History Trivia / Cyborg009

14th Apr '16 2:14:17 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* HeyItsThatVoice: The dub of the 2001 series has many of these, even some in the exact same voice that some actors may have been known for in other anime dubs. Take any voice and look it up on Wikipedia and there will be a full list of roles that the voice actor has performed. Some will be more familiar than others.
** Dub!Ivan/001 is Gomamon.
** Meanwhile, dub!Joe/009 is best known for being Tai (or [[TheOtherDarrin Ken in a pair of episodes]]).
** To anyone's dismay, dub!Joe/009 in the 2012 movie is [[JasonGriffith accelerating around]] [[SonicTheHedgehog speed of sound.]]
7th Feb '16 6:29:44 PM Prfnoff
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* TheOtherDarrin: As far as the dub for the 2001 series goes, Joshua Seth was seemingly unavailable to voice Joe in episodes 5 and 9, with Derek Stephen Prince filling in for the role. See TheOtherMarty for the full reasoning.

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* TheOtherDarrin: As far as the dub for the 2001 series goes, Joshua Seth Creator/JoshuaSeth was seemingly unavailable to voice Joe in episodes 5 and 9, with Derek Stephen Prince Creator/DerekStephenPrince filling in for the role. See TheOtherMarty for the full reasoning.



* TheOtherMarty: Derek Stephen Prince was originally cast as Joe, but was fired after an unspecified amount of episodes when Sony executives didn't approve of the voice he used for the character. Joshua Seth was then cast in the role (after he'd initially planned to retire from anime dubbing) and redubbed all of the episodes that Prince had recorded for- except for 5 and 9, which they were either unable to re-record in time or that wound up airing as the original versions with Prince's vocal track.

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* TheOtherMarty: Derek Stephen Prince Creator/DerekStephenPrince was originally cast as Joe, but was fired after an unspecified amount of episodes when Sony executives didn't approve of the voice he used for the character. Joshua Seth Creator/JoshuaSeth was then cast in the role (after he'd initially planned to retire from anime dubbing) and redubbed all of the episodes that Prince had recorded for- except for 5 and 9, which they were either unable to re-record in time or that wound up airing as the original versions with Prince's vocal track.
10th Aug '15 2:29:20 AM arondightBerserker
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** To anyone's dismay, dub!Joe/009 in the 2012 movie is [[JasonGriffith accelerating around]] [[SonicTheHedgehog speed of sound.]]
8th Jul '15 7:49:38 PM nombretomado
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* CrossDressingVoices: 007 was voiced by MachikoSoga (AKA [[Series/KyoryuSentaiZyuranger Bandora]]/[[Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers Rita Repulsa]]) in the 60's anime and movie. In the rest of the anime adaptations, he was voiced by male actors. However, as the '60s anime adaptations had redesigned 007 to be a child (see below), a female voice was probably considered more fitting.

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* CrossDressingVoices: 007 was voiced by MachikoSoga Creator/MachikoSoga (AKA [[Series/KyoryuSentaiZyuranger Bandora]]/[[Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers Rita Repulsa]]) in the 60's anime and movie. In the rest of the anime adaptations, he was voiced by male actors. However, as the '60s anime adaptations had redesigned 007 to be a child (see below), a female voice was probably considered more fitting.
25th Aug '14 7:49:39 PM Luma
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* TheOtherDarrin: As far as the dub for the 2001 series goes, Joshua Seth was unavailable to voice Joe in episodes 5 and 9, with Derek Stephen Prince filling in for the role.

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* TheOtherDarrin: As far as the dub for the 2001 series goes, Joshua Seth was seemingly unavailable to voice Joe in episodes 5 and 9, with Derek Stephen Prince filling in for the role. See TheOtherMarty for the full reasoning.


