth wasn't a single film but the large amount of commercial and/or critical disappointments that lasted for years after Jeffrey Katzenberg left. [[http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/business/media/at-disney-a-celebration-that-was-a-long-time-coming.html?hpw&rref=movies&_r=0 Once Pixar was officially integrated into Disney, there were once again talks of permanently shutting down the studios]]. Thankfully, [[Creator/ABC Bob Iger]], [[Creator/PixarRegulars John Lasseter, and Ed Catmull]] decided to work on reviving the studios instead of killing it. Years later, ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'', ''Disney/WreckItRalph'', ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', ''Disney/BigHero6'', and ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' were released, showing that the studios was once again at the top of their game.

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** The fifth wasn't a single film but the large amount of commercial and/or critical disappointments that lasted for years after Jeffrey Katzenberg left. [[http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/business/media/at-disney-a-celebration-that-was-a-long-time-coming.html?hpw&rref=movies&_r=0 Once Pixar was officially integrated into Disney, there were once again talks of permanently shutting down the studios]]. Thankfully, [[Creator/ABC [[Creator/{{ABC}} Bob Iger]], [[Creator/PixarRegulars John Lasseter, and Ed Catmull]] decided to work on reviving the studios instead of killing it. Years later, ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'', ''Disney/WreckItRalph'', ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', ''Disney/BigHero6'', and ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' were released, showing that the studios was once again at the top of their game.
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