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* TheOtherMarty: Derek Stephen Prince was originally cast as Joe, but was fired after an unspecified amount of episodes when Sony executives didn't approve of the voice he used for the character. Joshua Seth was then cast in the role (after he'd initially planned to retire from anime dubbing) and redubbed all of the episodes that Prince had recorded for- except for 5 and 9, which they were either unable to re-record in time or that wound up airing as the original versions with Prince's vocal track.
26th Jun '14 12:10:25 PM Luma
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** Within the first drafts for "God's War", Hisui Kagariya originally had the given name of "Igusa".

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** Within the first drafts for "God's War", Hisui Kagariya originally had the given name of "Igusa"."Igusa", and her age was also given as 24 instead of 27. In addition, Shiori Takagaki had the given name of "Saori", and an altered version of Joe's backstory was to be detailed (where we would learn his mother's name).
5th Jun '14 8:54:34 PM Luma
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** The Mythos cyborgs were originally going to appear in the 1979 series, with there being a three-part story drafted for them. However, neither story or characters made the cut. Not all was lost, as the redesign for Helena/Artemis did eventually make it into the 2001 anime.

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** The Mythos cyborgs were originally going to appear in the 1979 series, with there series in an arc after the Neo Black Ghost one, and three episodes were being a three-part story drafted while Ishinomori was drawing redesigns for them. However, neither story or characters made the cut.characters. Unfortunately, the '79 series was cancelled at episode 50, leaving things to be hastily wrapped up with the Neo Black Ghost arc. Not all was lost, as the redesign for Helena/Artemis did eventually make it into the 2001 anime.
25th May '14 5:51:46 PM Luma
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: As mentioned in the AbortedArc trope, "Angels" was originally going to be an arc to wrap up the manga, but it was unfortunately cut off on a cliffhanger when the magazine it was running in (Monthly Bouken-Oh) dropped Cyborg 009 as a feature due to Ishinomori falling into a writer's block and being unable to continue the story. In the cliffhanger, the cyborgs learn that Ivan has the ability to upgrade them. The volume release of the Angels arc also had a footnote by Ishinomori, suggesting that the arc was difficult to write for due to him planning it to be the longest (and final) battle that the 00 cyborgs would experience. Ishinomori attempted to rewrite and revisit the storyline a few years later with "Battle with the Gods" (with it serialized in COM), but ''that'' was also cut short when the manga was dropped again- in light of fans' enraged letters over [[spoiler: Joe and Francoise having sex]] and criticisms of Ishinomori's art and narrative style in the arc.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: As mentioned in the AbortedArc trope, "Angels" was originally going to be an arc to wrap up the manga, but it was unfortunately cut off on a cliffhanger when the magazine it was running in (Monthly Bouken-Oh) (Adventure King) dropped Cyborg 009 as a feature due to Ishinomori falling into a writer's block and being unable to continue the story. In the cliffhanger, the cyborgs learn that Ivan has the ability to upgrade them. The volume release of the Angels arc also had a footnote by Ishinomori, suggesting that the arc was difficult to write for due to him planning it to be the longest (and final) battle that the 00 cyborgs would experience. Ishinomori attempted to rewrite and revisit the storyline a few years later with "Battle with the Gods" (with it serialized in COM), but ''that'' was also cut short when the manga was dropped again- in light of fans' enraged letters over [[spoiler: Joe and Francoise having sex]] and criticisms of Ishinomori's art and narrative style in the arc.
25th May '14 5:46:13 PM Luma
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* [[TalkingToHimself Talking To Herself]]: The ''five'' [=Pu'Awak=] Sisters were all voiced by Creator/YukiMasuda. The Pu'Awak sisters also received the same actress in the English dub, although this trope was averted for the Latin American Spanish dub (each sister being voiced by a different actress).

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* [[TalkingToHimself Talking To Herself]]: The ''five'' [=Pu'Awak=] Sisters were all voiced by Creator/YukiMasuda. The Pu'Awak sisters also received the same actress in the English dub, although this This trope was averted for the English dub and the Latin American Spanish dub (each (with each sister being voiced by a different actress).
25th May '14 5:45:06 PM Luma
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** Ivan is a case of this in all incarnations of the anime, though it's averted in the English dub of the 2001 series.
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